Thread 281491075

How is it possible for Maruto, who is nothing more than a Light novel author and game scenarist, create the most accurate depiction of a woman moment in Japanese fiction?

I just can't see how a woman, who unilaterally decided to cut off contact with her BF for some arbitrarily reason, can blame him for the breakup and moving on from her. It boggles the mind, and I refuse to accept that Maruto solely wrote this piece, there must be a woman staffer that is helping him write these parts.

I really hope part 3 of the series lives up to my expectations, part 2 can't be topped.

>>281491075 (OP)
I seriously don’t understand how anyone could ever love Ayami. She’s a two-face bitch who betrays everyone for her own satisfaction.

>>281491075 (OP)
So what happened with this crap?
Is it in hiatus forever while they do the Yuu thing no one gives a fuck about?

all of maruto's shit is full of woman moments. that's why he's garbage.

>>281491075 (OP)
I kind of assumed this was written by a woman, even before the ebin twist. Are you sure the mangaka is a dude?

>>281491904
>Putting women on pedestal
Are you sure you're not an incel?

>>281491629
Should resume after the comiket

>>281491904
>Are you sure the mangaka is a dude?
Yom is a man, I believe. But he did write Douki, which is female coded.

>>281491904
Ask maruto. He wrote it

>>281491646
Wasn't his Light Novel pretty normal?

>>281491455
>anyone could ever love Ayami
Nobody loves her, just shitters who hate Hikari for being an actual person

>>281491904
Fumiaki Maruto is definitely a man. He also wrote White Album 2, so he's got a knack for woman moments.

>>281492042
>which is female coded.
What part of it?
All the series is Douki being cute and getting cucked by her most attractive work mates

We love YamiCUTE here.

>>281491455
>I seriously don’t understand how anyone could ever love Ayami.
You don't have to understand because no one loves her
Besides the Hikari haters, only people interested on Yami are guys that like menheras so they want to fuck-and-dump her.
Also the guys that like shitty drama/conflict, because wirhout Yami this would be just a plain and wholesome yet boring series.
Yami it's basically like Mami from rent-a-girlfriend. Shitty character that no one would date seriously, but things always get fun or chaotic when she intervenes

Throwing Yami on the bed.

>>281493184
Impregnate her And when the pregnancy test comes positive, going for tabaco and never coming back

>>281491455
>>281492769
>>281493161
"I can fix her" isn't just a meme, Anon.

>>281491455
I just love her for her face & body. The drama is icing on the cake

>>281493366
Anon...
Meeting Yuu and falling for him almost unironically made her worse.

>>281493496
It made her worse because she went about it the wrong way.

>>281493626
Same thing
Nothing by now has shown she can be fixed... Or wants to be

>>281493689
Well, she did kiss a boy her best friend was pinning, so no, she doesn't want to be fix.

What a garbage thread.

>>281493496
It got her out of freefall and she started trying to fix her life. Sure, she messed things up with her mom, and felt guilty enough to stupidly break up out of solidarity, but now she's got no molester at home, and a big money pile. That's still better than before, where she was out of friends to crash with, and about to whore herself out because FML.

>>281491075 (OP)
What was Yami’s end goal for even confronting Yuu? She blamed him for everything and he just accepted it.

>>281492042
>coded
Go back to Xitter.

Constantly getting tripped up by ragebait is fucking crazy, you guys need to go out more

Maruto has been writing women moments for the past 25 years, that's his whole career.

Yami deserves nothing but unconditional love.
I wish women like Yami existed irl.

>>281494157
Just go to some
>my dad raped me
meetings.

>>281492006
How did his post praise women?

>>281493964
It was purely a raw emotional reaction that even she knew was unfair. Rationally, she wanted to just let him walk out and get with Hikari, but somewhere inside, she was still hoping he had enough perception and concern to see through her, like he did when they met. So when he didn't, and was about to walk away again, her bottled-up emotions and frustration boiled over with a need to be heard before letting things end.

>>281491075 (OP)
>create the most accurate depiction of a woman moment in Japanese fiction?
Try watching some J dramas. Maruto is just a soap opera writer writing manga and VNs

>>281493962
>It got her out of freefall and she started trying to fix her life.
Maybe if things had gone worst before she would have "broken" badly enough to actually rethink her life and decisions and try to change and improve things for the better.
Instead, because of Yuu and Hikari she ended up in a limbo or fake comfort where things got better for her but she remained almost the same idiot and didn't learn shit.
And now see how that ended up.
Her taking awful decisions to the very end and self destructing all her meaningful bonds

>>281494705
I love this expression.
It has some
>the audacity of this bitch!
vibes

>>281491075 (OP)
He's explicitly famous because of his writing women moments the game

>>281494705
>maybe an even worse life would've smartened her up
Yeah fucking right.

Meeting Yuu already got her to try fixing things. She's just clumsy at it, and more hardship would not fix that.

>>281494749
I'm still waiting for Hikari's response to this.

>>281495735
She got two chances, being a good girlfriend to Yuu or a good friend to.Hikari and she is failing both.
Frankly, rewind time and let her be raped by her stepfather and/or prostitute to some random ojiisan.
Maybe once she hits the ground at her lowest she finally wakes up... Or breaks completely and dies.
Nothing of value would be lost anyway

>>281496425
Yeah, I kinda figured you didn't care about the survival rate of that "advice".

>>281497210
Do or die.
You only have one life.
And Yami is already on the path of a miserable one. The only reason that wont likely be the case in the end it's because Hikari and Yuu are too good to just cut her off... Which unironically is what makes Yami feel even less deserving of them and want to do any sort of dumb shit to make them hate her

>>281497561
Yuu was ready to cut off Yami. Yami literally force herself back into his life

>>281497561
That's for encouraging positive risks, not for letting them crash hard and who cares if it's fatal. Yami still stands a WAY better chance of learning and recovering from her current path, where the damage is "only" emotional. And the others will learn nonlethally from it too.

>>281498076
Best move she ever made, subsequent fumbles notwithstanding.

>>281498587
Not the best move since it’s her bad ending.

>>281498828
Nah, that came from dumping him later, otherwise she had him in the bag.

>>281499067
>otherwise she had him in the bag.
And she let him go, and should still let him go

>>281492042
Sex with Kouhai!

>>281499444
She should have won.

>>281499661
Or at least give her a spin off where she gets on her own BF

>>281491455
She's not doing it for her own satisfaction. Do people not read the manga. Its very explicit she left Yu because she felt bad about being happy while her mom was trying to kill herself

>>281500032
And didn't she immediately regret her decision since her relationship with her mom became dogshit

>"love" your gf
>give her up without a fight, without a question
He's not a man.

>Yom stopped drawing pantyhose in favor of this shit
god damn it

>>281501656
Yeah, I know, finally started drawing a good manga.

>>281491075 (OP)
I still wish they didn’t put the serious on hiatus during a cliffhanger

>>281501634
They are all just dumb kids, that's the whole point of the story.

>>281501634
To be fair, Yami wanted Yuu to be a stalker and jilted lover. That’s psycho.

>>281502871
Stalker in what way?

>>281502974
What do you mean in what way? She literally ask Yuu to find her, to confront her, instead of doing the common sense choice and move on.

>>281503028
And how is that stalker behavior? If your girlfriend just disappeared without saying a word, you'd want to at least find her and talk.

>>281503077
She blocked him. That’s a clear sign that she doesn’t want to talk to him.

>>281503124
He doesn't even know she blocked him.

>>281503159
He literally does. If you block someone in Japan, they will know.

>>281503171
He literally doesn't. Last novel chapters shows that he only saw that his last message wasn't read.

From what I can find, LINE doesn't explicitly show you you're "blocked", but Yuu's last unread message was shortly after his other read ones, so it'd be hard to conclude anything else.

>>281491075 (OP)
I started reading this now and got to the chapter they have sex and I can say that I'm a bit more sympathetic to her, I can see where it's going. Now looking at this panel and the way she acts, I hope this story concludes with her kind of accepting that she absolutely was not ready for romance, which is not the same as not deserving it.
Also I kind of agree with her, I do wish (Yuu) was more aggressive. At the very least, he should've checked on her if they were close. The guy basically seems extremely retarded, to not realize she has a tough home life, or that his childhood friend likes him.

>>281504464
>I started reading this now and got to the chapter they have sex
So 25? You don't even know what happened yet then, read it first.

>>281504688
Am I wrong though?
>oh I'm so fucked up I don't deserve to be happy, I shouldn't get between this pure love, I'm going to disappear. oh but how I wish he chased me and saved me from being a retard because I am a woman and this is how we act
Is how I am assuming it goes.

>>281504787
Not how it went, no. Read it first.

>>281504787
It's, shall we say, incomplete.

>>281504464
FYI, the novel version releases simultaneously with the manga version, so there are no spoilers*, just added detail. Novel translations up to 31 are here, but then stopped:
https://xxddmm.neocities.org/

The raws (for both versions) are here:
https://note.com/saranami

*: Except maybe the current sidestory novel (from Yuu's POV) while the manga is on break for C106. We've had threads where people ran them through MTL.

>>281504816
>>281505109
Ok well now that I've caught up to the latest chapter and I can say fuck both of you because I was right. Well except for assuming part of her initially deciding to cut herself off would involve the fact that she knew he had someone else he loved, so that's points lost for her, she's now more retarded. Also I'd rank Yuu as less retarded since at least he did try to contact her lots, though I still think he should've looked for her in person. Which isn't me saying there's really anyone at fault here other than Aya, by the way. Hikari on the other hand definitely lost all her retard points (which she earlier accumulated many of) in the latest two chapters, she's great.

>>281505478
Basically she had a more-specific retarded reason that was critical to the decision but harder to predict.

>>281505478
>I was completely right!
>except the most important detail where I was wrong

>>281494521
>driven by emotions, character does something spectacularly retarded
I loved it. Why is it so rare?

>>281505635
Go read WA2. It's full of moments like that.

>>281505635
The soul of soap kino. Very execution-dependent, however.

>>281501634
>>give her up without a fight, without a question
he did though
we see in the story he actually did go to the train station several times after she ghosted and blocked him, and even tried finding her on her campus

>>281508844
>and even tried finding her on her campus
This we don't know yet. Hoping for some confirmation in the future.

>>281509014
Unless I'm misremembering, the latest side chapter translation said he went to campus to find her but almost got caught by Hikari when he did.

>>281493366
>I can fix her
Man/woman doesn't matter anyone with this mentality is a retard

>>281509275
He tried the station where they met before near the school, but not the school itself, since she was still a dropout when he knew her:

>After summer vacation ended, I went to the nearest station to her school...that is, Hikari's school, several times, but I was never able to meet her.
>Once, I spotted Hikari and quickly hid, but in the end I was never able to find her back with her short hair and not her distinctive braids.
[...]
>She has already dropped out of school, so there is no contact between us and we will never meet again.

>>281509845
Aaah, I misread and thought he went to the train station and then Hikari's school. Thanks for clarifying it for me.

>>281491075 (OP)
Dude either has a lot of women in his family or a really bad picker, he has Yamai do some of the most toxic things women do when backed into an emotional corner and feels the situation is unsalvageable
>Always advancing trying to make the situation go nuclear as fast as possible
>Carve the biggest emotional scar on someone's heart so they'll always remember
>Utilize secrets told in confidence to more effectively emotionally wound
It's a goddamn perfect woman moment, even has her bait Hikari into striking first so she can be justified in nuking the relationship. Now I want to add it's not JUST women who do this but it's like some of the nastiest weapons in their arsenal written the most effectively I've seen outside real life or a piece of fiction written by a woman

>>281510400
None of these things happened here.

>>281491075 (OP)
>I just can't see how a woman, who unilaterally decided to cut off contact with her BF for some arbitrarily reason, can blame him for the breakup and moving on from her.
What hard to understand about that? We all been selfish once in our life. It's basically just that.
Or are you some selfless, altruistic being who always see others first before yourself? Because I'll call you a hypocrite then.

>>281511297
Nigger did you read the manga or just the summaries from these threads.
>She emotionally bullrushes Yuu when he tries to walk away and just dumps bullshit on him before opting to end things in a way that will hurt him the most short of purposefully dragging Hikari into it.
>Knows Hikari was watching and still chose to kiss Yuu in their formal break up
>Proceeds to tell Hikari the truth in the worst possible way to make herself look as bad as possible (while dragging Yuu through the mud knowing Hikari has a high regard for him) to bait Hikari into hating her
>When that doesn't' work she opps for the nuclear option

>>281511499
Hell she said so herself the entire thing was a nearly unwinnable shit test

>>281511673
>and just dumps bullshit on him before opting to end things in a way that will hurt him
Are you actually retarded? She practically tells him that she still is in love with him.
>still chose to kiss Yuu in their formal break up
Could it be because she still loves him? What a wild idea.

>>281512295
>She practically tells him that she still is in love with him
Which is terrible since he was trying to move on

>>281513015
She wanted to move on with no regrets.

>>281513015
Oh poor him, a girl who is an important part of his life said that she is still in love with him. He must be so hurt.

>>281513954
>a girl who is an important part of his life said that she is still in love with him
Yeah, when he's about to be in another relationship

>>281503124
>She blocked him. That’s a clear sign that she doesn’t want to talk to him.
The point is that even if he knew she blocked him, in his eyes her going AWOL is an unjustified action that indicates she's mentally unwell and may be considering self harm. There were ways he could have tried getting in contact with her without being a stalker, such as trying to reach out to potential friends, if he actually cared enough to try. Even if talking to her directly was off the table, at least finding out if she was alright and didn't rope herself would have been better than doing nothing, but that's just his character. He's a loser and a doormat, whether that's intentionally how he's written or not.

>>281514715
>such as trying to reach out to potential friends
What friends? Yami spent all her time being a NEET or with him. NO in between

>>281514744
She actually had friends from middle school, she said she was staying at one of her friends place after running away from home because of the step dad

>>281514744
In that case, he'd be even more justified trying to get in contact with her directly. He had a duty to at least make SOME attempt to figure out if she was alright, and potentially being seen as a stalker by people out of the loop is no excuse.

>>281512295
Classic forest for the trees. My point still stands, this entire crashout is the best, most realistic woman moment written by a man

>>281514792
She also said most had booted her out by then, and the last few were running out of patience. I can readily believe he never got useful info on them from her.

>>281493964
yami pretends (to herself most of all) to be some master schemer but she's actually only ever reacting to situations. it takes basically nothing to reduce her into a spaghetti spilling machine

>>281503124
LINE tells you when a user has blocked you

>>281514715
he's 15, anon. most actual adults don't have the capacity to deal with a situation like that. walking away is actually the reasonable option

>>281516877
Anon, did you quote the wrong post?

>>281511673
Lol I love women

>>281491455
because she has an actual personality instead of le generic good little cupcake #86577234

>>281493366
Only a retard has this mentality.

>>281520093
Men want one thing, and it's fucking retarded.