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Anonymous No.281621687 [Report] >>281621901 >>281623003 >>281624213 >>281624250 >>281629373 >>281629835 >>281631468 >>281634886 >>281635604 >>281640810 >>281641269 >>281643227 >>281650748 >>281652038
Kare Kano? More like Kare KINO
Anonymous No.281621901 [Report] >>281622195
>>281621687 (OP)
Too much KINO for the manga author
Anonymous No.281622195 [Report] >>281622456
>>281621901
Is it because of the interview?
Anonymous No.281622456 [Report] >>281623113 >>281623176 >>281627040
>>281622195
No, the crazy bitch didn't like that the anime had this twist, that honestly propelled to new heights, and start fighting with Anno, the latter chapters of the manga are so bad that even the manga fans cannot defend them
Anonymous No.281622670 [Report] >>281634939
i love the opening. too bad that it is not used very often
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMp45N-cblw
Anonymous No.281623003 [Report]
>>281621687 (OP)
You can really tell Anno worked on it
Anonymous No.281623113 [Report] >>281637308
>>281622456
I had issues with the manga but it's crazy to me just how much animefags seem to need to feel like the anime adaptation is better. Especially strange when the anime is unfinished (which they usually are) and falls apart at the end like the Kare Kano anime.
Anonymous No.281623176 [Report] >>281624164 >>281628422
>>281622456
That is just the classic excuse they like to come up with to cover up his incompetence, same thing with Nadia.

Nothing about this controversy has been truly confirmed, what are the chances this is made up?
Anonymous No.281623211 [Report] >>281623452
The first time I thought the manga that Kano showed in episode 1 was the original manga, but I was disappointed to find out that it was a redesign of the anime and the manga didn't look that at all. My biggest problem is that it looks very boring and uninspired, the first chapter and the first episode tell the same thing but the presentation is so different that you can't help but think you're reading something totally different
Anonymous No.281623452 [Report]
>>281623211
>The first time I thought the manga that Kano showed in episode 1 was the original manga
lol same, when i saw that i was like "clever way to save money and tell the story" but nope
Anonymous No.281624164 [Report]
>>281623176
>same thing with Nadia
what happened with Nadia? beside losing lots of money for Gainax
Anonymous No.281624213 [Report]
>>281621687 (OP)
Can't say YuKINO without it
Anonymous No.281624250 [Report] >>281624703
>>281621687 (OP)
I like Kare Kano, but did you watch the entire show? Did you read the entire manga? Because in both cases the story goes downhill after a certain point. Steeper decline in the manga.
Anonymous No.281624703 [Report] >>281624854
>>281624250
>but did you watch the entire show?
yes
> Did you read the entire manga?
no
Anonymous No.281624854 [Report] >>281624923 >>281627076
>>281624703
Don't you think that the show was much better before the recap? I don't think the second half is bad. Just not as good as the first half.
Anonymous No.281624923 [Report]
>>281624854
yeah, in part, setting everything up was more fun but i still enjoyed it
Anonymous No.281624979 [Report] >>281625842
Maybe i hate love stories but i find it boring and impossible to watch more than one episode a week. It doesnt really have a plot, its just character development.
Anonymous No.281625842 [Report]
>>281624979
>find it boring and impossible to watch more than one episode a week
Well that's how things used to be before the binges
Anonymous No.281627040 [Report] >>281630419
>>281622456
>the latter chapters of the manga are so bad that even the manga fans cannot defend them
Lets be real this is every manga
Anonymous No.281627076 [Report]
>>281624854
Yeah the later half it drops off because it stops being a romcom anime about a "perfect" couple hiding their real identities and turns into "Here's the new character of the week and their backstory".
shosho No.281628422 [Report] >>281630419
>>281623176

"For the rest, I trusted them and did not worry about it. When I entrusted the adaptation to other people, I knew that it would not be "my" Kare Kano, even if the adaptation was the purest and the most faithful. So I gave them carte blanche , being careful not to make any comments. And in the end, a lot of people could see my story, … I am very happy about that."

https://web.archive.org/web/20110726051457/http://www.gainax.fr/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=164&Itemid=416
Anonymous No.281629373 [Report] >>281640175 >>281642851 >>281643160 >>281647308 >>281651148 >>281653283
>>281621687 (OP)
Pure cinematography
Anonymous No.281629835 [Report] >>281630419 >>281630705 >>281634836
>>281621687 (OP)
Is this, Hana Yori Dango, Fushigi Yugi, and maybe Nana the only shoujos free of pedophilia and incest?
Anonymous No.281629897 [Report] >>281630419
How bad does the manga gets?
Anonymous No.281630419 [Report]
>>281629897
I always feel like people exaggerate stuff like this. Especially with posts like >>281627040. My main problem with the series is that it basically ignores the main characters for like an entire volume or two. Overall the cast is too large too and despite spending volumes on side characters it still feels like a lot of the cast isn't as fleshed out as they should be. People just seem to dislike drama. And yet I also see people say something is boring because nothing ever happens.
>>281628422
This is nothing like the "the mangaka hated the adaptation". In fact it sounds like she understood that anime adaptations will always going to be different than their source and so accepted them doing whatever they saw fit.
>>281629835
Probably not. I don't recall any of that in Tokimeki Tonight for instance. One of the side character couples in KareKano though are non-blood related but their parents marry iirc. Some people would see problems with that.
Anonymous No.281630705 [Report] >>281630885
>>281629835
Most shoujo manga are. The pedo/incest stuff people shitpost about here are a small minority niche just like regular lolicons and incestfags are. They obviously still get stuff that panders to them, but it's not ubiquitous.
Anonymous No.281630885 [Report] >>281631053 >>281653770
>>281630705
>pedo/incest
>small minority in shoujo

- Sailor Moon
- Cardcaptor Sakura
- Utena
- Full Moon O Sagashite
- Fruits Basket
- Kodocha
- Vampire Knight
- Marmalade Boy
- Usagi Drop
- Ceres Celestial Legend
- Please Save My Earth
Anonymous No.281631053 [Report] >>281632085 >>281632750 >>281653770
>>281630885
>11 shoujo manga
A drop in the bucket. Plus iirc they're not actually blood related in Marmalade Boy. Unless you're calling the teacher x high school student relationship "pedophilia". Are you the same person always obsessing over Fruits Basket too?
Anonymous No.281631468 [Report]
>>281621687 (OP)
Greatest love story ever told
Anonymous No.281631673 [Report] >>281640229
I wonder what having a gf feels like. I bet its nice
Anonymous No.281632085 [Report] >>281632190
>>281631053
>Plus iirc they're not actually blood related in Marmalade Boy. Unless you're calling the teacher x high school student relationship "pedophilia".
Yeah I meant the student/teacher grooming relationship for Marmalade Boy, not any incest.

>Are you the same person always obsessing over Fruits Basket too?
Not sure, QRD?
Anonymous No.281632190 [Report] >>281632366 >>281633312 >>281634036 >>281634777 >>281636960 >>281637401 >>281643602 >>281646702 >>281647652 >>281653770
>>281632085
>Yeah I meant the student/teacher grooming relationship for Marmalade Boy, not any incest.
I think it's kind of sad to prevent younger people from being able to be in relationships with older people honestly. I know there should be some cutoff, and there currently is, but everything being "grooming" is reductive imo.

>Not sure, QRD?
There's some guy that any time Fruits Basket is brought up they laser focus on Akito's mom saying she was jealous of her daughter's relationship with the dad. Basically taking a crazy character's thinking she's being cucked by her daughter as actual incest. Completely disregarding a piece of media because it contains even a reference to age gap romance or incest is retarded imo.
Anonymous No.281632366 [Report] >>281637401
>>281632190
>There's some guy that any time Fruits Basket is brought up they laser focus on Akito's mom saying she was jealous of her daughter's relationship with the dad. Basically taking a crazy character's thinking she's being cucked by her daughter as actual incest. Completely disregarding a piece of media because it contains even a reference to age gap romance or incest is retarded imo.
NTA, but jesus… what are these types even doing watching anime/reading manga if they can’t even handle a mere allusion to the topics of age gaps and incest? I want all tourists to leave, they have their western capeshit if they need a safe space free from the “evils” of their fictional pedo and incest bogeymans.
Anonymous No.281632750 [Report] >>281634036 >>281638815
>>281631053
If you see something obsessively complaining that Japanese media promotes pedophilia and incest, it's probably the same person.
Anonymous No.281633312 [Report] >>281633758
>>281632190
>Basically taking a crazy character's thinking she's being cucked by her daughter as actual incest.
I mean… That is a pretty weird plot to come up with in the first place, reminds me of how they also used that same trope in Sailor Moon with Usagi also afraid she’s going to get cucked by her future daughter. What is it with nips and this specific trope?
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Anonymous No.281633758 [Report] >>281634036 >>281634854
>>281633312
I don't think a woman being insecure about essentially a younger version of herself is strange at all. The main thing typically argued is that this is a uniquely Japanese thing, but I doubt it. I don't have any examples of it in western media off the top of my head but I'm sure it exists.
Anonymous No.281634036 [Report] >>281637401
>>281632750
>Japanese media promotes pedophilia and incest
It does though, that’s why it’s based and why normalfag tourists who can’t tell the difference between fiction and reality need to stay out.

>>281633758
>I don't think a woman being insecure about essentially a younger version of herself is strange at all. The main thing typically argued is that this is a uniquely Japanese thing, but I doubt it. I don't have any examples of it in western media off the top of my head but I'm sure it exists.
Didn’t the west pretty much invent the terms “Electra/Oedipus Complex?” Incest used be many a theme in alot of the great literary classics and gothic novels, the only reason the west shies away from the topic today is because of retarded puritan zoomers like >>281632190 mentioned that clutch their pearls at even the slightest mention of incest.
Anonymous No.281634777 [Report]
>>281632190
>Completely disregarding a piece of media because it contains even a reference to age gap romance or incest is retarded
Oh yeah? Explain Payment Processing Servers then
Anonymous No.281634836 [Report] >>281635080 >>281635148 >>281636960 >>281641278 >>281645133
>>281629835
Asaba hook up with Yukino's daughter. That's pretty pedophilic. Also Maho has a 28 years old dentist boyfriend whil she's in high school
Anonymous No.281634854 [Report] >>281635471
>>281633758
Snow White is pretty much about the female anxiety of being replaced by her daughter. Reminder that in the oldest versions of the tale, the queen isn't Snow White's stepmother but her real mother
Anonymous No.281634886 [Report] >>281640246 >>281654889 >>281656191
>>281621687 (OP)
All I know about that series is that he tickles for bare feet for a few seconds
Anonymous No.281634939 [Report] >>281650893
>>281622670
I love the ending. Especially how in the first episodes, it's a solo by Yukino's VA. Then after she starts dating Arima, Arima's VA joins making it a duet.
https://v.animethemes.moe/Karekano-ED2v3.webm
Anonymous No.281634973 [Report] >>281650918
When the torrent description goes this in depth, you know you're working with quality and passion
https://nyaa.si/view/1215716
Anonymous No.281635080 [Report] >>281635203 >>281644930
>>281634836
>anime never got to this part
Yikes! Anno dodged a bullet and ended up making his version the superior Kare Kano, just like we can all agree the Usagi Drop anime is also the superior and only version.

He’s still on thin ice for what he did to Marie in Nadia though…
Anonymous No.281635148 [Report] >>281650947
>>281634836
Why would you not have a gf in high school if you were a 28yo dentist chad?
Anonymous No.281635203 [Report] >>281635294 >>281644930
>>281635080
To be fair, Anno was depressed during Nadia and frustrated for not being able to control Noriko Hidaka.
Anonymous No.281635294 [Report] >>281644828 >>281644930
>>281635203
Wouldn’t be surprised if the Samson grooming Marie thing was from Miyazaki’s original draft that he tried to get his good buddy Anno to pass off as his idea to hide how much of a lolicon we all know him to be thanks to that little Freudian Slip of a drunken tirade of his, kek.
Anonymous No.281635342 [Report] >>281650967
The english dub was pretty good and the OST
Anonymous No.281635471 [Report]
>>281634854
>Snow White is pretty much about the female anxiety of being replaced by her daughter. Reminder that in the oldest versions of the tale, the queen isn't Snow White's stepmother but her real mother
Okay but like isn’t the father still dead even in the old versions where the Evil Queen is her actual mother? So in that case she’s more worried about any potential new suitors preferring her younger daughter over her rather than actual incest shit right?
Anonymous No.281635604 [Report] >>281638432
>>281621687 (OP)
I always wonder what kind of people call it "the best romance".
Eva/Annofags? "Old good new bad"fags? People who just hate romance but need an "approved" example to shit on other shows?
It's far from best shoujo, it's far from best romance. It wasn't even the best romance show at the time it was released. It just doesn't excel in anything.
Anonymous No.281636960 [Report] >>281642632
>>281632190
>>281634836
This is why Texas is banning anime come September by the way
Anonymous No.281637308 [Report] >>281640049
>>281623113
>specially strange when the anime is unfinished (which they usually are) and falls apart at the end like the Kare Kano anime.

Gee, why the fuck do you think it's unfinished and falls apart at the end? I wonder why the anime feels half done hmmmmmm. It couldn't have been some sort of thing caused by an event from a butthurt author now could it???
Anonymous No.281637401 [Report] >>281653770
>>281632190
>Completely disregarding a piece of media because it contains even a reference to age gap romance or incest is retarded imo.
They’re unironically right to do so, otherwise they’ll eventually be groomed into pedo weeb trannies, as demonstrated by anons such as >>281632366 >>281634036 these who call any normal watcher who just prefers not have any degenerate pedo shit or incest in the anime that they watch “tourists.”

Are us shonenchads who only watch stuff like DBZ suddenly “tourists” just because we refuse to watch otaku pandering slop? Even though /dbs/ is one of the mainstays and pillars of /a/?
Anonymous No.281638432 [Report] >>281640094
>>281635604
>It's far from best shoujo
…Which is what according to you?
Anonymous No.281638815 [Report]
>>281632750
>If you see something obsessively complaining that Japanese media promotes pedophilia and incest, it's probably the same person.
So all normalfags then?
Anonymous No.281640049 [Report]
>>281637308
>blaming others for Anno's incompetence
The same shit happened with Nadia and Eva.
Anonymous No.281640094 [Report] >>281646702
>>281638432
Not him but Ouran, Tokimeki Tonight, and Fruits Basket are my favorites.
Anonymous No.281640175 [Report]
>>281629373
Wow dude, blue board!
Anonymous No.281640229 [Report]
>>281631673
And imagine having one like Yukino, it would like a daily rollercoaster
Anonymous No.281640246 [Report]
>>281634886
He does. Episode 8 I think
Anonymous No.281640363 [Report]
i love Yukino's family, they are always a good laugh
Anonymous No.281640810 [Report]
>>281621687 (OP)
YuKINO
Anonymous No.281641269 [Report]
>>281621687 (OP)
KINOKANO
Anonymous No.281641278 [Report]
>>281634836
>Asaba hook up with Yukino's daughter.
WHAT? That's some Woody Allan shit
Anonymous No.281642602 [Report] >>281643113 >>281651042
all the girls in this series are FLAT
Anonymous No.281642632 [Report]
>>281636960
will the backlash be as great as when Texas banned instragram filters?
Anonymous No.281642851 [Report] >>281652253
>>281629373
Was it a coincidense that Arima looks like a chad version of Shinji and that Anno worked on this?
Anonymous No.281643113 [Report] >>281643248
>>281642602
Your post:
Anonymous No.281643160 [Report]
>>281629373
one of the best end of episode EVER
Anonymous No.281643227 [Report] >>281643648
>>281621687 (OP)
I remember in 2003, in my shitty third world country, while I was at uni, I went to an "anime gathering" and there was a stall of "pirate" anime VCD, not even DVD, and me and my brother asked the smug seller, is there anything form the dudes that made EVA? the seller told us of this ans FLCL.
We never saw that seller again, we wonder if he was an angel or a devil, but it was brilliant
Anonymous No.281643248 [Report] >>281643296
>>281643113
i-i didn't s-say it was a b-ba-bad thing!
Anonymous No.281643296 [Report] >>281643628
>>281643248
Too late.
Anonymous No.281643602 [Report]
>>281632190
Love Yukino's dad, kek
Anonymous No.281643628 [Report]
>>281643296
fuuuuug
Anonymous No.281643648 [Report] >>281643909
>>281643227
>anything form the dudes that made EVA? the seller told us of this ans FLCL.
i was thinking "did Anno work on FLCL??" and then i realized he meant Gainax, lel
Anonymous No.281643909 [Report]
>>281643648
>did Anno work on FLCL?
he was the cat voice
Anonymous No.281644828 [Report] >>281644930
>>281635294
Miyazaki had zero participation in Nadia besides the original concept
Anonymous No.281644930 [Report]
>>281635203
>>281635294
>>281644828
>>281635080
Could someone explain me what the fug happened with Nadia? i didn't watch that one
Anonymous No.281645133 [Report]
>>281634836
>Asaba hook up with Yukino's daughter. That's pretty pedophilic.
Also incestual because Asaba was like a second father to Yukino's children
Anonymous No.281646702 [Report] >>281646919
>>281640094
>Fruits Basket
Isn’t that the one that has the plot of a jealous mother unironically worried her daughter will cuck her out of her husband as described here >>281632190 How could something with such an absurd incest-pandering plot ever be better than based Kare Kino?
Anonymous No.281646919 [Report] >>281647169
>>281646702
Better characters, character arcs, and general story. Calling something bad just because it offends you makes you look stupid. And at the same time, the KareKano manga gets similar treatment for having things that offends people.
Anonymous No.281647169 [Report] >>281647217
>>281646919
>And at the same time, the KareKano manga gets similar treatment for having things that offends people.
Thankfully I was only talking about the anime, which never got to that part. also I never read the manga anyways
Anonymous No.281647217 [Report] >>281647290
>>281647169
I don't make my opinions off of unfinished anime fanfiction.
Anonymous No.281647290 [Report] >>281647496
>>281647217
Shut up Masami Tsuda, Anno will always be better than (You).

Also oftentimes the fanfiction is better than the original, see also the Usagi Drop anime vs the manga.
Anonymous No.281647308 [Report] >>281647414 >>281648575
>>281629373
How could a deranged schizo like Anno could direct a love scene better than most females?
Anonymous No.281647414 [Report]
>>281647308
people understimate schizos, i learnt my lesson
Anonymous No.281647496 [Report]
>>281647290
>oftentimes
It's possible but in my experience not common. I haven't read or watched Usagi Drop but from my understanding the "want to marry my foster dad" thing is not the only thing that goes downhill in the latter part of that manga, but it is the only thing people ever bring up, which just comes off as being fragile retards. And if the only reason your anime adaptation is better is because it cuts off before the stuff you don't like, you could always just stop reading the manga at a certain point and have the same experience.
Anonymous No.281647652 [Report] >>281647682 >>281647842 >>281649581
>>281632190
>Completely disregarding a piece of media because it contains even a reference to age gap romance or incest is retarded imo.
No, I think it’s actually pretty smart. Accepting anything and everything all in the name of “fiction” is how movements based on abnormal attractions like the LGBT or “MAPs” get their foot in the door, it’s also why East Asia is considered a modern day Sodom and Gemorah that the Bible warned us about compared to the sexually civilized West.

And no, obvious secret weeb lolicons like Epstein and everyone on his list don’t count. They were groomed into it by Japan and anime, normal people who avoid anime other than the most mainstream of battle shonen never into pedo diddy ahhh bluds.
Anonymous No.281647682 [Report] >>281647842
>>281647652
>normal people who avoid anime other than the most mainstream of battle shonen never into pedo diddy ahhh bluds.
*turn into pedo diddy ahhh bluds
Anonymous No.281647842 [Report]
>>281647682
>>281647652
i know that in modern internet speech "ahh" means ass (for some reason saying ass is not allowed no more? but what is "blud" supposed to mean?
Anonymous No.281648575 [Report]
>>281647308
high functioning Anno does it again
Anonymous No.281649581 [Report]
>>281647652
>obvious secret weeb lolicons like Epstein and everyone on his list don’t count.
lol. Reminded me about Osama Bin Laden having anime in his harddrive
Anonymous No.281650748 [Report]
>>281621687 (OP)
kinokino
Anonymous No.281650893 [Report]
>>281634939
i noticed that too, pretty cool.
Anonymous No.281650918 [Report]
>>281634973
the least dedicated /t/ pirate
Anonymous No.281650947 [Report]
>>281635148
because you weren't a dentist in highchool
Anonymous No.281650967 [Report]
>>281635342
>The english dub was pretty good
i agree, Arima was a little weak at first but he gets better
Anonymous No.281651042 [Report]
>>281642602
they all pretty much have the same body type, some a little taller some a little shorter. it's refreshing in a way
Anonymous No.281651148 [Report]
>>281629373
Anno was coming fresh out of The End of Evangelion and then makes this
Anonymous No.281651893 [Report] >>281652494
>zero good Yukino porn
What's even the point of living
Anonymous No.281652038 [Report] >>281652576
>>281621687 (OP)
Anonymous No.281652253 [Report] >>281652517
>>281642851
And Yukino looks like short-haired Asuka. Same attention whoring but without the mental illness
Anonymous No.281652494 [Report]
>>281651893
Yukino is not for lewding
Anonymous No.281652517 [Report]
>>281652253
>And Yukino looks like short-haired Asuka
I don't really see it
Anonymous No.281652576 [Report]
>>281652038
>Asuka and Kaworu
That pairing would make like 60% of Eva fans mad
Anonymous No.281653283 [Report]
>>281629373
What surprise me is how good the scene is and it has almost no animation, is barely sliding frames and transitions with voice over and music but its so kino
Anonymous No.281653626 [Report]
I'll hate the anime for never finishing the school festival arc. Steel Snow kino never
Anonymous No.281653770 [Report] >>281654251
>>281630885
>>281631053
>>281632190
>>281637401
Women like older men why is this so hard for people to get it’s why they write stories about it. Shoujo fans and normies feel like they actually hate the concept of shoujo and only say they like it because it makes them look good.
Anonymous No.281654251 [Report] >>281654824
>>281653770
>Women like older men
They don’t like their fathers though.
Anonymous No.281654824 [Report]
>>281654251
Something something Freud
Anonymous No.281654889 [Report] >>281656191
>>281634886
Indeed
Anonymous No.281656191 [Report] >>281656361
>>281634886
>>281654889
Girls' feet are sensitive. It's an erogenous zone.
Anonymous No.281656361 [Report]
>>281656191
So if your rub them well they get horny?