Thread 281690865

Why do we never get good anime that are a celebration of otaku culture anymore? Stories that glorify maid cafes, or chuuni, or channer isms. Anything that does this now is guaranteed to be some isekai slop.

>>281690865 (OP)
Zoomers don't care about otaku culture as a thing to idealize. They just watch the anime and then move on to something else.

>>281690865 (OP)
I would say there's no point anymore.
Those series in the past had a reason to exist because anime and manga were considered things of Otakus and Otakus were considered the scum of society.
...but these days anime and manga are widely consumed by normies so it feels unnecessary.

>>281690979
Exactly, it's all just trendhopping and tiktok trends.
Even a bunch of people who go to cons these days basicly just sit around on their phones.
We will never get something like Genshiken again

>>281690865 (OP)
I wouldn't even call Steins;Gate a good anime and the excess of pandering is one of the things I didn't like about it.
It's not like I don't also enjoy otaku culture but being excessively proud of it to the point of saying meme phrases in real life is just stupid.

>>281690865 (OP)
Fuck, why is steins gate not rewatchable

>>281690865 (OP)
Megumin is an explicit chuuni.
>B-but I said no iseakai slo-
Don't care.

>>281691265
How is it not?

>>281690865 (OP)
Does anyone still give a shit about maid cafes in 2025?

>>281690979
One major thing about zoomers is that they are OBSESSED with being ironic because they are too afraid to be genuine about fucking anything.

Celebrating otaku culture is definitely not something they would spearhead since meta ironic anime commentary is really popular with them.

>>281690865 (OP)
It’s the ultimate effect of the subculture going mainstream, which is also paradoxically part of why the originally negative label otaku was taken up as self-identification. It’s been successfully asserted that the stereotypes are untrue and it’s not abnormal to like anime, that otaku are just regular humans. The less aversion to otaku there is, the less a sense of that identity there can be except in a historical and folkloric way. The dissolution of “otaku” was one of the original motivations driving the subculture, just as much as trying to adhere to a negative image to draw a division and maintain exclusivity as a subculture.

>>281691300
Konosuba is a perfect example though just because you can directly compare Kazuma to traditional otaku depictions as an updated form. You can see where he gets pulled in mainstream directions.

>>281690865 (OP)
>good anime
>Steins;Gate

>>281690865 (OP)
Magical Destroyers attempted that, but it wasn't well-received. There was also Akiba Maid War, which had a way more positive reception.

>>281691618
It's still one of the best anime around even now.

>>281691648
>Akiba Maid War, which had a way more positive reception.
I mean, on /a/ sure. Nips? not so much sadly....

>>281691715
True, but the OP didn't mention if it was popular or not, just any good recent anime that is a celebration of otaku culture.

>>281691648
Nobody knows or cares about either of those shows. That's a long way down from the days of S;G and Lucky Star.

>>281690865 (OP)
There are only so many ways you can insert a maid cafe or 4chan memes into your story. It's not exactly a common thing.

>>281690865 (OP)
Akiba Maid War
16 Bit Sensation

>>281690865 (OP)
We have them, but they're not popular.

>>281691702
I disagree.

>>281690865 (OP)
Because otaku culture is annoying

>>281691918
Again, OP never mentioned popular shows.

>>281691547
>One major thing about zoomers is that they are OBSESSED with being ironic because they are too afraid to be genuine about fucking anything.
This

>>281692324
It's not just popularity. I think comparing the quality of Akiba maid war to SG and Lucky Star speaks for itself, otaku stories are clearly dying.

>>281691047
This is the same reason why being a "gamer" is no longer much of a thing anymore. Now that video games are mainstream there isn't as much of a point to making it your identity.

>>281692438
Like many have said, otaku culture as it was known in the 90s and 2000s is long gone nowadays, so stuff like Steins;Gate is not as relevant as when it aired. You may get something like Akiba Maid War (that I personally enjoyed) every new moon, but just that.

>>281691702
S;G got surpassed by Penguindrum even in its own year.

>>281691158
Zoomers are not entitled to an opinion, sweaty

>>281692022
Yeah both of those were fun seasonals to watch

>>281690865 (OP)
Why can't people just watch otakushit? Why do you need to create and glorify a culture around it?

>>281691300
Isekai shit doesn't count.

>>281691796
>>281692071
Yep.

>>281690865 (OP)
I never understood the appeal of S;G. People have already posted some good seasonals that also have otaku elements in them and I wouldn't put S;G above those quality-wise anyways, so I don't get the complaints.

>>281693007
I want newfags out, now.

>>281693257
Can you really not tell at a glance how superior the art, composition, and storyboarding in S;G are? OST, themes, VA performances, sfx, all steps above average and remembered fondly. Even without getting into the narrative, the characters, and the metanarratives it should be obvious why S;G is well regarded.

>>281693464
>the narrative, the characters, and the metanarratives
I did not like any of these. The characters were lame and the time travel finale of the MC going back to the beginning and running around in the background has been done so many times already, I was disappointed when that's all it ended up being.

>>281693464
The characters are the most overrated thing about Steins;Gate. I can't believe so many retards think those bums are some of the best characters anime has to offer.

>>281693736
Yeah it seems you have terminal contrarian shit taste so it would make sense you can’t understand the appeal of something great

>>281693871
There is not great about what I watched there. Not going to bother with S;G0.

>>281693007
art and culture are one and the same, idiot

>>281693937
nothing great*

>>281693937
Don’t bother coming back to /a/ either, tourist

>>281693983
Steins;Gate is an /a/ show the same way that Naruto is "/a/". Just a cancer that exists on the board but doesn't actually belong there.

>>281690865 (OP)
Just go back and watch the Haruhi dance ED again if you're feeling nostalgic. What's with all this old good new bad bullshit.

>>281691715
Nah, it did pretty good for a seasonal original IP. You can compare it favorably even to continuing novel series that had seasonal adaptations.

>>281694056
No one cares what you tourists think.
/a/ is the board where you found an entire collage of people posting Dr Pepper next to monitors and Kurisu figures. The board where S;G threads continued nonstop for months after the airing in order to spread audio drama translations, the extra VN, etc.

You instantly out yourself as a poser if you badmouth S;G lol

>>281690865 (OP)
anime grew up

>>281690865 (OP)
Because of normies. Normies don't understand otaku culture and they want everything targeted to them.

The disillusionment of otakudom has been a thing since Eva. It just finally caught up on a large scale.

>>281690865 (OP)
>Reddit;Gate
>good
lol

>>281690865 (OP)
Otaku culture isn't hip because it's mainstream now

>>281694203
>You instantly out yourself as a poser if you badmouth S;G lol
Don't care, that shit isn't a masterpiece no matter how much you and the other fanboys on the board say it is.

>>281690865 (OP)
Anon you are a decrepit Boomer, sorry you had to find this out the hard way.

>>281694399
It’s not that they want everything to be targeted to them so much as they only respond to things that are so targeted, thus the profit motive inevitably shifts production toward that end. All sorts of aspects of otaku subculture continue to remain relevant, perhaps the clearest example being the occult. This even extends into the use of magical realist elements, such as is so popular in Japanese fiction overall. Dandadan is an obvious descendant of classic works with timeless tropes like the UFO obsessed nerd and tests of courage in the abandoned tunnel and hospital. But that series and the steady flow of Shinkai films and the lesser “semi-spiritualist trauma healing stories” all demonstrate the actual driving force of the industry: getting every young person possible in a seat. That’s also evident in the accelerating trend of doing theatrical releases for TV shows which is saturating the US too at this point.

>>281694817
Being able to recognize S;G as a masterpiece and articulate why is something like a bare minimum for having an opinion on any other subject taken seriously. It’s just like the people who try to shit on NGE and Anno when the actual bar for being considered worthy of posting here is being able to produce a defense of the show as a phenomenal accomplishment going through many elements of its craftsmanship to demonstrate your point while offering a diatribe on your favorite girl.

If someone says something like “the characters are lame” about S;G there’s really nothing else to do but laugh at them for knowing nothing and being an asshole.

>>281694203
S;G fags that think a collage of Dr. Peppers is the peak of this website's culture are fucking cringe.

>>281691068
>plscareaboutmyarchaicmillenialtrends
Fuck off faggot, go play marioslop on your heccin switcherino

>>281690865 (OP)
Maybe all the western money thats been slowly funneling into the anime industry

>>281695547
The fact that you instinctively refer to things as trends says more about you zoomers than anything.

>>281694203
>You instantly out yourself as a poser if you badmouth this 6/10 anime
Okay.

>>281695540
SG fans are completely delusional about the quality of their series.

>>281690865 (OP)
I have no interesting in ever going to a maid cafe.

>>281695540
I think zoomers judging anything about this website is gay

>>281691300
Konosuba is from 2013, the world has changed a lot since then.

>>281690865 (OP)
Pic related only came out in 2022

>>281696343
I'm glad that people still remember the maids.

>>281696676
Would never forget them.

>>281696263
Konosuba was 2016, still a awhile ago now but not that long.

>>281697130
The LNs are from 2013

>>281695653
>reply to post talking about "trends"
>instinctively
The fact that you can't read shows that you are part of the mentally degraded generation referred to, by the others, as "millenial".
Better stick to nintendo artbooks instead of forcing yourself to decypher this zoomer invention known as "words".

>>281693851
S;G would've been better if they had worked on developing its characters more instead of just having them say some chan memes and then expecting me to care about them.

>>281697311
Chase more trends

Dandadan is nothing but a love letter to otaku culture and is currently one of most popular anime airing.

Literally what the fuck are you talking about?

>>281697536
Dandadan is fotm garbage. Nothing like SG or older otaku anime at all.

>>281690865 (OP)
If an anime contains "channer isms" that makes me respect the show less, not more.

>>281690865 (OP)
Otaku culture is a uniquely 00s and 10s thing. That shit doesn't last for longer than a generation.

>>281690865 (OP)
>maid cafes, or chuuni, or channer isms
This season

>>281690865 (OP)
Maybe you should post a good anime first.

Call of the Night explained it well during its second season. Anime nowadays it's so mainstream that the things that were associated with the loser otaku stereotype are now enjoyed by your average Joe, so the culture is practically gone.

>>281691547
>too afraid
I'd posit it's an inability more than fear. They're raised without strong father figures to ground them in fundamental truths and instead adhere the relativity single mothers hold ('don't do bad things' but 'we do what we can to survive') on top of just being you know, w*men in general.
Add to that lack of any religious foundation (agonistic theist by default), any cultural foundation (no attachment to your 2 disparate races), any familial or community foundation (ostracized by family, hates their country) - all while slurping down media that teaches them nothing is concrete, everything changes, your future is fucked
Yeah no wonder why they can't be genuine - they don't even understand what genuine means.
I'll go back now

>>281690865 (OP)
>good anime that are a celebration of otaku culture anymore
gonna guess you are aware your pic is unrelated
reddit gate is a celebration of ironic weeb niggery, not of proper otaku culture
you have to go all the way back to lucky star for something of the sort

>>281693937
same, I thought s;g was okay. Didn't make me interested in picking the VN and DEFINITELY not s;g0. I don't hate it or anything, it was just okay ig. Kurisu and Ruka were the best things about it.