Thread 281604959

This movie is literally just Evangelion episode 6 stretched out to 2 hours
It even has the same music used multiple times

>>281604959 (OP)
Bruh, Godzilla is the Japanese original "token villain" that causes everyone to team up.

>>281604959 (OP)
It's interesting how underwhelming it is in live action.
Instead of batteries of missile launchers and misato in the control room letting her weapons be literally vaporized you have some ugly bad actors on cheap chairs and half a dozen tanks shooting to no effect and giving up.

>>281606187
the movie is good you are just dumb

>>281607453
It is good, and underwhelming.

>>281607554
this movie has the best visual direction of any Godzilla movie
he has never been more imposing looking than in this movie

>>281607618
Now you're baiting

>>281608867
shut up retard
grow eyeballs

>>281604959 (OP)
That was far better than minus one

>>281609038
anno's visual directing and sagisu's music carry everything

>>281604959 (OP)
it's great isn't it

>>281609038
I think they're both good with different narratives. Minus one is focused on the main character and his personal and mental issues. Shin has a much wider scope and is focused more on godzilla himself and the government response. I can appreciate both.

Should I buy blurays of godzilla movies

>>281604959 (OP)
you now realize eva's "plot" is just fighting giant monster every week

>>281604959 (OP)
Anno is… le hack?
>>281609038
>>281609226
I did not care for minus one.

>>281604959 (OP)
Minus One was better

>>281604959 (OP)
More like episode 6 borrow heavily from classic kaiju shit. Retard.

Dangerously close to /tv/ thread.
Shin and Minus One is good and it gives me hope for future Godzilla movies.

>>281609038
I like it better too. The procedural nature of this is better than one's human angle.
I want to see the monster, i want to see people solving the monster, i don't care about "muh kamikaze honor" and shit

>>281609463
>minus one sucks
>>281609465
>minus one good
who do I believe

>>281609038
I liked Shin but I enjoyed Minus more, despite the hamfisted ending. It was lame but it didn't ruin the whole movie for me.

minus one was great in some scenes and pretty retarded in others. final ship fight was super meh, but gojira looked amazing. also the fact that the chick got blasted but ultimately survived was a fucking copout and you know it
shin is pretty nice, but the opening scenes and googly eyes had me wondering if this was a parody or some shit. nuke laser breath was 11/9 kino
1998 hollywood godzilla was okay

>>281609535
shin just looks and sounds so much more interesting, I don't understand how people get bored by the "talking" in shin when every shot is so creatively framed, and godzilla himself feels fucking massive and unsettling with the way he moves and acts
complaining about the talking is also completely missing the point of the movie, I bet they're the same people who bitch about shinji not getting in duh robot

>>281609537
>googly eyes
has no one ever seen a deep sea creature
that's literally what they look like
shin being all fucked up looking is the best thing about him

>>281609569
yeah but listen
i don't care, it's fiction.
if i wanted realism i'd go visit seaworld
this is like someone making a movie about ww1 and it's 2 hours of dudes sitting in a trench and suffering from trench foot and eating moldy bread, then i say well that's boring, and you say well that's what it looked like

Anno is such a massive hack. His last original work was 21 years ago and since then he's been only milking Eva and making deconstructionslop for other franchises.

>>281609607
I don't know why you're complaining about the most creative and arguably iconic redesign Godzilla has ever gotten

shin lazer beam scene > any nu western gojira movie

>>281609647
but how does it compare to the minus one nuke breath

>>281609556
That's always the struggle with godzilla media. How they handle the humans characters. Minus and Shin had different approaches and there isn't a correct way, it's just a matter of personal preference and execution. Sometimes even if it's a big point in the movie, something like parodying government incompetence isn't gonna resonate with an audience as much with showcasing one man's personal issues.

>>281609537
Shin Godzilla was a real movie. Minus one was a mix between cape shit and melodrama.

>>281609226
>>281609525
I know because I am Japanese, but there are many films like Minus One in Japan.
I feel those stories are lies to help Japanese people forget the guilt of surviving after the war.
It is probably true that Kamikaze pilots did not really want to die. But they had the strength to overcome their fear of death, which is why they are great.
The reason why the Kamikaze pilots are not portrayed as heroic but as pathetic victims is because the post-war Japanese cannot accept that they betrayed them and surrendered.
The hallmark of Japanese pacifism is the denial of heroism. The pre-war Japanese were not pacifists, so the post-war Japanese are unwilling survivors. People who failed to be heroes deny the existence of heroes because they are self-loathing because of their own weakness.

>>281609644
but i'm not

Movie was good up until the back lasers. Mini zillas just solidified it as peak retardation, hated Minus 1's rubber nen ending too.

>>281609661
the brilliance of shin is that literally every moment of the movie is centered around godzilla and the impact he's having on humanity
in minus one he's essentially just a prop, however effective and well utilized he is with the actually competent human drama, but he completely dictates every second of the two hours of shin's runtime, which when you think about it is both incredibly interesting as a movie and also genuinely impressive from a writing standpoint

it along with the way he's depicted really make him feel like an overwhelming force of nature that humanity just cannot deal with, and that's what makes godzilla compelling

minus one has the amazing scale of his literal nuclear blasts but that's undermined when you conveniently have both main characters having dramatic moments right there with godzilla, whereas in shin he just torches all of fucking tokyo and the entire government in seconds with no copouts

Wild Arms 2 monologues be like >>281609705

>>281609769
filtered

>>281604959 (OP)
ZOMG DISCUSSING NON-ANIMATED MOVIES ON THA ANIMEY BOARD I AM SO FUCKING RETARDED ALSO TRANS
ITS LIKE IM IN THE UNFUNNY SNEED CAPESHIT BOARD

>>281609660
Still better than minus one.
The minus one is visually impressive but shin lazer has better nuance.

>>281609607
You're not wrong but I pity you.

>>281610027
thanks anon, however i don't think about you at all

>>281609705
The way you worded this post makes it sound like you are disappointed Japan surrendered. There's nothing that Japan could have gained from fighting at that point in the war. It would have been a year or two of a total blockade of the country while Japanese people starved and suffered non-stop bombing. Then they would have been invaded and slowly defeated and occupied. Every city would be rubble. Millions would die for nothing. Japan would still be occupied. There would be no one left to talk about heroism. Japan would still be recovering from the war instead of being the culturally and economically strong country it is.

That's an interesting opinion.

>>281609705
まじで
あなたは本当に日本人ですか？

>>281609537
>the chick got blasted but ultimately survived
You weren't paying attention

>>281610484
oh? do tell

>>281604959 (OP)
Nobody ever claimed Ano was a creative genius. He hasn't had an original idea in decades. A 1 trick donkey

>>281610287
Yes you have to give in the zogmerica and its gay nigger lackeys well said slave

>>281610549
Saving your culture by destroying it is a little counterproductive.

>>281610570
Better than becoming a slave to Zogmerica and its gay nigger world order

>>281604959 (OP)
woulda been better with shindens

>>281609705
I mean it's a bit like americans and vietnam vets where they shunned them for being baby killers to cope with the fact that those dudes were sent out to fight a pointless war and they blame the soldiers instead of the government. Hell I was even called a baby killer when i was in uniform at a mall back in 2017 by some old ladies who think that war is bad. Yeah I know it is, but what the fuck. You're probably the ones who voted for the people who kept the war going.
It's like Orwell wrote about the pacifists in Spain. Those who abjure violence may do so only because others commit violence on their behalf

>>281610595
If you had any conviction you'd follow through with that line of thinking.

>>281610678
The zogmerican world order is becoming weaker each day, I don't need to rope

>>281609524
Same. I'm so glad we're out of the era of only US Godzillas.

>>281609038
true
shin godzilla is a great filter

>>281604959 (OP)
>2 hours movie
>1.9 hours of talking (most of it is cringe romance between a jap and mutt)
>0.1 hours of action
and people thought it's a masterpiece just because "OMG ANNO-SAMA TOUCHED IT!!"

>>281610705
Honestly, I like both
>JP Godzilla is more like the Heisei serious movies
>US Godzilla are goofy high budget Showa movies

>>281610926
Based enjoyer.

>>281609556
>I don't understand how people get bored by the "talking" in shin
breh, reamly?
how is it hard to understand that normies, at least americans, just zone out during conversations? normies literally watch dub shit because they want to 'listen' to the media while they are working and doing other stuff; they don't want to pay attention to the sceeen (they waited for the dub of this movie btw) unless it is action/misery packed, showing those retarded one piece-like flashy "choreographies" or/and has fanservice. any actual serious topic must be met with jokes or else their irony infested normie brains will get tired out. all hollywood movies reflect this.
Shin Godzilla, on the other hand, requires them to pay attention to the consequences of Shin arrival and to the non-circus politics. this movie will absolute filter morons out

>>281609038
-1 is a much more pedestrian movie, but probably more efficient as mindless entertainment.

>>281610926
I can't find that picture of godzilla's laser beam coming out of his ass and into the MUTO's mouth

>>281609038
The only thing Minus One has over Shin is visuals. Shin is just overall a more interesting story and conflict.

>>281609661
>'s just a matter of personal preference and execution
For me Minus One is far too melodramatic and that's the part of the execution that rubbed me the wrong way. It was like watching a soap opera because just as soon as some semblance of happiness could form with the MC's new family some shit would happen almost immediately to trigger his PTSD.

>>281610926
>>US Godzilla are goofy high budget Showa movies
This is what I have to keep explaining to people who don't get Godzilla as a franchise. Because they will watch something like KOTM and think it is doing a bad job and I just treat it like I would Final Wars or 2000 and have a great time. Yeah, those aren't showa either but the franchise has been goofy for longer than most people watching them have been alive.

>>281609038
Apples and oranges. Both are great for different reasons

>>281609647
true

>>281612893
>The only thing Minus One has over Shin is visuals. Shin is just overall a more interesting story and conflict.
Strong disagree, I greatly preferred the MC's story in Minus One far more than the whole "red tape falling out of my pockets" stuff in Shin, though it's been a long while since I've seen Shin so I might need to give it a re-watch. Shin's story is very good though from what I remember of it.

>>281613209
Yeah, don't get me wrong I can recognize that Minus One and Shin are both good movies at the end of the day. I just really don't like -1's MC nor how the movie relies more on pathos to convey its themes. And I also really liked the greater focus on the Bureaucracy in Shin because it was snappier and honestly just more engaging. When -1 actually got around to planning how to deal with their own Godzilla I think that's when I sat back up in my chair. But Shin was like that from jump with all the cabinet meetings and backroom conferences.

The editing on Shin is top shelf overall. It never lets you rest but it doesn't feel tiring either. By comparison, Minus one is more lethargic and a lot of it felt like watching a daytime television drama. Not in a bad way, but just how it felt.

I'm gonna say it: I like the Heisei Goji movies better.

>>281604959 (OP)
and it's the best Godzilla flick with Minus One being a very close second.