I remember having watched it as a kid. I was so mad he has lost after winning against Gary. I can understand why he has lost Indigo league but here they should have make him won that league and then change the MC for Hoenn seasons.
Would have been better if he had evolved starters.
>>281653229 (OP)
After sitting on this for years, why would Ash even win? He doesn't really do that much training, nor does he have efficiency autism. He has no special skills aside from eternal life.
>>281653229 (OP) >T-to be a master is my dream... all I've got to do is believe...
It was always funny as a kid when the dub openings for the leagues had lyrics to hype up Ash only for him to lose. >I'm unbeatable
>>281653229 (OP) >attends a tournament exclusively for trainers experienced enough to have beaten every gym leader in johto >brings a fucking totodile
Shit like this is why I dropped the anime when I was 11 or so.
>>281653568
He's not the only one that does this and it worked better for the guy who won in Hoenn who used a Meowth cosplaying as puss in boots or the guy who won in Unova using a regular Eevee and a team of eeveelutions.
>>281653229 (OP)
And Ash used three of his best pokemons in the entire series. This shit made no fucking sense. Pikachu, Charizard and Snorlax could each solo a legendary. Better than that, only if Ash also had Heracross, Primape and maybe Dracovish? Kingler is also a boss, Bulbasaur could fit in too
>>281654300
I just finished the original series (I,e. up to the end of johto), only recommend if you're attached to the series already. On its own terms I give it a 4/10 (kanto and orange islands 5/10). But I heard sun and moon is legit good so I'm watching all of it.
The movies and pikachu specials are actually worth watching, they are filled with great animation
>>281654475 >But I heard sun and moon is legit good so I'm watching all of it.
Yeah I guess that's the other things I was wondering about. I have heard that XY is good and that SuMo is very different but also good, so maybe it's better to just skip to one of those.
>>281653568
What makes this worse is that a COTD around 10 episodes prior was telling Ash he was desperate for his Magby to evolve in time for the league, since a prevo "wouldn't last half a round".
>>281653568
What makes this worse is that a COTD around 10 episodes prior was telling Ash he was desperate for his Magby to evolve in time for the league, since a prevo "wouldn't last half a round".
>>281654562 >>281654383
He used it like one fucking time in a filler tournament against a bunch of nobodies and then abandoned it forever.
You can't actually unironically be saying you think that puts it on par with his pokemon who have beaten legendaries or the ace pokemon of gym leaders, frontier brains or champions.
>>281654183
Blaziken has the advantage of being a brand new shillmon in a generation that was just then released. Nothing Ash could have done would have mattered unless he had also caught a Hoenn mon.
>>281653342
He has no character growth in all those episodes. All they did was fight Team Rocket and do mon of the day missions. He should have had all his growth leading up through the 8 gyms and been ready for the League. The Johto season should have been him being more mature and stronger than all others and even having an understudy. He would repeat season 1 and then win the league a second time then retiring.
>>281656215
porygon episode ruined everything; the original plan was entirely up to the animation staff and after the day of seizures they lost creative freedom which is why primape disappeared.
>>281656292
I know that things were different in the 90s, but surely there was at least one staff member who thought that maybe full screen seizure lights weren't such a great idea?
>>281654664 >puts it on par with his pokemon who have beaten legendaries or the ace pokemon of gym leaders
Never said that. But those are Pikachu and Charizard only. You can't count Sceptile because you know that was bs and Heracross was the one who won that fight. Every other Ash shillmon was a jobber
>>281657154 >Never said that.
Well you were clearly trying to say something. I don't know if you're the guy who said "it never jobbed" or "it won a tournament by itself" but both seemed to be trying to argue why Primeape is somehow one of Ashs top 6 pokemon of all time based on a tiny number of shallow victories against unremarkable enemies. Neither argument puts Primeape anywhere near the top of Ashs roster.
when I was a kid it pissed me off that Ash didn't get 5 badass pokemon all top evolution to be in his major tournament matches, Pikachu I can forgive but besides Charizard the rest were a bunch of jobbers that performed better than they should have depending on the season
>>281653568
exactly thats the essence of why pokemon is gay, those shitters should be swapped for something like Tauros and Machamp or Magmar or Nidoqueen
Charizard and Snorlax would have to beat the whole team by themselves like they did against Gary but both were tired from literally carrying Ash shitters.
>>281659100
He won the league in SM and the Champion Tournament in the last season, but people found those tournaments kinda underwhelming compared to RS (where they had to bring a nigga with 6 legendries to take him down) and XY(Z), where he lost a fight he should've won against a shilled anime original character with a Mega Charizard X.
>>281653568
I was 8 years old when Pokemon started airing and the show was obviously kodomo retardation to me from day one.
Just wanted a straight adaptation of the games not the comedy for babies series it so clearly wanted to be from the pilot.
>>281659404
She literally caught her first Pokemon a couple of months before the league and it was her only Pokemon yet she still made it to top 16. How is that not a baby league?