Thread 281700068

What's behind the downfall of mecha anime?

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>>281700068 (OP)
otakus and fujos

>>281700107
Otaku and fujos are the reasons mecha was big in the first place

The only good mecha anime were made by Sunrise and mostly only the ones created by Tomino.

>>281700068 (OP)
Kids nowadays would rather be trannies instead of watching cool giant robots.

>>281700068 (OP)
Last two or three gundam shows I’ve peeked had female leads. Which I ignore upon recognition since 2020. Maybe others are doing the same?

The only good mecha anime were made by Sunrise but not created by Tomino.

>>281700392
based Dougram fan

>>281700068 (OP)
I wonder

>>281700068 (OP)
I blame all the shit recent shows. New Code Geass, Grendizer, Aquarion, Gqundam, all sucking is sad. Mecha is still less dead than some genres like battleharems. I remember that Sunrise mentioned there being a lack of staff who can animate mecha, hence all the 12 episodes rush jobs.

>>281700297
Faggots need not tune in

>>281700068 (OP)
A loss of interest in sci-fi anime in general.

>>281700068 (OP)
the future is turning out to be stupid and gay so more people are falling into otherworldly escapism instead of futuristic wars with commentary on the human condition

>>281700068 (OP)
Yuri

>>281700068 (OP)
Little kids don't care about robots anymore, especially when they're mostly just dramas with female leads. The primary gundam audience is like 50 years old now and dying out.

>>281700068 (OP)
It was bad genericslop

>>281700068 (OP)
UC boomers, Wing-00 Fujoshi and now WfM yurifags

>>281702349
also obviously bad mecha design.
GCucks design is ATROCIOUS

>>281700068 (OP)
human species has no future

Optism about the future is gone, humans will never leave this rock...

>>281700068 (OP)
Mecha, or sci-fi in general represents HOPE and OPTIMISM for the future. everyone is hopeless nowadays. there's no future. just slow decline until eventual doom.

>>281700068 (OP)
They were always shows for children. Children now want to watch martial arts.

>>281702528
Maybe it's time for G Gundam reimagining. GX Gundam? AXZ Gundam? XV Gundam?

>>281700068 (OP)
Sci-fi requires a certain degree of hope to work, which people don't have anymore. New technologies come out and we get to see how they make our lives shitter.

>>281700068 (OP)
Space age optimism has died.

>>281700068 (OP)
Nobody has ever liked mecha.
>b-but
Nobody likes mecha, that's it.

can you imagine the general reception if a modern sci fi anime promotes this kind of value?

This was from 1996 and the idea of everyone in the world living and banding together was great back then. because people were optimistic about the humanity and the future, that everyone was nice and would get along with each other. But this very line has become the reality that a lot of people are living in or at least has observed through news/social media. and you know what? it sucks really bad.

We didn't expect that people are SO MUCH different from each other that trying to promote coexistence would just lead to destruction. There's no message that a sci-fi series can promote anymore. because the hope is all gone. Monokuma won.

>>281702057
This is actually the answer. The mid 20th century was defined by techno-optimism and scifi was super popular. By the 80s a lot of that optimism was ruined by the reality that much of what scifi offered simply wasn't possible, or probable considering how terrible people generally are.

>>281702739
sane, reasonable culture can't be a root cause of a big divide. which you could interpret as: some people aren't "different" in a way that you should tolerate, they're different in a barbaric way, demonstrating lack of tolerance and individual freedom.
even if barbarism is part of the "different" cultures, the problem is the lack of morality to make them step back and fix the culture themselves.

>>281702624
>>281702663
This, we used to image a cool future world of big robot suits. Now it seems more distant than Isekai

>>281700068 (OP)
Increased focus on established mecha franchises at the expense of new original IPs

Decline of Sci-fi culture in general

>>281700068 (OP)
Like all sci fi anime, cost. Good well detailed sci fi is hard to animate. Giant robot designs further complicates this.

>>281700392
based

>>281700068 (OP)
lack of artists. based on interviews, not a lot of modern anime artists can draw mecha and machinery.

>>281702739
People are not so different they're all garbage

>>281700068 (OP)
>downfall
>2025
It's reclining right now. Still not as massive as it was in the 80s/90s/00s, but better than the late 10s.

>>281700068 (OP)
Haruhi's success

>>281702739
Zoomers will never realize just how much optimism people had in the 20th century. The belief that a Star Trek space utopia with moon bases and nuclear powered space ships was just around the corner was like a religiously held dogma at the time, people just accepted it on faith as absolute fact. Back then there was still people old enough to remember a world where electricity and internal combustion engines barely existed. People just assumed that tech would continue to advance in leaps and bounds for transportation, medicine, electrical power production, etc. Now the only thing people believe, whether they’re religious or atheist or don’t care either way, is that life will continue to get worse as time goes on.

>>281700068 (OP)
Back then, people watched the moon landing on TV, the ISS being built, and all sorts of pioneering stuff. It sparked imaginations about space, the future, and building cool robots. There was a sense of ambition, wonder, and pushing boundaries.
Now people watching reality shows, youtubers, endless cape-shit, and isekai slop. Zero originality, zero vision, just recycled garbage spoon-fed to audiences who can’t tell the difference anymore.

>>281700068 (OP)
It was me. Sumanai.

Mecha was replaced with battle shounen in the mid 90s. That's it.

Always funny to see retards in these threads immediately jump to the culture war/politics explanation when the actual answer is always less interesting.

>>281700068 (OP)
Mecha is to anime what westerns are to film. They have been so done by so many studios that there isn't anywhere to really take them that isn't bizarre and outlandish.

>>281700068 (OP)
>What's behind the downfall of mecha anime?

Japs getting surpassed by China in robotics. Clearly Japs lost passion and is relying on nostalgia and crossovers. And here is the proof: >>281700128

Earth is just the grave of the human race

>>281700297
Chicks dig giant robots

>>281700068 (OP)
jews

>>281700068 (OP)
Good times popularized media that inspected our reality and its future via exploring the human condition and war. There was lots of optimism to go along with it, sure, but it was interwoven with its serious political inspection. This is where mecha excelled at.
Bad times popularize media focusing on escapist works that don't rely on introspection of our reality and the future it holds, because pointing it out when you're already stressed from real life further stresses people out. And don't even think about relating it to our politics, it sucks and it's everywhere, better to just tune it out from the medium. Mecha tends to not accomplish this.