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Anonymous No.281704111 >>281704202 >>281704449 >>281704512 >>281704565 >>281704610 >>281704614 >>281704902 >>281705262 >>281705315 >>281705321 >>281705405 >>281705682 >>281706666 >>281707043 >>281707266 >>281707599
I need the opposite of isekai, an anime where the protagonist is transported to a magical realm of suffering and loneliness and agony
Anonymous No.281704171 >>281704541
Ima soko ni iru boku
Kinda shinsekai yori
Anonymous No.281704198 >>281705251
Anonymous No.281704202 >>281704541 >>281704922 >>281705335
>>281704111 (OP)
>Now and Then, Here and There
Watched this one as a kid, fucked me up.
Anonymous No.281704449
>>281704111 (OP)
OP's life.
Anonymous No.281704512
>>281704111 (OP)
Literally hell
Anonymous No.281704541 >>281704868 >>281705002 >>281707289
>>281704171
>>281704202
isn't that the one where the girl gets raped by some ugly fucking dude?
Anonymous No.281704565 >>281704786 >>281705527
>>281704111 (OP)
This was the one episode I never really understood. Anyone wanna give it a try?
Anonymous No.281704610
>>281704111 (OP)
KamiKatsu.
Anonymous No.281704614
>>281704111 (OP)
Everything before SAO
Anonymous No.281704786 >>281705527
>>281704565
they were ghosts
Anonymous No.281704868
>>281704541
Yeah, mad max type world.
Types of rape, torture and rape
Anonymous No.281704902
>>281704111 (OP)
boku no pico
Anonymous No.281704922 >>281705303
>>281704202
I watched it as a younger teen and thought "wow this is so deep" but upon rewatch as an adult I found a lot of the characters and their choices infuriatingly stupid and it came off as shallow misery porn.
That said it is definitely the most pessimistic isekai I've seen.
Anonymous No.281704967
anyway need isekai to cyberpunk that somehow has more corporate tyranny than what we currently have
Anonymous No.281705002
>>281704541
The writers were partly inspired by the Rwandan genocide when they wrote it, so it's unsurprisingly bleak as fuck.
Anonymous No.281705251
>>281704198
this but unironically, just stop watching as soon as she gets on the train
Anonymous No.281705262 >>281705340
>>281704111 (OP)
Versus is currently ongoing

It's fucking AMAZING
Humans are completely powerless. Everything runs by just trying to survive the chaos and trying to make the predators hunt each other
Anonymous No.281705303 >>281705841
>>281704922
What was shallow or stupid about it?
What do you think about Sarah's decision?
Anonymous No.281705315 >>281705361
>>281704111 (OP)
i'm ok with suffering but it has to have a point

parallel it to our bullshit
actually use it to make the MC grow (none of that "suffering builds character" bullshit make him actually be a better person than he originally was)
or stick to the powerfantasy/wish fulfillment, have the MC become the hero the world needs or have them deliver all that he was given and rule over the world like a god.

making a "haha nerds don't deserve happiness" is pretty boring to anyone who doesn't specifically have a hateboner to nerds.
Anonymous No.281705321 >>281706766 >>281706807 >>281707316
>>281704111 (OP)
Grimdark is for people who would be better served in a factory.
Anonymous No.281705335
>>281704202
Was about to post this one. It wasn't amazing but it was certainly what OP's asking for.
Also the child rape is kinda hot if you're into that kinda thing I guess.
Anonymous No.281705340 >>281705618
>>281705262
>tfw being in a literal apocalypse where humanity no longer has any hope of survival will not stop our stupid powerleveling arguments

so who do you think will be the strongest natural enemy?
Anonymous No.281705361 >>281705406
>>281705315
>actually use it to make the MC grow (none of that "suffering builds character" bullshit make him actually be a better person than he originally was)
That's exactly what "suffering builds character" means you ape. Good fucking God some of you guys are retarded beyond belief
Anonymous No.281705405
>>281704111 (OP)
You mean getting out of the house? You can do that right now.
Anonymous No.281705406
>>281705361
Most of the times people say it when it doesn't even do that. You just get more violent and selfish assholes and they STILL say it's an improvement. I have long since relating the two concepts.
Anonymous No.281705527 >>281707289
>>281704565
>>281704786
>they were ghosts
Is a midwit interpretation.

Satoshi Kon (like a lot of Japanese) are very into Jungian psychology, and the themes are spread throughout his works.

The entire concept of Paranoia Agent centers around the Jungian concept of the collective unconscious in which the "unreal" is made real by everybody believing in it (in simple terms) which shouldn't taken much explanation in how it relates to the story as a whole.

Let's dive deeper now.
What is Shounen Bat, exactly? Well obviously he is what everyone wants him to be. But more direct to Jungs work he represents the archetype of change: The Magician.
These three are not ghosts. It makes zero sense why there would be fucking ghosts randomly in the story, and less sense why Shounen Bat would be running from them.
Until of course you realize they are also manifestations of the archetypes of humanity. >The Innocent
>The Sage
>The Rebel.
It was not by random intent that the middle aged guy was hinted to be gay. Kon's intent was to show that these three aspects of humanity are actively seeking change through death.
It is a commentary on Japan's suicide culture (with some more nuance, of course).

If you are wondering, we actually do meet the other archetypes throughout the show. The detectives wife who returns to meet him after her death represents the Caretaker, for example.

And Maromi is a Shadow. Yes the same type of Shadow from the Persona series, which borrows thematically from Jungian concepts.
Anonymous No.281705530 >>281705630
Shin Sekai Yori. It is the great filter.
Anonymous No.281705618
>>281705340
Either they kill off Parasite ASAP, or it will combine EVERYONE into a massive amalgamation

World Tree, Neo-Humans, Demon Lord, Titans, and Godzilla. Everything that is biological shall be unmade and remade anew.
All combined into a single Brethen Moon that would wipe out even the Aliens
Anonymous No.281705630
>>281705530
not isekai
Anonymous No.281705682 >>281705714
>>281704111 (OP)
It may not be misery porn all the time but I think pic rel had it pretty bad
Anonymous No.281705714
>>281705682
Oh it's misery alright
Misery to watch
Anonymous No.281705841 >>281706127 >>281707599
>>281705303
NTA but it's stupid as fuck that the "wise" grandma character tells off the guys trying to assassinate Hamdo because the cycle of violence or whatever but then when Hamdo does die it's portrayed as fixing everyone's problems instantly with no downside
Anonymous No.281706127 >>281707599
>>281705841
Also the adults shaming Sarah into keeping the rape baby and remaining in the doomed apocalyptic hellscape world for a lifetime of suffering instead of going back home to her parents.
Anonymous No.281706666
>>281704111 (OP)
>I need the opposite of isekai, an anime where the protagonist is transported to a magical realm of suffering and loneliness and agony
No, what you need is to re-engage with the definition of "opposite".
Anonymous No.281706766
>>281705321
Incredibly based comment, anon, and I wanted to make sure you knew it didn't go unnoticed.
Anonymous No.281706807
>>281705321
Young nigga on that Upton Sinclair shit
Anonymous No.281707043
>>281704111 (OP)
you want real life?
Anonymous No.281707266
>>281704111 (OP)
Drifting Classroom
Milk Closet
Gringo 2061
Wakusei Closet
Gantz
Anonymous No.281707289
>>281704541
yeah :(
>>281705527
>in which the "unreal" is made real by everybody believing in it
reminds me of chaos;child sorta
Anonymous No.281707316 >>281707381
>>281705321
YWNBAW
Anonymous No.281707381
>>281707316
Stop projecting, tranny faggot.
Anonymous No.281707599
>>281704111 (OP)

I was gonna mention "Now and Then, Here and There", but I see the thread has already well taken care of that for me.
Escaflowne is pretty fucked up, but I'm maybe only suggesting Escaflowne because I love it. Grimgar has it's moments.

>>281705841
>tells off the guys trying to assassinate Hamdo because the cycle of violence or whatever but then when Hamdo does die it's portrayed as fixing everyone's problems instantly with no downside

As I get older, and spend more of my time reading actual books, I quietly realize this is something people tell themselves (and others) as a coping mechanism for being powerless. If you don't have any control over your life and everything is just constant abuse it can be extremely helpful to recontextualize your lack of choice as a conscious decision to not enable violence. But violence is extremely useful.
Because you're absolutely right, killing Hamdo was objectively the best thing to do; he was an Africa-tier dictator leading a para-military group of mercenaries and child soldiers, held together by abuse and his own funds, that otherwise had no process of succession and once he died noone realistically would have replaced or replicated him (for the forseeable future at least).

>>281706127
>Also the adults shaming Sarah into keeping the rape baby

This was earnestly completely fucking insane to see transpire.
Even assuming she kept the rape baby either way it was insane for her to stay in their dog shit world to live like an Afghan peasant. The quality of her life, and her children's opportunities, would have been infinitely greater in our world.