Thread 281599327

Chapter 153

Yes! Thanks for dumping anon.

Are they still in Namek (Ballroom)?

>>281599503
Yes but they are fighting now and it looks like Frieren and co will join in next chapter or two. Which basically means we are reaching the endgame of the arc

>>281599566
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP0SZTwlmMk

>>281599654
>can cut through stone
>but not a shield
make this make sense

>>281599766
Lucky for you they explain it in the chapter if you've forgotten how Ubel's abilities work

>>281599766
Same reason she can't cut through defensive magic. The purpose of a shield is to block things, while stone can be used for all sorts of things.

>>281599676
it kind of seems like UbelLand know their oppents' skillset and are enforing their good matchups

>>281599815
Metal is soemthng to be cut.

>>281599813
Even if its a clone, Land gets a lot more physical in his fighting than I expected. Did not think he could do a lift and choke.

>>281599654
I get the feeling that getting too deep into the technicalities of Ubel's autism magic is a mistake

>>281599766
>shit that's meant to be cut can be cut
>shit that's not meant to be cut can't be cut
Simple as.

>>281599830
That smug smirk on her face.

>>281599830
stone cold

>>281599766
>stones are meant to be cut
>shields and armour are meant to stop the wielder from getting cut
I explained it like your five, you're welcome

>>281599941
Later Frierenbros

>>281599450
TOLD you retards that all that talk about melee fighters having an overwhelming advantage against mages was utter bullshit and would be made irrelevant in an instant this arc.

>>281599918
This is the first time we've seen Ubel use defensive magic, isn't it? Even if its just to show the shadow warrior smashing through it.

>>281599766
She's probably seen people quarry stone somewhere and concluded that rock is something that can be cut. Conversly, steel is smelted before being worked, so that's something that cannot be cut unless it's superheated.

>>281599972
*Yawn* ugh, shounen battles...
When do we get back to the slice of life travelling adventures?

>>281599994
So she'd be unstoppable if someone showed her some tin snips?

>>281599972
Thank you Anon.

>>281599941
Interesting, so for now at least she is willing to live so as to not upset Land? I guess we can take that as proof she does care about him, as it seems she would just go for a mutual death in this fight otherwise.

Land was so fucking based this chapter

>>281599989
Yes, we've only seen her use her signature spell.

>>281599972
thanks, anon
This felt especially short, since it's so action focused.

>>281599979
I mean these two are some of the better mages out there. A lot of the shitters would be dead.

>>281599766
I get the hiatus happened but you already forgot her last fight where she got blinded?

>>281600039
Gotcha, bitch

>>281599979
You're ignoring that they point out Land and Ubel are exceptions and why they are? Even then, the warrior's speed is still a problem.

Also, from what I remember the series never said "overwhelming advantage." It named specific circumstances where a warrior has an advantage.

>>281600023
Use tin snips to cut a shield somehow l.
Then let her do it and yeah she might get around to cutting shields

>>281599972
Ubel just needs to realize even metal can be cut

>>281600039
Cool ass panel for an artist that generally doesn't do action well.

So when did Land learn super speed?

>>281600042
And other people's signature spells

>>281600091
How is Land the exception though? I get Ubel since her magic is for upclose fighting and she's a maniac, but Land?

>>281600101
She needs a four-eyes to teach her

How powerful would Ubel be if she had this mindset?

Ubel's going to turn out the lights. Wouldn't work on Himmel, as we already know. But that's Himmel.

>>281600039
>inb4 Ubel gets jealous that he's choking out another girl

>>281599865
Land shoulda just iced her right away

>>281600115
>>281600039
On both cases it seems as if he's warping in. Maybe that was the spell he got from Serie?

>>281600115
He apparently didn't, his clones can just move faster than Land himself can. As the shadow warrior put it, he can react so quickly because all he is doing is thinking. No physical effort is involved in his clones moving.

>>281600023
If Ubel had piercing magic, showing her a bullet going through shields and armour would work.

>>281599559
silly anon, this is just the first fight sequence of the larger arc as a whole

>>281600148
The shadow warrior explained it, Land can keep up with her because his clones do not have the physical limitations of a real body. All he has to do is think to get them to move, no muscles or effort required. Plus because they are clones he doesn't have to worry about poison.

>>281599979
See >>281599388

Next chapter 2 weeks time again

>>281600196
>No physical effort is involved in his clones moving.
That sounds like bullshit. The clones would have the same abilities as him. When moving it's not thinking that's holing one back but the limitations of the body, inertia, that sort of thing.

>>281600160
Kenpachi is her father btw

>>281600092
The point is just getting the idea into her head that metal can be cut and letting her autism take it from there. Ubel is precisely the kind of person who wouldn't really get it when you explain differences in tensile strength and shit.

>>281600195
His spell was one to locate his family's remains so they could be buried.

>>281600239
Figures. What's a mere 2 week wait?

>>281600214
No way, every arc is structured the same. Once they start fighting you know you have hit the later stages, usually have the secondary characters fight first and then Frieren gets involved for the final showdown. No reason to think writer has totally overhauled his arc structure.

>>281599676
Nice to see the Zoltraak resistance of equipment is still playing a role in things. It was so long after Frieren first mentioned it before it became relevant again (i.e. when Fern half-killed the nun).

>>281600261
It's all subconscious.
She would see a shield and know it's hard to cut, you would have to cut a lot of shields and have her also cut them to convince her subconscious that shield does not equal block

>Serie visibly shitting it
Hahahahahaha, what a fraud

I'm waiting for WARRIOR GORILLA to meet Sein again

>>281600242
The clones are (presumably) made entirely of mana. I doubt inertia and limitations of a normal body apply in the same way. Recall how the mana swords that one demon made could outright change weight in an instant.

>>281600242
Yep it's complete horeshit, just a made up asspull to explain why Land didn't die on the spot.

>>281600239
biweekly is better than a constant hiatus at least

>>281600391
Unless she simply doesn't want her mages to die.

>>281600335
the major factions are all treating this fight as a minor skirmish to be covered up that doesn't change their overall plans

>>281600429
He wouldn't have died on the spot regardless since its a clone.

>>281600072
Ubel might just be be dead if she were fighting Iris. She can't cut the poison needles, she can't resist the poison, and the relatively complex defenstive magic that mages use has a high cast time compared to Iris' attacks.

>>281600195
he like all mages chosen for this mission asked for a non-combat spell. he wanted a spell to find his parents' remains.

>>281600428
Nothing we've seen from him in the first exam suggested he can do this. It feels like an asspull.

>>281600391
she needs to do something soon or she's not beating the allegations

>>281600516
>he like all mages chosen for this mission asked for a non-combat spell. he wanted a spell to find his parents' remains.
And maybe he got some spell to zip around, which would come useful in battle as well. It would be less of an asspull than his current bullshit.

>>281600486
Yes that's what I thought last chapter, he would obviously die to being backstabbed by super-assassins only to reveal that he had a stock of clones on standby. I did NOT expect that he has super-speed because, uh...thought?

Land's clone has funky electrical effects when it's moving fast in these panels. In the anime they had him use an electric attack to subdue Scharf. This is probably related to how it's moving fast.

>>281599388
Cute Hair

>>281600606
So...Thunder Breather? Cool.

i cant take the TWO WEEKS thing anymore im going to SNAP

>>281600606
Could be moving around with electrical impulse.
Like Killua in HxH

>>281600251
That explains what a psychopath she is.

>>281600698
As long as it's predictable it should be a breeze. We get the official teaser early, and then news about the leaks, it makes the time fly by.

>>281600023
Gotta go see some movies

>>281599676
He can react fast because he's watching it all from his veranda back home in real time.

>>281599766
You can't. Ubel's abilities are completely retarded.

>>281600698
what is a mere 14 days? a little over 1/1000 of my life.

>>281600533
He had no need to do any fighting like this in the first exam, just a feint with a clone and a knock out shock.

is that stone around her neck one of the anti-magic stones?

>>281599450
Ohh, so we finally get to see some attack magic from Land

>>281600962
Ah yes, he's just some mage who had this super speed equivalent to these top warriors.
Another reason this feels unjustified is that when Serie mentioned her bodyguards for the event, she specifically mentioned Sense and Falsch. We know nothing about the latter but we know the former is a beast and solid up close as well.
Serie said nothing about Land, the shadow warrior counter.

These literal who assassins have way too much plot armor. If they are not dead in the next chapter...

>>281601007
Interestign theory. But this should mean that others have it as well, including the ones fighting Land and Ubel.

>>281599559
The way shonen shit handles fights we can be on this for another year

>>281601076
i thought they were rare and very expensive

>>281601078
This can be a pain in the ass. I'm not a fan of one panel fights, but if this is all the time we're getting for the apetizer, the main course is bound to take a lot.

>>281599327 (OP)
Man alive, Serie is MONSTROUSLY ugly

>>281600962
I only managed to take Scharf's hindquarters because I was fast and stealthy, I could have ****** blitzed clone!Ubel from the rear too, but I didn't want her to get the wrong idea.

>>281599830
>You're not blank because X you're blank because Y
This is fucking retarded

>>281601078
>>281601108
this fight alone will likely be 4-6 chapters

>>281601051
But Sense states Land and Ubel are like her when it comes to fighting warriors. Serie evidently didn't know this (she has known them for much less time).

>>281601159
God, I hope not. I'm hoping that they chapter they focus on something else, just like in the anime they'd cut from one battle to another.

>>281600698
is it still on 2 weeks schedule? I thought only first 2 chapters are but idk

>>281601254
Aside from hiatuses its been every 2 weeks for most of the past couple years I think.

>>281600195
It looks like the lightning super-speed that anime Frieren had in the clone fight.

>20 chapters a year
>need about 5 years worth of chapters to get enough for a single anime season

>>281601243
What's the fucking point of shadow warriors if half the mages in this fight can counter them?
Is this just an excuse to add a counter to Frieren?

>>281601301
Honestly, it looks more like what Land used when he snuck up on the flowers guy, except that was never played up as super speed, just the other guy being distracted and not good at mana detection.

>>281599676
My nigga Land is… strong

Remember when this was a fun cute little travelogue where we reminisced about old friends and made new memories with new ones?

>>281601369
It will get back to that, in 50 chapters

>>281599890
You should’ve killed her you spindly twink

>>281601314
>What's the fucking point of shadow warriors if half the mages in this fight can counter them?

Because they are still a threat, just not an insurmountable one?

>>281600197
Sense is so much cuter than Fern when she’s not hiding her lil hebe self in greasy hair

What does any of this have to do what the manga was supposed to actually be about?

>>281601314
Would you rather the team be made entirely of conventional mages so they can get rolled over? Let's not bring Stark and Sein either or they might actually counter something important.

>>281601528
>Sense is so much cuter than Fern
Not a high bar to cross

>>281601369
>Remember when this was a fun cute little travelogue where we reminisced about old friends and made new memories with new ones?

You mean aside from when they had to kill a demon that had been sealed for 80 years, slay a massive dragon, oppose an army created by a demon, etc. This series hasn't been just a "fun cute little travelogue" since the very early chapters.

>>281601314
What this shows is that shadow warriors can match first class mages blow for blow. And there are more shadow warriors then there are guards for Serie so if all goes well they should be able to overwhelm the guards and isolate Serie for however they plan to assassinate her.

>>281599327 (OP)
Did you mean Chapter 143, silly anon?

Also despite the fact that some anons are clearly disappointed in this arc, I remember the same comments at the start of Macht's arc. Maybe it will get better just like that one did. I am still neutral about it.

>>281601302
This but unironically. The authors will kill this work like Murata and Onepunchman. Gassed after next season.

>>281601544
I'd rather at least one of Ubel and Land to be at a major disadvantage, and from what we knew it should have been Land as nothing suggested he would be able to match their speed.

>>281601540
Have you considered your idea of what the manga is supposed to be about is incomplete? This is ultimately another more serious arc with wide-spanning regional effects, like the one with Aura's forces, the 1st Class Mage Exam, the Golden Land arc, etc.

>>281601369
the demons changed the tone of the story

>>281601569
>You mean aside from when they had to kill a demon that had been sealed for 80 years, slay a massive dragon, oppose an army created by a demon, etc.

You mean the things that got wrapped up inside a couple of chapters as opposed to being an overwritten diversion?

>>281601428
You think a warrior like her is easy to kill? Land remarks right after about how resilient her body is. Trying to electrocute her into unconsciousness may have been the easier option, if only she hadn't trained herself to not lose consciousness.

>>281601314
>What's the fucking point of shadow warriors if half the mages in this fight can counter them?
they brought mages who can specifically fight warriors. but the actual plot device is so they can set expectations for the fight against rivale and the new demon king or whoever is at the end of their journey. he is probably a hero class of demons.

>>281601302
Depends on how big the seasons are. I highly doubt season 2 of Frieren will be as long as season 1.

>>281601742
But a 2 cour ending after the goddess monument arc would be perfect.

>>281601369
>Remember when this was a fun cute little travelogue where we reminisced about old friends and made new memories with new ones?
season 3 is definitely missing that so far

>>281601769
True, and it would be ideal. But with how long the 1st season took to make I am just not that optimistic we'll get that kind of length again.

Frieren being weak in melee makes no sense, since her primary opponents are demons and they are physically superior to humans.

>>281600101
It isn't about metal and more about it being a shield. Everyone always subconsciously know that armor can't be cut, otherwise it wouldn't be an armor. As long as she still think of it as a shield she won't be able to cut it.

>>281601699
this arc would be better if they focused more on it, but maybe they are shying away since flamme's VA died

>>281601775
I'd pay good money to see some of the cute stuff Fern and Stark have gotten up to during this arc animated. Not to mention Frieren's once a decade state of rage.

>>281601699
This arc will end with Frieren talk no jutsu'ing the emperor and Frase by reminiscing about Flamme and then they work together to defeat the shadow warriors

>>281601806
They could delay the second cour as needed to get it right.

>>281601007
Given the apparent value, that alcoholic would have traded that for booze money long ago if it were worth anything.

>>281601845
Good, it would be more fitting than all the current fighting.

>>281601775
Yeah, I need more day to day moments of Frieren intereacting with people on her travels, reminiscing about her old crew and learning some new lessons.

>>281600533
The Fern, Ubel and Land trio was clearly a trio of special snowflakes representing the new gen of talented mages. Land prefer to not dirty his hand and he has been requested for this mission. You thought he would be useless?

>>281601813
Except Frieren's main strategy for killing demons relies on surprising them, not overpowering them in melee. Plus when she got her reputation as Frieren the Slayer she had Eisen and Himmel to protect her from melee.

>>281601540
All of this goes back to Flamme and what it means for magic to spread across the world. That's why it's all set in Flamme's home. That's why her adoptive mother is the target. Lowe wants to remove it from the world. Frase wants to spread it everywhere for the glory of the Empire.

>>281601845
The emperor doesn't want any of this shit. He just wants to go talk to Serie and make peace.

>>281601939
>a trio of special snowflakes
Nothing special about them when you had people like Denken, Methode and Wirbel who are also first class mages, and better than the 3 you mentioned.

>>281601960
And I would be with you if they still kept that in the foreground somehow. Instead, it's starting to feel like a pretext to go full shonen.

>>281601699
Serie and Frieren are such a bickering grandmother-granddaughter pair

>>281602053
Their interactions and dynamic has been by far the best part of this arc.

>>281602002
> Denken, Methode and Wirbel
What part of new gen did you miss? Denken is a geezed, Wirbel is in his 30s and Methode is also older than these three. Fern, Ubel and Land are all teenagers.

>>281602110
Wirbel is earlier 30s, Methode late 20s or early 30s. Ubel and Land are probably mid 20s with Fern being younger, but hardly a generation between them.

>>281602053
why does Frieren hate her so much?

>>281600195
Ubel points out that these straight forward attacks are extremely telegrphed for a mage who can read the flow of mana, but they're hard to deal with for warriors who rely nly on touch, sight, smell, hearing and taste.

>>281602184
Does she? She doesn't seem to care all that much about her. It feels like Serie has it out for her more than the other way around.

serie being the most powerful mage simply because she never fought and just survived

>>281601314
Melee warriors were never once a counter to mages. Frieren just bigged them up for dramatic tension but in reality the top mages would fodderize the SWs. How do mages deal with super-fast backstabbing anti-mage combat specialists? We just saw how this chapter: plot armor and wild asspulls. Notice how they talked shit this chapter about how casting defensive magic is too slow? Complete BS because Frieren cast it against the shota demon so fast he may as well have been a normal human civilian compared to her. “We have Zoltraak resistance” lol who cares none of these mages uses Zoltraak so that doesn’t matter. The SWs are simply going to be fodderized exactly as I predicted, all the hype and bigging up earlier was just that. This manga would NEVER commit to an actual disadvantage for the mage side.

>>281599865
Perfect character for ryona, torture, humiliation, guro.

>>281602228
remember she was going to 360 no scope macht but the other mages held her back

>>281599327 (OP)
does Löwe hide a Sharingan?

>>281599813
>>281599830
Hot

>>281602290
she is like king from one punch man

>>281602228
Then what do you make of her going off to challenge Macht alone and treating it like a game?

>>281602002
>Nothing special about them
Fern is an insanely talented mage who can end up being second to Flamme
Ubel is a walking hardcounter who can easily punch above her weight. Her default combo also gets stronger with every spells she steals
Land is one of a kind clone magic specialist, he can safely scout the most dangerous areas

>>281599972
Thanks for dumping, next chapter's in two weeks then?

>>281599830
Übel must be fucking jealous

>>281602306
i never saw the show

>>281602267
>Notice how they talked shit this chapter about how casting defensive magic is too slow? Complete BS because Frieren cast it against the shota demon so fast he may as well have been a normal human civilian compared to her.

What scene are you talking about? I'm drawing a blank on Frieren fighting a "shota demon." But unless the demon was using insane speed against her then that doesn't say much about Land saying these warriors are too fast for defensive magic to be very useful.

>>281599972
Thanks for the dump anon
Please live Übel

>>281601816
I can't take shields or armor seriously anymore. Stormtroopers, the knights from the new suicide squad cartoon, plenty of run of the mill soldiers in isekai. They're all dressed fancy but it's as protective as cardboard.

>>281602409
0% chance she dies, she's being set up for future arcs. She's gotta find her sister after all

WE STILL HAVEN'T SEEN A MOTHERFUCKER WHO CAN SUMMON A LOBSTER-LION HYBRID!
WHERE ARE MY SUMMONERS?
Only got Land, he kind of plays like my preferred magic user. Everyone else sucks dick.

>>281602267
>How do mages deal with super-fast backstabbing anti-mage combat specialists? We just saw how this chapter: plot armor and wild asspulls.

In the same scene where we are told of the situations where mages are vulnerable to warriors, we are also told there are mages that have specialties that let them do well in close combat and against which that vulnerability either does not apply or applies less. Land and Ubel are simply examples of that (Ubel less so given she needed a more specific match up to not simply die).

>>281602465
We already had golem summoning.

>>281602396
probably means solitar

>>281601574
A small anti magic stone is perfect for assassination.

>>281602465
Summons would mean teleportation magic. As far as we know only demon magic is capable of that. Human/elf magic can't do it.

>>281602465
Lernen's flask golems kind of function like summons, and Frieren used the spooky horn for some kind of statanic summoning ritual.

>>281602511
If so, Solitar was not exactly a speed-focused demon. She relied more on surprise, large scale attacks and sheer power.

>>281599972
thanks, anon.

>>281599450
>>281599472
>>281599540
what a souless art

>>281602329
You're just listing their basic attributes. We know them. That does not make them special in any way compared to other first class mages.
>Fern is an insanely talented mage who can end up being second to Flamme
Kek. Just because she's fast with Zoltraak? Fern is overhyped.
>Ubel is a walking hardcounter who can easily punch above her weight.
Ubel is getting her ass kicked pretty hard in this fight, and she was supposed to be the more melee oriented one.
>Land is one of a kind clone magic specialist, he can safely scout the most dangerous areas
I'd be okay with Land if he was played as such but they're playing his as a frontliner.

>>281602267
>We just saw how this chapter: plot armor and wild asspulls
Ubel admits she can't win without a suicide attack, Land is tanking with his clones but can't deal any damage.

>>281602396
He clearly means Draht

>>281602396
Draht who tried to slice her head off while she was in jail. He cast the wire so fast mid-conversation that it couldn’t even be seen on-panel. She cast defensive magic right up against her neck just where the wire landed. This is reality, you can’t have it both ways.

>>281602511
Draht, the demon that Frieren finished off with her bare hands while throating his small and thin wire.

>>281602515
Frieren literally says in episode 1 that she needs a dragon horn for summoning (of what, we do not know)

>>281602614
Land could have killed that bitch right then and there.

>>281602630
To be fair it could be argued that she read him like a book after he just sliced the guard's head.

>>281602483
>>281602537
Golems don't count, they are always just rocks in the shape of a man. There has to be a way to use mana to create 'beings', Land clones himself. Someone could use something similar to that and take the aspects of creatures and combine them.

>>281600395
WHEN the FUCK is my GOAT Sein fighting

>>281602630
That wasn't called defensive magic, hence Draht just calling it mana and saying he would cut through it by applying more force. Regardless, no remark was made on it being as fast as a warrior's attacks.

>>281602553
There's no way he meant Solitar, but anon, Solitar is the one character we've seen outspeed Fern in casting.

>>281602752
>Solitar is the one character we've seen outspeed Fern in casting.
No we didn't.

>>281602747
It was cast so fast it couldn’t be seen on-panel.

>>281602662
And in that context it could be calling something to her from a distance rather than teleporting it. Maybe I'm remembering wrong but when fighting the teleporting demon I thought Frieren said this kind of magic could not be done by her. Then again, perhaps using a summoning circle would be different from that kind of teleportation.

We have yet to get an explanation for where mage staffs go and how mages summon them, perhaps it is related.

>>281602662
>Land could have killed that bitch right then and there.

How? He outright says afterward that her body is even more resilient than he thought, and his offensive attacks seem to just be lightning-based. We've seen with Stark that warriors can take a lot of physical punishment and barely be injured.

>>281602736
Poor Sein, people were so hyped when he was back and he got almost nothing after his re-introduction.
He had a nice exchange with Frieren and could have had a nice moment with Stark but they went for the "muh milfs" joke but other than that he's been pretty much a glorified extra. It feels like even Felsch did or say more in recent chapters.

>>281602717
I mean plants are technically "beings".

>>281602852
Because it felt like he tried to knock her out. He could have stabbed her in the neck with some of her own needles.

>>281602802
I took that to mean he had already set the wire up, just not "activated" it yet. Frieren realized this and had already concentrated mana around her neck. Honestly we don't know enough about Draht's magic to say one way or another, but I do not think the intention was to make Draht as fast as a warrior, and even if it were Frieren did not cast the defensive magic spell here so it doesn't matter.

>>281602630
You think Land and Frieren have the same casting speed or are in the same league? You di know that she could destroy Land and Übel without breaking a sweat, right?

>>281602914
And assuming he even could do that before she countered him you think that would have killed her? Trying to knock her out may have been the smart thing to do as the damage threshold could be lower.

>>281602878
He will obviously have his big moment when Gorilla will appear.

>>281601369
Frieren is story about moving on. We’ve had enough flashbacks about the old hero party.

>>281603130
Time toreminisce about the protagonist's one time mentor instead!

>>281603130
if its about moving on then why are they going to heaven to meet the ones they lost?

>>281602800
We most definitely did. Solitar hadn't even summoned that sword when Fern started to fire the Zoltraak and yet she completely cut Fern off.

>>281603513
Unless she already had those swords ready moments before (we don't see the sky here until they look up and see it full of those swords). We see later in the fight (when Stark uses his body to block some of them) that the attack isn't so fast that it can't be reacted to.

I'm glad the anime has such top tier people working on it because the illustrator, as good she is in making designs, has no talent at all for drawing engaging battle scenes.
It all looks so static and not at all fluid.

>>281603705
Fern would have sensed the mana of the swords. It would be impossible for her not to. They showed up in the sky after that because Solitar just summoned them all.

>>281603513
>>281603835
Course none of this ultimately matters as all Land is saying is that he can't use defensive magic fast enough. Whether others can is immaterial. Heck, we see Ubel use defensive magic quickly enough to block Routine, she just smashes right through it.

>>281603513
Ever notice how demons are always strangely non-lethal when they get the initiative? Except for when they can't win? I wonder if their genetically coded to give humans a sporting chance lol.

>>281604156
Solitar specifically wanted to talk, she was not trying to kill. That's her whole thing.

>>281602465
>LOBSTER-LION HYBRID
Will it taste good with butter and pair well with white wine?

>>281601642
>This is ultimately another more serious arc with wide-spanning regional effects,
And if this was a manga about wide spanning regional effects this might bot be a gigantic waste of time

Land has to be the most boring character in the series. The whole "stoic unflappable genius" thing got old fast.

>>281604254
And my point is this manga has also been about these wide spanning regional effects ever since the arc with Aura. That you prefer the traveling side of things doesn't change that.

>>281603513
how did fern recover from this? thats broken bones and a major artery severed. she would be dead in seconds.

>>281604327
He's just like me.

>>281604327
I like his banter with Ubel, they bounce off each other well.

I mean are you telling me you didn't chuckle at his attempt to run away back when Ubel came to his village, or the "do I need to find a leash/reins" running gag they have?

>>281604356
Solitar states later that beings with a lot of mana are more resilient physically as well.

>>281599865
ryonabait

>>281604212
But both Lugner and Lenie gave Fern and Stark multiple chances to escape with their lives. Only Draht went for the kill -- against Frieren whom he had no chance whatsoever against. It seems weird is what I'm saying.

>>281604327
I think Land is a pretty cool guy. Eh makes clones and doesn't afraid of anything

>>281604572
Lugner was focused on figuring out where Frieren was and what she was doing. As Fern pointed out he didn't try to kill her because he only sees Frieren as a threat, not Fern or Stark who he thinks he can kill at any time.

Lenie I have no idea beyond her thinking the fight was over and losing interest. She seemed poor at assessing things.

>>281603513
And this scene was especially silly because they KNEW they couldn't beat Solitar, their entire mission was to buy time, and they refuse to....BUY TIME, steadfastly refusing Solitar's constant offers to give them time. Good thing for them this manga has no stakes, ever.

>>281604327
Zero indication that his skill or intelligence is higher than your average first class mage

>>281604695
They've had it hammered into them that demons only speak to humans in order to trick them. They had no way of knowing Solitar was an exception.

>>281604812
Why are you surprised when the previous chapter ended with the start of the fight?

>>281604812
never underestimate mages

>>281604885
ANd this is where Stark SHOULD have stepped up to be an ultra chad. Meet the talk request with full courage to put his life on the line to protect his crew. Do his best to engage with Solitar's talk, draw her interest for as long as possible. Ask if he could touch her horns, anything to put her off-balance if even for a moment. Because it's not a matter of being ready to fight, both of them knew they couldn't fight her.

>>281601145
You are monstrously homosex.

>>281604973
I want her feet on my face so bad.

>>281601528
>lil hebe self

Sense is in her 30s, anon.

>>281605691
This arc is about a lot more than just the shadow warriors.

>>281600039
I thought he was shoving her through the window at first but no, his quick movement spell just generates enough force to break it.

>>281600197
pacifist btw

It's hard to get invested in fights because of the absurd levels of plot armor the main cast has. It doesn't matter how reckless they act or what strategy they use. The demon who has them dead-to-right will somehow lose and die like a dog.

>>281606533
Hell yeah, fuck demons, tdd

>>281606533
If you want the heroes to lose then it's going to be hard for you to be invested in most fights in most series.

>>281606630
No, I want the heroes to treat danger appropriately and suffer consequences for making mistakes. Pic related is one of the most egregious examples. Frieren acted recklessly and should be dead, but she got rewarded due to plot armor and learned nothing.

For an example of how to do stakes in a fighting manga, look at Jojo. The main cast will win 99% of the time, but the risk of death exists, and if a character acts like a retard they will be punished.

>>281606715
That "fight" served to introduce the Shadow Warriors into the story, but thematically Radaal choosing to not kill Frieren fits in with his listless nature. He was just following orders without thought or reason. He was just going down memory lane for a final time.

>>281606715
Yes this is a no-stakes manga. Fighting demons should be a high-stakes game of certain death, not a Fairy Tail asspull parade and plot armor where they let the protags go over and over again. These super-elite anti-mage Shadow Warriors should at LEAST bring the THREAT of dropping bodies on the slightest mistake or bad luck, not this.

>>281606715
She had never in her life faced a shadow warrior. I am curious though what you mean by "acted recklessly"?

>>281606715
The heroes are basically RPG characters, even if they got super beat up and nearly killed, they'd just cast heal and be good to go. You know they aren't dying until they reach their destination, so it's more about the journey than the stakes really.

>>281599327 (OP)
This thing abandoned it's main cast faster than One Punch Man, that's how you know an author wrote themselves against a wall

>>281599813
kino

>>281607062
Doesn't help that the ones getting the focus now lack any sort of charm

>>281599972
finally a good chapter

>>281606907
Firing a close-range Zoltraak instead of literally anything else. Frieren has better fitting spells, but she didn't use them because... reasons? A mistake that foolish should result in death.

>>281607118
I think she is quite charming

>>281606715
>my comic book isnt serious enough >:o

>great demon makes the mistake of getting distracted for 0.5 seconds
>dies instantly
>human makes a mistake placing them dead-to-rights
>suffers zero consequences

Wow, what great action writing!

>>281607164
>Frieren has better fitting spells, but she didn't use them because... reasons?

Such as? She's already said Zoltraak is her fastest attack spell. She presumably suspected he could smash through defensive magic.

>>281607118
Land and (especially) Ubel are quite popular characters.

>>281607062
How are they abandoned? Fern and Stark open up this chapter.

Gosh it really grinds my gears when my comic book, which is written for literal babies, has poor writing.

>>281607319
The bare-handed wind spell she used against Draht. Solitar's mana burst. Her ultimate gravity spell. You could argue the last one is overkill, but it's better to be safe than fucking dead. The only way it makes to not be serious is if she read the script and knew she was never in any danger.

>>281607415
Again, all of those are slower. Given the Zoltraak wasn't fast enough, attempting any of those spells would have had the same result (him dodging or redirecting the attack and pinning her down) or worse.

Do you think the mangaka intended for muh secret anti mage organization to ever appear or did editor-san asked her to drag the story for sales, include the battle manga arc characters and this is the best she could come up with?
Editor-san could've gifted her with some book on imaginary creatures rather than this trite shit.

It's like an entirely different series.

>>281607493
It's a he.

>>281604343
No it hasn't. At most we had a demon hassling a local lord.

>>281607823
Ubel states in her introduction that Aura made travel through the region dangerous, and her defeat changed the whole area. But I guess it depends on what you consider the cutoff point for a wide ranging effect.

I want to see kraft in a real fight

The Sein and Gorilla dual ENTER scene is going to be so kino 19 chapters/8 months from now haha.....

>>281599766
magic

>>281601369
They completely lost the spark and devolved into a generic slop. I don't know if the anime can recover any usable material from this borefest.

>>281599813
I really love Land's fighting style. He makes full us of the fact that his clones move with his thought and he can basically use them to tank hits. I do wonder why he keeps protecting his neck tho. Maybe the prerequisite for a spell that strong is that if the clones head gets chopped off, his real body dies as well.

>>281609141
>wonder why he keeps protecting his neck
His clones can still get killed and it takes him a while to create new ones when they do

>>281607174
She's obviously the most pandering fan service character.

>>281607415
maybe she was saving the force push and didn't use it because Fern got there

>>281603513
They were probably already floating above them.

>>281601663
What happened

>>281607415
Both of those are slow though.

>>281609811
>Maybe I'll get some food at that human camp fire
>What's the worst that could happen?

>>281609811
demons are mimics, they evolve to hunt their prey (humans). you'd be far more relaxed around the right than the left.

>>281599830
Now rape her

Linie was very cute.

>>281610476
Linie > Aura

>>281610387
They're NPCs in a game world, not an actual organism with evolutionary forces. They attack humans because that's their setting, they themselves couldn't explain why. It's like asking a human why they continue living and not commit suicide. There's evolutionary reasons why we prefer living over dying , but from out individual perspectives it's just our setting. Demons (Mazoku, the enemy race in DragonQuest) are not native organisms, they are magic golems / magical weapons systems or otherwise alien beings from a different plane.

>>281610476
>>281610526
This

>>281610573
demons do evolve in this world

>>281599766
Shields are made for blocking sword cuts so they obviously can't be cut.

>>281610387
Demons are cheap wiafu bait made to get dumb readers to go OMG AURA!!

>>281610793
Oh no not cute girls, whatever next...

>>281610688
All that conversation Macht was there listening out of respect for her power but clearly didn't comprehend a single thing she was talking about. Lesser demons who were there would be desperately trying to memorize everything to repeat on command to pass any snap test, like Kim's generals with their notepads out. She's not actually delivering the author's worldbuilding intent, she's just sublimating her autistic interest in biology onto her own situation. And her evolution theory is wrong because if it were true they'd lose the fucking HORNS which act like a blaring flashing alarm to all humans in eyesight. Qual wouldn't look like a traditional Mazoku -- because the mangaka just prefers to draw humans, that's all (or it could be an editorial choice).

Probably demons don't have the intellectual sophistication to consider the existential questions of the existence of demons and humans. Likely to a demon, a human is similar to themselves just weaker and so therefore lower in the natural hierarchy and weather they decide to deal with them or kill them is up to whichever interests themselves most at any given time. That's why they all seem comfortable with being around humans even though their understanding level of humanity is low -- to them, they know enough. And on a surface level they appear to be right as humans have their own power order, can kill one another, etc.

I wish I could have engaged in experiments with her to see if humans can impregnate demons.

>>281610893
>they'd lose the fucking HORNS which act like a blaring flashing alarm to all humans in eyesight
I mean, even setting aside the possibility of the horns having some sort of practical function for the demons, given how humans still fall for their deceit, the horns aren’t really an issue, so this complaint is just needless quibbling.

There does need to be an explanation for why that one demon looked so monstrous compared to all the others, though.

>>281610964
I bet she’d have brought on Stark as an experimental "father" for a child demon (who wouldn’t understand the purpose of that exercise at all).

>>281605923
I don't think she would be too opposed to it as reward for an accomplishment. Elves have low or no libido, but that doesn't mean they would reject your advances outright. For example, if Himmel had approached her directly after their adventure I doubt she would have said no to a relationship, with a little convincing. A marriage will pass her in the blink of an eye so why wouldn't she humor her friend?
If destiny and time travel hadn't chucked him that is...

>>281611166
>Frieren on top berating me
So hot

>>281599972
>the timing

>>281599522
I can't quite make sense of what her skirt in relation to her left leg is doing in the first panel. Is the base of her leg still wrapped in the skirt, are those black panties, what am I looking at?

>>281599830
The sfx in the last panel makes it look like they censored his crotch.

>>281599865
I'd still expect her nervous system to be affected in some kind of way after an electric shock, despite shrugging off the pain, but I guess the author thinks differently about that topic.

>>281599941
Why doesn't she just imagine the shield as a part of them, what happened to the Ubel that beat Sense, bad writing?

Things are getting serious

>>281611537
Hair is part of the body, a shield is not
I can't believe I'm responding to such a retarded post

>>281599339
Dance baby dance!

>>281611586
Or she just finished eating. I want to see her actually do something for a change.

>>281601039
>some attack magic from Land
he just zoltrakks from 1000 alts that he remotely controls.

>>281600039
GIWTWM
But how does that make any sense, you had her, just zoltrack her ass in the heart

>>281611473
Land's clones are all erect. prove me right.

>>281611656
>Or she just finished eating
She put the cake fork down straight after Fern told her that several Shadow
Warriors were unaccounted for, said she needed to take action then got up and walked off from the ballroom
Not sure how much more clear you can get than that

>>281611586
time to use THAT

>>281599972
>aim for their eyes!
i guess Ubel will copy the "butterfly" magic that blinded her?

>>281609811
An idea was made, a wonderful, awful idea.

>>281611762
Wouldn't have had chance to empathise with Neu or whoever it was that did it to her

>>281600101
Zoltrak/basic offensive magic can already penetrate normal armor. this girl is just so dumb.

>>281599339
>Schritt already passed out
lol

>>281611783
she cant into zoltraak

>>281601544
>>281601314
it's already implied the shadow warriors of Wang already killed lots of mages. and this time around, they're all first-class mages, specially selected by one of the last elf archmages who survived countless battles. these mages should not be easy to kill.

>>281602588
>Kek. Just because she's fast with Zoltraak? Fern is overhyped.
higher prana than most mages and demons. she's probably the Flamme of current gen of mages. also sniper zoltrak gun from the clouds.

>>Ubel is a walking hardcounter who can easily punch above her weight.
>Ubel is getting her ass kicked pretty hard in this fight, and she was supposed to be the more melee oriented one.
this i agree with.

>>Land is one of a kind clone magic specialist, he can safely scout the most dangerous areas
>I'd be okay with Land if he was played as such but they're playing his as a frontliner.

he can create multiple clones who teleported behind you and in front of you. his cloning is so perfect most mages can't even tell he's using clones until it's too late. he's OP as hell.

>>281599472
She can cling on walls?

>>281599339
>Misa Japanese Ammo?
Eh?

>>281599766
Stones can be sculpted, hence cut. Shields and armors are meant to stop cuts.

>>281599918
It kinda reads like a tract about how RPGs differentiating assasins from warriors is stupid.

>>281610765
Shields break in battle all the time

>>281611911
>she's probably the Flamme of current gen of mages
Zero proof of that. Flamme was a genius who ended up writing over 100 papers on magic. She also had a burning ambition. Fern is a one trick pony with no ambition.
>he can create multiple clones who teleported behind you and in front of you.
Clones teleporing are the bullshit part. Nothing suggested he could do that.

>>281599854
But not a shield. In fact, the primary purpose of a shield is not being cut.

>>281600533
>a young man improves his skillset in 2 years
incredible

>>281612394
There is no setup for it. They could have added just a small line, in passing, hinting at that.

>>281612416
You have plenty of set-up. The set-up being the constant hammering in of how fast humans develop.

>>281611473
>Land gets hard chocking girls
Yuberu will be delighted.

>>281612416
You crack me up.

>>281599472
Everybody but Übel looking bored as fuck.

>>281599813
It's obviously Land saying that from beyond the window but trannylator thought it was the shadow warrior. The state of the industry...

>>281599994
Steel isn't smelted in medieval times. Shields are usually made of wood with some metal rims or reinforcement; a shield entirely made of steel would be far too heavy to wield. And wood can be cut. So it's just the author scaling her power to whatever he likes at the moment.

Land is probably using that speed spell that Laufen used before.

What? The context is her figuring out his abilities, it wouldn't make sense for him to say that.

>>281611666
The Shadow Warriors wear equipment that makes them resistant to Zoltraak. It was mentioned earlier with the nun and also in this chapter.

>>281611969
The scene takes place over a split second or two. She's rebounding off the pillar, not clinging to it.

>>281612257
Sure, but Ubel's spell doesn't "break", it cuts.

>WHY WONT THEY JUST ZOLTRAAK
>explained in the chapter
>WHY CAN UBEL AND LAND KEEP UP WITH THE WARRIORS
>explained in the chapter
>WHY CAN UBEL CUT STONE BUT NOT SHIELD
>explained in the chapter
the wannabe critics jobbing to a story for small children is amusing

>>281612806
A story about death and genocide is not for small children

>>281612684
And real medieval times didn't have shaved ice and hamburgers and people with superhuman strength. The presence of magic and superhumans changes a lot of things.

But disregarding that, the important thing is that Ubel can only see a shield as an obstacle. Just liek she can't see it as part of someone's body, she can't see it as something she can cut either.

>>281612758
>earlier
6 months ago*

>>281612758
bullshit, post the source as proof

>>281612806
>>281612842
read previous chapters about how zoltraks breaks everything except shield magic. resistance armor like what Lore wore shouldn't stop zoltrak from breaking a shield. duh?
>you are a child!
schoolyard insults, instead of learning to read and having using critical thinking and logic, just makes you look like a moron who might also be an autistical child. also very low quality samefagging

>>281612321
>nothing suggested teleporting lands.
he literally did in this chapter. are you a bot account who didn't read?

>>281612800
like i said, any normal shield or even magic shield get be zoltrakked to death. unless for some reason the empire got a whole palace full of decorative shields enchanted with anti-zoltrak maho.

>>281612842
Its about death, but not about genocide. Beside, writers totally could make children stories about this kind of stuff.

>>281612806
>jobbing
that's not what jobbing means. is your AI bot broken again? or your ESL dictionary really that bad?

What drives a man to get angry at frieren "laundry magic is on the same tier as curse counter"'s magic rules?

>>281612842
One Piece, Dragon Ball, Naruto, Bleach, Avatar: The Last Airbender, Star Wars: The Clone Wars...

>>281612961
>read previous chapters about how zoltraks breaks everything except shield magic.
How it DID break everything. It's mentioned back in the Qual chapter they developed equipment to handle it. Also
>no u
Lmao

>>281601528
kys homosexual pedophile

>>281613407
>It's mentioned back in the Qual chapter they developed equipment to handle it. Also

no they developed a shield spell that is so good it sucks up a ton of prana and blocks all weapons. learn to read. and fuck off. you fucking retards keep making shit up.

>>281612983
And as Frieren stated to Qual, it's now pretty standard for equipment (including shields presumably) to be resistant to Zoltraak.

>>281613466
no the shield spell blocks it. you presumed out of nowhere. stop samefagging.

>>281613197
no one got angry at it. who are you trying to troll with this?

>>281612947
Chapter 137, page 14. Also here >>281599676

>>281613465
>>281613497
In that same conversation with Qual, Frieren also states that the magic resistance of equipment has also greatly improved to protect against Zoltraak.

>>281612443
By that logic any human can pull up some god-slayer jutsu out of nowhere because they develop fast.

>>281612416
Land's fighting abilities have been a mystery until now. We knew he had them, but we never saw him use them (it's hard to call what he did in the 1st exam a "fight"), so when he did use them of course they'd be a bit of a surprise, just like him using clones was a surprise.

>>281614455
He could have used it in the mirror match dungeon, not to mention his mirror could have used it. It’s an asspull unless it’s revealed later that he decided to train this technique after the exam — it would still be an asspull but it wouldn’t be as ridiculous.

Why doesn't Land here just make lots of clones and overwhelm her with numbers

>>281614555
>He could have used it in the mirror match dungeon, not to mention his mirror could have used it.

Maybe they could have, but he ended up having no need to fight (he was clearly prepared to fire a spell when he saved Ubel, since he had his staff out), while we didn't see his doppelganger fight at all. As they say, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

>>281614558
He's stated they take time and effort/concentration to make, and we've never seen him have more than two active at a time so that may be another limitation.

>>281612961
>he literally did in this chapter.
It'a a shitty explanation. He said it's mroe like clones. Therefore they should move like him. But now apprently sicne they're mana he can just zip them around at will.

>>281599327 (OP)
>legs: the chapter
season 3 can't come soon enough

>>281614819
It’s worse than that. It should mean he’s able to teleport and fly them around, phase them through walls, control their mass and volume, etc. If they are actually unbounded from his body then they should actually be unbounded, only limited by mana and mental considerations. It’s absurd that all those limitations amount to “normal Land tulpa moving with extra speed”. It’s really just an asspull, there’s no saving it.

>>281615685
This which cannot be imagined, cannot be.

I can imagine Ubel gagging on my cock.

>>281616207
You can't. Magic can't do anything unless you can imagine it precisely. The complex interaction between 2d and 3d would be your undoing.

AND people are just giving Ubel a pass in this fight, and there's literally no reason to. She's not an elite assassin from hell who should normally be able to doge high speed backstabs and Spider-Man movement. Yet she's handily keeping up with said elite anti-mage operators, and there's no actual excuse for that, she should have been dead on the ground on the opening move.

>>281602409
>Please live Übel
I hope any of the girls won't die, Land clone can die off if needed.

>>281616286
this is why AI exists

>>281616452
I firmly stand on the "no one dies this arc" position. Each of the three factions is humanized and shown to work for greater good however they understand it. The end goal is peace, not massacre.

>>281617149
you're expecting a sudden demon invasion and everyone will unite together to stop it?

>>281616373
You are overstating things. She would have been dead already without Land, and is currently on the defensive. Also her opponent is not using "Spiderman" abilities. She jumped and rebounded off a column, she didn't cling to it.

>>281617181
Nah. That would undermine the point. Serie selected the mages that don't think like her to figure out a crafty solution. I expect something more like the old Shadow Warrior two-parter where everyone just figures out they don't want to kill each other.

It'll end when everyone figures out Serie is the one who put a hit on herself

>>281617483
devilish

Warriors are pretty uppity till we get to Epic level DnD shit.

Nice Mountain cutting slash enjoy my small army of world killing demons.

Isn't four eyes moving too well.

>>281613734
Bodied that freak

>>281618326
Come again?

>>281599972
I have no hate for this manga, I see that it is very popular, BUT I thought it was a manga about the conflicts of a immortal female in a world of mortals, I wasn´t expecting a so much battle lore

>>281618716
It's not about one thing anon, there are a lot of characters aside from Frieren herself. Also this is one such conflict in a way, as the antagonists want to kill a elf much older than Frieren.

>>281618716
A lot of fans are in the same boat. Some of the fights are nice and the anime took those to the next level, but the focus should still be on the characters and primarily Frieren and her jouney (physical and methaphorical one) .

>>281612555
That's the entire series

>>281616452
>>281617149
The Shadow Warriors are fighting to kill and Ubel only just barely eliminated going for a suicide rush on Routine, unless the Magic Special Forces start to dogpile on this fight or either side gets reinforcements I don't see it ending without casualties.

Hot

>>281619113
Meguro...

>>281606715
I wouldn't be bothered by it if the author wasn't so insistent on making everyone stoic and unemotional all the time, save for exceptions like Ubel. Fights are missing emotions like fear, pride, confusion, stress, etc. Yes yes I get the whole "mages have to be emotionally stable" excuse to make every other character's personality the same but if we got characters actually consistently reacting to their situations visually instead of just internal monologuing I'd feel like there's more stakes. I could get invested in a fight where Fern is showing fear when she's fighting a demon, but it doesn't really happen. Applies to pretty much every fight in the series, with only a few exceptions.

>>281599830
>this is what Übel keeps hoping that he'll do with her teasing.
It seems I owe her an apology, I wasn't familiar with her game.

How the fuck is Land supposed to ever lose a fight? He can shit infinite clones from a billion miles away.

>>281619429
serie can teleport behind his real body and instagib him at any moment

>>281619378
She was hiding behind a tree when she fought the fog demon. She was clearly afraid even if her face was not reflecting that.

>>281617483
kek I can see it, that old hag

>>281619522
You see but that's my point. I get that she can be implied to be afraid and there's times where it happens, they act cautious and such, but everyone just having a blank face during life and death struggles really takes me out of it

>>281599450
Oh no! If there's one thing Serie doesn't want, it's strong opponents!

>>281615726
I don't get this whole imagination thing because I can perfectly imagine plenty of things, like a shield being cut in half, or someone phasing through a wall

Unrelated, but the mangaka cannot make me like or even care about this edgy fuck.

>>281619378
>Fights are missing emotions like fear, pride, confusion, stress,
They are not, you are just ignoring them

>>281619073
>Land and Übel win
>Land talks Übel out of killing helpless opponents because it doesn't sit right with him or something with her teasing him.about it not suiting his cold demeanor or something but agreeing
It's that simple. It's a fourth fight this arc, all previous one ended casuality-free. The fight with a Shadow Warrior immediately preceeding this one also ended without deaths. In fact, no named human has been killed outside flashbacks from the start of the series; and the few unnamed ones were killed by demons.

>>281619573
She's going to get gutted by Lowe, she knows it. Look at the fear in her eye, the caution of her words, the submissive bowed head, the concerned look from Sense who knows what's up.
She's about to get outed as a fraud in front of the whole world

>>281619938
i dont think she's interested in him at all

>>281619667
That's right

>>281618441
If you insist.

>>281619938
do you just say stuff to fish for reactions?

Sex with this woman

>>281620887
As a mattr of fact, yes, I do.

>>281619566
I agree with that. It works for Frieren but doesn't make a lot of sense for the others.

>>281621318
t. Serie to Land

>>281622524
serie is basically practicing eugenics, she's trying to get powerful human mages to hook up and produce offspring

>half the arc is just Ubel destroying things and flirting with Land in various settings and new outfits
Based writer

>>281618716
I think people need to accept that the first 4 episodes/9 chapters were essentially a prologue and the rest of the series is simply not like that. With introduction of Stark it moved much closer to a more standard battle shonen and firmly established its place as one right after in the Aura arc.

>>281624358
But people are not refering to the 4 episodes. The part after the aura arc had some of the best moments and they were all SoL.

>>281624662
And SoL never disappeared completely. But ever since then, it has been in-between larger fightfag arcs.

>>281624709
Sure, but it's matter of proportion
we went from something like 60-40 to 20-80

>>281624662
I can only think of one episode that was as good as the first arc so I don’t know what you’re referring to

so when are the anti magic crystals kicking in
surely if the shadow warriors can kill mages they should have some lying around
could serie even counter these

>>281626981
might be a red herring. might not come into play for a long time, long after we've forgotten about them.

>>281626981
Yamada forgot

>>281627524
its been awhile...

>August 4, 2021

>>281626981
Why are you expecting something that appeared once 85 chapters ago to suddenly become integral to the current plot?

>>281627901
Chekov's crystals. Why introduce something that absurdly powerful and then it's never used?

>>281627524
>>281627688
I admit I forgot too

>>281627901
well i think the empire golems will appear at some point too

>>281626981
They're supposed to be super rare. They can also be filled with mana and become blindingly bright, so there's that. Maybe they stop nullifying magic if filled with enough mana.

>>281628560
Why introduce a mighty and legendary elven hero of old and not have him fight anything?

>>281629863
I actually don't expect to see Kraft ever again in Frieren.

>>281611537
>being retarded makes you stronger
>people aren't all raised to be retarded
Japanese worldbuilding. Just take the last game you played, subvert an expectation, and change absolutely nothing else.

>>281618716
There are nods to these themes, like the king going "the empire has existed for too long, yet it will fall yadda yadda" last chapter, not that it's much.

>>281629863
It would be cool if Kraft was brought in by the Shadow Warriors as a trump card. Maybe he’s fucking done with this magic shit and wants the world to get back to the proper shape of loving the Goddess. In ancient times magic was seen as a strictly demonic thing, and with the way current mages operate how exactly are they different from demons? Maybe Kraft and the SWs think humanity is turning into demons through constant magic abuse and it’s up to them to fix it.

>>281613734
OH my god does anyone have an emotion beyond dull bemusement!

>>281611794
after just 5 glasses too.

>>281619667
You at least understood that he had crippling survivor's guilt and was trying to die fighting Revolte, right? Doesn't mean you have to give two shits about him though.

>>281611166
> I doubt she would have said no to a relationship, with a little convincing. A marriage will pass her in the blink of an eye so why wouldn't she humor her friend?
I dunno man. Being in love with Frieren and having sex with her while she has a dead fish expression would be pretty bleak. Hope you know a spell to increase elf libido.

>>281623319
Should try making half-elves or something.

Kinda hard to get invested in any of the fighting when all the characters involved are either deadpan or have the exact same mildly bored smug look on their faces the whole time. I know they're pro's but every single internal thought here just reads like someone's calmly and practically analysing the fight from an outside perspective of it, not actively risking their lives.

>>281633873
I think it's going for a slow burn read

>>281633761
She's had thousands of years to experiment, you think that hasn't crossed her mind? Elves in this universe are probably just unable to sire offspring with humans. That leaves only top level human mages as her closest confidant; even if their lives are but a mere fraction of hers.

>>281634059
I wonder how good her footjobs are.

>>281634808
Technically proficient but unenthusiastic.

I finally binged the series and reached the latest chapter
Does the author/artist have some kind of health issue causing all the breaks and hiatuses? I just recently caught up to World Trigger too and that one also has the guy on occasional breaks because of neck problems

>>281635886
Yeah she'd do it right but without passion.
100% by the books then note it was nothing special.

>>281633761
Not any reason to, she likes how fast humans progress and how quick the turnover is from her perspective.
A new fresh genius with new innovation at the blink of an eye

>>281599327 (OP)
>gray vs colour vs one single colour
arte

>>281626981
Diagoldze is a curse, not magic :^)

>>281626981
They can't be mined or processed, speedreader-kun

>>281637201
They didn't have any break or hiatuses until the anime project started, so most likely it's because the author is closely involved in the anime.
There has been no mention of heath issue, which they usually write if there is, but not always.
So in short we don't know.
In addition the artist is a relatively young woman who can have babies at any time.

>>281637201
I think it's just confusion about what direction to take it. Started out like more of a sol manga but now it's turned into a battle shonen the whole story and narrative is changing

>>281599813
>>281599830
I want more of this.

>>281638236
forgor pic

>>281638250
How did he get in front of her from the window behind her

>>281637786
there are no curses, it's just little magics we don't understand yet.

>>281638236
We know Iris.

>>281638277
The glass broke from the aftershock stemming from Land's ligtning fast movement and sudden stop. He's probably just accelerating his body the same way that he's launching Iris' needles.

>>281638250
It's funny how she says that she is immune to pain compliance techniques, as if electrical shock disables people through pain.
>dude, just tell your nervous system to be impervious to being electrocuted
Just fucking die already, I don't care about the shadow warriors in the slightest.

>>281638522
The author is just a fan of HxH.

why does everyone look so sleepy in this? even in the midst of fighting they all just look like they are about to fall asleep

>>281638821
Unironically, he probably is. He uses the Continental Magic Association in the same way Togashi uses the Hunter Association

>>281638953
life just ain't as fun anymore after the demon king's death

>>281609811
Demons realized the most evil creature on Earth is the average woman.

>>281609811
I wonder if the auhor will ever realease age list of the characters or will it be like Bleach with just the humans having known ages (and even then we don't know them for most of the exam mages). I mean, for demons we know that
>Aura is 500+ which is apparently fairly old for a demon
>Macht was already a powerful demon with fully developed Diagolze 600 years ago
>Solitär is about as strong as him which should roughly correspond to age
>bur Rivale is supposedly much older referring to her and Grausam as youngsters
>and then there's Qual whose title specifically contain the *Elder Sage* whereas Aura, macht and co. are *Sages*
>Demon King was already the world'smost powerful being 1000 years ago

>>281640272
>Demon King was already the world'smost powerful being 1000 years ago
Serie has been the world's most powerful being since before demons had even evolved yet

>>281640293
Shut the fuck up, Lernen.

>>281640293
>Serie is [headcanon]
Every time

>>281640337
It will never not be funny how offended Serie was when Lernen saw though Frieren and assumed her mana was on par with that of Serie.

>>281641052
Lernen was honestly a retard not to consider the possibility Serie's holding back despite the "mana rises with age" being a general rule and Serie even essentially giving him a hint with a mention of how relatively unskilled Frieren is for someone of her age. He should have notied it just doesn't add up.

>>281641052
>>281642328
It doesn't matter, the entire thing is just to elevate Fern (and by extension Frieren)
None of the apprentices that Serie trained could see her fluctuations but Frieren first apprentice, who she trains with the more unserious philosophy of 'just enjoy magic and have fun' could

>>281642536
We know that, we're just making fun of Lernen for being a retard.

>>281638953
Limitation of the mangaka who doesn’t appear to handle emotions well so can only depict the most obvious ones. Ie, “this character just received a serious injury from an unexpected attack, she should look….surprised, right…?” “This character is focused on fighting…focused…like when you take a test…”

i'm only here for my love of aura
she may be eternally incapable of empathy and love but that's okay because i have enough of that for the both of us

I want to sex sense

I want ubel to fuck me to death

>>281599388
Telling Ubel to kill someone is better than letting her decide to do it on her own.
At least one way you'll know what direction she's going in.

>>281599450
Stark is such a weak fag.

>>281599766
She can visualize quarrying stone from her childhood, but she's never seen someone shred metal before.

>>281645276
rent free

>>281599327 (OP)
ACTION?
PLOT?
VIOLENCE?

>>281599972
Thank you for posting.

>>281640337
lold, nice one

>>281642536
He took Serie at her word that it was a mostly useless skill.

>>281647419
She never said it was an useless skill. She said it was impractical for humans because for the average person it takes over a century to master, time you could have used to learn actual skills you can use. It's only useful if you have the natural aptitude for it (like Fern) or have unlimited time (like Serie) so its just another tool in your toolbox.

>>281599365
she is again eating the cake and not willing to dance with Sein

>>281648084
She finished eating the cake, we got an entire panel

>>281648084
>>281648209
Can she give Sein a dance already?

>>281642536
I don’t think that it’s correct to call Frieren’s teaching and philosophy unserious. Both Serie and Frieren are serious about what they teach.

>>281638522
The only cool shadow warrior was the old man before this arc. Shouldn't have recycled the concept with a bunch of lame characters no one cares about

>>281648269
He doesn't like granny-coded women.

>>281648386
She's more of teenager than a granny

>>281648382
I think there's just way too many of them, esepcially that this arc also introduces the magic gestapo and has the record number of recurring characters. It's hard to get people to care with so little time given to them. I like the dorf though. Dorf never fail in this series.

>>281599327 (OP)
Every male character really does look like an effeminate faggot, huh?

>>281648686
No

>>281648386
he does though

>>281637201
She is taking care of her ill mom.

>>281631700
>send Kraft against SW
We wanna see action, Anon. Not clubbing baby seals.

>>281638019
>btw the artist is fertile xd
What causes someone to blurt this out?

>>281649433
I think he suggests that the artist might have little kids.

>>281617483
KINO