Thread 281675892

Come on... deep down, don’t you feel like Light should’ve won? He was terrifyingly smart, always five moves ahead, and somehow made writing in a notebook feel like the most intense action scene ever. Sure, he went full god complex, but admit it, watching him outwit everyone was half the thrill. The guy practically earned his twisted victory.

And Giovanni? Seriously? This man just casually rewrites the entire Death Note in one night like it’s a school assignment due at 8 AM. Every rule, every creepy little detail, perfectly copied. No sleep, no mistakes, no complaints. Either he’s got the world's strongest espresso machine or he’s secretly a Shinigami intern. That scene was wild.

>>281675892 (OP)
Light should have been turned into a shinigami.

>>281675892 (OP)
The moment he started to use the Death Note he was guaranteed to fail - Ryuk saw to that. Light built himself up, but he, perhaps unconsciously or by manipulations of the other shinigami, sabotaged his own plans.

>>281675892 (OP)
No, he got help from 2 shinigami in a critical moment and also was killing innocents. His humilliating death was a good ending

No way, he was going to kill my boy Matsuda

>>281675892 (OP)
Light was a huge retard and deserved every bit of his loss. L should have won the moment Light was on a list of <100 people, let alone <10

How does Light even "win"? He didn't have a win condition. The manga makes it look like killing L is his win condition. Then he kills L and years pass by, crime rates are way down, wars are over... And Light hasn't yet "won".

Let's say he killed Near. Would he have won? Of course not, there will always be someone trying to kill Kira. He could be betrayed by his own allies at any point. It was always a matter of time.

>>281675892 (OP)
I think a timeline where he wins and enacts his plan, only to find it only makes everything worse because it's completely retarded, would have been a more satisfying direction for the story.

>>281677530
>>281675892 (OP)
Ryuk eventually would have gotten bored and killed him.

>>281677582
Ryuk is an immortal shinigami that has been alive for thousands or maybe even MILLIONS of years doing fuck nothing, how is he getting bored in a couple years from that? Only if he was an ADHD tard

>>281677533
His plan literally works he kinda achieves world peace

>>281675892 (OP)
No

>>281676547
>but he, perhaps unconsciously or by manipulations of the other shinigami, sabotaged his own plans.
How would he unconsciously ruin his plans? How would the other Shinagami manipulate him, without writing his name in the Death Note?

>>281677530
That's the whole point. Light had to die at some point. Or the moralistic ending would’ve been missing: where good triumphs and evil is defeated.

>>281677530
his win condition is crime being permanently eradicated

>>281678602
That's impossible though

>>281678602
That never would have happened. We already have the death penalty for certain crimes, yet people still commit those crimes, either because they assume they won't get caught or because they don't care if they live or die.

>>281675892 (OP)
At all steps, Light was foiled by his pride. That's one of the key themes of the story: pride leading to an unwillingness to bend or give in, and ultimately ends in breaking.
Light started off on the back foot because of his pride during the confrontation with L on tv. L died despite being sure Light was Kira because he refused to act on a hunch, no matter how strong, and that conviction led to Light outmaneuvering him via abusing the rules of the death note / shinigami. Light could've continued acting as Kira with a headless task force, but ended up making enemies of the SPK by acting as the new L. Even toward the end, Light and Mikami were convinced they had a perfect system, and it was through that 'certainty' that N and Gevanni had the chance to make a move.
It's the turnabout of this pride that provides the catharsis at the end of the story. Light, this man with godlike delusions reduced to a crying begging mess.

>>281675892 (OP)
Like Jesus Light was too good for this corrupt world.

>>281679183
>Light could've continued acting as Kira with a headless task force, but ended up making enemies of the SPK by acting as the new L.
I thought all the taskforce told him to do that?

>>281675892 (OP)
Light isn’t infallible. The notebook thing and trusting allies less smarter and weaker was all on him. He only has himself to blame for his failure and in the end didn’t deserve a victory.

>>281679502
>I thought all the taskforce told him to do that?
Its what L wanted, he checkmated Light by putting him there so his successors would find him exactly where L placed him. Had the task force broken up Near and Mellow would never have been able to find Light.

>>281679626
He'd have to kill his father eventually. That's the only way to rationalize Light remaining so exposed as part of the task force that tracked Kira and ended up so exposed the leader, L, got killed by Kira.

>>281675892 (OP)
Nah, he made a deal with the devil for no reason. He even intentionally drew negative attention to himself so he could morally justify killing agents of the law. After all, killing law enforcers that want to prosecute you in a court of law is self-defense, r-right?

>>281675892 (OP)
He shouldn't have ate that potato chip

>>281675892 (OP)
Yeah I will say his plan was better than Near's bullshit. I'm still glad he lost, the anime softened it up too much.

>>281675892 (OP)
It should've been a draw between L and Light. Basically the 2006 live action ending.

>>281679962
That was an L victory, not a draw.

>>281680169
He still need to die for his plan to succeed so it's not a perfect win. But I guess it's true that L got the upper hand.