Thread 281618070

Chapter 320: He's Still Alive

>>281618099
Why the fuck is all of this so wrong

So did Fei know that Nicolas was a fake this whole time and was just going along with him because why not?
It must have been so fucking weird interacting with someone larping as a guy you already met before and trying to pass as him lol

>>281618204
HAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh so this is how Sandro's going to fill up the next 100 issues? By giving us pages of backstory of characters we already know? Once a hack, always a hack.

>>281618196
No because we had that shadowly silhouette of Fei page of him theorizing who the worms on his team could be. Nothing about his thoughts imply that "Oh yeah I guess Nic is also a worm after I had lunch with him in Paris that one time"

>>281618196
No. And here you've pointed out yet another negative implication that has resulted from this revelation that real Nicolas was always alive. Another negative implication of course is that it undermines that rather striking backstory of fake Nicolas "killing the protagonist".
Sandwich, as always, is a hack. Sadly, as the obeisance from some anons in the previous thread demonstrated, some of his readers keep falling for it and want to believe the man is a genius who has always keikaku doori'd everything.

>>281618204
Kek.

>>281618204
>Sandwich still trying to make Xia Ji menacing even though he's done nothing but humiliate and belittle the character
Does he think we forgot just how much Xia Ji has been fucked over as a character?

Fin

>>281618261
>>281618338
Sandrobitch can't write for shit goddamnit. Getting to corner and torture one of his slurpers would be the only redeeming featuring of this shitpile.
>>281618368
And for fuck's sake someone please exterminate SoLtroons.

>>281618482
>Haruo will no longer be a joke character this time, I promise!
Sandro, not a single one of your readers believes you.

>>281618482
It's 300 chapters too late to make me believe in Haru actually changing.

>>281618450
>Lost text of Plato
>"A foreigner came at our Olympics"
>"No matter what, I could not out wrestlehim nor outdebate him"
>"Said he sprung from the 'cave' "

Who else encountered a Connector ?

>>281618450
>Ohma saved my life
Bitch where?

YOU HEARD HIM YA FAT FUCKS UP AND AT EM TEN KILOMETER RUN CONVERT EVERY SQUARE INCH OF FAT INTO MUSCLE

>>281618585
Probably that time he got shanked back in Asura.

>>281618264
>so long sucker
>the smile
What did he mean by this

>>281618204
My beloved Xia Ji

>>281618204
>>281618486
I couldn't protect that smile...

>>28161820
Since when did Xia Ji and Yan get along? I've always been under the impression that Yan has shunned Xia Ji for being a loser and would send him off to do shit jobs for the Worm.

>>281618679
>You are on 'bodyguard' duty while I talk to schizo frenchies
Or whatever.Then Edward pooped up to slap him around and rape him

>Nicolas elaborated on
>Haru training to be a War God again
Huh? What's happening? Sane plot progression? In my Kengan Omega?

>>281618591
I'm on my rest week before doing my yearly ORMs.

>>281618077
>Revisits the entire thing
>Doesn't reveal "why" he took on the name
I get that Terashi is saying it but come on.
>>281618204
>BUT HE'S ACTUALLY ALIVE
Oh fuck off.

Reminder what Sandrobitch just took from you.

>>281619065
>one of the indisputably kinoest moments of KvP
>uuuuh he never really died actually
why is he like this

>>281618070 (OP)
>>281618077
Does Sandro have such little faith in the IQ of his readers he feels the need to retell this backstory?
>He has a name panel every time any character shows up for the first time in a chapter
Okay fine.

>>281618833
>actually slurping this lazy shit
Goddamn you fucking faggot, were you hyped for the dreaded Lolong v Ohma countdown too?

>>281618264
Who's So Long and why is he a sucker?

where is this trash ass manga even headed to its been nothingburger after nothingburger for almost FOUR YEARS

>>281618833
>Sane plot progression
They just invalidated Jean's entire character and made him look retroactively stupid for not noticing that Nicolas isn't actually dead. What are you talking about?

>>281618264
>>281618601
He's happy to be leaving Omega

>>281618515
>seki's pro wrestling + Haru's natural godlike body
might be koga tier

>>281619370
kek

>sandrobitch completely forgot about Tereshi's entire gimmick
"i" didn't think the capacity for disappointment was still within "my possession" but "he" managed to "scale that wall"

>>281618204
>xia arc
>xia flashback shows that he's a loser and everyone thinks he's lame
>actually he used to casually hang out with his brother and some psycho

>>281618204
He didn't need to do this, the subversion of Jean taking someone's identity without being a worm was already good enough

>>281619115
>>He has a name panel every time any character shows up for the first time in a chapter
One of Sandro's rare good points. With a cast this large most of the characters are going to be forgettable due to appearing too rarely so without the name panels everywhere many of us would have trouble remembering who's who.
You know this is true - can you even remember the name of this manga's main character?

>>281618099
Why is Liu surprised? Isn't Falcon a hitman too?

>>281619354
>and made him look retroactively stupid
I mean, he was schizoing out, and they had to explain why Naidan was so worried about Nicolas somehow.

>>281618204
Naidan is such an idiot for getting one of his co-workers mixed up. All this does is show us that Naidan can't differentiate between Frogs and made an ominous warning about a guy who wasn't actually there

>>281619102
From Sandro's point of view, subverting is the only thing that matters

>>281618077
This page here already confuses the fuck about who Jean and Nicolas are.
>Nicolas killed everybody
>So everybody killed Nicolas
>Jean also killed Nicolas
>Jean is the only survivor
Who the fuck killed what everywho???
>Jean took Nicolas' name
Why???

Fuck Kengan Omega.

You've been wanting Haru to become strong again for years. Aren't you at least hyped to see that?

>>281619738
That is because you might be retarded.

>>281619785
I read that as the avatar of India and imagined him flinging feces at his opponent.

>>281619785
Not one bit.

>>281619785
Not really, if a main character like Ryuki can start off incredibly strong and end up getting the side character treatment then what hope do the actual side characters have of good character development

>>281618204
>he's alive and working with the worm
But of course

>>281618264
So why did Terashi wait this long to reveal all of this?
It's been years in-universe since his botched assasination and he didn't change his face. So was he really waiting for Nicolas to regain his memory doing nothing?

>>281620167
Sandro had not thought of this until now.

>>281620167
Liu probably spammed the Purg group chat telling them that Nicolas is back

>>281618287
There is just no end to how much Sandro can disappoint me. It's like trying to plug up one leak only causes the leaks in the other holes to get worse.

>>281619785
I'm only happy because I know all the of people who kept bitching about him not losing weight will get Julius'd. And it's going to be glorious.

>>281620167
You gotta think about how Terashi must have dropped his gig at Purgatory to go back to his day job as a Hitman and all his coworkers realizing they were working with a Professional Serial Killer the entire time
So not only were three of your guys part of an international terrorist organization and the other was part of an underground assassin clan BUT the guy in B-Leagues was ALSO an assassin the whole time hired to kill one of your friends who was larping as a guy he didn't even kill

kengan sneedmega

>>281619785
>Finally give people what they want
>Almost assured to job horrifically to the current threats
TEN YEARS
TEN YEARS TOO LATE

>>281618204
"Evil" is on the run aiiiieeeeee

>>281619785
Yeah, but in modern Omega it's a jobber flag the size of the Himalayas themselves

>>281619712
No, he's not. Falcon is a "Wrecker" in that he beats up people badly but never kills them. Legal loophole and shit

>>281618294
I genuinely want Liu to get his revenge

>>281618585
Sandro actually remembered something.
During the whole Guardian thing, Haruo was really injured by Ranjo and Ohma stopped him from finishing Haruo

>Naidan Mokhbat? That name does ring a bell, I think he was one of "our" guys
>but you're blaming the wrong guy here, I don't think he was working under me and Yan
>if I'm not mistaken, he was working under Luohan during that time

Naidan is definitely going to show up alive.

>>281621475
I wouldn't put it beneath Sandro. Le Magic Doctorman allows him to bend any rule involving recovery from injuries, even fatal ones.

>>281618204
Oh no!
The WORM!?!?
That... could be bad? I guess? Wait, who is "The Worm?" What makes them bad? Isn't 95% of Kengan, like, criminal murderous corporate sleazebag greedy hitmen killers participating in capitalist fraud and death?

This manga sucks.

>>281621583
sandro forgot, association is now a mockey mouse friends club

I miss the simpler times...

Fuark

>>281618204
"evil" is on the "move"

>>281619725
No, this actually makes perfect sense. THIS is why he said not to trust Nicholas. He knew he was a phony.

>>281621576
Hanafusa card for any almost dead character and Worm card for already dead character

Sandro needs a editor and I mean a western style one that makes sure you just get your characters basic backstories right and that you don't retardedly retcon it every 5 chapters.

>>281618568
>>281618569
he already reverted back to joke in the next page
>>281618515

>the 30 or so A listers got reduced to like 6
>No new A listers rose up in the timeskip after kvp
Lel, just dissolve that shit at this point

>>281622163
lol so basically the preceding "serious" page was just lazy filler to reach his weekly 16 page quota.

Did we get a Blue Ursus?
We got ISSK, but what about Blue Ursus?

>>281621871
i miss the 2019-2021 era of kengan shitposting..we MUST go back. modern day kengan is so depressing

>>281618482
Didnt he say this back in ashura?

>>281622074
Why not just say something that would suggest Nicolas isn't who he says he is rather than something vague. I refuse to believe Sandro was thinking in the long-term when he wrote this
It only seems like it makes sense till you consider the implications

>>281622656
Third times the charm

>>281622580
I don't think a single person here reads Blue Ursus, it doesn't get threads and it's rarely mentioned in the Kengan or SiR threads
Plus the girls aren't cute enough for people to put up with Sandro's writing, the main character looks off. Not even the Gorilla Sena Sister looks like that off and she has a decent amount of fans

>>281618204
Why would the worm want to work with this guy? He was never implied to be particularly stronge, he joined the special forces to murder civilians like a coward. He clearly can’t follow orders or perform a mission without giving in to his murderous urges. Does the worm just want curazee people?

>>281618070 (OP)
how is this dogshit still in print?

>>281623521
SEAmonkeys... are strong.

What a nothing burger chapter.

>>281619738
God she is hot.
Probably the hottest woman this manga has to offer.
I miss the CEO's. Their shenanigans were funny.

>>281624004
t.

>>281623477
Cults thrive on taking advantage of the less mentally fortitude and the Worm is massive, even after turning into a skeleton crew it's still apparently massive enough to house a giant super computer in Hong Kong.
What's the issue with recruiting a couple of mentally deranged lunatics who want to kill people, that's already what these guys are looking for. They don't need to be exceptionally top tier. More bodies for the Worm, we already know from one of the Worms that they consider themselves replaceable.
The issue here though is Nicolas hanging out with Yan and Xia. There's no way he's that good to be hanging out with the Head of the Worm and his brother
My best guess is that Nicolas was told to kill the Special Ops group him and Jean were a part of as a Worm because the Ops were considered a threat to the Worm somehow

>>281619785
I miss old "bad" Kengan Art, it had soul

>>281619785
Won't happen and even if it did it doesn't matter because we already have a big muscle guy (Julius) and even a vaguely tribal big muscle guy (Toa? I forgot his name)

If the chapter was so hype...why is the thread dead???

I’ve been thinking.
Was Naidan cloned off this guy?

Koji soon.

>>281624670
It's just how mongolians are

>>281618515
Now all that's left is to catch up on what Akoya's doing.

>>281624670
No, that's just his teacher.

>Naidan is still talked about to this day, even though he only had one fight and died in it in 2020.
>Edward Wu is still seen as the epitome of villain aura in the series
Sandro really is completely blind as to why certain characters are popular.

>>281626238
Naidan only gets so much discussion because nothing he said has made sense for 200+ chapters. Only now hundreds of chapters later does his last line make any semblance of sense. Him needing to suicide for his mission against Ryuki is still dumb and weird with everything we know.

>>281626486
>Him needing to suicide for his mission against Ryuki is still dumb and weird with everything we know.

Luohan told him to do it. Told'em Naidan needed to get Ryuki to kill him so Ryuki could his murder boner mojo back in order to prep for his eventually huishenging

>>281626238
Agree with Naidan, but Edward was a fucking retard. He died in a really, really stupid way especially as someone who's supposed to be the leader of a Kure faction.

>>281618204
Nicolas was always a wholesome chungus, it was that bastard Luohan who made him kill all those people. Same thing with Xia, that piece of shit Luohan corrupted him. Naidan too, he only died because Luohan told him to

>>281618421
there's no way that truck's suspension wouldn't be hanging down at least a little bit with all that weight on the bed. Fucking AI generated shit.

>>281618450
>>281618482
>return of /fit/ Haru
Alright, I'll admit, that wasn't on my bingo card.

>>281618294
Lads, how would you feel if Nicholas (or Liu) somehow ends up winning the Battle Royale like Android 17 did. Imagine Ohma eliminating himself and the Connector from the dead zone.

Kino... or sandrohackery?

Are we at the tournament yet?

>>281627811
>the """good"""" guys not winning
Not happening, for all the subversions, that's been consistent.

>>281618515
>fat is strong

>>281628619
It would be really funny if Sandro's solution for a character moment for Akoya was that he just tricked out his super suit more

>>281619654
>can you even remember the name of this manga's main character?
That's an easy one, Cohma

Luckily for "me" I have Panty & Stocking to look forward to on "my" Wednesdays instead of just Sandroslop.
>See Guy Jin in episode 3 doing all that silly karate schtick
>Imagine in my head Waka or some other jobber loudly exclaiming about how he's "on the level of Kuroki"
Brings me joy to shove Kengan into where it doesn't belong.

>>281628915
>Guy Jin vs. Kuroki
"I" am so "broken".

Didn't have it on me when I was posting that but now I do. Look at this MONSTER, maybe he could "scale the wall" and even take on "him?"

Did sandwich finally remember Haru is supposed to be the strongest character in his series or I'm setting myself for disappointment again?

>>281629249
>or I'm setting myself for disappointment again?
Considering your first impression is already wrong, then yes.

>>281619065
I completely forgot that happened, I don't actually remember much of that fight in general thinking about it.

I miss Akoya.

>>281629249
Everyone is the strongest, not a single dud

>>281626871
To be fair, I think it’s fair to say Eddie had villain aura right up UNTIL he started walking away from Alan’s death.

Hassad soon.

>>281629718
Wrong, my guy took on the Kure clan solo until he suddenly gets poisoned and had his ultimate attack shrugged off. People were calling him a raid boss for good reason and then it ended with a wet fart.
Also Raian getting lost on the corridor for months on end was funny.

>>281629776
Alright sure, he still had aura but he was LOSING it rapidly as the fight went on from just leaving Raian crumpled on the floor for literally no reason to barely flinching at a flying head to HOKUTO KEN NO REFERENCE EIGHTFOLD DEMOLITION FIST

>>281629249
>Did sandwich finally remember Haru is supposed to be the strongest character in his series
Pretty sure the strongest should be the guy with Wu genes and Superman Syndrome but we all know what Sandro's views on talent is.

Everyone stop with this 'strongest' shit anyone can defeat anyone. Someone with a lucky shot can kill ohma

>>281627424
As if

>>281630366
Reminder that Demon's Bane exists and it's effectively a pure reflect move. Ohma shouldn't realistically lose to anyone.

>>281630409
The author said he could die to a luck chance with a bat, also heart illness. He has been thoroughly benched.

>haru's leg will finally be fixed
>waka's ankle won't be

>>281618204
I'm more curious about the history of this photograph, did some random civilian just see these three walking down the street years ago and feel a compulsion to snap a picture, thinking 'evil is on the move, this will definitely be useful when a tall hitman comes asking years later'. How did he even manage to track down this picture.
>>281621475
Naidan is going to show up apparently having been chilling and waiting for Liu at a place called the 'Blue Sky' all this time for the past few years, wondering what was taking him so long.

>>281618204
I had negative expectations and I'm still disappointed.

>>281630409
In theory, grappling should be a great counter to a move like demonsbane. In practice, I can't remember the last time grappling was actually effective in Omega, was it the Masaki fight?

>>281630993
Grappling is always effective dude, they just have to land one good throw and it's over. Whenever they lose it's by a razor thin margin...

>>281618515
Sandro just created two good protagonists.

>>281631792
Let's see how he ruins them both. I'm guessing Liu learns the Niko style and Haruo stays fat but gets way stronger or some shit.

>>281618070 (OP)
fuck you you fuck. FUCK. I genuinely managed to forget this manga.
Why'd you make a thread? Huh?

>>281631792
>>281632068
I'm already anticipating a rematch between Haruo and Himuro.

>>281629249
I've always seen Haru as having the highest stats an all-rounder could have. No he isn't physically as strong as Julius or as fast as Rei but he would have been faster, stronger, and higher stamina than fighters who have a relatively equal glut of strength and speed like Ohma, Raian, Kanoh, Lolong, Fei, etc. Basically he would have been the perfect canvas to paint an op fighting style on but instead he lost all his athleticism and speed, got a bad knee, and learned worthless pro wrestling. Haru is a tragedy.

>>281632154
>I'll become the "Icy Emperor" again, for the sake of my friends!
>Let's go home to our motherly Inside.

>>281632581
>and learned worthless pro wrestling
Seki has shown that it isn't useless and that having high athleticism and physicality is a great boon to the capability of the style. With Haruo's swiftness and strength combined he'd probably be a more aggressive Seki who can fling himself all over the place with extra grace and force. We saw him do and extremely balanced backflip against Akoya and that was before he'd trained at all and was a fat fuck.
I'm not saying he'd be anything approaching the strongest, but pro wrestling, or any suitably trained style, would still be a great boon to an in-shape Haruo.

>>281630993
You fool! You activated Demon's Maw! Now Ohma is grappling YOU twice as hard as you were going to!

>>281632581
>Haru is a tragedy
I can’t believe Haru ended his life peacefully in the mountains…surrounded by 12 loving grandchildren…and revered by his village as a god of war…

>>281630993
>>281631401
If Kenganverse rules worked IRL, Dricus would’ve oneshot Khamzat while telling reporters how awesome he is. Instead, basically the opposite happened.

>>281618338
Too many anons talked about Naidan's warning, so of course Sandro picked it up instantly
this isn't actually true, since the chapter's been done for a couple of weeks anyways

Sandro has surpassed himself yet again. Anons used to complain about Omega retroactively ruining Ashura but now we have reached the point where later Omega is retroactively ruining earlier Omega.

>>281632845
Even though I know better than to have hope for Blue Ursus, I am kind of curious what Sandro’s idea of “progressive protagonist level pro wrestling” even looks like. What I mean is like how Ohma takes the Niko Style until he can use it to fix broken bones or copy going limp in the neck. Is the Blue Ursus protagonist eventually going to get to the point where she can piledrive someone as efficiently as a Literally Kuroki, or give herself new stats with kayfabe?

>>281633177
Technically we already scaled that “wall” the moment Gilbert showed up to “resurrect” Eddie and offscreened Howard in a battle that took the life of a 100% Guihun zoomer.

>>281633279
>took the life of a 100% Guihun zoomer
I completely forgot that William had an identical twin. I guess he had that thing with the muscles too

>>281631792
All the pieces exist for Sandro to create good protagonists and antagonists, he just doesn't.

Why doesn't Hanafusa just modify everyone?

>>281634049
Why does Haru, the largest Kenganvenger, simply not eat the the bad guys?

>>281633343
He probably survived because he was careful not to expose his own Superman Syndrome and 100% Guihun during the fight. I am being serious here without metanarrative malarky. Remember when Sandro payed lip service to actually human physiology, such that Guihun/Removal is supposed to be taxing as FUCK for the human body and risk having you burn out/fuck up your capacity for fine movement early in the fight? That combined with a shitload of muscles THEORETICALLY means fighters like that would gas out rapidly if fighting someone with a more normal body to fat ratio.

Theoretically, anyway. Instead in practice people can just treat Removal/Guihun as a Super Saiyan transformation, and unless pushing it to extremes like Fei or Lu Tian typically die due to external misfortune from the karma of raising jobber flags.

>>281634049
Would you really trust Hanafusa to put you under the knife and give you experimental superpowers? The man who implanted fucking pneumatic popout bone-swords in himself to get around a Kengan technicality and thinks nothing of sprinkling bioweapons inside his body? Terashi sit down, you’re not allowed to answer.

Why doesn't Lolong just fucking win his matches?

>>281634206
He does though. Here’s the thing: Every character in Kengan has a different JUST FUCKING WIN threshold. Lolong for example offscreened Liu, and oneshot Toa as far as we can tell. However he got low-diffed by Ohma and couldn’t clear Kuroki. Your overall power as a fighter is like super armor in post-Purgatory Omega, and Lolong presumably cleared hundreds of shitters using his anti-precognition elbows and Silat fundamentals until put up against seekers and actual magic.

Himuro greatly sacrifices his ability to JUST FUCKIN WIN against anyone stronger than Ryuki, in exchange for owning a different power that lets him powerscale himself to anyone. So that even when he loses, he at least manages to make them work for it.

>>281633176
Not saying Sandro had this all scribbled out just yesterday but Sandro absolutely is aware of when he fucks up, his ways of fixing those fuckups and the timing just varies.
Like when he killed off Eddie but realized Eddie was too much of a fan favorite to kill off so immediately he creates Gilbert as compensation and then barely touches him. Yeah Gilbert's 'around' but he only exists so Sandro can fix one his mistakes that he can't go back on
The "Don't trust Nicolas" is also another fuck up but it took years to properly iron out because Sandro probably didn't seen much wrong with it at first and the explanation was fine on paper. It wasn't top priority till 5 years later and people are still asking about what it meant. "Nicolas stole someones identity after killing them and is le crazy" works as an explanation to not trust him but since it's a Worm saying this and Jeans backstory has fuck all to do with the Worms there's little reason why Naidan would tell Liu this or even know this happened at all unless you'd say that the Worms were gonna replace Jean at some point and needed background info
Refitting the backstory that Nicolas survived and was involved with the Worm's is there to fix the fuck up but there still lies an issue of Naidan making the warning if Jean wasn't any danger to Liu or anyone else as Naidan would know it was just self-defense. Yes Jean wants to kill somebody but he also joined Purgatory which has no kill rules, if he was being serious about it he would have joined Kengan or simply found another position that would let him kill people. As it stands, his Nicolas personality isn't that serious and Jean still has control over his own behavior. He's not Akoya who needs to be yanked off people like a retarded Pitbull eating a child. And if you say Naidan was warning Liu of another Worm then idk why he'd do that other than cuz he really liked Liu

>>281634206
It's kind of funny to think, if Lolong just took the second to last match instead of saving himself for the final match, the entire story probably dramatically shifts. Let's assume he beats Waka, than Fei is left fighting Ohma, the only fighter he's basically explicitly forbidden from going all out against.
>>281634587
I'm reminded of the character notes for Naidan where Sandro just says something like 'oh he smelled the familiar scent of a killer on Nicolas and that's why he warned Liu', except now even that is a bit weird considering that the real Nicolas didn't even die since Jean apparently failed to kill him.

>>281634587
>Not saying Sandro had this all scribbled out just yesterday but Sandro absolutely is aware of when he fucks up, his ways of fixing those fuckups and the timing just varies.
One must think of Sandro as incredibly resentful that after years and years of trying to forget about Yumi after Purgatory, there was apparently enough fan interest to bring him back years later.

Sandro really hates that monke for no discernible reason. I am sure that if one of “us” ever hires a detective to look into Sandrobitch’s past he’ll find out that as a child a big bulky man accidentally stepped on his foot and made him cry in front of the entire class, or something.

Who's Haruo jobbing to? Shen, Ohma, Waka, or Himuro?

>>281618204
>naidain tells liu not to trust Nicolas, because the real Nicolas (who was not part of Purgatory or present or known to Liu in any way, shape, or form) worked with the Worm
>Naidan also worked for the Worm
What exactly did Sandro mean by this? Truly I have not yet 'arrived' at understanding this, maybe I'm just too 'green'

>>281634731
Yumi is a fun heel character but Sandro seems to believe the audience just loves to hate him, so he only ever brought back Yumi for humiliation rituals. That extra chapter where Metsudo personally spared Yumi after Purgatory and Yumi ran away like a bitch was some of the most tone deaf shit in the whole manga.

The "Don't trust Nicolas" fuck up absolutely stems from whatever was going on with Terashi. Terashi's backstory definitely changed drastically before he finally got to fight, I doubt he was meant to be Vibrator Man. When his backstory changed to being a Hitman there needed to be an explanation to why a Hitman was in Purgatory so a characters backstory had to be sacrificed, which is what happened to Nicolas
That's just my theory but it is based around how Last Minute Sandro can be with his writing

>>281634971
It may just be this place gaslighting me but I feel that Sandro even treats other heel characters better than Yumi. Take, I don’t know, Willem at least being saddled with jobber gimmicks to create the pretence of him being a credible threat. Or Lu Tian at least being given a pretence of pathos while hunted in the sewers. Or Mukaku at least going out swinging even as he devolved and Sandro himself seemed unsure about how much of a heel he was supposed to be. Or Tiger Niko who…okay, he lost an immense amount of aura, but at least he’s still allowed to pretend like he has ongoing ambitions unlike Yumi who is literally the victim in his fight. And then isn’t even afforded a moral highground because Koga has to just go and let him know the Yakuza wants that ontologically evil orangutan dead for killing people incompetently.

>>281635031
I just don’t understand why Terashi couldn’t be a hitman who’s also a genuine martial artist to give Okubo a decent challenge. Daro must’ve been uppity about putting in effort that day before they discovered chatgpt.

>>281635111
>Yakuza wants that ontologically evil orangutan dead for killing people incompetently

I don't think he was even incompetent at it, he was just going for the highest bidder which isn't too far out of the realm of possibilities of being a common thing in Kengan's Underworld. The Kure very openly and gleefully betray their clients not just if the money runs out but also if they feel like it. Muteba just fucks off if he actually has to try nowadays and Kuroki is so ultra-specific about his targets I doubt he gets any real work anymore
By all means Yumi and Terashi seem like the most reasonable assassins/hitmen in the room at any given time. At least Terashi tried to fight Shen, Muteba just gave up

Losing all that weight won't stop his knees being obliterated by it existing previously

>>281618077
>those hands
He knows formless?

>>281618204
>there's a good chance he'll turn up in the special match
Why the fuck would he do that?

>>281635111
>I just don’t understand why Terashi couldn’t be a hitman who’s also a genuine martial artist
I think it's fine for Terashi to primarily be an assassin who isn't a huge martial arts guy, but as long as he at least knows some CQC to pass himself off as a middling fighter for the infiltration job. Hell, maybe the French government could have wanted him for his skills in being untraceable due to frequently changing identities or being discreet or just for having a 100% success rate even in diverse conditions. They could have made Terashi a guy who can adapt to any job well enough to confirm the kill and move on, so despite not being a trained martial artist he was willing to dabble enough and assume and identity to infiltrate the dog and pony show that is Purgatory to get close to his target. Make him like a mix of Chiba and Kaneda, but geared toward assassination.
He could have still given Okubo some trouble by being experienced in a variety of scenarios and having the determination to see any job through. The reason he'd ultimately lose to Okubo is because Okubo is just a straight up combat sports guy who was more fit for the ruleset than Terashi and because Terashi specializes in studying up on a target and tuning his skills to deal with them. Since he wouldn't know ahead of time who he's fighting, he'd only have time to develop the skills to deal with a basic level of opponent.
Instead, Sandro made Terashi a guy who specialized specifically in weapon kills and was even willing to recommend other, more fitting assassins to the French. Then when they insisted, for some reason he chose to get experimental brain surgery to shiver good and have good eyesight.
I know this is a huge amount of autism and far more thought than Sandro put into the character, but I do wonder if any of the anons here have ever posited a concept for what Terashi was going to be that came close to any of the draft versions of the character.

>>281618264
Tienmaxxing

>>281635745
>I do wonder if any of the anons here have ever posited a concept for what Terashi was going to be that came close to any of the draft versions of the character.

For a bit people believed Terashi was meant to be a clone of Agito based off a tweet Daro made referring to Terashi as someone familiar, or something close to that

>>281635693
Just assume Nicolas still works for the Worm and the Worm called in a favor because they're going up against the Kengan Association and the KA has the most diverse listing of Fighters any other Org has ever seen
Seriously, those guys have the Kure AND now the Wu working with/for them and presumably the Inaba clan if the mid 30 year old twink called in some favors
It's Worm vs Kengan and like 7 Purg fighters lol

>>281635238
Technically Fusui is the best assassin/hitwoman in the setting simply because she just uses her Kure abilities to better use a fucking sniper rifle like a sensible person.

>>281635745
I mean…yeah, if you took away ALL the context for who Terashi is and what he was doing there like

>spending money on brain surgery and facial reconstruction from Hanafusa like he can afford it
>bailing on a job from the FRENCH FUCKING GOVERNMENT because “Nicholas” is “dead”
>spending YEARS to complete the contract
>a contract to take out one specific man by the way
>and if you assumed Terashi would a modicum of effort into learning self-defence instead of just giving himself brain trauma and calling it a day

Then sure, you can write anything if you don’t write like YOU’RE the one who’s recently recovering from brain surgery.

Like sure. Make Terashi a weapons specialist, make his entire cosplay be a red herring. But for god’s sake have it make SOME sense. Maybe he was leaving to deal with Nicholas and Goat strongarmed him into fighting someone he wasn’t prepared for which he complied with not to blow his cover. Maybe instead of fucking brain surgery-based superpowers which should logically cost too much for assassin jobs to reliably afford, he’s just immensely proud of his weapons skills and thought he could take Okubo hand to hand. Just, SELL me on Terashi being the kind of guy the French government would headhunt to take care of a military deserter instead of being an eccentric smug buffoon who seems to approach fighting like an alien who doesn’t understand basic human biology.

>>281635745
I've forgotten what the justification for him being an A-Lister in Purg was.
Like you'd think that he'd at least need to have the skills to get there legitimately.

>>281635918
Fucking Shen is participating, he alone would probably be enough. What's some scrub going to do?

>>281634714
>except now even that is a bit weird considering that the real Nicolas didn't even die since Jean apparently failed to kill him.
This could have been prevented if Sandro didn't ad lib Omega (or his writing in general).
You'd think that someone who works full time as a writer (and who apparently has enough time to simultaneously write 3 other manga) has enough time to plan out the details of a story that the author in question very clearly wants to be a layered story with lots of worldbuilding and connecting plots and mysteries. But instead, the author in question just improvises every chapter from week to week.

>>281635934
>you can write anything if you don’t write like YOU’RE the one who’s recently recovering from brain surgery
Basically, yeah. Terashi is one of the most inconsistent and ill-conceived new characters and he feels like nothing compared to a lot of the more egregious, plot-relevant characters we have running around. You can really tell that he went through multiple vague drafts and concepts before Sandro had to open the mystery box, and waffling about his with character for so long left him with nothing built up for him or that could reasonably connect.

>>281635953
He wasn't even an A-lister. He was the sole B-lister on the team who Goat included because he thought he was interesting. He was a relatively recent transfer from the acquisition of Bishamon's roster, so Terashi clearly planned to play a long game of getting close to his target, but then for some reason this barely average fighter whose only gimmicks of shivering and good eyes were enough to get Goat to consider him for "the strongest team he could think of."
This means that Terashi scrubbed his way through Bishamon for a while, somehow beat enough shitters or had a good enough reputation to make B-list alongside people like Mark Myers, and then impressed Goat enough with his potential to land him a space on the tournament team ahead of recent A-list addition Kim Jong-Gi.

>>281635918
>AND now the Wu
The Chinese Wu to be fair. On the Worm’s team: Apart from rando specialists who survived the purges like Hiruko (the Juri Han-looking girl who replaced Nogi’s secretary by hiding in a closet and wearing her clothes while she was on sick leave. Somehow) or Fu Zhan, they retconned Eddie/Gilbert into a Connector kneeler. So the entire Westward Wu faction is effectively at their beck and call despite Shen’s opinion on having subordinates. They also seem to be on relatively good terms with the surviving Consecutors considering the Consecutors didn’t throw in with Luohan, so they could probably call in some favours there. Theoretically they might have some extra Tiger Niko students since it’s never specified how many haven’t been told to kill themselves, Fei/Lu Tian showed that while loyal to Tigger they’re also very ambitious and open to working with anyone who can offer them substantial advantages just like Lu Tian liked the cut of Xia Ji’s jib enough to be on his team for a while (unlike that monster Luohan). There’s also the Death Dealers, an entire multinational military company who are apparently more loyal to the Connector than to their nominal CEO. It’d be shocking if they didn’t have ANY skilled fighters or useful contacts; at the very least if Yan was invested enough in this farce to force KA’s hand he could just order them to come in with guns while KA’s best and brightest are isolated. Finally, remember way back in the day Hayami was conspiring with the Worm to overthrow the KA? NOW of course no noble Kenganvenger CEO would be anything less than loyal, but in theory the Worm could flash around a wad of cash to get more third parties on their side.

I’m not saying the Worm will make good use of ANY of this, I’m just saying that on paper they should be the one with the stacked fighter roster even after killing off their entire organisation.

>>281636058
>who Goat included because he thought he was interesting
Wasn't it because he was suspicious? I remember Goat saying he picked a bunch of suspicious dudes so whether they were worms or not would be exposed during the fights.

>>281618169
(The Real) Nicolas vs "The Real" Carlos Medel

>>281636040
>Fucking Shen is participating
To be fair supposedly Tiger is weaker than Dragon because he has less experience with owning a fully formed consciousness. Supposedly. Weak to the extent that apparently Ohma and co can actually fight with him instead of being magically brushed aside like leaves as he saunters around invisibly oneshotting everyone who isn’t actually, ACTUALLY, Kuroki. Hushen is getting a lot of the chungus treatment so I would err on Sandrobitch finding a way to wank a reason why Kitten Niko was so scared of him in what should’ve been his weakest, most easy to kill state.

Seriously the Tiger Niko of Ashura would’ve torn his throat out the moment he sensed Shen’s powerlevel dropping.

>>281618099
>>281618124
Wait so let me get this straight
1. The french government rescinded the hit on "Nicolas", because the Terashi found out the person they thought was Nicolas actually wasn't
2. BUT the french government also knows the REAL Nicolas is still alive somewhere doing who knows what.
3. Now that the french government knows this, somehow they don't care about the REAL Nicolas anymore to put out a hit on him and just letting him be???

What the fuck???

>>281618204
I can buy Nicolas being affiliated with the Worm, but I can't imagine what led to the scenario in the picture.

>>281635953
Goat liked his cut, that's it. Personally I think KA managed to snatch up most of the good Fighters so Goat was only left with some flyover state-tier fighters and "But never is"-tier A listers that he could hype as S-tiers
It's telling that his best fighters were secret cult members infiltrating his side hustle

>>281636066
WESTWARD WU ARE GENETIC JOBBERS. They are there to make the other guy look good. They're less reliable than the Kure

>>281636040
Because Yan is a weird Nanny, Shen could take on the whole entirety of KA but Yan would rather there be bodies in front of Shen to take the damage Shen could dodge

>>281636080
That was the reasoning he gave after the tournament was over, but he didn't call out exactly who he meant by that IIRC. It's true that Terashi could be among them, but why specifically him over any number of other fighters? Terashi wasn't the only new fighter he got and we were never given any indication he's ever done anything but fit in while at Purgatory. There was no outside of the ring drama that established Terashi in a way that would make it seem like Toyoda was worried about him. Hell, he sheltered shiftier people like Le Banner and he knew Yumigahama was disloyal based on how he acquired him.
Setting that aside, that being his reasoning felt very tacked on much like how Toyoda sort of exists to just be a quirky, bombastic guy instead of a cunning and ambitious business tycoon.
"Why yes, I threw the competition and cost myself my fighting promotion on purpose just to see if a few weirdos on my roster would act up during the event" doesn't make him sound very competent.

>>281636117
At that point, isn't Terashi's job back on anyway? "Kill this man" means "kill this man," so unless the contract was terminated upon the case of mistaken identity being discovered and they couldn't get him to take the job again, I don't see why they wouldn't just have Terashi do it since they muscled him into it the first time.

>>281636117
>What the fuck???
To be fair, the French government being incompetent enough to only rescind a hit 2 years after no progress was made, then belatedly finding out that the wrong target was being tracked and that the real target was actually a member of an international terrorist kung fu cult-

-is absolutely on-brand for the French government’s competence.

>>281618331
This nigga has a Y on his forehead

>>281636181
>Yan is a weird nanny
Yan’s role in the story is utterly bizarre specifically because the Worm’s goals are framed more as appeasement rather than reverence of Shen. So you can’t even say he’s like, a devoted cultist or something. Yan is simultaneously terrified of Shen going loco (as seen even now when he shits a brick hearing Tiger, who he somehow recognises, on Dragon’s phone) but also fusses over him going places and potentially getting in danger. He’s been fucked over by rewrites as much as Terashi.

>>281636188
Honestly I would’ve accepted “Goat liked the cut of his jib” if it was explicit, we already have the precedent of the Falcon basically getting in on nepotism and I could see Goat deciding that what this high-stakes tournament for literal ownership of his company really needs is a COOL assassin guy (since on paper Naidan, Fei, Lu Tian, Lolong and Alan alone should’ve guaranteed a clean sweep. There was no reasonable way for Goat to know the sheer cavalcade of bullshit involved in all those fights)

>>281636181
>I think KA managed to snatch up most of the good Fighters so Goat was only left with some flyover state-tier fighters and "But never is"-tier A listers that he could hype as S-tiers
I've always subscribed to the idea that Kengan has most of the known big talent and a lot of the hidden guys already under their thumb because their collective has a huge network of resources and ambitious business sharks who are willing to scour the world for hot talent. Purgatory has a few exceptions, but I imagine that Purgatory is just that much weaker because it's an entertainment organization that has only really risen into prominence in the last few years.
I think the initial idea that inter-corpo politics would make it hard to form a collective effort to keep Toyoda out with how splintered things are under Nogi's rule, but it was played out so poorly and Kengan sent a stacked team even with the murderers anyway.

>>281636223
Yea, except Terashi is just walking away, so the French goverment somehow doesn't care anymore.
Of course what I mean is the French government not caring is a writing fuck up on Sandro's part not realizing that he didn't make things make sense in the same chapter.

>>281636289
>on paper Naidan, Fei, Lu Tian, Lolong and Alan alone should’ve guaranteed a clean sweep
Hey, at least Naidan and Alan secured wins for their team.

>>281636293
Purgatory is weird because Sandro simultaneously wants to write it as less hardcore than KA but also have a minority of hardcore elite fighters above and beyond the average KA-level regular. Lolong blatantly having a padded version of Agito’s resume being the most blatant example.

>>281636337
Naidan secured a win for his team.
RAIAN secured a win for Alan’s team, nothing that happened in that “fight” was part of Alan’s gameplan.

>>281634855
Don't bother thinking about it. Sandwich certainly didn't. So why should you?

>>281636355
So I believe the idea that Goat COULD have a small but reliable roster he cultivated at the top end of his business that he can actually wield while Kengan is the biggest organization and therefore Kengan "average" is a bunch of mid-level shitters isn't bad. Think of Komada and how he was just a filler fighter for Nogi while his real fighter was at the cleaners. The KAT was all the best of the best and a handful of unknown ringers that got called in to show that there was more great talent out there that weren't already KA mainstays.
It's just executed so poorly because there wasn't really much difference in team unity, planning, or cooperation.

>>281618450
>>281618482
>Connector described as a "wind"
>>281629758
>Hassad is the arabian whirlwind
ITS FUCKING HAPPENING

>>281636188
>"Why yes, I threw the competition and cost myself my fighting promotion on purpose just to see if a few weirdos on my roster would act up during the event" doesn't make him sound very competent.

He basically put his entire Org at risk because he wanted Kengan to kill any potential Worms that made their way into his Fight Club. Goat's a dipshit who thought it'd be a better idea to risk getting his normal fighters killed because he knew Kengan's fighters wouldn't be able to follow basic instructions like not killing people

>>281636289
Sandro really just wanted Yan to be the funny nanny guy who is also Xia's replacement, sort of like how Gilbert is Eddie's replacement. He's not meant to be anything more than that, the only difference between him and Gilbert, Luohan and Fu Zhan is that Yan isn't a clone

>>281636293
>Kengan sent a stacked team

I still think it was a waste of time to go through the effort of making it seem like a worry that Kengan was having a hard time finding good fighters just to end up sending an A-Team anyway, murderhobo's included
Kengan only suffered losses when their fighters fought like retards for no reason (Gaolong) or were whipped because of a gimmick (Lihito) or killed someone (Akoya, Raian and Ryuki) or weren't in Ashura (Toku2). Should have tossed in some C-list and B-listers instead if you wanted real risks

>>281636518
>Hassad shows up against the Connector and do a "Terrible Wind vs Arabian Whirlwind" speech
>immediately gets no-diffed like in Ashura

>>281636500
Exactly. If Sandro was willing to make Goat a bit more cutthroat he could’ve been the opportunistic expansionist CEO operating a well-oiled machine to KA’s relatively anarchic ecosystem of competitors because of Nogi enjoying the infighting. Instead of Sandro rewriting Goat into needing a clumsily executed secondary hidden goal at the last minute.

…I think he just hired Muteba because he thought it would be funny, desu.

>a waste of time
Team Kengan was unironically too strong to win, that’s why Purg got so many victories from getting their asses beat.

>>281618450
>>281618482
If Haruo has an actual fight with Shen, I'll forgive Sandro.
But what are the odds?

>>281619065
>>281619734
>Sandro subverted the subversion
M-my knees...

>>281636518
now this is a schizotheory for the ages

>>281636684
What gets me is that the competition was delayed so that Toyoda could have known middling A-lister Yumigahama at full health for the competition. Ironically, it actually gave Team Kengan the time to complete their team where Goat already had alternatives. For fuck's sake, he agreed to a special match just to humiliate Yumi, which means he delayed the competition just to dunk on one of his own fighters.

>>281636776
You're thinking about this too logically. Sandro simply didn't decide to have that special match or even to make Yumi a weak little shit until he was writing the actual chapter. Stop trying to think about this shit logically. The only logic that exists in the context of Omega is the logic of a writer that ad libs so much that it creates these baffling inconsistencies for anyone who so much as spends 5 seconds thinking about them.

>>281636115
>Seriously the Tiger Niko of Ashura would’ve torn his throat out the moment he sensed Shen’s powerlevel dropping.

I guess even at such a nerfed level he's still way above tiger niko and/or dragon shen was so muich stronger tiger couldnt feel his powerlevel as opposed to dragon

>>281633177
Sandro is still scaling the wall. Soon he'll be able to ruin the chapter WHILE writing it.

>>281636117
I guess the logic goes something like
>French government discovers Nicolas corpse isn't among the bodies
>There's a fighter in some underground fighting scene that has his name
>Does zero research, just hires Terashi to take him out (despite the fact that Terashi has zero fighting experience)
>Requests it so he has to take him out by fighting instead of just shooting him.
>Terashi discovers that his target isn't even Nicolas
>Calls his client, tells him 'the Nicolas in Purgatory isn't even Nicolas, it's Jean'.
>Well fuck, it's the wrong target, who cares about Jean?
>Cancels the contract on Jean
>Has no idea where the real Nicolas is, so can't exactly just put a new hit on him.
Now if it turns out that they knew where the real Nicolas was all along, then this all falls apart.

>>281636963
I mean…if we’re to believe that Setsuna is supposed to be roughly in the ballpark of being a worthy rival for Ohma (despite him literally only learning 2 techniques, one of which he SLIGHTLY modifies, and nothing else even after the course of a 2-year timeskip), then Hushen seems to be in the same ballpark as Tigger Nikek right now, and likely below him when he first emerged? Tigger was getting his assbeat by Kiryu until he got serious offscreen. Hushen is actively trying against sub-Ohma fighters, and of course his fight with Ohma was offscreened to avoid disrespecting either chungus, implying they’re on closer footing. This is AFTER Hushen has had some time to get used to his body, mind.

I am talking absolute nonsense because I am trying to make sense of powerlevels in Omega, which is written solely around whoever Sandrobitch likes the most anyway.

>>281637074
If we’re being very. VERY. VERY. Generous. We could argue that the only reason why the French government even found out about this highly specific person of interest’s status was because of the worldwide hunt for the Worm after they heinously bombed Italy and disfigured-nay, VIOLATED the noble Statue of Liberty. And that therefore they didn’t act sooner because they were busy ramping up to deal with the Worm until the Death Dealers did all the work for them.

>>281636776
Yumi was probably meant to be actually strong at the start, and then sometime between that and his fight Sandro decided to change his mind and turn him into a weak gimmick fighter.
>>281636539
>>281636188
Let's be honest, it was probably Sandro retroactively trying to make goat not look like a retard by having him pretend like it was all part of a plan to smoke out the worms or whatever. Despite how little sense it makes or that it still makes him look stupid, just in another way.

>>281637192
>Yumi was probably meant to be actually strong at the start

He WAS. He was specifically said to be on par with Agito and or around his level. I don't know what happened for Yumi to suddenly get shit on by even his own team in every interaction though, there was some decent time between that and Yumi's humiliation ritual that it can't be entirely because of Misasa's inclusion and Lu Tian's reworked backstory
It looks like Sandro started hating Yumi almost as soon as he could start writing him during the Tournament

>>281637091
>despite him literally only learning 2 techniques, one of which he SLIGHTLY modifies
He knows a bevy of Niko Style moves well enough to have mastered them and has been shown to be quite innovative. Blink is a parlor trick for the most part, but Rakshasa's Palm is ridiculous and he can use it better than the guy who actually killed Ohma's (injured) Niko. Setsuna has always been pretty good. He's a prodigy on the level of Cosmo but who lived a far more fucked up life. He did exchange moves with Ryuki as well, which is why he pulls out Air Rending and uses it better than Ryuki ever did.

>>281637356
>specifically said to be on par with Agito and or around his level
I never put any stock in this. Agito was already fucking cracked in a way that no one else had seen before and he only got stronger over time. Yumigahama could have maybe been on his level in the sense that, like, Waka or Akoya are on "his level." Himuro just said some shit that would get Agito interested and make him think that his presence was needed so he'd come back.

>>281637356
desu if anyone ITT said they were on agito's level, id believe them

>>281637454
>a bevy of Niko Style moves
Okay great, so his arsenal is roughly as well-versed in the Niko Style as Koga but for the sake of argument I’m assuming he’s just better at them because >prodigy. It’s still really weird to me that Setsuna has all this talent, has a violent goal, and is clearly full of unimaginable determination to live like he does with few regrets…

…and he seems to be only slightly more interested in learning the fundamentals of how to ACTUALLY fight than Terashi. Seriously, how the fuck do you train Ryuki for 2 years and only notice you didn’t actually teach him how to fight at the very end?

>>281637490
I bet you’re on Agito’s level and you’re just keeping quiet about it, anon.

>>281618204
"Evil" is on the move...

>>281618368
At this point he should just give up wrestling and ask Kiozan to teach him sumo instead

>>281637506
>how the fuck do you train Ryuki for 2 years and only notice you didn’t actually teach him how to fight at the very end
In all fairness, Setsuna's goals have always been to do exactly enough to kill who he needs to kill or get himself killed in the way he wants to. He's less of a fighter and more of a murderer, so he's really carried by his genius-level innate talent even if he doesn't actually care about fighting for the sake of it. He "trained" Ryuki by getting him to stick to killing as a means to an end and taught him to use Rakshasa's Palm, which we're told normally takes years to master on its own. Most of their time together was spent killing Worms more so than training. Ryuki just asked him to make him a better killer again.
Ryuki was already a competent fighter from the outside, easy to forget as it is, but he was gimping himself in the Kengan Matches. He's just not as talented as Setsuna so he couldn't take to the Rakshasa's Palm as easily. I'd bet that Setsuna didn't even teach him any of his Niko Style stuff because he doesn't like to use "his techniques" to begin with and uses them sparingly.

>>281637651
>He "trained" Ryuki by getting him to stick to killing as a means to an end and taught him to use Rakshasa's Palm, which we're told normally takes years to master on its own. Most of their time together was spent killing Worms more so than training. Ryuki just asked him to make him a better killer again.
…and then he walks away without an explanation after Ryuki loses from murdering people making him WEAKER, while silently thinking to himself that he never meant to hurt anyone. I am just saying, even with Kiryu’s approach in mind and the knowledge that he is literally schizo it hurts my head and my suspension of disbelief to try to imagine training somebody to be a better fighter for two (2) years and NOT notice they’ve become WORSE at fighting.

Did they not fucking spar? Ever?

>>281637791
I'd write it off as Setsuna being a terrible teacher. As long as Ryuki was killing low level mooks then he seemed to be doing fine. Setsuna's main goal in life is to die so he'd probably be shit at anything other than killing and wanting to get killed

>>281637843
You know what, fair enough. I can see a prodigy skipping a few fundamental steps that should be “obvious” to him.
Now explain WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK Kiryu was rambling about earlier regarding a “new God” or about “becoming God” when it was subsequently established he never meant to hurt Ryuki and his goals ended up ultimately just being to jump Kitten Niko and beat him up.

>>281637791
I still think that Ryuki should've been a top dog, because it works better thematically. A killing machine from the Inside, but a complete child, when it comes to living in a normal society. His style of fighting being unironically too strong, like some sham martial artists say, to use effectively in public matches would've been solid. Plus he would've been a nice "wall" for Koga to scale. I'd say, the story would've lost nothing from Ryuki being as strong as Ohma.

Just look how much difference it makes to shift the style just a little bit. Ryuki used a non-lethal technique as a setup for a kick to the head. It leaves just enough for imagination to think about many opponents Ryuki murdered by a kick to the temple from this position. And all from a single move.

>>281637958
Ah, shit, forgot to add this page in paint. Ryuki straight up says that to him weeping willow is a murdering tool, not just a redirecting trick.

>>281618421
Kek this happened to my dad's truck once when my super obese friend asked us for a ride.

>>281637989
My friend is dead already. So lose weight.

>>281637919
The weirdest thing about Ryuki is that based on Sandro’s comments he was INTENDED as a top dog initially (at least relative to Koga), but Sandrobitch’s idea of character development seems to have been…falling behind irreparably into irrelevance, and eventually deciding he’s not really into this whole fighting thing. Until he is again, because waku-waku Shen-sama!

>>281638080
It would be cool if Ryuki tried to fight against the shonen curse of being a fighthobo and leave that to Koga, I thought that's where Ohma's spar with Tiger was going to go but then Ryuki just stood there as Ohma pardons the guy that wants to scoop his brain out to fightfag himself

>>281638132
The writing was on the wall the moment Ryuki decided Dragon was way cooler and worth playing vidya with other that ABSOLUTE ANTICHRIST Lu*han.

This man is evil....how?

>>281619785
I was hyped for haru in beginning omega during his """TRAINING""" arc but now i'm scared they'll fucking job him

>>281638632
To understand Luohan's position you must first understand Sandro's morality
Kenganvengers are the good guys. Anyone against them is the bad guy.
Shen is friends with Kenganvengers, that makes him part of the good guys even if he fights them.
Luohan stands against Shen, who is on the good guys side, which makes Luohan the bad guy by default.

stop trying to confuse me, luohan. you are a vile scoundrel and your words will never sway me. I hope shen brutally murders you (after he's done eradicating an entire country again)

>>281638632
I'll always be mad that Sandro immediately dashed any sort of interesting interactions between Luohan and Ohma and Ryuki after having Ohma tell Luohan to fuck off and snitch on him to Shen and befriend Shen instead
Went for a route so baffling and subversive yet is so boring and somehow generic at the same time. This fucker just refuses to do anything interesting with his characters, it's all just safe routes

>>281638663
He already jobbed during the Jobber Bowl. He didn't even make it to the main lineup. Lost to fucking Himuro iirc.

>>281638903
Well what did you expect, Himuro is one of the legends

>>281638903
>>281638991
Haruo defeated Himuro you morons.

>>281638903
Haruo's busted knee got in the way and Himuro was given a pity win via forfeit just so he could job to Adam who jobbed to Ryuki. Haruo had him pinned and was beating the shit out of him

>>281618482
Why didn't he just do it when he was trying to get his shit together instead of waiting for Shen

>>281637091
Setsuna was far from a worthy rival to Ohma by the end of Ashura, he beat him pretty easily despite being half dead by that time already. Add to that the fact that Ohma has been actively training while Setsuna has just been offing sewer goons and it's all but confirmed that Ohma is far above him.

>>281634157
>Under the knife
Yes, I would trust him as he would combust spontaneously and die before he could even touch me

>>281618264
He is going to BRAZIL!

>chapter name leaks
>everyone is speculating whether Fei or Naidan or Alan could be alive
>it's the retarded French guy whose death everyone thought was kino

>>281640089
>everyone is speculating whether Fei or Naidan or Alan could be alive
and now youre definitely thinking that there's no way they'll be brought back. dont fall for the double subversion

>>281640134
Naidan is clearly going to have a worm clone

>>281640154
and his names gonna be braxton or some shit

>>281638632
You know Undertale? Luohan can travel across timelines and did horrible stuff in the last one, so even though he's done nothing in this one, everyone else can just sense that he killed everyone last time. That's why Shen slapped him, disrespecting Joji is something Luohan did in his last playthrough

>>281620667
What the fuck. Has it been that long already? My god.

>>281635918
> For a bit people believed Terashi was meant to be a clone of Agito based off a tweet Daro made referring to Terashi as someone familiar, or something close to that
I remember this, but I don’t understand how he was someone familiar or if this detail just got dropped entirely.

>>281618515
Feels weird to have characters with an actual plot, objective and motivations now. We got Liu, Haruo and Jean now.
Can't wait to see Sandro ruin it.

>>281619785
Sure, I just don't believe it

>>281622580
They're cute

>>281627811
It would be cool but I don't see it

>>281618070 (OP)
>chapter 320
>320
When will this trash end already?

>>281641047
Never. Once The Worm is dealt with we'll find out that The Third Niko has created his own rival Niko School for mysterious reasons that will definitely be explained and won't be dropped as Sandro's ChatGPT instance starts to hallucinate

Okay, but why is Ryuki the Omega?
What even is an Omega?

>>281618663
I'm still expecting for xia to reappear and fuck up something.

>>281641047
When you stop reading it
All of you

>>281641560
He's an omega gay (for koga)

So uh...what was that about

>>281641699
They looked in the general direction of his husband so now they must die.

>>281641699
Yumigahama looks so gloriously ugly here, I have no idea how Daro hated drawing him.

>>281641699
Yumi WILL be back in the battle royale tournament
Ryuki WILL one page him
You WILL cheer until you find out that
Yumi WAS hired by that dastardly Louhan

>>281618264
Okay, since no one mentioned it I feel I have to now.

What the fuck is going on with the street and building(?) they're meeting by? What purpose do two featureless brick... bricks serve in the middle of a city? Literally, what the hell am I looking at?

>>281641699
It is funny to think about Ryuki having at least 5 "forgive me, master, but i have to go all out, just this once" moments in manga.

>>281637916
I personally believe that Sandro originally wanted to have YET ANOTHER plot thread involving Setsuna as a maverick element and quaternary antagonist who was going to be part of the scrapped plot surrounding Ryuki being "The Omega" and Koga's larger intermediate development, but decided to scrap it all to instead make Setsuna tragically unwell and misunderstood.
He left room for Setsuna to still be on his shit from the KAT, but realized it was probably better for him to be partially fixed after what he went through and decided to focus on the more positive points of his character.

>>281619925
Liu has had better character development than Koga or Ryuki, it just won't amount to anything because he's not one of Sandro's favorites

>>281643507
>I'll stop holding back
>*jobs*
Has there been a character like at all?

>>281641699
>Sorry gramps, I'll have to use the martial arts you taught me wrong as a joke

>>281637919
Ryuki works as a top dog within the context that he's not strong enough to fight the "real" top dogs without killing, but he's fully capable of killing people at the KAT level if only the rules would allow it. He's been trained since nearly birth to be a murder machine by Mukaku with all of the more rounded refinements of the Niko Style stripped away to focus purely on efficiency.
Like this is a guy who showed up at Metsudo's doorstep ready to scrap, was able to whip Ren and Kokuro's asses like it was nothing, and was later pretty confident in his ability to murder Akoya if he had to. You'd expect that Sandro would have actually played into the angle of Ryuki being too pure in his training to be an efficient killer that holding back to just a few non-lethal moves was the main reason he struggled at all. Then all it took was two years of training with sportsman for Koga and two years of "stagnating" by killing people in sewers for Koga to blow past him.

>>281644042
Man, i sometimes wonder how cool it would've been, if he outright murdered one of previoys Ashura characters. Someone memorable and decently strong. Picture this, the fight goes as always, but Ryuki can't seem to win, then, he gets knocked out, loses control and uses something like that system from Niko style that shuts down the nervous system (or whatever nonsense it was). Pretty good setup for him to leave kengan gang for some self evaluation.

>>281644117
>if he outright murdered one of previoys Ashura characters
That's pretty much the root cause why this manga is a mess, previous characters aren't allowed to lose, or if they do, it's because they were too strong too win. So the alternative because the villains always lose and now Sandro has to desperately try and convince you that they're super strong and evil and definitely won't lose on the next fight.

>>281644117
He should have fucking killed Akoya like he was about to before he got stopped
Murdercop has gotten away with entirely too much

>>281644290
list of people who should have fucking killed Akoya:
>Ryuki
>Nicolas
>Willem

>>281644290
Akoya is the only moral character left in the series. Everyone else is completely deranged

>>281629758
The only thing that can make me go back to this series properly.
I don't even read the manga anymore i just skim through the pages in Keng/a/n threads to see the memes.

>>281644480
Post height small one.

>>281645288
I am 2M tall and 130KG

How many chapters has it been since we've seen Gilbert? Does Sandro even remember that Gilbert exists?

>>281645511
Fat bastard

>>281618264
based Terashi bailing out while he still has some dignity

>>281644042
>Ryuki works as a top dog within the context that he's not strong enough to fight the "real" top dogs without killing, but he's fully capable of killing people at the KAT level if only the rules would allow it.
Ryuki lost a ton even while doing the going for the kill shit

>>281644042
I still firmly believe that Ryuki should have been mentored by Rei, considering his character arc is largely a parallel to Rei's
it just makes too much fucking sense for Sandro to do it, though

>>281645511
You fat bastard

>>281646464
>Ryuki, you remind me of me. Lost, disassociated, making no human connections. Listen to me, I know how to change that. First off lets go see my paramour, she works at a brothel.

>>281635745
>but I do wonder if any of the anons here have ever posited a concept for what Terashi was going to be that came close to any of the draft versions of the character.
I remember a concept posted of him being a martial arts prodigy descended from that Fa figure they teased, who was restricted by his dated kung fu style his clan had refused to let evolve with the times, as a contrast to Okubo and his MMA.

>>281645909
Gilbert's just there to sort of "fix" the mistake of killing Eddie off before he could do anything substantial. Now that Sandro "established" Gilbert as a threat he's done his job and can go back to playing with his favorite toys
Gilbert will show up again when he needs to die

>Terashi is still wearing sunglassess

He never undid that Pseudo Fist Eye thing did he, he can still totally vibrate like a dildo

>>281647249
>okay, first step, we have to ungay you

>>281646219
I'm of course speaking of the hypothetical way in which Ryuki could have been fixed. The Berserker Bowl obviously dragged him through the mud, but up until then he was actually doing pretty well. He struggled a few times under Kengan no-kill rules, but he seemed confident enough in his ability to seal the deal if he had to. Naidan is just an extension of this because he was trying really hard not to have to kill anyone and he was confused about a sudden Worm appearing just to kick the shit out of him and threaten/goad him cryptically. The moment he went for the kill though, he secured it. He just regressed after the timeskip to the point of struggling with people who should have been well within his wheelhouse before.

>>281644290
Akoya is genuinely too entertaining to kill off that early into Omega. In the plot that was definitely scrapped, he was most certainly a huge influence on Ryuki just like Setsuna was, but it all fell by the wayside and go off-screened.

>>281619065
Nicolas Le Banner was just the weakest of the "protagonists"

>>281642973
>What the fuck is going on with the street and building(?) they're meeting by? What purpose do two featureless brick... bricks serve in the middle of a city? Literally, what the hell am I looking at?

Daro was being lazy with the prompts for those particular pages. Don't think about it too much. It passed the editor, so he didn't bother putting in any more effort.

>>281644290
True, he really should have.

>>281645511
Do you know martial arts? What's your top three?

>>281650976
1. Pankration
2. Capoeira
3. Bartitsu

>>281651035
Not the same question, sorry. I was asking if you knew martial arts and also what your "big three total" is. As in squat, deadlift and bench press.

>>281651118
Cassius Clay

I finally got it guys.
Why would Terashi give that sinister smile while saying "see ya sucka" to Liu?
It's obvious! Nicholas IS dead, but Terashi got scouted by the Worm and is impersonating him in order to lure Liu, knowing that he will try something stupid and face them to avenge Naida and Jean Luc.

Or is simply the usual China-Taiwan rivalry, who knows

>>281651370
What if Terashi IS Nicolas...!!!

>>281651158
Who?

>>281618264
well that was unnecessarily rude wtf?

>>281618204
i cant take this anymore

>>281651627
Nah Terashi is right. He may have been stupid and got himself brain surgery that made him into a sex toy but getting loved tapped by Shen must have given him the clarity he needed to realize he'd be better off far and away from Purgatory and therefore Kengan
Liu, while justified, is a sucker for caring this much and getting himself involved with something so insultingly stupid. His story is only going to hurt him and us more the further he goes down this path as there's no way he's getting a cathartic ending

>>281645511
Haruo, I kneel...

>>281618070 (OP)
>>281618482
Ffs, I knew what was happening but I don't think it really hit me until this chapter. That fucking fraud Sandro is going to go through like 20 fucking filler characters just to stall and come up with more bullshit for his nonsense villains to do even though he fucking won't bother actually coming up with something and will just make something up in a week to week basis anyway. We're going to get motivational chapters for all the other Kenganverse mongs as well. Liu I can understand because he actually has a real fucking reason but Nicolas? Fucking Haruo? Come the fuck on. Not to mention how fucking annoying and quite frankly insulting it is to keep this 'Haruo fat' meme going. Does anyone really think he's going to go back to being chiselled when the fight begins? No, of course. He'll just be fat because that is his existence now. It's all so fucking tiresome.

>>281619785
No, he'll just stay a fat piece of shit and keep being out of breath in every panel and whine about the tournament and make quips like "I wish there were wending machines around so I could buy some snacks hyuk hyuk hyuk". That is literally all he's good for now.

>>281637843
>>281637916
>>281643856
Basically I'm almost positive that Setsuna was originally going to be evil and a corrupting influence on Ryuki. There's not really many other ways to read him explicitly pushing Ryuki to becoming more of a killer for something like the Berserker bowl despite him knowing the KA's current stance on killing, and Ohma even shows up and calls him out on turning Ryuki worse and more crazy, only for Setsuna to deflect.
But then at some point Sandro realized that Setsuna was a Kengan Ashura character and therefore can't be evil and did a completely 180 and had Setsuna reverse his stance going 'oops I didn't actually mean to do that to Ryuki, I have no idea what I was doing, sorry'.

>>281643507
Fucking kek, that is actually really funny

>>281634206
I was rereading the latter half of the KA vs Purg tournament and did a double take when there was a scene going 'Lolong had become too strong'.
That at least explains his on screen track record. He is 'too strong' and 'lacks the experience of defeat'.

>>281643968
Unironically the only characters like that I can think of are 90s/00s era villainesses who exist to be massive bitches that eventually have mental breakdowns and reveal they just wanted to be loved. Like Leda from Casshern Sins.

That’s how low Setsuna and Ryuki have sunk, they’re basically canon corrected evil woman wives in everything but gender (and Setsuna still hellbent on ruining his own life because he rightfully thinks a Kenganvenger free pass to forgiveness is bullshit)

>>281618070 (OP)
>, 1456x2048)
Why does this guy look like Koga 1-1?

>>281648963
>there's a non-zero chance that the real Nicolas has been cloned
>we get a recreation of the Nicolas vs real Nicolas fight but all the corpses are real Nicolas clones that our Nicolas has killed
Kino?

>>281654337
I remember someone mentioning that Setsuna should have been the one to save Kazzy instead of Ohma and Raian and I think anon was right
Like a sign of good faith that Setsuna does for Kazzy because Ohma liked him and Setsuna seemed to like Kazzy enough too for some reason. A nice road to redemption if Sandro wanted to Setsuna to be a good guy instead of a weird Anti-Protagonist. Even participating in KvP as a way to earn some favor with Metsudo and Nogi since Setsuna 'did' kill some of Metsudo's men, a "Win us a round and I'll overlook it" deal.
There was never a need for Setsuna to corrupt Ryuki, Akoya was right there being setup as Ryuki's Teacher. Setsuna corrupting Ryuki because he's still on about the whole God thing just feels forced because otherwise the dude should have died back in KAT

>not even going to hit the bump limit
Keng/a/n is finished...

>>281654906
What do you mean?

>>281638779
>after having Ohma tell Luohan to fuck off/befriend Shen
This is annoying because despite that, of the """main""" characters, Ryuki is still by and far the least sold on Shen (which isn't saying /much/ but whatever), and we just saw he's legitimately more concerned about the body jacking than Ohma and Koga. But this isn't actually going to lead to any further interactions with L*ohan, like you said. He's just gonna demurely go along with whatever big bro and beloved husband says while still saying/reacting just enough to still push the fact he isn't totally into what's being decided on.

Predict the next chapter of the Kengan Anthology.
>the legend, Himuro Ryo, links up with Gaolang Wongsawat to perfect "that" technique

>>281657659
Rape

>>281657659
I imagine we'll get more 'That's why X jobber is participating and is training for the battle royal' chapters that don't get any pay off.

>>281658686
Hassad could very well be... soon

I bet 50 bucks that Sandro will make the real Nicolas to be not actually a psychopath. The people he killed were actually bunch of evil guys that the evil Luohan recruited.

>>281618204
>you know the guy nobody cared about
>that was killed to further an existing characters motivation
>that everyone thought was one of the better parts of purgatory?
>HE'S ALIVE, HE WAS ALIVE ALL ALONG, AND HE'S WORKING WITH THAT DASTARDLY LOUHAN NO DOUBT
What the fuck is this writers problem

>>281659059
>Expectation: Jean-Luc is moving to defeat Nicholas before Nicholas kills more civilians
>Subversion: Nicholas explains that the “civilians” were all tainted by Luohan’s licentious lies, and he was just putting them out of their misery. Jean-Luc agrees this was a just and heroic act, and reconciles with Nicholas, who passes down the title of “The Protagonist” to him formally

>>281629144
Kengan Fighter who pulls out own skull to beat his opponent to death and puts it back suffering no ill effects.
Katahara: I'll allow it.

>>281659059
>I'm sorry Jean. I thought you were part of Luohan Island's trafficking crew, I should have trusted you instead of condemning you along with the rest of those pieces of trash. Will you ever forgive me?

>>281629249
Haru is genuinely, honestly quite possibly the weakest fighter in the whole Anihhilation Tournament.

Contenders who had weak showing in their first round.

Robinson: Despite getting wrecked by Raian, was actually one of the favourites to win and by fight history was one of the top fighters alongide the likes of Wakatsuki and Agito. During his fight with Raian even Erioh genuinely thought it was over, but mostly because he didn't want Raian to break out Removal infront of the crowd.

Nezu: As we've seen Purgatory is a big enough deal, the Champ of Bishamon is likely a lot stronger than given credit for. His build is similar to Agito with incredible reach and don't overlook that his kicks were faster than even experienced fighters could follow, a feat really only matched by Rei and Gaolang's lightning jabs. I feel he is a lot stronger than his loss suggests and he just fucked up by taking a low guard and not expecting an blitz-uppercut.

Nikaido: His wombo-combo looks like it sucked, but Setsuna needs to be on deaths door to activate his limit-break move, so he did genuinely one-shot Setsuna but he had some Focus-Sash-Endeavour-Quick-Attack combo himself.

Rihito: Managed to get at least one solid blow against Gensai and honestly his biggest feat at that point, his bathroom brawl, Raian had to use Removal to beat him down.
,
Meanwhile Harou went against Akoya and spent the first half of the fight getting absolutely clowned on until he took that first big knock down and hit his "Avatar mode", which his only hits were entirely due Hiyama Shunka's flawed timing, followed by him holding back while she tried to figure it out. The second he said "Times up, I'll just kill him." he proceeded to put him down with absolute lack of effort and avoided having to murder him by the guy crumbling under his own weight.

Harou is weak. The only fighters that might be weaker would be Chiba or Sawada, who are both seemingly pretty pathetic.

>>281640194
Can't wait for Lu Tian's American clone, Lou Tanner.

>>281659716
If Haruo's knee didn't give out, Akoya would have been beaten like an unwanted stepson, just like he did the entire time Haruo actually seriously fought instead of tantrum.

>>281659873
Akoya himself is weak as shit, he failed to beat a Cosmo that was already half crippled and only got as far as he did because Cosmo wasn't used to fighting a crazy murderhobo who didn't care about the fight.

>>281659909
What does that make Willem then, paper mache pudding?

>>281659958
A worthless jobber, like every single bad guy in Kengan. There's literally not a single bad guy who didn't end up laughable.

>>281659716
Haru and Himuro completely fucking each other up in Omega was so embarrassing. Two D tiers filtering each other.

>>281659059
>>281659357
>>281659476
>Friend, i thought you were a hero, my hero, but...
>dramatic pause
>Turns out you were the villain all along

>>281659059
>The real Nicolas is the middle soldier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IujyNi_Lna4

>>281618204
How is the real Nic relevant enough to get a personal meeting with the head of the worm and his brother

>>281618204
>buddies with the honorary Kenganvenger, Yan
>but also buddies with the VILE, COWARDLY MONSTER who LACKS CONVICTION Xia Ji
Hmm, it seems the "real" Nicolas is treading across a "razor" of indeterminate "thickness"...

>>281638080
>>281638132
Ryuki never seemed to like fighting to me even if he had a competitive streak with Koga. I honestly thought he was just going to retire to be a non-fighter after sorting out all this shit with the worm (when I took Kengan Omega as a serious story).

>>281661822
Thankfully, he knows how to properly "balance" his "personal life". Notice how both Yan and Nicolas are walking in front of Xia Ji. That is a subtle nod at the fact that Xia Ji should've never been born.

>>281659375
I wish there was a manga crazy enough to do something like that. And spectators wondering "is this even legal?!"

>>281661741
He isn't, that's the subversion. The Worm gang was just on a trip to Paris Disney land and here they're just asking this random french guy for directions.

>>281661908
kek

What if Naidan isn't dead

>>281663167
there was already a ghost naidan floating above him during his fight so there's no way he isn't. unless, of course, we see him again and there are 2 ghost naidans above him

>>281663167
>Naidan
>Nai-dan
>Nai (ない) - absent/isn't
>dan (だん) (n) done just done; just finished
WAKE THE FUCK UP, SHEEPLE

>>281618204
What the fuck wrong with the writer, and why does he keep doing this?!