Thread 281530470

What are your expectations for the remake?

Don't care in the slightest. Remakes are wastes of effort that should've been spent on something new.

D.Gray-man deserves a good remake

>>281530515
>he's not the slightest bit hyped about arcs like skypiea and alabasta being remade with top notch animation and good pacing

>>281530470 (OP)
Its a low budget remake with 90% of it being CGI. Its trash, just read the fucking manga at this point

>>281530643
>Top notch animation
LMAO

>>281530755
source?

>>281530515
I don't agree when it comes to adaptations, especially when the adaptation was low effort to begin with. And that's the case for most long runners.

>>281530470 (OP)
Jungle de Ikou tv series instead?

>>281530566
Claymore deserve a better remake

>>281530755
>WIT studio
>every source says focus will be on high quality animation
>good directors as far as action anime goes
Doomposting is only funny when it's not blatantly false

>>281530470 (OP)
soulless

>>281530470 (OP)
the manga already devolved over a decade ago into the anime's scribbled, reaction-face-packed storyboard.
if they need to redo the anime after that, everyone in the franchise should just be lined up and shot.

>>281530515
Watch it instead Netflix cringe

>>281530470 (OP)
I hope it'll rekindle my love for this show.
Isn't this adaptation supposed to be more fast-paced than the original one? My main problem with popular battleshounen is that they're way too slow-paced.

>>281532185
Yes all arcs will be condensed in one or two cours with the exception of Dressrosa and Wano I think, which will both be 37 episodes

>>281530470 (OP)
I'll probably check it out at least

It seems a bit premature since the manga hasn't concluded yet and probably won't for at least the next few years. From an artistic perspective it would make more sense to remake it after it's complete so you could also fix obvious plot holes and incongruities that the story has accumulated over the years. But of course, this is clearly done to milk the IP.

>>281530515
>It's a waste of effort despite certainly turning a profit

I just want a better paced show so I can watch it with my kids and it’s not a 1000+ episode slog

>>281532876
>despite certainly turning a profit
Nice joke for normie.

>>281533051
>Most profitable manga of all time won't make a profit
Yeah okay.

>>281533315
>KnY out of nowhere

>>281533452
>Number seven by about 400 million copies

>>281533315
>most profit
>shill
Where?

>>281530643
>top notch animation
Cubes and flashy lights are not notched but cubical and comical

>>281533738
Literally just look up any fucking manga sales website. One Piece has sold over 500 million while KnY (not that I am disparaging it) only sold 150 million. I ask you to do your own research because you would probably take anything I post as false.

>>281533977
>false
Who? It only that long since 97'

Remake still shit.

>>281534064
Manga and anime were not as prevent worldwide back then. You don't remember watching Cyborg 009 on VHS, zoomer.One.Piece takes a bit of dedication to catch up and many people are not willing to do so. Just like Detective Conan which is also far above KnY.

>>281534201
>t. zoomer

>>281533977
>One Piece has sold over 500 million
That's a myth. It's the number of copies PRINTED (+digital sales), not sold. And One Piece has been overprinted for a decade now. Also, KnY (in the same metric) is at 220M; 150M was a figure in 2021. With a total of 23 volumes. The mogging of less than 520M with 112 volumes is insane.

>>281534818
Take your meds. What's about the others that sold more? It isn't insane. Anime and manga were simply not as popular.KyN happen with a new generation switching over to manga. You think some 18 year old is going to drop 112 volumes worth of money to physically own One Piece?

>>281533972
>Cubes and flashy lights are not notched but cubical and comical
Why do people pretend to be knowledgeable.
Cubes are a trait of bones usually, given who they often have on as key animators. Wit's animation tends to be more fluid.

>>281530643
Ah yes, the really boring and drawn-out arcs. If by good pacing you mean cutting out 60% from alabasta and 80% from skypea (while keeping everything with Enel), then it could be good. But not hyped.

>>281530515
One Piece already has one of the worst anime adaptations in history (I personally believe it's the worst because of how long it has remained bad), so any new adaptation is a win if you're a fan; nothing can be worse than what Toei has done.

>>281535797
You tripping. G-8 arc is peak.

>>281530470 (OP)
Whiter usopp

>>281537033
He originally from Madagascar

>>281535275
People love to be cynical and negative on the internet, but Wit is one of the few studios from which you can expect a good adaptation in most cases, regardless of the source material.

>>281537016
A decent filler arc arc doesn't make up for hundreds of poorly made canon episodes.

>>281537550
Osama Ranking was so good, a shame how it ended.

>>281537965
I think Naruto have bad canon animation for final wars arc. Even ninja storm quality was top notch.

>>281537343
He looks like one of the paler arabs now

>>281530470 (OP)
Nami fanservice. I strongly prefer her cute, pre-timeskip look.
Just imagine her sweet tummy and legs in bikini, full of sakuga. Yum.

>>281538576
Nothing in Naruto comes close to Toei's low quality in One Piece, though. I've seen what you niggas call “bad” and it's still better than the standard we had in One Piece for years.

>>281530470 (OP)
Better pacing and adapt the cover stories. I can't watch anything by the Toei anime because it's trash

>>281538498
It was much better than I expected, but yeah, it kinda falls off towards the end. Everything related to Miranjo was bullshit.

>>281535103
>You think some 18 year old is going to drop 112 volumes worth of money to physically own One Piece?


I think so.
In fact, One Piece is desperately trying to capture the younger generation in exactly that way right now.
And don’t forget, it’s not just about the sheer volume of chapters, One Piece also has more than 25 years of accumulated presence.
To take the raw numbers at face value and directly equate them with actual popularity is way too nonsensical.

>>281538689
>Better pacing and adapt
Therefore HxH 2011 was moe garbage

>>281539426
HxH 2011 was solid beyond the differences with the previous version. I wish I could live in a reality where One Piece was adapted with that quality and consistency.

>>281530470 (OP)
One Piece anime is already good until Marineford, when it turns into a badly animated slog. I don't see how a modern remake won't be terrible.

>>281539905
>One Piece anime is already good until Marineford
>art and animation are low quality from the start
>pacing starts to get bad in Skypiea and becomes consistently bad in Thriller Bark
The One Piece anime was never good, you liked it because of the characters and the story, not because of Toei's dogshit production.

>>281539858
Indirect wasn’t solid enough alongside 2021 Shaman King version.

>>281538686
Jannigga that pathetic.

>>281531302
what they call "high quality animation" these days is unwatchable vomit inducing trash with retarded camera movements, CG backgrounds and overused digital effects
I am not interested

>>281530470 (OP)
Oden in episode one.

>>281540215
The arcs with the old artstyle are pure SOVL, the show gets very fun in Water 7, and while is starts deteriorating from Thriller Bark to Impel Down, those arcs are still enjoyable. Marineford is the point when it becomes completely unwatchable.

>>281539683
/opg/ is shit

I'm mostly just looking forward to hearing new voice actors cast in the roles, Luffy especially. I'll always prefer the original cast but it'll be neat to hear different takes.

>>281530470 (OP)
i don't give a shit
not only will not improve the source material
its utterly irrelevant as well

>>281540719
>The arcs with the old artstyle are pure SOVL
I've said this before, poor quality is not “soul.” The backgrounds were awful, the color palette was ugly, the characters were drawn extremely flat and the animation was mediocre (not to mention the DBZ sound effects that never fit). Toei did less than the bare minimum, but they managed to get many people (including me) to ignore their lack of effort in making a decent product because the material they were adapting was actually enjoyable.

>>281530470 (OP)
No filler, just take the manga chapters as source.

>old anime gets remade with modern tv rules and sensibility standards aka no blood or excessive violence
into the trash it goes

>>281541472
This >>281538928 was made 3 years ago by the same studio that is working on the One Piece remake.

>>281541550
different tv slots
OP remake will most likely run in the early sunday morning slots where the shows are subjected to the komodo tier tv show rulings
aka as tame and non threatening as possible

>>281538498
It gets way better past the anime ending

>>281541354
Who read book?

>>281541550
>let him slash and than amputee arm
Is he stupid?

>>281532303
>source: my ass
they will never reach those arcs in the first place

>>281532185
>>281532303
The remake is just East Blue.

>>281541706
One Piece has always been broadcast in the mornings and has always had blood, but this remake is being made for a streaming platform as its main caster, so I don't think TV rules really matter in this case.

>>281530470 (OP)
It would be cool if they added the cover stories in the eye catchs or something like that

>>281530470 (OP)
I expect it to take way to long to come out, and not be good enough to warrant the wait. then I expect Netflix to quietly pull the plug after an arbitrary number of seasons

>>281541948
Shit admiral thread

>>281541947
>Rocks and Roger lost
What give?

>>281542015
The fact that they resort to shitty filler and stretch the canon material to an absurd degree but refuse to animate the cover stories is (besides the first 2) such an utterly bizarre and awful decision, especially when the cover stories sometimes have plot-critical things happen in them.

I’m looking forward to wit piece. I hope bleach gets a remake too maybe by science saru.

>>3098
>Someone make the slap looping

>That would be funny as hell

>>281542679
apparently the TV ratings during those early cover stories were really bad. japanese kids would rather watch the Strawhats go through some random non-canon adventure than Buggy or Koby

>>281541965
>>281541985
Wrong, they confirmed episode numbers up to Egghead

>>281530470 (OP)
Here is what I want from the remake:

>it should adapt the first 105 chapters of the manga, which is East Blue + Reverse Mountain
>an episode should adapt roughly 3 chapters, which would make this first season about 35 episodes long
>if you think the East Blue can be adapted inside 25 episodes without cutting things out, you are delusional and need to reread the manga
>new OST, new SFX, new voice actors
>the goal of the remake should be to stand on its own feet, no callbacks to previous One Piece media allowed
>small creative liberties are fine, as long as they don't cut stuff out
>the Buggy cover story should be adapted one way or another before the events of Logue Town

This would result in a perfect remake to me.

>>281541706
>different tv slots
You do know this is a Netflix adaptation and probably won't even have a slot on TV?

So are they going to show the real story of how Zeff lost his leg this time or will they get cucked by TV censors again?

>>281543361
They were not, we have these ratings. They're roughly the same as episodes around.
>>281544098
A weird choice. There's nothing about the Reverse Mountain that makes it a good ending spot. Loguetown should either start or end a season, not be some peniltimate stop.

>>281530470 (OP)
I think in the end, the length of the manga will be the undoing of the series. It's just way too big for a faithful quality adaptation.

>>281544728
oh, the ratings thing was just something I heard. if it's wrong, I apologize. Toei is just completely stupid then

>>281530470 (OP)
It's going to be soulless. The original anime up to Thriller Bark was the best, and they're neither going to replicate its success nor surpass it. They should have hired WIT to make a movie instead.

>>281541325
Get your eyes checked, faggot.

>>281530470 (OP)
Why is wit studio wasting time and money on this?

>>281545029
1. they're being funded by Netflix
2. they get to work on Japan's most beloved shonen of the millenium

>>281544926
You think so because you started from it. If you're manga first, you notice how lacking the anime is from the get-go. It's carried by the source material.

>>281545098
Wit is doing KnY?

>>281545150
I said "of the millenium", not "of 2020 and immediatelly forgotten"

>>281544728
>there is nothing about Reverse Mountain that makes it a good ending spot
The last page of the arc says otherwise and would make for a great teaser. Besides, the arc is hardly five chapters long in the manga, which would barely be two anime episodes. Plus we did get to see a shot inside Laboon in some of the promotional material.

>>281530470 (OP)
- Better pacing
- Sound effects and usage thereof that don't make my ears bleed.

>>281530470 (OP)
My expectation is it probably won't ever finish just like the LA.

>>281545297
One Piece will be forgotten the moment it ends. I'm sure if Oda actually stayed true to his word and One Piece ended in the late 2000s, I doubt anyone would be talking about it, even though it would have probably been better for it.

>>281532303
>Yes all arcs will be condensed in one or two cours
>WIT Studio
It already takes them 2-4 years to release a new season. Attack on Titan's final season was bad enough.

>Attack on Titan Final season part 3 alpha cour 6 side B

People waiting years just to see the next arc animated will be dead by the time it reaches Water 7.
>>281542062
>>I expect it to take way to long to come out, and not be good enough to warrant the wait. then I expect Netflix to quietly pull the plug after an arbitrary number of seasons
This right here is what's mostly going to happen. Lets not even pretend the quality won't be ass after each season. These Japanese animators can't keep this shit up.

>>281548326
>Attack on Titan's final season
that was Mappa

>>281530566
If it ever gets one it will have the quality of Hallow.

>>281548471
Oh yeah that's right, forgot they changed studios. Just further proves they can't keep the same studios to keep pushing out more season. Not a WIT or Mappa thing, its Japanese animation as a whole that can't keep up with these multi season shows.

>>281541325
>Toei did less than the bare minimum
True. I remember reports of how Toei prided themselves about how back in the day they used less average cell count per episode than other production studios, making their production line very cost efficient by industry standards in those times. Every now and then a big name would animate key fights so it doesn't come across as a complete trashfire. People hoped the policy would change and things would get would get better when the switch to HD happened around Thriller Bark, but everything just kept looking shit in high definition. Their approach changed with Wano, but that doesn't heal their old sins. Animation got better, but I'm still not a fan of their penchant to let everyone and their grandmothers have glowing auras up their asscracks during fights, as if it was DBZ. Not to mention the pacing, despite breaks, is still shit and don't get me started on the sound effects.

>>281544098
>>the goal of the remake should be to stand on its own feet, no callbacks to previous One Piece media allowed
This please. I remember how pissed I was with the new FMA:B adaption, when it became apparent that they were going through the chapters that were already covered in the first adaption in speed mode, making it a flawed adaption as well. Now I can choose between the first one that goes into full blown fanfic mode at the halfway point or the second one that has shit pacing and omissions for the initial arcs, thanks to being influenced by the previous one's existence. If you do a remake, make it properly ffs.

>>281530515
fpbp

remakes are slop for zoomers and brown people

>>281530515
Yea but what about the built in fanbase, anon? We’d have to promote a new IP much harder.

>>281530643
I fifnt think too deeply at first about this but your comment made it obvious any new version will likely strip those classic arcs of their soul

>>281530643
those arc had fine animations, what suffered from the anime was Fishman Island and onwards to Dressrosa

the low animation quality after made Zou comfier oddly enough

>>281545010
Nice argument, you fucking retard. Don't get into discussions if you're a subhuman monkey who has nothing to say.
>>281549022
Yeah, It's quite noticeable how their production levels gradually declined after DBZ. GT already looked kind of lame compared to the Buu saga, but One Piece looked like an low budget anime from 15 or 20 years ago when it was released.
>People hoped the policy would change and things would get would get better when the switch to HD happened around Thriller Bark
It actually got worse after Thriller Bark. Amazon Lily easily has the worst art in the entire One Piece anime, I'd say it even surpasses Dressrosa. I'm still surprised that Boa became so popular even despite being drawn horribly 9 out of 10 times she appeared in her Anime debut arc.
>Their approach changed with Wano, but that doesn't heal their old sins
Yup, It's basically the same flawed anime with a new coat of paint. I gave up on it at the end of the Oden flashback, and since then I've tried to watch some of the “good episodes,” but they've only reinforced my decision of dropping it. The manga isn't perfect, but I'd rather read the same manga chapter 10 times than watch a single Toei slop episode.

>>281531302
>focus will be on high quality animation
Do you expect them to ever say
>we're going to make this look really bad
If anything, they say the current anime is "high quality" so who gives a shit what they say.

>>281530470 (OP)
How can you remake something that hasn't finished

>>281531302
>high quality animation
Even if it's actually good it'll probably be drowned in digital post processing like in Fate or Demon Slayer.

>>281530643
the current pacing is extremely bad

>>281553469
>go on hiatus for about a year
>pacing is still as bad as ever
I would laugh if I didn't hate Toei so much.

>>281552528
Extreme situations call for extreme measures. Netflix wants to make money with One Piece, but they know that Toei's anime is overly incompetent, so they want the manga to have an adaptation in line with its success.

>>281530515
fpbp

>>281530643
I can honestly say there are hardly any fights in that period of the series that would justify a higher quality remake. Those arcs were great for the stories.

>>281530470 (OP)
I dunno... I really like old one piece anime pastel colored painting background. Probably just fix toei slow ass pacing, but we all know it's gonna be 3d shit

>>281530470 (OP)
the opposite problem as the current anime; rushed, no filler and cut content