Thread 281548334

Why don't people care about it anymore?

>>281548334 (OP)
JJK is not a character-driven series like MHA or One PIece, it's a shock value-driven one instead. Once the shock is over, there is nothing left to discuss.

>sukuna being the main antagonist
>yuta camping kenjaku
>domains being the main factors
>megumi never standing out
>geto being replaced with kenjaku
>nobara not being angel's host
>not showing sukuna taming 10s using only 10s
>not showing kenjaku acquiring his first body (i imagine him being really ugly and defective in his first body)
>nobara not being there for half of the manga and then coming back at the last minute
>sukuna not receiving a punishment and just calmly dying at the end
>yuta being too much of a mary sue
>mahito being rid of in shibuya, when he's the best antag by far

people still do care about it, and i understand the reasons for all of the above, but from a consumer viewpoint, literally the only good things to come out of the manga were gojo/geto and yuji/todo duos.
>>281548510
jjk nails the characters if anything. the reason jjk has this ending is because gege worships sukuna and he wanted to show him being able to fight the world all by himself

>>281548334 (OP)
Because normies don't read manga and the anime has multiple year long breaks between every season

>>281548535
>jjk nails the characters if anything.
Please, the characters barely have personalities or interactions; they're basically tools. See Nobara. She exists, then 'dies', and then is 'resurrected' when the plot requires it.

>>281548595
they're basically fighting tools*

>>281548595
idk bro, i find it hard to watch the kfc scene with geto/gojo or yuji/todo vs mahito and say those characters lack personalities. it's true that their personalities are never fleshed out and you are supposed to read into the archetypes, but they do have personalities.

i'd say these five def have clear cut personalities which make them standout from others: geto, gojo, toji, naoya, todo

manufactured hype dies off quickly

>>281548334 (OP)
Takaba should've killed Kenjaku not Yuta

>>281549020
It honestly boggles the mind how JJK got so big despite being so bad. Terrible writiing, no worldbuilding, badly explained techniques, but it had decent fight choreography and plenty of hype moments.

>>281548510
>one piece
>character driven
uhhh…

>>281548334 (OP)
every time gege had a choice between something that would be good for the finished work or something that would be good for week to week intrigue in the serialization, he chose the serialization

For example the nobara situation. Payoff was absolutely awful but people argued back and forth about what her role was going to be for years because gege heedlessly damaged the story to muddy the water

so now that it's a finished work it ain't pretty

>>281548334 (OP)
Most things don't get to be cultural touchstones.

>>281548535
The fact that Yuta survived the whole Yutajo thing despite the whole "I'm a monster" speech was not only very fucking stupid but also pointless as well considering Sukuna tanked the Hollow Purple

>>281548334 (OP)
What more do you want from it? It's finished and there's nothing to discuss, since no new material came out. You'll find that /a/ in general only talks about things that are still ongoing.

>>281549400
I saw some people expecting that Yuta would kill himself without CE and come back as a vengeful spirit to take on Sukuna to back that conversation up.

Maybe they should stop turning 4 page long fights into multiple episodes

>>281549522
All in all 261 was a waste of time. Its amazing how hard the final arc fell apart

>>281548334 (OP)
Because its over? Retard.

Dont know anything about that series except that the kakashi blind guy gets hyped and then jobbed. The left guy looks really cool btw

>>281549556
Name one example

>>281548334 (OP)
there's no anime so zoomies don't have epic fights, aura and hype moments

It's a Devilman fanfic and I'm sick of pretending otherwise.
>MC gets possessed/shares a body with a big evil motherfucker
>Antag roster consists of no-name shitters, a handful of dudes who exist to give the protag growth, and a close acquaintance of the MC who ruins everything
>Ends with an apocalypse and several of the MC's allies just doing a group hail-mary on the final threat out of desperation
>Plays out beat-for-beat like that garbage OVA where Amon takes over but because shonenfags are troph-fed animals they adore those moments
Gege is a hack and I hope they never pick up a pencil again.

>>281548334 (OP)
HYPE
MOMENTS
AND
AURA

>>281548334 (OP)
False premise. What makes you think people doing care?

>>281551635
Sukuna vs Mahoraga

>>281552346
>>281552677
Animeonlies have no idea what's going on at any point in time.

>>281548334 (OP)
Gaygay rushed the whole thing horribly.
The cursed energy as a energy source plotline was scrubbed.
The jujutsu society inner workings and elders plotline being done in one page.
Kenjaku. Rushed.
Yuki. Rushed.
Kenjaku's cursed spirit amalgam. Scrubbed.

Last fight was exceptional but it was not a good ending.

>>281548334 (OP)
It ended.

>>281549556
If they didn't purposely fuck up at every chance they had, that'd be a good idea too.
>let's play SPECIALZ over Yuji's breakdown. Why not? Its where you would put the OP in other anime!

>>281552725
One episode

>>281552725
Toji v Megumi

It's manga for the twitter community, manga for bots

>>281552818
Also one episode, not even a full episode either. I don’t like the anime Mahoraga fight either but stop saying gay bullshit like a retard.

>>281552860
It's another example. The anime is a bad adaption

>>281548334 (OP)
See? People still care. The ones who like it and the ones who are STILL seething (it's terminal)

>>281552879
No the anime is a good adaptation with a few questionable decisions.

>>281552725
That's one or maybe 1 1/2 with the cut scenes.
But i agree that it was too long. Obviously the have to expand the fights a bit, but that one specifically was just Sukuna slicing a few times before he figured out the gimick and knew he had to tke out mahoraga quickly.
I hope Sukuna vs Gojo is a movie otherwise it might take up a whole season.

I liked it up to shibuya but really the games and the finale were fucking shit.
Instead of interesting villains and characters, it just becomes DBZ
The best part of the series is hands down the gojo and geto backstory part. Such a good self contained story. But shibuya was good too, Mahito was a great villain, and the other sorcerers had interesting potential as characters (that was later made completely null by the following arc)

At this point i just want to see how they animate Yuta vs Ryu and Uro

>>281552909
I disagree. The things it adds are shitty and detract from the manga. It removes things for no fucking reason and it totally fails to capture the feel of the manga.

>>281553262
I hope a different studio gets the rights to JJK. Uro has a really cool technique visually speaking and crappa has a terrible track record.

>>281548334 (OP)
Why do you think this?

>>281552600
And how does this relate to JJK?

>>281548334 (OP)
it attracted the nig weebs with "consume prouct and move on to next product" mentality. And they didn't understand the buddhist symbolism and themes enough to like it for more than powerscalling shounen reasons.

>>281548334 (OP)
It had no substance whatsoever, no plot beyond generic fight scenes, no actual characters. There was nothing to discuss once the keys stopped being jingled in everyone's faces every week.

>>281548334 (OP)
>"sorcery fight"
>manga is carried hard by the fights
>no more fights
>shit writing in general, shit ending
>hype dies out almost immediately after the final chapter is released
Gege just sucks at writing, if he teamed up with a writer and continued drawing, maybe he could have a long lasting series that won't be shat on for years to come.

>>281554083
Why are you so obsessed with black people

>>281554484
Nig in this case is the base and lowest common denominator anon more then it is about race. These normies never even knew JJK existed until the anime came out.

>>281548334 (OP)
What do you mean?

what the fuck was the battle royale even about? why did everybody start fighting everybody?

>>281554680
It was for fun I think. They like it

>>281554680
When someone says Fight you start throwing hands, man.

>>281554680
Yea, and why did they call themselves Jujutsu sorcerers? I just wish there was a way to find out.

>>281548535
I still feel killing off Geto in 0 was a jig mistake, he was way more interesting than Kenjaku, it was just matter of making him not that big of a mediocre sorcerer, he was special grade after all.

I imagine jjk could have been the xmen of manga

>>281554680
Technically it'd be considered a mating ritual in this 'verse

>>281548334 (OP)
>people
nigga what people. it's literally the most insanely hyped animanga since AOT. being terminally online on weeb discords, /a/, reddit etc is seriously distorting your perception of anime.

>>281554981
It's good to keep in mind that JJK0 was a oneshot. It was not the conceived as the prequel to JJK and isn't even called JJK0. Its something like Tokyo Metropolitan Sorcery School or something.

>>281554981
>he was way more interesting than Kenjaku
Said no one ever

>>281554484
Gege is

>>281549289
Nobara coming back was cool then you feel so mad she was sidelined for basically the entire story.

>>281555931
Nobara coming back was so good.

>>281548334 (OP)
fagfag nuked his own manga the second gojo died off screen

>>281555931
that's a good way to put it

>>281554680
Reminder that that was Gege's original idea for the series.

>>281549556
One piece thread is that way

>>281556286
Ha! No kidding, as if they need to extend One Piece of all things even more. Its crazy.
Funnily enough, One Piece anime also went way overboard with the power scale in the series like what we suffered with JJK.

>>281548334 (OP)
Literally no story and no memorable characters. (It almost had memorable characters, but they were immediately ruined.)

>>281548334 (OP)
What makes you think that?

>season 4 climax is Gojo v Sukuna
>fight begins with only a few more minutes left in the season
>*smash cut*
>straight to Go/jo's corpse for season finale
Screencap this

>>281549180
>but it had decent fight choreography
Is your bar that low? The choreography is mid af.

>>281556697
It has excellent choreography. Probably Gege's greatest strength. The clarity and the way the action is conveyed is in the highest tier of manga.

>>281556648
Ok. I will

>>281548535
>>sukuna being the main antagonist
What's wrong with this?

>>281556831
It makes too much sense, or something

>>281555984
We won eternally

>>281549232
Retard

Its time we end this cycle of curses.

>>281556804
A bunch of scribbles + infodumps is not great choreography anon. You guys are very easy to impress

>>281557020
Ah, you're an anime only. Got it.
I'm talking about the manga. It's famous for its choreography

>>281555931
>>281555984
No
Literal asspull, lord Sukuna should have won

>>281548334 (OP)
It ended and we're still far off from another season of the anime.
And the author closed off every plot point to leave little to nothing open ended.

>>281557020
What? You think One Piss/Kimetsu/Gintama/BnA/any current shonen have better fight choreography than jjk? That's hilarious

>>281556831
he's boring

>>281557044
>gets a healer and says she has a low chance to live
>in a shounen
>people still thought she died.
This is what will really go down as Gege's greatest achievement.

>>281557020
like these examples >281557091
It's the difference between a big spread showing the aftermath and seeing action flow from one panel to the next

>>281548334 (OP)
>1000 asspulls
>awful ending
Why should people care?

>>281548334 (OP)
Oricon 2025. First Semester. 0 chapters dropped.
Reality itself makes ((them)) seethe.

>>281548334 (OP)
Let's take a look here.
>every character is a literal static character, every single one is forgettable
>each arc has no breathing room in between, the "plot" goes at a million miles per hour with each of them feeling like it has no impact
>worldbuilding was glossed over despite its potential
>the MC gets sidelined to the point fans forgot about him
>the most popular character got killed off despite his only importance is being a plot device
>art is mediocore at best, late in the manga everyone looks like cavemen
>gege wanked off his self-insert up until the very end
>villains were lackluster

tl;dr, Gege doesn't know how to write.

>>281548334 (OP)
Seems like a totally false premise, just look around.

>>281557044
Uraume if Sukuna won he wouldn't reincarnate to fuck you

>>281548334 (OP)
Peak popcorn anime in my opinion.
Action was cool and weekly shitposting was fun.
I even look back with a chuckle at the chapter where all the characters basically look straight into the camera and tell the audience the sukuna fight HAD to go the eay it did and get off Gege's back about it.
Gege was undoubtedly a hack, but he is an extremely entertaining hack to me atleast.

>>281557206
Yuji objectively had his world view shift. They even call back to his original speech to show contrast

>>281557253
It's crazy to somehow not see this. I can't imagine someone who says otherwise has any idea what their talking about.

>>281557264
>deal was made between Kenny and Uraume that when Uraume incarnates it will be inside a female body.
Honestly funniest thing about this is that I am not sure if Uraume was so gay for sukuna that he would turn himself into a girl so he can offer up his pussy or that Kenny thought it would be extremely funny to turn Sukuna's gay servant twink into a girl.

>>281556831
he's just a murderhobo
had no ambition or aspirations
Geto would have been a way better antagonist

>>281557264
>herself

>>281557044
nobara attacking one of the fingers was so obvious

>um so sorcerers or something
>fight fight fight
>manga ends
a fight compilation isn't a "manga"

>>281557340
She is a girl with XX chromosomes and a vagina.

>>281557340
The body is a female

>>281557264
Based sticking to your convictions, honestly.

>>281557330
All villains have the same ambition, you don't even need to know what it is cause they will always talk their ways out to justify their wrong doings, in some cases, you will have to watch protagonists talk no jutsu fillers with them
Sukuna being the main antagonist gets rid all of that, all he needs to do is being the strongest threat that other males succumbed to him willingly

>>281557091
Yes. Sakamoto Days has better fight choreography than JJK. Stupid spic.

>>281557711
No, it has more looney toons action.

>>281557711
Sakamoto Days is just *teleport behind you*

>>281555884
he is much more interesting than kenjaku but you could have both. don't kill geto in jjk0, simply make sure that kenjaku and geto are the same characters and he uses sukuna to seal gojo and then he gets rid of kenjaku himself.

>>281548535
>jjk nails the characters if anything
it does and then it kills them for purely shock value
thats why its shock driven not character driven
like psycho pass

>>281557044
>Literal asspull, lord Sukuna should have won
your seethe is why it was good

>>281548334 (OP)
I stopped caring about it when maki no diffed the entire zennin clan, that was clearly the moment gege stopped caring about estabilshed worldbuilding, characterization and plot and decided to do whatever.

>>281557044
Even if she didn't come back they would have won some other way
Sukuna's powers are just as much as an asspull as everyone else

>>281559921
JJK only killed 5 (and a half, if you count Mai being killed) non-antagonist major characters in its entire run.
This idea that it kills characters for shock value all the time is only perpetrated by retards.

>>281560198
oh get over it. Most prominent families are like this, one truly competent person is able to take all of them by themself. Also Gege clearly met someone like Naoya in real life and was just taking his anger out.

>>281560198
The Zen'in getting eliminated in no way interferes with "established worldbuilding, characterization and plot"

>>281548334 (OP)
Because it ended, and most of the hype around JJK was generated by people wondering/theorizing about what would happen next. On top of that, the final fight was so long and meandering that it eventually became boring, and the ending was fine but didn’t feel like a sufficient payoff.

>>281560286
It's not about cope, it's an objectively terrible decision. You'd think that a clan that forcibly adopted people into their ranks to collect strong powers over centuries would be somewhat relevant in a fight between present and reincarnated sorcerers, but no. I get maki being pissed off at the zennin leadership and wanting to put megumi in control instead, but killing everyone is a massive leap and pure character assassination. Being able to solo the whole clan just makes toji look retarded for not doing the same instead of trying to hide from them. Megumi having to manage that mess would have been interesting, and on and on... it just gets worse the more youthink about it.

gojo pedo

>>281560482
>Being able to solo the whole clan just makes toji look retarded for not doing the same instead of trying to hide from them.
He wasn't hiding though. They actually feared Toji doing the same thing but they believed he didn't do it under the positive influence of his second wife.
>Megumi having to manage that mess would have been interesting, and on and on
I agree with this. Megumi should have done a Giorno.

>>281560505
He can't keep getting away with it!

>>281552766
filtered

>>281552725
That fight is everything wrong with modern shonen. Just a confusing, over animated mess

>>281560286
Gege killed off almost all of his female characters. He is Naoya

>>281548334 (OP)
Zoomie slop

The setting had potential, but the writer wasn't interested in exploring it.
when you need to save the world, you will comprise on story telling.
Domain expansion was cool as fuck doe.
Regulating the curse stuff to only japan killed any future potential

>>281550527
Giga-retard, true greatness lasts.

>>281548334 (OP)
They will when the anime returns, though maybe not as much.

JJK did drop the ball in its last couple of arcs, but other popular battle shonen have fucked up far worse and endured (pic related).

>>281549180
It looks like a masterpiece compared to Kagurabachi.

>>281557249
He's a lot like Kubo after all.

>Introduce that New Shadow Style grandma as a villain right after the Sukuna fight
The fuck was Gege thinking with that? Couldn't he have shoved in that mini-arc between the Culling Games and the Shinjuku fight?

>>281561188
>villain
She's just a last period to put on the old gen bad new gen good theme. All the old farts of the Jujutsu world are now dead, and Kusakabe is the head of the New Shadow Style.

>>281548334 (OP)
Terrific fucking rushjob ending out of the blue as if the yakuza threatened him to end it

>>281552600
It wanted to be Devilman so badly, but it was actually just another Saint Seiya or Bleach where it's just bland fight scenes and nothing else.

>>281561415
>>281552600
At what point did it ever attempt to be Devilman. Like did you seriously write thinking there was some good point behind it? I'm honestly wondering if I'm speaking to a bot right now

>>281560269
Mai definitely counts. None of it was for shock value though, agreed

>>281560653
Wait, listen to the silence before they drop the completely out of place, up bad song. It is so much more impactful and fitting

>>281562540
*upbeat song

>>281548334 (OP)
Because it’s a work that is allergic to exploring anything actually interesting in it to instead make multi-page, autistic explanations of basic power systems and abilities.

It’s the manga equivalent of an autist making a fully functional personal rocket and instead of telling you how the fuck he made the thing, he’s giving you a 7 hour lecture as to why he chose for it to be navy blue

>>281548334 (OP)
Why do you even think this? What's the logic behind it?
Have you looked around you?

Somehow /a/ is more illiterate than twitter when it comes to this series.

JJK clears naruto, Bleach, OP and DBZ. Gege cut the fat from battle shonen and made the best selling manga of the decade. Whatever manga you like will never have the same motion as JJK. Generational spoiler threads that led to ALL leaks for any manga to stop. Maybe in 2030 we will have another manga blow up but nothing will hit like JJK for a long time.
>but but but if dbz, one piece, naruto or bleach had spoilers they would've
Excuses.

>>281560833
I feel people like JJK mostly because its concepts not its execution.

>>281562647
>exploring anything actually interesting in it
Are you referring to something specific?

>>281563487
The sorcerers who got kidnapped by the US Govt. and Yuji in general

>>281562647
The worst fight in this manga to me is that one chick with the constellation powers. Nothing made sense so I just skipped past the explanation

>>281563637
It was very simple and easy to understand.

>>281563571
Yuuji is one of the most bland MCs I've ever seen. He feels like an extra in his own story. And no, it's not because he's a "weak" fighter but because he has too little presence.

>>281563571
Yuji was a science experiment. People expecting him to have some crazy background story are the same retards who think shit like bleach, dbz, one piece and naruto the best manga ever. Its an extremely low bar and more often than not introduced retcons or bad writing when things get drawn out or expanded on too much.

>>281563571
I don't find the US kidnapping interesting.
Most of them got killed by curses anyway, probably only very few sorcerers actually got kidnapped.
Yuji's character was pretty thoroughly explored in an implicit manner through the manga.

>>281563706
Gege explains himself too much and complicates the story and the actions unnecessarily. An enemy of show don't Tell.

>>281563740
Who cares about background. He lacks agency and personality.

>>281563812
You arent even using the word agency correctly. Lmao how do people who cant read have an opinion on a manga? Crazy

>>281563784
That phrase is not about minimizing text, it's about maximizing depicting events instead of describing them. A conversation between characters, or a character monologuing to himself can be showing instead of telling.
Anyway, Gege is actually pretty good with showing and not telling when it's necessary. It's amateurish to stick to the idea as much as possible, as a professional you need to weigh showing (to maximize impact on the reader) versus telling (more efficient) on a case by case basis.

>>281563784
Gege never did any over explaining. Gen Z and Gen A, dont read and think anything that's more than 3 sentences is daunting to read. Which is why the most popular shit is always bleach, one piece, dbz and naruto. They are written to be surface level series.

>>281563740
It’s less about his background and more that he barely does shit and that Gege did nothing with him.

I don’t need a detailed explanation as to why he is the way he is but he’s supposed this product of a fucked up experiment and nothing is done with that, he’s just “le punch man” and he gets an interesting ability at the very end of the manga.

Meanwhile, here’s Gojo’s bishounen ass getting pages long of baby’s first venture into astrophysics when the nigga is just shooting Ki blasts.

>>281563752
>Yuji's character was pretty thoroughly explored in an implicit manner through the manga.

Come on, man. He becomes a background character after the Shibuya Incident

>>281564038
>He becomes a background character after the Shibuya Incident
He features prominently in four sub-arcs inbetween Shibuya and Shinjuku, about 50% of the arcs there.
Other than those, the sub-arcs are used to exhibit recently (re-)introduced characters or develop existing ones.

>>281564038
Are you retards constantly forgetting the entire story of JJK is a 6 month period? So you keep going on and on about someone who "doesn't have a huge impact." Even though without his ability to hit the soul directly, the fight with sukuma after gojo would've been finished in seconds. He is the only person who could've killed mahito. He spent the first half of the manga being cheerful because he had no idea what sukuna was capable of. His casual way of throwing his life into the garbage during shibuya is one of reasons sukuna got his rampage. Yuji spent the rest of the manga trying to make up for it and then had his friends body stolen by sukuna. You missed all this info because you speedread and since gege doesnt do big meals after an arc or downtime chapters all you are admitting is that you can't understand any writing that is outside the box. If the manga doesnt follow the shonen formula it leaves you confused and upset because you have no idea what to do with information presented to you in a different manner.

>>281548334 (OP)
Why is Uro the only CG survivor that didn't show up to the final battle?

>>281564289
She's a coward

>>281564289
>why did the person who immediately went into the fetal position not fight
Let's use our brains here for a second.

>>281564289
Try to remember the things you read

>>281564243
>”I’m happy go lucky!”
>Shibuya Incident happens
>”Fuck it, I’m a cog in the machine”
>Does nothing for several arcs until the final battle
>”Maybe I’m not a cog after all. Here’s a domain without a name centered around an actually interesting ability I should have gotten several arcs again (you know, against the curse nigga that can affect souls) to wrap up the manga.”
>FIN
10/10 MC, bro

>>281564805
>I like my grandpa and I'm satisfied with my life
>I need to save people because my grandpa asked
>I want people to have good deaths
>I'll postpone my own death with the excuse of helping others
>but wait what even is a good death
>maybe I'll just kill curses, that's good enough
>wait what I thought were curses can cry for each other too
>the postponing of my death caused untold damage, how can I atone for this
>I will die after helping Megumi
>Sukuna escaped, now my death would be meaningless
>but all these deaths can't have been meaningless
>maybe it's that all life has meaning

I can't believe that fucking degenerate gambler has a cute goth femboy at his side at all times

>>281564805
>my grandpa died
>he said to be surrounded by people and have a good death
>what does a good death mean?
>oh shit I have to be executed after I take in all of sukuna
>ill help people as long as I can but I don't understand why I have to die because of sukuna
>shibiya happens
>holy shit I wanna die but i need to help more people first
>now i know how dangerous sukuna is and he's planning something with megumi
>no matter what happens i wont let it happen
>ABRAXIS
>FUCK okay now I have to save megumi or try and kill him to save the world
>I dont wanna kill my friend because dying with sukuna wouldn't be a good death for him
>this whole time I was chasing my own death but all life actually has meaning and i shouldnt be throwing mine away

>>281565101
>the postponing of my death caused untold damage, how can I atone for this
>I will die after helping Megumi
The gap between these two points is almost 100 chapters long

Yuji does experience personal growth but it is a footnote in a manga which prioritizes autistic over-explanations and sucks off Yuta

>>281565471
100 chapters pass between the first point and Yuji explicitly saying(thinking) the second point, but it's fairly clear that Yuji only gives up on his suicidal extermination of cursed spirits to help Megumi. That's why he asks for his help in the way that he does. This was shown by Yuji's behavior and interaction with others.

>>281557009
i see their point. overall it is pretty plot driven, especially the crew. but the side characters are actually character driven

>>281565471
>special grade stronger is stronger than yuji
Still funny how people complain about this. Yeah 2+2 is always gonna equal 4. Cry about it. Yuji and yuta both got enough screen time. Yuji was quite literally the secret key to beating sukuna but still people cry about yuta being a big part of the 2nd half of the manga.

>>281565791
Special grade sorcerer * I type too fast

>main protagonist ultimate technique is still nameless
Says everything about this series.

JJK reminds me of YYH in that its latter half feels like the product of a young author's self-destruction under pressure. Gege idolized Togashi a little too much, it would seem. JJK's later arcs are more thoughtful and cohesive than YYH's by an order of magnitude, though.

>>281548334 (OP)
I just reached the part where Gojo dies and still plan on finishing the series (Though I'll probably laugh at the ending given how it ends with Sukuna flipping the reader off).
Really at the end of the day it's basically your traditional battle shounen with neat action sequences though it's kinda reliant on shock value ("Killing" off your series heroine is always a sign of lazy writing).

>>281548334 (OP)
It's funny how people still defend this dogshit series after the author wrote that apology message clearly stating he was just winging it the whole time.

>>281566262
>he was just winging it the whole time.
They're all winging it.

Jjk had an issue where it would waste your time explaining the powers while completely sidelining any and interesting character interactions, development or world building. I think that's why the ending feels like such dogshit, nothing feels earned because most of your time was wasted with inane garbage

The final fight was hilariously terrible and drawn the fuck out.
>New person shows up does something Sukuna never has seen before, jobs and not dies and Yuji punches Sukuna again
Also I forgot the rng ability dudes name but he literally gets forgotten when he fights the ice bitch.

>>281566460
>when he fights the ice bitch
Don't worry the anime will make a whole episode out of it in 8-9 years

>>281561319
man I hate people thinking shit was "rushed" when it's just that the author can never pay off anything they start. If they went on longer they'd just start more plot threads they don't know what to do with

>>281560198
blud would hate Sekino :skull:

>>281566486
The funniest part is that at the end of it all it looks like they didn't even fucking fight at all. Like they just stood around to just gawk at the retarded fight between Sukuna, Yuji and whoever else legend pulled out of his ass for that week.

Your favorite manga will never be as popular or as good as JJK

>>281565417
>now I have to save megumi or try and kill him to save the world
>I dont wanna kill my friend
Why is every series like this?
>you have to choose between your friend or the world
>i choose both!
Such hackneyed writing.

>>281566628
It was also a weakness of Sukuna's that Yuji was able to exploit.

>>281566628
He was in the middle of killing megumi when megumi decided to step up and help. The plan to kill megumi never actually stopped. If megumi didn't do anything and continued to sulk then he would've died.

>>281566187
That's a meme, not how it actually ended.

>>281566691
Most of the people who dislike jjk don't understand it and call everything that happened an asspull. They also say that gege over explains simple concepts. However these same simple concepts are things that none of them actually understand so they call it trash. It's very funny

>>281566015
>the technique has a name
Woah! Now it's incredible!

>>281565791
"people" complain about it.
It's unreasonable to not see all the things Yuji did and it's unreasonable to not understand the concept of Yuta being special grade

>>281563873
That's ironic coming from an ESL who doesn't even know that using agency is perfectly fine for what he was trying to say.

I'm still mad about that one chick who got major build up then jobs in her first fight harder than job jobberson.

>>281567012
I think they all wanted yuji to have some big transformation or the gojo fight is what they wanted yuji vs sukuna to be.

>>281567061
Clearly not

>>281566091
Yeah the wheels very clearly came off at some point during the Killing Game, I would argue that JJK through Shibuya was genuinely good shounen

>>281567262
People love to say this but the culling game was the original concept for the manga. Everything before the CG was improv

>>281567262
Shibuya was still character focused. The payoffs werent' always there yet but it felt like we were getting close.
The plot was good, Mahito was a great villain

But after it ended the story felt... directionless?
No more character moments and growth, just fights, and these fights were not with cool recurring characters like Mahito, but with literally who's from 1000 years ago.
Megumi's potential? Wasted, disappeared, annihilated. Any hinted plot point or power up completely thrown in the trash
Maki and Mai's arc? 3 charpters long, with one of the guy becoming a bullshit curse later on after having already lost any emotional impact
It just felt like a different series.

>>281567365
This doesn't disprove that. It just means the original idea was shit and the improv was great.

>>281567424
>No more character moments and growth
Not for Yuta and Hakari, but the others, Maki, Kamo, Yuji, Megumi, all had a lot of focus on their development.

>>281567424
>people wondered why maki cant be like toji
>was explained in HI that a way to make maki like toji was being researched
>maki becomes like toji
>NOOO NOT LIKE THAT WHO CARES IF HER TWIN DIES OR MEANT NOTHING TO ME
>all of the villains from first half are dead
>people want recurring villians
>the culling game is a literal game of death where you kill whoever you meet
>UHM IT'S BAD BECAUSE THERES NO MORE VILLIANS
>even though the cast has a set goal and the fights are needed to advance the story we STILL need downtime chapters!
>even though it's a literal time crunch for the cast, we want a break from the action
>complaining about a literal 15 year old having too much "potential" when he already took down a special grade curse, he's still just "potential man"
So many dumbass complaints. See these every single time someone mentions JJK

>>281567605
>NOOO NOT LIKE THAT WHO CARES IF HER TWIN DIES OR MEANT NOTHING TO ME
Notice how I mentioned Mai
I was interested in her as a character, that was not my issue at all.
You fundamentally misunderstand my complaint
The character moments felt less impactful. It was just fightfightfight. I wasn't in a hurry for Maki to become like Toji, I would have rather had a good Zeniin family arc for her than whatever that was.

>BUT ITS A FIGHT GAME
Ok.
I guess I was just not interested into the fight game.
>See these every single time
Doesn't the fact that so many people like shibuya but don't like culling games tip you off that there must be something very different between the two?

I will never forget you as long as I live.

>>281565417
>>281565101
Yuji went through so much.
I thought it was great how Yuji so easily accepted his execution at the start of the story but only fully realized the weight of that when confronted with his own death. Its such a natural thing for young people to not fully grasp their own mortality.
Then again in Shibuya where he says it was just an excuse to help him avoid execution when we know Yuji truly does help others even at the cost of his own health. Its so human to deny ourselves our own good points when we're feeling guilty.

>>281567846
No it only means people don't know what they're talking about. People still think domains and barriers are the same thing. Most western readers don't know anything about jjk. The translations are about 40% why the other 60% is purely lack of reading comprehension skills. JJK requires you to take a second to understand what you read. You can't gloss over it like bleach, dbz, one piece or naruto.

>>281568578
This is someone who knows how to read

>>281548334 (OP)
its dogshit but i liked laughing at it

I liked Unclena's and Kozou's dynamic.
Best parts of the sukuna fight was whenever Yuji was involved.

>>281570005
They're the best characters in JJK

I still can't believe that Kenjaku got such a shit ending. He was one of the last interesting characters and just went out with zero respect

>>281571157
You have 0 taste.

>>281548334 (OP)
The ending and lead up to it was limp. Sukuna just wasn't that interesting of a final villain beyond the reactions to the what conveniences he'd get that week to keep the fight going.

>>281568829
Notice also how literally none of my issues were with the fighting mechanics either, meaning you are fighting a strawman

fotm normie shonen slop as usual

>>281548334 (OP)
Seems like people care.

>>281571157
You didn't get the buddhism themes. The futility of trying to break the wheel of reincarnation, a futile joke of an idea.

>>281548334 (OP)
Because the ending was utter shit and the author needed half a dozen asspulls to make Sukuna work in the end.
From start to finish Sukuna was a fraud through the author make plot holes and excuses to make his shit work.

>>281571928
I hate Buddhism

I don't think there's a better battle shonen running right now.

>>281570005
Agreed.

>>281571999
It's not all bad. You can still improve your karma. Thats what Yuji is doing for everyone he can

>>281575044
so fucking based

>>281570005
Yeah uncle vs nephew was really fun. Would've been hilarious if sukuna or yuji acknowledged the other as family but they both refused to do so. Which turns around and makes it better.

Needed more Hanami

>>281576615
Gege says Hanami's a guy but he deliberately gave him nothing but femine traits. Even all the anime dubs give a woman's voice. Sounds like some bullshit to me.

>>281577083
I don't see what you mean. Dude is jacked.

>>281577083
>Gege says Hanami's a guy
He does?

>>281578218
Yea. And why wouldn't he?

it was rushed at the end
the last cool thing was gojo vs sukuna

>>281578372
However, this came after gojo vs sukuna

>>281578372
Except this >>281575044 came after gojo vs sukuna

>>281578372
This came after gojo vs sukuna, thoughbeit

>>281548334 (OP)
Gege gave up post-Shibuya and it shows.

>>281548334 (OP)
Final arc was garbage and ruined the series for no good reason
>>281548510
>MHA
Is shit

>>281578372
Butt this came after gojo vs sukuna. If you know what I mean.

>>281578372
Oops, this is me and I forgot this happened after gojo vs sukuna

>>281548535
>2025
>still salty about WWWWWWWWWWWUTA
lol rent free.
how does wuta keep winning like this!?!?!

>>281579759
I never got the hatred for him.
He had like one fight in the culling game arc and then was just one of the many people that got thrown into the sukuna meatgrinder.

>>281580172
Based on the posts it seemed like maybe 2 of the same anons. Just unable to see straight for some reason.
Bro came out for the CG and had his fights just like everyone else.

Yuta won btw

They all won, thanks you Yuji

>>281554680
I find it baffling how Kashimo vs. Hakari might be the best fight of the Culling Games, but it also features two characters who are totally irrelevant and do barely anything after it. Like why go to the effort of doing this fight then

>>281564289
She's smart

>>281548334 (OP)
What else is there to discuss?

>>281580474
It is worth it *because it is good, buruzzah.

>>281580474
idk why Hakari wasn't involved in the fight against Sukuna, if fucking Miguel gets an ENTER why sideline one of the most fun characters in an offscreen fight for the entire final arc. My strong suspicion is that Gege was just completely sick of doing JJK and hated everything about the series by that point and that was effecting his judgement.

>>281580633
Uraume needed to be stalled. Gege was seeing all the pieces on the board clearly

One of Satan's GREATEST soldiers was Ryomen Sukuna

I'm still mad about this

>>281566606
bejitabros... we're not even on the list

>>281555884
True, because both of them were just Sensui's different personalities repackaged into different characters. Geto from Shinobu, and Kenjaku from Minoru.

>>281580676
i keep that switch on reach cuz i don't trust how close these niggas be
acting like he gang but cross that line and no more sympathy
i don't want your hoe but if she tripping she get left with me
my trigger finger numb i feel like pluto try to message me

blat blat blat blat

jump out hit his dome
jump out get 'im gone
jump out do 'im wrong

if you outside better not flinch or drop your fucking phone
switch too hot don't let it fully glitch you might just clear the road

>>281580172
it's one of those things where both sides get more wrapped up in fighting with other anons than the actual object of their opinion. plus it served as convenient scapegoat for all the ways in which people felt gege was failing to deliver on the 'promise' of the story post-shibuya

>>281549289
>>281555931
>Nobara mentions Saori in passing a lot as if there'll be some soul-searching arc coming with something big to reveal between them
>Gege skips forward to the Incident
>Gege: nah, Saori fine at an office somewhere
>Gege: oh, and Nobara is jujutsu Hermione but me too lazy to care so she ded(!)

>>281565791
Yuta was he biggest shit in this manga. It would have literally be 100 times better wihout that cunt.

>>281580172
He is endlessly glazed.
Gets whatever asspull power he needs.
Rika alone has the multiple different powers.
Far too competent, ends up becoming a master swordsman in literally 3 months, despite being a whimp who never held a sword before.

Say what you want about Gojo, but at least he had tons of experience and he trained since day 1, so his skill level isn't an asspull.

>>281557711
>Flopamoto
Lol
Lmao even

>>281580726
loved that every weeb outside of JJK went along with domainposting, that was hilarious

>>281581463
This is good

>>281559732
Sound boring
Geto is just a hypocrite, Geto and Gojo drama are just another temu version of Obito and Kakashi, no need to drag it out nor focus on sth so trivia

>>281560250
>Even if she didn't come back they would have won some other way
There's no other way to win against lord Sukuna

>>281576394
They aren't related by blood so it's not necessary to acknowledge the inexistent bond

Yuji's great ultimate technique was never explained or given a name,
makes you think...

>>281581281
thank god he used the epilogue to resolve the nobara's grandmother plot point that he introduced in a guidebook

I always saw jjk as the japanese Invincible. shitty writing, but carried hard by hype moments and meme-worthy panels.

>>281581565
And thank you Jesus that he also showed us her slutty mom. Praise god.

>>281581463
me too

>>281581463
aliance

>>281581584
Kek
I kinda miss Gege now, wsj is such a hot dumpster fire as of now, even back in the day, jjk carried the magazine hard

>>281581590
imagine the hate-oyakodon

>>281581555
Are you sure?

>>281549289
>>281581281
She is just a random character that got added at last minute to form a trio, it's understandable if Gege has no feelings for her, all his love for women went for Manki

>>281581635
yeah even when it was technically shitty it was entertaining and engaging as a weekly distraction, there's nothing currently running that has much pull one way or the other imo.

>>281581286
Yuta has always been the real MC of jjk

>>281581661
>tranny doesn't get Nobara
I wish I could say I was shocked.

>>281581667
Sure, if we ignore how Yuji was connected to all the major protagonists, beat both major bosses and has his character arc bookend the entire story.

>>281581686
*protag and antagonists for that matter

>>281581686
I mean
>Yuta has always been the real MC of jjk in Gege's heart
Yuji is Gege's older brother whom he feels inferior to

>>281581555
>never explained.
holy shit. no way this anon is serious. This is a false flag to make detractors look stupid.

>>281581731
>>281581667
You can keep saying this, but it will never be true.

>>281548334 (OP)
it just needs to get on with it already, like KnY which knew that it couldn't keep milking itself forever and wani just stopped it while it was still readable

>>281581897
KnY was planned longer, but there were apparently family or health issues that cut it short.

>>281559008
I love Sakamoto days and it's one of my watches , but your post made me kek hard because it's actually just true

>>281582475
NTA. Sakamato is fun and has fun action.
I think the point is that the term 'choreography' is used differently in regards to these posts. I use it for JJK to say the action flows well from panel to panel. We see it play out.

>>281582615
The old guy is fucking awesome

>>281582615
Sakamoto has a serious issue with power creep, a bit similar to John Wick movies.

Like in the Wick movies they went from he is the best to withould these 200 peoples help he couldn't have done it.
After every instance of their crime syndicates higher ups appears an even higher one.
The plothole of the syndicate going after him for killing a person he was pressured to kill through the own rules of their system instead of saying the guy that forced him to do it should be the target.
The plothole of them not being allowed to work on continental grounds as the final straw when he was not working.
He was purely attending a private matter, not one pressured, paid, hired or debt coin forced him to do it, so he was not working when he killed the asshole.

For Sakamoto the issue is that they said he was the best and then to keep up the stakes it turned out there was an entire group as good and when he was able to use his old strength peo9from his past showed up that made him shit his pants.
Everything went power creep and far too much rule of cool.
It was one thing having a widow bride that uses electric saws, or a guy can disguise himself as others.
Yet when they started to cut down giant buildings or have magnetism that can left hundreds of tons or a guy that fears people so much he somehow copies all their personality skill and even physical prowess it turned to shit.
At that point it is not even assassination anymore.
They are just monsters that with their scale of onslaught kill hundreds to thousands of people instead of 1 certain target.

>>281582907
What I don't like is how Shin can speed blitz the guy who was beating up/training Sakamoto.
That's part of a problem of the powerscale meaning nothing. This kid is just as strong as the best in the biz, but only because its cool for the moment. Same thing with the most current chapter, we're leading up to another kid beating two Sakamoto tier enemies at once.
Things kinda just happen because it's cool. I can still enjoy that but the kids beating the pros is annoying me.

>>281583086
Yeah that is an issue, especially in shonen.
You have characters that don't degrade in age and only get stronger.
Yet somehow the new y kid jumps through the power scale in days or weeks against people that have at times a thousand years of experience behind them.

The fight that filtered millions

I'm old ass boomer(31) and JJK was entertaing as fuck. I'm waiting for Jujutsu Kaisen 2

>>281548334 (OP)
flop of the year

>>281548334 (OP)
we never cared for jjk

So is the series over?
How did it end? Yuji got a domain expansion, how did it work?

>>281548334 (OP)
because it was fotm

>>281548334 (OP)
Because like 99% of shounenshit the hype and popularity is almost entirely based around the story's somewhat interesting premises (and when I say interesting I mean interesting if you're a normalfag), but the author is completely incapable of developing said premises in a satisfactory manner so the story starts getting worse towards the middle and completely shits the bed towards the end. This is by design too, since most shounenshit authors and in reality most mangaka in general make stuff up as they go.

>>281583857
>I'm waiting for Jujutsu Kaisen 2
Anon...

>>281581763
Reminder:
Yuta is Gege's true protagonist
Megumi is Gege's heroine
Yuji is Gege's older brother figure
Yuko is Gege's sister-in-law figure
Sukuna is Gege's idol
Uraume is Gege's self-insert

>>281563268
>JJK clears naruto, Bleach, OP and DBZ
forgot about mha, cucky?

Anons, people keep mentioning Togashi being the main inspiration but I read HxH up to the end of Chimera Ants and I don't remember anything being as complicated as some shit from JJK. Did the walls of text came later?
If anything it reminds me of Nasu inventing a fuckton of complicated rules only to make the character an exception to those rules.

>>281591935
They're basically the same. Thats why people say it. Have you read the Chinera ant or the Yorknew arc? How about Shibuya or the Culling Game arc?

>>281591913
Why would anyone mention mha when it comes to big shonen? I only mentioned those 4 because everyone praises them.

>>281561181
Kubo wrote Bleach with the tankobon release in mind, meaning he wanted it to be something people could read multiple chapters of and enjoy it. This is also why it's still being talked about to this day.

Mai and Momo should've gotten a full chapter of uncensored sex.

>>281563873
>Agency is the capacity of an actor to act in a given environment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agency_(philosophy)

>>281548334 (OP)
Empty calorie buffet

>>281591935
>>281592331
The only thing HxH and JJK has in common is how the fights are written (with characters actively thinks about their opponents and how to win), but Gege knew exactly how to please the crowd by giving the readers more fun fight scenes and less walls of text

>>281583857
Anon, Gege is only 2 years older than you, of course you two share the same taste

>>281591913
>Mha
>Last volume sale was a flop
Pretty sure only fujos cared about MHA as it head to its ending, JJK carried the magazine sale alone

>>281563268
Slops like JJK comes and goes. Dragon Ball will outlive it, and people will act like they never liked JJK or give it a cope rating like 6/10 or some shit

>>281592881
>>281594080
It had threads because it had new content come out. Fucking obviously

>>281594080
>Dragon Ball will outlive it
This isn't a good thing btw.

>>281592952
this but mai and me

>>281548535
>>not showing sukuna taming 10s using only 10s
We got to see it a bit

>>281548535
>not showing sukuna taming 10s using only 10s
Why would he do that? He'd use Shrine too because there is no reason not to. Its not like he can't without Shrine, it would just be less convenient. A general waste of time.

>>281596170
You can't use two CTs simultaneously (unless you use the other technique through imbuing it into your domain) but
1) to show off to Megumi with his technique and send him further into depression
2) imagine how cool it'd look
3) Sukuna proving he can tame Mahoraga using only 10S because he is that special

>>281595801
Even during inter-season periods are there Bleach threads.

>>281597070
Probably because it's inter-season. Kind of like how JJK has threads during breaks. Or if that's too hard a pill to swallow, its like how OP has threads during breaks.