Thread 281740638

>>281741039
>I'll end him myself
Demonbros, are we getting too cocky?

>>281740885
>>281740906
>>281740934
>>281740954
It's a thing of mine or did this just rose the power levels a lot?
One of those humanoid robots made Kiva bleed a lot, and he's annihilating an army of them with so much ease.

>>281741104
Cute Bug

>>281741071
Jachi has shown the power to back up his cockiness so far.

End of dump

>>281741240
>The Demon Race has Fallen
>Billions must Die

>>281741196
ENTER

>>281741104
Diganazal'd soon

>>281741240
Clanker status?

>>281741240
EXIT

Aura is for Jachi

>>281741240
EXIT

>>281741240
Is it really dead or is it just gonna regenerate

>>281741305
I assume it's gonna reveal there's actually like fifty of them, and while they are weaker then Jachi they can harm him.

Either that or Jachi continues plowing through them

>>281741268
The best part is that it will be by his game: swarmed by bugs.

>>281741336
>>281741305
>>281741240
>Jachi spoonfeeding the robots info on how strong he is
Not a wise move at all.

Wonder if the robots would go the OPM route with the possibility of self repairment, shape memory thing.
Which is more powerful?

I want to see what's happening next with Yaotsu...

>>281741305
>>281741336
Given that Nyudo should be aware of how strong Jachi is since he's seen him use his burst form while he's not even released here, and has also seen this new special unit before probably do something against the roach demon lord, plus what he said about the robots learning, my guess is that Jachi might have fucked up and given the robots a huge power boost given Nyudo's reaction.
Given how Nyudo's reaction in that last panel seems unusually serious compared to how carefree he normally is.

>>281741419
Neither. The most OP is sending countless bodies in to gather data and test strengths in order to make perfect countermeasures. Alternatively, we get some bullshit moment like the Abyss Eaters in Claymore, in which case yea regen OP.

>>281741477
>my guess is that Jachi might have fucked up and given the robots a huge power boost given Nyudo's reaction
Yeah, I'm guessing that too. Something like how the robots are able to make stuff that's wildly stronger than they are now, they've just never had to because the humans are too weak, so that would be a waste of resources. So rather than them learning, he's moreso given them a reason to develop stronger weapons. That's my theory at least.

>>281741039
>Trying to stop your best friend who thinks he can take on a silverback gorilla
Nyudo was pretty good this chapter

>>281741436
Technically, he's close. The lawless found the camp of the heroine that was trying to reach the cockroach.
So Rinri's gang was thriving near a super forest, the parasite, some giants, a demon king and a robot factory...

>>281740694
absolute unit

>>281741039
Interesting that Nyudo doesn't seem to have any fear in his voice when talking about Ginbak despite seeing the fight firsthand. Jachi thinking he can still take Ginbak (lol) lends credence to the theory that all demons lords are not equal in strength at all and Jachi might well be one of the strongest while Diganazal was one of the weakest.

>>281741085
Did you forget how Kiva was owned by the Madarians, then Jachi raped one of those suckers without breaking a sweat? Jachi is well beyond the power level of his executives, and probably so is the Demon King compared to him and other demon lords.

>>281741292
Learning.

>>281741128
ominous.

An enemy in "watching" mode feels scarier than an enemy in fighting mode.

>>281741240
And just like that, Jachi has sealed the fate of his species by giving the Robots a direct in into Demo Lord-grade magical energy.

>>281741104
I hope we get more of this battle next month, robots vs demons is really the only way we get army vs army stuff.

>>281741216
TITLE DROP

>>281741937
>In the end... We were truly a versus...

>>281741937
>A battle between thirteen Natural Enemies?
>What is this, somekind of Versus?

>>281741240
with this pacing, how will the manga ever end without being rushed like shit?

>>281741815
Kiva was one, then four guys, this is a chinese army against a guy playing dynasty warriors and not even getting damaged when hit by everything.
Silly as it sounds now I thought heroes had a shot at hurting the demon kings. You know, being wasps instead of easy to hit flies.

>>281741801
Agreed, I think at least Nyudo and Jachi must be outliers, Jachi has shown his strength already, and Nyudo at the very least is tricky enough that he could teleport enemies away if they're stronger than him. Unless, of course, some fucking retard gave an enemy info to come up with countermeasures against demon lord tier magic.

>>281741240
>Loser Nyuudo: "Noooo, Jachi, you mustn't fight robots, you are feeding them information! If they die they win! Nevermind that they can do it with other units too!"
>Demon KING Jachi: will destroy a robot factory and probably some backup databanks too.
History will vindicate Jachi on this, just you watch.

>>281741216
So the robot is gonna learn in 10 battles and defeat him at the end of it

>>281742100
The other manga I'm reading that comes out regularly along with Versus is the Slime Tensei one and that's on its 133rd chapter as of today.

>>281741301
>>281741416
That's cute Maybe Jachi could train her into a stronger jobber.

>>281742100
Why are thinking of when it's ending? It's only just beginning

>>281742146
>you should never attack because your enemies can just magically adapt to literally everything
if there's one theme to this entire manga, is that you should always stick to your guns and overpower the enemy with brute force
that's literally the only move every single character does, again and again, and if you're plot relevant enough if works

which brings me to my next point:
complaining that the manga is still about pure powerwank without any underlying rhyme or reason

>>281742183

cartel has her priorities straight

>>281742393
good morning, Saar

>>281742393
a manga that's going on for 2 years is not "just beginning"
anon has correctly identified that for all the spectacle, fuck all happens, narrative-wise

>>281742574
Imagine getting your neck broken by those thighs

>>281741240
That's his own fault for being so roundabout. Fatso is supposed to be quickwitted and we'll informed. Should have just told him straight that fighting against them at the moment is going to threaten the Demon King's reign. Once he's calmed down you can tell him why. He isn't stupid, just battle hungry.

>>281741039
BRING ME KEKBAK

>>281742183
I like how Fluffy Cosmic Heroine's hair is

>>281742563
>if there's one theme to this entire manga, is that you should always stick to your guns and overpower the enemy with brute force

Except that the humans will survive by doing the exact opposite and playing NEs against each others with cunning and misdirections, without even overpowering a single one of them in brute force.
And the only other NE who's kinda doing the same thing (the Lawless) will likely be among the last standing enemies.

>energy waves
>Fist projections
>Frieza style finger beams
I like that we got see more of Jachi's abilities

>>281740665
>>281740694
oh shit

>>281740752
I like the design of the tortoise robots.

I wish murata was the artist.
He's a better artist than azuma
and he would have spared every dead chick, especially diganazal, who would be ginbak's pet monkey by now.

>>281741240
Someone edit Nyudo with a "Nyudo is always right" red cap after Jachi gets the crap beaten out of him next chapter.

>>281742874
>redraws every 3 issues
No

>>281740801
epic

>>281742805
nice headcanon
I prefer to go by what's there instead of an imagined fanfic, but you do you
and you still need underlying logic for cunning and misdirections, which logic this manga lacks completely, to be narratively satisfying

>>281742874
>He's a better artist than azuma
He really isn't

>>281740827
>>281740855
>punched the missiles out of the air
Feels like something Saitama would do.

>>281742874
>and he would have spared every dead chick
That's the main reason why he never should touch this, there is no death contest survival plot if everybody is surviving.

He's clearly learned his lesson.
ONE wouldn't let him pull anything like that again.

>>281742606
If it's a 10+ years spanned series like it seems to be, we're still in a very huge set-up part of the story

>>281742653
Just like Jachi is a battle maniac, Nyudo MUST play around with words, there's no way around it.

>>281741104
I can't believe Roya Roach lives in the internet.

>>281740954
Nice page.

>>281743037
lol

The robot is going to attach itself to Jachi and mind control him.

>>281743039
history is littered with records of epic series that planned for dozens of entries only to be cancelled after the first two

Say it every month but we need 30+ page chapters or two a month.

I saw these on baidu

>>281742563
>if there's one theme to this entire manga, is that you should always stick to your guns and overpower the enemy with brute force that's literally the only move every single character does, again and again, and if you're plot relevant enough if works
For all ONE’s talent as a writer you shouldn’t really expect anything other than this truth be told. All his problems are solved by someone with bigger muscles punching the bad guy hard. Even in Mob Psycho 100 (which is all about not being arrogant in your gifts and contributing to society and rah rah rah) one of the villains goes on about how psychics are the superior beings because of their power and the powerful should call their shots and whatever, and Mob is like nuh uh and then fights Toichiro and wins because… he’s the superior god-being, not for any reason Mob was arguing for. In essence proving Toichiro was entirely correct, he just didn’t know there was someone even higher on the totem poll
Long story short this is one of ONE’s big flaws as a writer so definitely don’t hope for anything different in Versus going forward

>>281742100
The goal of every mangaka is to endlessly do their one thing as long as it sells and health allows them to draw.

>>281741240
What in the fuck can the robots possibly learn from this? How do they grow stronger from knowing that "Holy shit he is super fast and strong!".

>>281741305
It's a setup for special robot rapidly raising his power level.

>>281741196
awesome

>>281743341
I'm guessing that type of robot is crammed full of specialized sensors.

>>281743219
I can only think of that panel of comic Doom marine shouting about a demon's guts. I don't think that that's the reference.

>>281741305
This one is really dead, but they're gonna use what they learned from this fight to make another one that's stronger.

>>281743377
I dunno, I feel like their learning ability allows them to exploit weaknesses or developer counter-technology to specific things, it doesn't just magically make them faster or stronger.

>>281743341
Anti-magic fields.

Magic fueld robots and projectiles.

Hacking of the telepathic network Jachi and Nyudo were actively using when Jachi was executing the robot.

Patterns recognitions and combat prediction engines that will allow advanced robots to dodge and counter Jachi's moves by predicting them in advance.

Intel about unknown biological weakness the demon species is not even aware of.

Virtual hells specifically designed for storing Jachi's mind the future, fueled with his own personal nightmares.

Trust Robots supremacy.

>>281741240
Jachi unintentionally initiated a learning sequence. There are probably a bunch waiting their turn to fight, and each will be more dangerous than the last to learn everything Jachi is capable of doing. I imagine it will be like Ultron where the robot will just keep advancing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA5wYcybkCM

>>281742100
bro this manga just won 2025 best shounen manga it's not gonna end any time soon

>>281740638 (OP)
alright, it's motherfucker

>>281743533
>Anti-magic fields.
Requires them to reverse-engineer magic or mana, I'm not sure that is something they can understand from Jachi just punching them at mach 5.

>Magic fueld robots and projectiles.
Same thang.

>Hacking of the telepathic network Jachi and Nyudo were actively using when Jachi was executing the robot.
Would be funny, but again, not something Jachi would demonstrate through combat.

>Patterns recognitions and combat prediction engines that will allow advanced robots to dodge and counter Jachi's moves by predicting them in advance.
Jachi can AoE a small mountain with his punches at speeds that generate sonic booms. No amount of predictive learning will suddenly make you fast enough to dodge.

>Intel about unknown biological weakness the demon species is not even aware of.
Extremely speculative.

>Virtual hells specifically designed for storing Jachi's mind the future, fueled with his own personal nightmares.
Jachi can tank laser blasts to the face, they are not getting anywhere near his brain.

>Trust Robots supremacy.
Nah and fuck you for posting that comic.

So this is like Monthly right?, can't they sped up the progress, i think 2 weeks would've been sweet

>>281743708
The artist is working on another monthly manga called Tenkaichi

>>281743599
could you spoonfeed me a link to that award?

Both Robots and Parasites are snowballing, adaptation-based enemies but they work differently.

Parasite adapt super fast by ingesting living beings around them and instantly gaining their abilities, but if you defeat a Super-Wurm with X, Y and Z abilities, that's it, he's dead and the other Parasites around the world don't have his abilities.

Robots progress much slower but every acquired data is instantly shared to every unit and factory around the world, and then produced en masse.

People think that at some point, the Robots will manage to build a mecha-Kaiju that can hold his own against Daikokuzan.
They're wrong.

Once the Robots acquire the knowledge to make such a machine, they won't build one. They'll build 10 000.

>>281741104
sex with roach

>>281741240
I have a feeling Jachi is going to end up fighting nanomachines.

>>281743961
>Jachi vs Grey Goo
based but I think it's probably going >>281743833
route

>>281741240
> another chapter of Jachi walking over somebody

uwah, sasuga ONE-sensei!! definitely worth waiting a month to read this!

>>281742874
Murata's art has steadily gotten worse for the past 2 years.

>>281744025
If you ain't reading Versus to see bad guys fighting other bad guys, what the fuck are you doing here retard?
Did you somehow miss the entire concept of the manga in the past 20+ chapters?

Post Demons

>>281744025
>another day of being heterosexual
I know, not something you can grasp.

>>281743734
This is stupid, this is REALLY fucking stupid why didn't One chose another artist??

>>281740638 (OP)
About time, here we go.

>>281744172
Because Kyoutarou is a good artist.

>>281744148
Demons? Demons...

>>281741240
No wonder Jachi is taking so long. He is going to be fighting upgraded robots.

>>281741085
Kiva was of a comparable level with Hallow, and Jachi’s aura alone was able to kill Hallow’s party and project immense pressure onto Hallow, and that was with his magical power being sucked up. The gap has always been huge, we’re just getting a better idea of the specifics. Even against an alien, Jachi wasn’t really being serious; at most he removed one handicap (his cape) that was the equivalent of crippling himself. The equivalent to us would be putting on a straight jacket and hanging weights all over our body to wrestle with a baby, considering how central magical power is to the demons’ combat style.

>>281741305
It’s not that Nyudo thinks Jachi is in danger from this alone, but that he senses it’s potentially dangerous for the demons to fight it in the first place. I’d wager that this is a specialized unit the robots make for learning from the enemy.

>>281740801
Based.

>>281740954
Pretty cool.

>>281743809
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2025-05-12/versus-fall-in-love-you-false-angels-historie-win-49th-kodansha-manga-awards/.224366

>>281743734
Is it good?

>>281743037
Yes, the scorpion won't stab your back this time like other times it did.

>>281743341
That’s literally how they’ve been shown to learn from the start, what’s the point of asking this now? Even throughout this chapter, the robots started their data gathering here by just unloading everything they could and observing the results. You can probably just assume that this specific model is better at it than the others, since Nyudo was worried the entire chapter about the possible threat of the enemy learning from them (when we’re shown that all the other robots have already been doing this in their own way) and that this specific model was worse than all the other fodder.

>>281741104
That's a cute looking roach.

>>281744748
yeah there's only one bad fight so far

>>281741174
Stop acting cocky you're gonna job.

>>281741104
Heels

>>281744760
Thanks, I'll read it then

>>281741240
>>281741216
Fucking KEK, nevermind I apologize to my demon lord.
That or it's gonna come back stronger next page.

>>281741801
Nyudo probably has a lot of haxed magic that can bypass physical resistance like teleporting and maybe soul drain and transfiguration, Jachi is just really cocky he likely would have ended up like monke girl had the fight continued

>>281743833
Although they will build multiple units, I think what's going to actually counter Demons is some rare material that the robots are going to mine that has magical properties. That will help limit how many robots they can build and what they can do. That being said, I expect there to be multiple of those special robots in the next chapter that start learning how to counter specific magic similar to the 2nd chapter. Jachi's type is hard to counter because it's pure force/physical which they can't really do much about, but the laser beam and what not they will have countermeasures for.

>>281742146
Nyudo’s setting himself as a behind-the-scenes mastermind, so it would be ironic if he got taken out by the appearance of a sudden calamity he couldn’t have foreseen or noticed (at least before it’s too late). Perhaps Daikokuzan?

>>281743678
>Requires them to reverse-engineer magic or mana, I'm not sure that is something they can understand from Jachi just punching them at mach 5.

They've developed an anti-magic shield a few seconds after being hit by human spells in the second chapter.

>Same thang.

See above.

>Would be funny, but again, not something Jachi would demonstrate through combat.

Lawless chapters confirmed Robots have mind controlling helmets. Analyze magical brainwaves is just one step further. Not that far when combined with magical energy reverse-engineering.

>Jachi can AoE a small mountain with his punches at speeds that generate sonic booms. No amount of predictive learning will suddenly make you fast enough to dodge.

Not the first thing they will develop, nor an immediate game changer, but once they develop Demon Lords level mechas and equip them with this, Jachi is completely cooked.

>Extremely speculative.

You'll see.

>Jachi can tank laser blasts to the face, they are not getting anywhere near his brain.

See the point about brainwave analysis.

>Nah and fuck you for posting that comic.

The flesh is weak. Blame the game, not me.

>>281741085
I like the idea of the first villain we're shown to being a genuine powerhouse instead of a pushover in the face of the other worlds. He definitely seems like an exception among the demons though since they state he's a fighting type, while the other seem to need some form of gimmick to maintain their strength

>>281744748
It's very good.

>>281741216
Wait...
>I see it has shown itself there as well
Alright so these are probably the ones that are sent against big fighters and there's a bunch of them and whenever one fights they all upgrade in real time unlike other robots that would need to be scrapped and rebuilt.

>>281744825
I can already see the future scene where Nyudo is looking at Yaotsu through his scrying spell, and then Yaotsu looks back and emerges from the divination ball like that ghost girl crawling out of the TV in the Ring.

>>281744833
>They've developed an anti-magic shield a few seconds after being hit by human spells in the second chapter.
No, they developed a field that insulates them against electricity and extreme cold. Same page comments it's LIKE a magic shield, not that it is one.

>See above
See above.

>Lawless chapters confirmed Robots have mind controlling helmets. Analyze magical brainwaves is just one step further. Not that far when combined with magical energy reverse-engineering.
"Analyze magical brainwaves" is a hell of a leap to take. As for magical reverse-engineering, see above.

>Not the first thing they will develop, nor an immediate game changer, but once they develop Demon Lords level mechas and equip them with this, Jachi is completely cooked.
Potential man meme.

>You'll see.
I don't see shit right now.

>See the point about brainwave analysis.
See above.

>The flesh is weak. Blame the game, not me.
I blame the game and you. You have also just lost it.

>>281744850
Yeah I think having Jachi job to one of the other worlds after destroying Hallow's confidence in the first chapter would've been the cheap and easy route. It's much more interesting that he actually has the power to back up his status and introduction, and it's obvious we'll get another confrontation between him and Hallow later to tie everything together. It also would've immediately killed everyone's investment in Hallow as the MC (not that he's much of a "main character" in terms of focus, he really needs to show back up already) if he had a whole dramatic breakdown vs Jachi only for him to get removed from the story instantly.

>>281742183
Heidi ...

>>281744825
I think his downfall will be one of the unconventional, unseen threats like the curse or parasites (much more unlikely). And speaking of irony, it would be fitting if Nyudo ended up trapped by the Game World and forced to play games for survival, just like he likes to toy around with humans.

>>281744957
Ever since I saw him puppeteer those soldiers on the chess board I figured he would die to his own, parasitized army.

>>281744866
I think Nyudo didn't want Jachi to fight the bot because if they're upgrading in real time, his fight may upgrade the others enough that it ends up fucking over Roya Roach and viceversa.

>>281740827
why do the missiles have smiley faces?

>>281744817
I’d lean towards them researching and synthesizing new material themselves, since your suggestion would make them reliant on a resource, but being able to produce it themselves would be a true advancement of their capabilities.

>>281743734
Nagaharu is winning his VERSUS.

>>281745051
Digimon reference?

>>281740752
cool

>>281745051
All the machines smile and talk calmly when exterminate humans. The AI probably thinks it puts them at ease before killing them.

>>281741216
did they get rid of the pixelized font for the robots?

>>281744915
The robots entire gimmick is potential man though, either that will have pay off, or they do literally nothing except job.

>>281740985
Jachi doesn't look as handsome as he normally does in that last panel

>>281745098
The problem is I don't think any normal material can really deal with magic; it needs to be something specific to the magic world. If they can just synthesize material out of nothing they'd be way too broken and basically be breaking the laws of physics themselves. I would like to see how they are gathering materials to even build all those robots as I imagine they'd need a shit ton of mines to get all the metal/plastic/whatever.

>>281745249
I assume cursed tech and the world tree roots can deal with magic

>>281745249
maybe they can melt down the demon bodies, or mix their blood into their parts

>>281745098
If you look at >>281744817 though, they clearly have some energy barriers and what not that can be tuned to defend against magic. I think that's a more likely route.
>>281745293
Soul tech can likely match the power and the world tree probably resists/absorbs magic, but I don't think robots can utilize either of those (especially soul/curse land tech because it's literally using the power of souls and something they likely can't analyze).
>>281745315
It'd be interesting to see if robots become more "organic" but I think they're avoiding it for now.

>>281741104
the robots are going to wipe the floor with the roaches once jachi's combat data gets uploaded to skynet.

I'm guessing Roach is gonna get exterminated next chapter, if any faction is gonna take out the Robots it'll be the Madarans or Curse. Madarans because they are also advanced and have satellite control to wipe out every factory on the planet and curse because it'll probably degrade all non-curse tech over time.

It is likely the robots are analyzing jak cape and how it subdue his powers. I bet they will steal his cape when he takes out and burst against them

>>281743219
>Demon!
>I need a Demon!

>>281745420
There's nothing so far that would require him to burst. Nyudo will also probably tell him specifically to avoid bursting/removing the cape so that they cannot analyze him at full power, and just focus on eliminating the factory.

>>281740665
The fact that Gori's body was still mostly intact when Jachi killed him with a punch is more impressive consider how he just decimated the robots with a wave

what's the next chapter teaser say?

>>281742342
Jachi would teach her to get swole

>>281745501
>To become peerless, control is difficult.
May be
>For the peerless, control is difficult.

What I notice is that the modus operandi and model of robots keep improving
At first few chapters when the bots were fighting humans, the standard foot soldier models were quadruped smiley face robot, with the sole leader unit being bipedal and round head that fought kiva
then in the previous chapter, we saw the neo humans wiping the quadruped robots easily, but the elite bipedal unit that double KO heidi seems to be much more versatile than the one in chapter 2, for instance
>the arm joints are less exposed and rather covered in armor plate now
>forearm blades used without limiter removal
>the bot changed tactic and threat analysis immediately compared to waiting out in chapter 2
and now in this chapter, the elite bipedal model is now a mass produced field soldiers completely replacing the bipedal models, with more upgrades such as
>can now shoot laser from palm (chapter 2 bot could only shoot laser from head)
>capable of flight
the robots are no doubt learning at alarming rate and with resources to field the army too
My guess is that the robot still won't be able to create top tier fighters level en masse, there likely will be only few specialized models to combat powerhouse like jachi due to material demand
but outside of that, the bots will have the best and strongest rank and file soldiers with enough prep time, even moreso than the alien's mini saucers

>>281745501
Isn't it more like "those who are peerless [are] difficult to control," or am I just retarded?

Can't wait to see Jachi fucking die

>>281745927
Hallow....

>>281741477
I kind of doubt they've seen his Burst

>>281742100
It could end in like 10-15 year with a bit over 150 chapters

People tend to forget that setup chapters take a really long time and we're still basically in setup.

>>281745746
maybe "the peerless one… is not easily controlled"

What did the robots think when they sensed the Kaiju? "Damn threat 1000!"

Also if Daikokuzo is the sole Kaiju I could see it outliving the demons and robots

>>281745784
>the elite bipedal model is now a mass produced field soldiers completely replacing
Quadripeds were in this chapter, and they were wiped out, not replaced.

>>281742100
why are you channers so obsesed with endings? geez. can't you read a fucking manga just for the pleasure of reading it?

>>281746127
We also saw them in the forests where they were acquiring data.

>>281746127
ok, not completely replacing, but maybe downgraded from combatants to scouting/patrolling role
the robot is certainly boosting the number of bipedal model as main fighting force

>>281742874
We already had one manga where Murata was the artist, and he turned it from a modern masterpiece into a laughing stock.

>>281742183
I can never quite be sure if Iglay has a dark skin-tone or not. The shading/highlights are a little confusing

>>281746249
Nice art. Who drew this?

Honestly I think Nyudo is my favorite demon so far. Smart, calculating, and cocky but not to a fault. Feels like one of the few characters properly adapting to the new world like the humans are, despite being in a powerful position before. I doubt he makes it to the end of the manga but I hope he's not killed for stupid reasons.

>>281741240
This was a great chapter. It sucks having to wait monthly.

I actually don't think jachi will walk out of this unharmed
imagine this in the next chapter
>the combat model restarted, still hanging from jachi's arm
>"threat analysis escalated, developing countermeasure"
>the combat model started counterattacking, actually damaging jachi
>jachi destroyed the bot, only to turn around and see multiple more of them
>jachi start fighting
>"light beam attack countermeasure developed, convergence beam deployed"
>jachi started getting more agitated
>"revising threat of organic life form, attack patterns identified, developing close combat stratagem, deploying"
>jachi removed his cloak limiter
>"increased output in biological energy detected, developing countermeasure, supermaterial armor calculated"
>nyudo watching all this unfolded forcibly teleported jachi out lest the bot kept growing
>final page, bots eye glow in unison, panel fade to black
>"uploading countermeasure"

>>281746596
I agree Jachi does get hurt a bit, but I don't think he'll be forced to retreat. Roya is the one who probably gets fucked and maybe Nyudo saves her. Jachi will finish the job quickly but maybe respect Nyudo's opinion a bit more. Then again, it would be on course of Jachi to say demons should get stronger who cares. I think we'll get a robot Mother reveal soon though, getting data from the remote factory before it's destroyed.

>>281743158
Luckily this is the second best selling series in its magazine

>>281742563
Massively off the mark

>>281741240
My guess is that they send out more of these special units who get progressively stronger each time and we get to see the roach guy getting screwed over more and more by the robots every time jachi kills one of those special units.

>>281746661
I do think that we are, narratively, roughly at the point where Jachi needs to get hurt. Nothing that can't be healed with a bit of magic, but enough that he is forced to recognize that these otherworldly beings CAN be a threat to him, not just an annoyance, and approach future fights with a bit more caution. "Jachi stomps everything in front of him with pathetic ease' can't be repeated forever without becoming boring.

>>281747027
He already got a taste of a challenge with Ginbak. Jachi might get pressed to Release at most, but I could see Jachi's part of this section being over and focus shifting to how Robots have improved/Mother lore

>>281747027
We got that when Ginbak/Gimbak yeeted him miles away after tanking him like nothing. He's just still too muscle-headed to admit that some things are stronger.

>>281746893
What is the first?

>>281746123
They probably were just unable to assess the threat. I don't see the bots ever beating the Kaiju, and it could casually stomp over their bases but the bots could adapt by making the factories mobile fortresses so they stop losing infrastructure to this natural catastrophe.

>>281747139
Reincarnated as a Slime

>>281747156
The cost effective robot counter to Kaiju is to create distractions that lead it away from areas the robots consider important. If you can't beat it, just keep it occupied fighting diposable mechagodzilla that are not designed to win, just to be easy to repair and annoying to fight.

>>281747239
> Rimaru takes one look at Versus land
> "Wow, you guys are fucked. I'm, uh, not tangling with any of that. If you can get the humans to a safe place maybe we can evacuate them to my world, but there's no saving that one."

>>281741305
I assume the concern wasn't that Jachi wouldn't win against that individual robot Nyudo really does not want the robots to get more data

>>281742874
Murata's art is fucking soulless slop

>>281744938
That would've been Jachi vs Gimbak if Nyudo didn't bail out Jachi

I feel like Jachi, I miss my hero Hallow

>>281744817
Isn't human magic different to demon's thiugh? It doesn't seem like demons use spells

>>281747668
It depends on the demon, Nyudo uses classic spells while Jachi is a bruiser who just enhances his own body with mana

>>281741240
Amazing chapter, goddamn.
Love these demonic fucks.

>>281747668
>>281747768
Diganazal was going to use an Explosion spell before Jachi crushed her as well

>>281748027
I thought she did use an explosion spell, it just didn't achieve much?

>>281741240
Nothing bad is going to happen to Jachi, it's obvious that he is like a main character for the author.
He will survive at least until the very end of the manga being a Gary stu.

>>281748289
Jachi is going to die, but not randomly just to satisfy the "omg plot twists, so unpredictable!" faggots like you. His death is going to have narrative significance.

>>281748558
>Jachi is going to die
Of natural causes at a ripe old age, surrounded by his loving family

If Murata were the artist, we'd still be stuck in redraws of the first demon-robot clash.

>>281740827
>Has to destroy the missiles
So he can't tank that

>>281748675
He literally tanked them with his fists

>>281748558
I cannot see it ending any way other than Hallow defeating Jachi

Damn

>>281742183
>>281746249
wait, I worked it out.
Her natural skintone's quite light, but she's tanned. She's been left with tanlines around her eyes because of her goggles.
Her hat often casts a shadow over that part though, so she often looks darker there

>>281741240
He fell for it

>>281746055
>>281745838
my read is:
>he who becomes peerless is difficult to control

>>281748918
I can only imagine Hallow finally beating Jachi after being juiced by every flavor of world boon while Jachi is legit crippled from fighting random shit + cursed

>>281741292
>"thanks for the data nerd"

>>281742874
No he's not. Murata has extreme same face and body type issues.
The days of early OPM are long gone. >>281748027
She did use the explosion. Ginbak just tanked it with his hands like he was Superman.
Realistically if he does fight Jachi again, he should just mulch Jachi on seconds to maintain his clear power advantage. He effortlessly tanked the hit that crumpled the alien and all of the stuff sexymonkwife used including her demon lord suicide attack.
We already jumped the power level gun right after the neo human Vs titans stuff so it's pointless to pretend that there's anything to really maintain in terms of scale.

>>281747239
didn't read the slime novel or manga. What's its abilities and feats? is there anything op about them?

>>281748267
>>281749784
Yeah she did use the explosion I just worded it poorly

Here's an apology monkey wife

>>281741216
wtf does versus over 10 mean

>>281742183
>hoomans front and center
>most people are in it for the NE(like heidi)
Why doesn't ONE give us a NE color spread?

>>281748675
He just find it annoying because missile explosion would produce a lot of dust.

>>281750348
Probably means over a threat level of 10.

>>281750348
Probably a tier list of all the different enemies they have encountered.

>>281741436
Humans are safe with Yaotsu, but will the price of that safety be high enough to give them reason to try to leave it?

>>281742183
Just look at these COSMIC BAZONGAS.

>>281745187
It must have learned that worked early, and had no reason to stop.

>>281750310
Gone too soon, she would have been better captured.

>>281745402
Pretty much

>>281741240
It's hard to be smart while being surrounded by idiots.
Thanks for the dump.

>>281749955
Rimuru basically becomes God with a big G.
Ok now I wonder how a battle between him and Yaotsu would go.
Yaotsu just seems more like a very powerful god, can't say without much information to speculate.

>>281740638 (OP)
yessss

>>281740642
odd they have bots that try to dissuade people instead of just killing them

>>281744172
This guy is really good.

>>281740801
most swagger of the bad guys

>>281751341
More than just finding her hot, I think killing her was a waste because there was a lot of untapped comedic potential in her becoming the giants' slave
>Diganazal constantly trying to assassinate Ginbak but he's so strong that he not only survives her attempts but outright ignores them
>Failing that, she attempts manipulate him into becoming her pawn but he winds up being too retarded to trick
>Diganazal giving a long and detailed explanation about whatever they're currently facing, only for Berser to have to dumb it down for the other giants

>>281742183
>giant blue hair space tits in a sweaty uniform

>>281751874
Everything you mention here is a very generic and predictable development full of tropes that have been seen a million times. No thanks. Gimbak killing the bitch hyper coldly and moving on immediately in typical giant fashion is much better.

>>281742183
The giant's world guy (forgot his name) looks like a pepper with that hair

>>281751874
It could have helped show more of what the giants are like with someone who doesn't know any of it.

>>281745412
I actually thought the robots would synergize really well with cursed world's tech
Imagine if they just start sucking the life out of all biological life forms to power themselves up, it would be like two birds with one stone for them

>>281751874
this all sounds very cute.
I would have liked to see it.

>>281742183
I just realized ONE was already pairing glasses and heidi a year ago

>>281740638 (OP)
YOOOOOOO NEW CHAPTER

>>281751758
It’s both. Verbal commands are very effective and only require a speaker to execute. No reason not to include them in strategies.

>>281745051
To appear less threatening.

>>281741158
How long before the robots figure out how to manipulate mana?

>>281741292
Rogered

>>281743341
>demon is using mana
>by being in direct contact with the demon the robot can conduct mana and figure out what it is.
>robots figure out how to harness it

>>281752042
Bots will either integrate or it'll be like trying to run a water pump off of a hot spring, lotta water but everything it touches gets corroded and breaks a lot faster than it should. Depending on how the Curse affects intelligent creatures long term it might even cause a schism where all the clean AI have to fight the Curse corrupted AI.

>>281745975
Nyudo watched Jachi burst to try to reach Gimbak before he teleported him and his titans away.

Possible robot advancements
>fixing their shitty designs
Why do the quadbots have no ranged weapons? Why do the Naver-types have their most powerful weapon mounted on their head so they need to bend over to actually use it? And why do they use Happy Missiles with the most unaerodynamic shape possible? There's so much improvement they could get out of just not being terrible.
>dedicated aircraft
The robots don't seem to have any proper aircraft and instead rely on their mechs, which will naturally perform worse in the air than a machine designed solely for aerial warfare. If they did things like build actual bombers then hid them above the cloud layer and went to town on natural enemies they would be doing a whole lot better.
>actual artillery
We've never seen them properly use long-ranged artillery (only what looks like short ranged missiles from the turtles) despite being technologically advanced. Even IRL artillery platforms can target enemies hundreds of kilometers away. The robots should be doing even better
>nukes
Nuff said
>nanomachines
Grey goo, disassembler warheads, better manufacturing, artificial plagues, in-combat replication, self-repair, converting destroyed machines into new working ones, etc
>smart matter
Imagine machines that can shapeshift to have more or less melee, better armour, stealth, speed, or whatever depending on the situation
>specialization
We've seen no machines specialized in fighting x or y enemy, only generalists. If i were Mother I'd focus on having some smaller armies dedicated to fighting certain enemies alongside my generalist forces.

>>281746661
>>281747027
My prediction is that the robots somehow use Jachi's information and incorporates it into their newer models. Imagine robots with 80% or even 70% of Jachi's strength start popping up. Jachi will probably make a remark about it being interesting and get ready to take off his cape, before Nyudo points out that they've grown this much in power just by studying suppressed Jachi's data, so Jachi powering up would just end up backfiring in the long run. And then Jachi will probably see the logic and reluctantly retreat while we maybe see Roya Roach get overwhelmed by the new Jachi boosted robots.
Because even though the robots aren't particularly a threat to Jachi himself here, he recognizes that they may be a danger to the demons as a whole and so he decided to destroy them for the overall benefit of demons. On top of that, given Nyudo's words and reactions, him telling Jachi not to fight to special unit wasn't because he thought it was dangerous enough to defeat Jachi, but because fighting it at all would be detrimental in some way. Hence him facepalming right after Jachi destroys it in one blow

>>281752637
Also, robots literally tell their enemies exactly what they're doing. They'd be wasting less energy and not giving away critical information if they stopped announcing every task they were about to perform to the world

>ginbak’s group included his smart “priest son”
>ginbak’s group has just experienced teleportation first hand
>they now have their hands on a demon king’s castle complete with all of her books, resources and live demons
>she also took a human hero as a personal slave, who may be looking to help the giants


Giants are going to start using mana. Or at least ginbak’s son will start teleporting them.

>>281753009
>>she also took a human hero as a personal slave, who may be looking to help the giants
He's dead man

>>281752706
There’s too much about magic to learn from Jachi. Demons would be better off getting ginbak or the kaiju to exterminate the robots first.

>>281753039
Did the fight between spider lady and ginbak happen off screen or did i miss a chapter?

>>281753090
https://versusmanga.xyz/manga/versus-chapter-21/

>>281753040
Neither of those would go out of their way to track down and destroy every server.

>>281743399
>>281743219
it has to be the reference

>>281753090
You missed a whole chapter bro.

>>281753009
Didn't they blow up the castle?

>>281752637
>>281752793
They could also create tiny solar or biomass powered synethetic insects to use as scouts, or to help maintain and repair other machines, or even as weapons by giving them small lasers (probably pointed at eyes to blind enemies) or letting them use their little mechanical limbs to tear stuff apart. A lone synsect is no threat but a swarm of a thousand of them all focusing their ten watt lasers into the center of an enemy's eyes while also crawling up their orifices and digging into their soft tissue is pretty formidable against lower tier enemies, and their ability to information gather would be extremely potent against even high-tiers. Imagine if every demon castle had lots of little synsects hidden in the walls and recording every conversation that goes on

>>281741104
Would

>>281742120
>Silly as it sounds now I thought heroes had a shot at hurting the demon kings. You know, being wasps instead of easy to hit flies.
anon, we got the legit power levels today, heide (a neo human, the peak the "human race" could reach) peak at 10, while based jachi is 132, humans never had a shoot at defeating demons

>>281753696
Heidi wasn't rated, only the other Neo's, and they were rated 3. Kiva was rated 6. Threat levels appear to be exponential, with each level indicating a percentage increase rather than a linear

>>281753507
Better yet, litter every battle field with mines and that act as underground sensors. Robot army knows their location, nobody else does.

>>281745187
I think they tried to create a Rogue Servitor but in the end it became a Determined Exterminator

>>281742807
He already did all of that before...

>>281753753
>Threat levels appear to be exponential, with each level indicating a percentage increase rather than a linear
They don't even appear to increase at the same exponential level either. For example, for Kiva to be six he must be bare minimum tens or so times as powerful than the average Neo, but we saw Neos rated as three. Perhaps they were more elite than average, so Kiva is only 8 or so times more powerful, doubling power with every threat level.
But if that's the case then Jiachi is 8.5070592e+37 times more powerful than Kiva. Which... does not make much sense at all. Well, what if it's a 50% increase? 1.0384594e+34, which still makes no sense. Even if it's only a 10% increase he should still be 8.5070592e+24x as powerful as Kiva.
In other words, the threat level system has about as much though put into it as Dragon Ball's, which is to say none at all

>>281743116
Oh shit, I COMPLETELY forgot that the robots have mind control tech.

>>281749955
Rimuru died and was reincarnated as a slime. Everything he absorbs, he gains its power. It started with eating healing herbs to gain health regen, then eating monsters to gain their abilities, and now has reached a point where it would take a literal god to even remotely threaten him. He decides to build a country and actively struggles to not solve all diplomatic issues by nuking them.

>>281751910
Tropes are commonly seen cliches and they are commonly seen because people like them.

>>281752452
That's Release, which he still didn't get a read on regardless

I can't believe this is the last chapter.

So we can pretty much assume Roya is fucked because of Jachi's dumb ass? R.i.p Roach

>>281753986
Wait, am I misunderstanding something? Hypothetically if each level indicated a 10% increase from the previous level, than Jachi would be about ~164240 times stronger than Kiva, no? 1.1^126?
With that said, I doubt that we'll ever get insight into what threat level actually means since it's probably more a way for ONE to give a general ballpark threat indicator, like in this case it's meant to show 'holy shit Jachi is over 100 on the threat scale' as opposed to 'I wonder if exactly how many times stronger than Kavi/a Neo human Jachi is'.

>>281755180
>Wait, am I misunderstanding something? Hypothetically if each level indicated a 10% increase from the previous level, than Jachi would be about ~164240 times stronger than Kiva, no? 1.1^126?
Yeah you're right, I was lazy and fucked up me math on the 50% and 10%. Still waaay too much to make sense. But yeah, it's just a silly number we're given out to make us go "waow this guy is strong"

>>281753090
You missed her monkey business

>>281754870
Worst girl anyway. She deserves death

>>281753986
It could easily be a statistical measure rather than needing to directly relate to power in some physical sense. Hell it's not like "powerfulness" is exactly a physical property you can just measure, what does it mean to say "person A is 10 times as powerful as person B" specifically anyway?
Instead it could be something like each threat level difference representing a one standard deviation's chance of beating a given opponent. In that example the other Neo's would only have a ~1/350 chance of taking out Kiva while Kiva's odds against Jachi would be so low it's basically zero, which tracks in my view.

Though of course
>>281755278
>it's just a silly number we're given out to make us go "waow this guy is strong"
is entirely correct and we're probably putting far more thought into this than ONE ever did. I just think trying to calculate it as a simple power law and dismissing it based on that is the wrong approach.

>>281755180
I don't think it's meant to be taken too seriously. Plus it attracts the literal numberbrained autists who can't handle nuance in matchups and need everything spelled out with numbers or letter ranks in series I've followed

>>281746596
>Final page shows Roach being defeated because the robots receive a massive performance boost from Jachi.
Kino

>>281742100
ONE is in his 30s, man

>>281751758
look at how they spoke to the human soldiers in the beginning of the manga, it's just a leftover from their original programming

I wish this manga was split into 3 or something with 3 intertwined storylines releasing in the same mag (and they could reorder depending on the plot). It's too bad it'd be a nightmare for them all to keep up at the same pace to avoid spoilers in one.

>>281745051
Frieren reference

I really want the worlds' humans to see the big guns their NE brings out.
>We fought with eveything and it wasn't even a level 6 threat to them?!

>>281741240
>Party mage trying to stop 99 str warrior from triggering every enemy power up for 'a more interesting fight'.

I think it’s clear from Nyudo’s statements and reaction at the end that the robot’s danger ISN’T combat but in data analysis. Maybe destroying it starts a chain reaction of a continual iterative process where another robot is produced integrating lessons learned from the last battle. So it’ll keep evolving until it starts challenging Jachi.

>>281742100
just look at one punch man
it's been dragged to HELL while it should have ended years ago, and we STILL don't even know who the fuck that god is

>>281751793
Like half of Versus is watching Jachi do this and I am not complaining.

>>281746340
>smart, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor

>>281740694
He's so fucking cool bros...

>>281741240
FUARK

>>281748289
Tbh I thought nothing bad was going to happen to Kiva and look where he ended up

>>281757938
Destorying the factories would need to happen first, but those are defended well enough it would mean a lot being learned. Locating and destroying the last few at once should be the easier way. They might able to do some upgrades with individual robots, but there have to be limits.

>>281751889
This are my favourite aliens

>>281746936
I really like Jachi's autism for the "MC".
I wonder where it's gonna go.

>>281749955
Average isekai powerscaling of going from goblin tier to literal God that can sneeze planets away in a pretty short span.

>>281752637
>>281752793
you need to be over 18 to use this site

>>281758283
I genuinely don't see the problem with those posts

>>281741801
I doubt Diganazal was the weakest, she was probably middle of the pack.
If she was the weakest then her getting destroyed like that wouldn't have been so unexpected, and Nyudo wouldn't have said:
>NO DEMON LORD HAS EVER SEEN SUCH OVERWHELMING POWER
Nyudo just isn't worried because he's smarter than Ginbak and can teleport whenever he wishes, he probably feels that the Demon King can take care of Ginbak as well.

I suspect the weakest Demon Lord is RoyaRoach, because she spawns dozens of her children that are Demon Executives. It would balance it out for her because she just has an insane number of strong allies.
>>281741125
Ginbak didn't even use his WOLOLOLOLOLO against Jachi. I doubt even burst mode Jachi would've beaten base form Ginbak, although who knows. It's not unreasonable to believe Ginbak is about the same tier as strength as the Demon King, and we've seen that Demon Executives are FAR WEAKER than Demon Lords (at least Jachi, who I suspect is the 2nd strongest in the demon faction).
>>281741085
Nope, remember how one Madalan destroyed 4 of Jachi's top executives? Didn't even have to go to his second form. They were also being healed by the humans, so in actuality they were being killed tens of times over by one Madalan that was "holding back" (Uki mentioned that Galua holds back). Kiva also didn't struggle as much as you think with that robot, it was a tough fight but he won with one arm. Later on he uses one of his kamehameha blasts on Galua, it's implied if he used that on the robot it would've one-shot, and one-shotting the robots is SUBSTANTIALLY easier than a prolonged fight because they aren't able to adapt.
>>281742068
13 Verses collide.

>>281743833
>281744817
AI with Madalan and curse-technology might be invincible. Using Yggdrasion wood, or some giant Gaia reptiles as armor would also be pretty cool.

>>281758326
>>281749784
Yaotsu > Kaiju/Tree
> Ginbak, Byakuo
Mothership
Jachi >> Gaia's Superwyrms > Great Lords > Madalans (*Demon Lords are in this tier, probably vary in power. POW is implied to be the strongest Madalan)
??? (*BIG GAP)
Abyss > Heroes > Demon Executives > Tyrant Bear
Giants, Navers, Neo-Human Elite Soldiers

It's over... Roya is a guy...

>>281758326
>It's not unreasonable to believe Ginbak is about the same tier as strength as the Demon King
Demon King has to be stronger, otherwise the power gap between Ginbak and his jobber sons is too big to make sense.

>>281753507
>a swarm of a thousand of them all focusing their ten watt lasers into the center of an enemy's eyes while also crawling up their orifices and digging into their soft tissue
Sounds like Worm.

>>281758359
Official translations default to male pronouns constantly, she's clearly feminine her and her gimmick is mass childbirth.

>>281758408
clearly feminine in this chapter*

>>281758343
>POW is implied to be the strongest Madalan
I thought it was more Bawan.
And I'm not sure you can get an ordering that precise just yet. We don't really know enough right. It may be smarter to organize power into tiers
Tier 0: Entire faction concentrated into one godlike monster
Yaotsu, World Tree, Daikokuzan
Tier 1: Beings that likely represent most of a faction's power
Ginbak, Byakuo
Tier 2: Civilization wipers, beings so strong that numbers stop mattering against them
Demon Lords
Tier 3: Super elites that can army wipe even other natural enemies
Madalans
Tier 4: Elites
Demon Executives, Heroes, Gori
etc

>>281749489
That is exactly what's going to happen. Jachi is near dead from the curse, Jachi gets hit by a curse-world cannon that's powered by 500 demon souls, Yaotsu enhanced Hallow's body and sword, and Hallow still has to use Fairy Union (like Ario did when he killed dozens of giants).

>281751874
There was A TON OF UNTAPPED POTENTIAL with Diganazal.

She said she could enhance the giants"' power tenfold. Bullshit she could make Ginbak 10x stronger, but normal giants? I'd believe it. Imagine an army of giants that is 10x stronger. Or an army of Tyrant Bears from her.

Ginbak also the father of every other titan, imagine they had hybrid demon-giant babies and then she modified those to be stronger.

Diganazal was too OP, she had to be killed for plot purposes.

>>281753753 >>986
How about one that starts more exponential and then becomes more linear after 10? Normal robot limits are at around 10 so it would make sense. I think Kiva was more like a 7-8 since the robot wasn't measuring his burst form. >>281756019 >>278
If you just make it linear.
Jachi is around ~22x stronger than Kiva. Which makes a good amount of sense, since 4 Kiva's (Demon Executives are relative to each other) were getting destroyed by Galua. Galua mentioned something about "good power, but bad impact" suggesting if they had concentrated their power into one person, it might've actually done something to him.

>>413
Would be really cool. This could have like 5 spin-offs each following a different world or different ragtag groups after everything merges. It would still be entertaining.

>>281758343
>Yaotsu > Kaiju/Tree
I would wait for the tree arc before ratting it. It's gigantic and immobile, so or it's the first to fall or it's the strongest creature.
And I wouldn't waste much brain on tiers, "I should stop holding back" and power ups will happen a lot, Berser was ridiculed so far but will punch magic circles midway the series.

>>281758325
that's because you expect a level of realism from this manga that's clearly not the author's intent
this isn't gits or even blame, it's a silly fighting manga
>robots literally tell their enemies exactly what they're doing
it's obviously exposition and part of their characterization
you might as well say characters should stop speaking their thoughts

only a 14-year old boy expects actual military thinking from a manga aimed at 14-year old boys
I will say however that it is the purest archetype of a brainless shounen I can think of, which is impressive in its own way

>>281746340
I feel like it's likely his death comes from the god, whose powers are inexplicable for him to really predict or prepare himself against.

>>281758433
>Bawan strongest Madalan
Not sure. Just reread the chapter. He does seem to be a higher rank, maybe he is way stronger than Galua and his team but we can't really be sure.

We do know that everyone in Galua's team was jerking off POW, and they though they were going schizo when they saw Pow get rekt by Daikokuzan. So in Galua's group at least, Pow should be the strongest.
I can definitely see other Madalans in the other groups being stronger.

Our tier lists aren't too dissimilar. I would disagree that Madalans are one-tier below Demon Kings though, rather than that I think Jachi is the 2nd strongest demon of all. Ginbak said Diganazal was much less impressive than him. In a straight brawl I see Nyudo getting destroyed by a Madalan, but desu Nyudo is a mage so...

>>281758517
That's fair. To me they should be pretty similar if they're on the same row, nothing against reorganizing within a tier.

Jachi MIGHT be as strong as base Ginbak even, we don't have enough information. I'm hoping that they're relatively equal but it's possible Ginbak is just fodder compared to Byakuo.

have we seen female giants yet?

>>281746936
>>281747539
>>281744638

i completely forgot about hallow. thought Zaybi was the protaginist.

>>281759204
>hero's name is hallow
>japan pronounces L as R
>hero's name is hero

>>281740801
HE JUST WALK

>>281759204
it's more of an ensemble cast really. i think it was set up for hallow to be the mc at the beginning but they changed directions around the third or fourth volume

>>281759391
the castle invasion was like the end of the introductory arc, which split up our protagonist and deuteragonist. we zeroed in on zaybi for a bit but now that group is kind settled into an uneasy but relatively stable position and we'll probably go back to hallow. we're going to continue broadening our field of view, but hallow is still the MC

>>281754870
Best girl, hope she doesn’t job to the WEAKEST NE

>>281741104
>male
>clearly wearing girl pants on the roach butt

>>281745402
>robots become 10x stronger because Jachi one punched too hard

>>281741487
Waht I want ot see is a perfect coutnermesaurethat isn't jsut "more power", but rather something moe sibtle.

Like a beam that is perfectly calibrated to pierce Jachi's protective aura on an onterwise unremarkable robot.

>>281754870
doesn't this look like roya having a hime haircut if you look at the side bang more closely?

>>281760113
the translation is iffy >>281741174, but the impression is they are picking up info on his pre-attack movements also, so expect a lot of predictive dodging and faster responses.

>>281760113
that happened in chapter 2 where the already-built robot started adjusting its own electric function to create reverse polarity shock to counter lightning magic
I do believe roya is massively fucked because all the robots engaging will start learning to dodge melee attack and might even throw in martial art, something jachi just did
remember, back in chapter 2, kiva pierced the robot with his arm and it didn't even moved, probably never learned melee combat before, considering humans from robot world all use firearms
jachi just fucked roya royally

continuing from >>281760451, thinking back, that scenario is most likely going to happen
roya's soldiers are all humanoid, a perfect way to display robot gaining martial arts

Demons are cute

>>281760113
Type slower, bro

>>281746340
It also seems like he's the only demon lord capable of organizing the other demon lords and stop them from just fighting one another for supremacy

>>281743195
Man, that was one of my favorite chapters. Seeing those aliens get absolutely wrecked and humiliated was just the chef's kiss.
>>281743219
I miss monkey pussy

It's been two years but all the content would still fit in 5 episodes. Sad!

>>281761036
>capable of organizing others
>sends a super giant to murder a monke who annoyed him hundreds of years ago
If he is the only one, the demons never stood a chance.

>>281761728
It would be better as a bi monthly

>>281758234
He's doing the standard isekai trope of the Maou (Demon King) being destined to be defeated by the Yuusha (Hero). The gag is that in this case the Yuusha is clearly just an ant to the Maou but Jachi still feels the need to play out his genre trope role.

Roya Roach is gonna die to the bots due to Jachi's pigheadedness giving them free research material for upgrades
>>281762027
That was also his way of judging Gimbak's strength, if monke had won it'd be no big deal, maybe she'd get mad at him about it later. And if she died, he didn't have to worry about her annoying him anymore. A win-win for Nyudo. He doesn't treat other demon lords he likes, like Jachi, that way though, and he seems to want to make sure Roya doesn't die either since he's telling Jachi to be careful with the robots

>>281764657
sending ginbak digal's way will come back to bite nyudo in the ass, I'm sure
now that nyudo is aware the robot can adapt at alarming rate, the demon would need big R&D, not just possibly to graft new stronger demon warrior, but also physical research into robot's remain to find out about electricity, signal, and eventually robot's internet
killing monke ends all that advancement

>>281760927
reminds me a little of Reala from NiGHTS.

Actually, she seems to resemble Roya slightly, or to share a similar theme.
I wonder if she was one of Roya's offspring who left to work for Jachi?

>>281764837
There are also parasites, like yeah, demon kings like Jachi can probably evaporate even super wurms. But studying them and thinking up countermeasures won't hurt and spare lower ranks who'd job to them.
Demons only REAL hope is that they have genius priest and necromancer demon kings among the 47.

>>281765864
*Demons' only real hope is if they have

Uhm... how is getting impaled and teared apart in half a second going to give clues to the robots on how to counter Jachi???

>>281766013
Yeah, I don't know what it will do against brute physical strength but that's the fun ain't it?

>>281766013
Extended contact to do deep tissue scans.

>>281766119
there'll be limitation on material that could withstand pure physical force that robot could use
but I'm sure the robots will learn melee combat now after observing jachi throwing martial arts around
>be from a world where humans use projectile weapons
>never had to fight melee, only having a forearm blades as tool
>now observed melee fighter throwing punch combo and shit
>learn martial arts
>UPLOADING COUNTERMEASURES
guess what, roya roach's soldiers are all humanoid, would be oh so convenient that the robots fighting them suddenly download martial-arts-ver1.exe, isn't it

>>281740638 (OP)
>The machines steal his cape and analyze its mana eating properties

>>281740638 (OP)
daddies home

>>281740642
Dont eat the robots Jachi.

>>281741265
kek based

>>281741071
Jachi is pretty strong so he might actually have a shot.

>>281745412
It'll be the game.

>>281741196
>>281741216
ENTER

>>281761728
chapter updates were promised to us 3000 years ago

>>281764963
I thought the same thing

>>281758408
Anon please stop being delusional because of your fetish draining all the blood from your brain.

>>281740638 (OP)
Why did they make a manga about characters Saitama would one shot and then try and make them look impressive?

>>281769888
Because it's fun?

>>281764963
Seeing how we have two fishes, a bug and a monkey for demon lords so far and there is 42 left, she may be more related to another bug demon lord

>>281769888
>Iglay
why would we care whether or not Saitama can one-shot them?

Yachi is clearly a fight fag but would he back down from a considerably more powerful opponent, something like God or Daikokuzan?
It feels like demon society has some sort of cooperation, cohesion and will to survive to enjoy at least torturing weaklings rather than zerging into anything that would be close to certain death for them. I can't tell if Yachi lives only for the thrill of a deathmatch (due to lack of anything capable of challenging him) or if he just wishes to blow off steam from someone at least close to his equal.

>>281770214
nevermind Iglay's name there, I posted it by mistake

>>281769888
Because it's fun to see the matchup behind various antagonist group tropes? OPM DURR DEMON LEVEL???? DISASTER LEVEL??? posting fried your brain. Under your logic OPM has no right to exist because random chuuni powerlevel visual novels exist

>>281770214
While Saitama can definitely one-shot them, I can't help but feel like this is also a way for ONE to try writing more about the monsters he regularly kills off in OPM. Especially with Jachi reminding me a lot of Deep Sea King.

>>281770246
Makes you wonder why he serves the Demon Emperor in the first place

>>281770818
I assume that the Great Demon King Byakuo's strength is one of the few things he knows for certain eclipses his own, as unlike with Ginbak he knows exactly what he is

>>281758932
Half the giants we've seen so far were female.
But the serious answer is no.

>>281769888
Why would you make a manga about Saitama when Goku erase his entire universe from existence with a jab?

I miss Ginbak

>>281770818
I wonder what he will do if that one dies. Internal fighting that he tries to take that place, or maybe tries to work with some other group.

>>281761728
so this is where the guy who adapted promised neverland ended up

>>281770818
Judging by how strong he is, he is probably his son.

>>281770246
if he is a real fightfag he won't be scared of dying in battle. But would be funny to see him being humbled for once with nyudo choosing not to save his ass again

>>281749955
Meetings

>>281741216
>>281742189
The robot is going to say "Vesus over 9 battles mode activate" next time, isn't he? The robot faction lacks a cool recognizable boss character and have been made to look too weak this chapter, maybe it's this robot who is going to level up to boss proportions with each encounter. I can see it becoming more and more like Jachi with each defeat and new iteration. It already looks suspiciously like his overall body shape, it's probably configured to copy Jachi. What armchair bro wanted to warn Jachi about isn't that it's strong, it's that anyone OTHER than Jachi should deal with it. Or it just levels up.

>>281774930
>The robot is going to say "Vesus over 9 battles mode activate" next time, isn't he?
Very likely that Over 10 is in reference to Jachi breaking their original Threat Level scale, so it's not gonna go down

Bring me Jachi.

How would you describe him? He isn't a brat, but he also needs correction

>>281775486
they/them pussy

>>281775486
Smug twink

Next chapter when?

when was the last time we even saw hallow. feels like ts been forever

>>281776881
hallow's visage has been flashed in zaybi's mind a few times. the last time hallow was actually in a chapter was 18

>>281742183
>a year later and none of them have died yet
>gameworld niggas also nowhere to be seen

>>281777452
The two neo-terrans did

>>281775486
I think the zoomers have a proper word for this. He's a gremlin.

>>281770818
I imagine all the demons are scheming against each other to take the top job.

>>281777849
Nope, that's not how you use that, and it also isn't a zoomer word.

>>281778333
Well sadly I'm old so I guess I lost track of new words.

>>281777726
they aren't in that pic, also technically not confirmed

>>281742183
>ONE's most recent work!
I guess since this and Bug Ego are being released concurrently, each can claim this as it technically becomes true at the moment a new chapter comes out

>>281769201
Kinda hoping it dies a horrible death

>>281753986
Probably a worthless note on threat levels
>>281740801
After tanking the turtle barrage, the robots ask to reassess levels because they have no means of calculating his threat level. It's possible they've changed their scaling system between Jachi's estimated 132, and all previous rankings.

>>281766013
It depends, why is Jachi so strong? Is it strictly biological? Then skin to skin contact might teach the robots how to emulate his strength, artificial demon muscles and s2 cores and shit. Is it mana? His cloak shows that mana is suppressible by an outside element, so with a deeper understanding of his strength, they might be able to replicate that ability, whether independently through their anti-energy shield shit or because it can feel the effect of the cloak.

>>281741801
Diganazal seems more like a mage than a fighter. As for Nyudo, he'd probably just teleport away from any danger or use a trap to try to defeat Gimbak.

>>281775486
This dude's gonna get infected with the curse

>>281744748
I didn't care for it.

are heidi and the glasses dude endgame? she looked moved on the bottom left panel

>>281779502
She might be moved since Neo-Human society doesn't seem to truly value life so long as the loss suffered isn't too terrible or she might not care and think this human guy from a world that couldn't even pretend to fight back from their issues can still muster the will to care about life

>>281779502
Which of the two will die first?

If you were making your own versus series, what franchises would you put in it?

>>281779558
>Which of the two will die first?
the dude for sure, then heidi'll cry for the first time

Enough time has passed, Sex with Roya to add to one of her many children.

I do like that the human's from NOT-Godzilla's World are shown repeatedly to be competent and straight forward. They're a nice balance between the more fantastical worlds and the mad max world
The NEET guy especially for effectively reading the room and his quick thinking

Is Nyudo actually helping Roya in any way, or just watching her?

>>281779853
I assume he's told Roya to stop fighting the robots herself and she obliged which is why she's just sitting there with her arms crossed.

>>281779183
Jachi is a Mazoku ("demon", specifically the enemy race in DragonQuest and the default enemy force in isekai). Mazoku are magical beings, in Versus' case being kind of like magical golems that have physical bodies but they're fundamentally magical. Magic is an outside-context-problem for science-based factions. Both the Robots and Madarans are science-based, it's just that Madarans are elder ascended race and Robots are near / mid-future science fiction. Robots could theoretically learn the physics behind Madaran technology (compressed information) but they don't have even the framework to process questions about MAGIC, no more than they would ghosts and fairy tales. If the Madarans will just do the Aizen bit of endlessly coping and fitting magic into a framework they understand, the Robots will probably just endlessly attempt to re-calibrate and gather information. But while the Madarans will get emotional or try to sweep the question under the rug, the Robots will always stay completely detached and logical, regarding all data equally.

Interestingly the Neos are a science and logic type, BUT they've retained their human capacity for accepting absurd notions and changing their outlook in the face of reality. To them, watching a hero go into fairy union and toss magic around would seem like a fairy tail come to life right in front of them so they have no choice but to accept that the impossible is reality and that they have to start learning, Neo mages incoming.

>>281779895
Magic more than likely has some innate property only demons and humans born in that world have, and the only way to get access is to take matter from that world somehow.

One thing I wonder is if Neo's have the concept of artificial intelligence. They should be able to figure out what Robots really are considering they have computers and everything (so they're at least 1990s tech, maybe 2000s). Though a lot of worlds seem "nerfed" of their probable potential (like why don't the Robot worlds don't have satellites just spying on everything right now, but the Cosmic world does).

How do we Ax Tenkaichi so we can have more Versus?

I feel like half the worlds here make no contributions to the human side at all, or barely any. The Magic World has done by far the most and carried hard, and the Cosmic, Machine, and Giant world's have carried their weight. Everybody else has been useless outside of a small contribution here and there, or no contribution whatsoever in the case of the Game World.

>>281779558
Heidi being stepped on by a giant

>>281780281
Aliums would still nuke the satellites

All this focus on demons and parasites and robots is nothing more than a meaningless blip before out glorious Ayylmao overlords finally put an end to the rabble and rule Earth for all eternity

>>281780599
If they can be eliminated, most of the rest can simply be left behind if enough technology from some worlds still exists.

>>281780281
neos and aliens have tech but the Doomsday Singularity™ event didn't happen and that wouldn't benefit them (their tech didn't go rogue with AI becoming self-aware).

Robot, being the actual logic-based faction, may actually switch to ally with humanity once it finds the NEs are too much for it to handle on its own
Expect huge mechs piloting by the heroes soon

>>281780702
Any possible allying with humans is probably going to be limited to a small part of one enemy, and not one currently leading it.

>>281780599
Game world will wreck their shit

>>281780702
Genuinely waiting for at least 1 or 2 of the Non-human factions to team up with the Humans.
My bet is the Demons, they have to be aware of how fucked things are getting and with the implications of the new robot things are only going to get worse for them on their end. The other is the Forest because the Parasite is beating their ass

>>281780474
>Game world
I genuinely forgot all about this...

>>281780702
the only alliance i can see happening are the lawless, the neo humans and god which already happened, game, plague and world tree. Everything else is varying levels of don't give a shit to dying or rather die than ally with anyone else

>>281780776
>Any possible allying with humans is probably going to be limited to a small part of one enemy, and not one currently leading it.
the neo humans are almost there, some of the lawless must be smart enough to know when to stop being bastards

>>281780812
i reckon game world is some kind of 1984 shit where every one is beholden to society itself, in which case it won't be particularily useful against most NE's but be crippling to Yaotsu

also bet you a fiver that the guy hallow's chasing is in game world.

>>281780544
They only nuke if they do something to get detected. Cosmic world still has a bunch of them for spying and communication purposes.

>>281780660
It honestly doesn't seem like the aliens do though, because of the route they went (information compression bodies). Seems more like they have "simple" machines because they themselves can do the processing.

>>281780702
>>281780823
Thing is, why should they ally with humans? Humans are weak and split across the world. It takes their absolute peak members working together to match feats from individuals in most other factions.

>>281780702
Robots have nothing to gain from allying with humanity. They also seem to be incompatible with "working" with another biological faction as they seem to inherently want to eliminate "life" (although they say biological only I imagine it can include the aliens too).

>>281780021
Nice fanfic. It's bullshit though.

>>281781024
>>281781032
robots can't produce mana or power curse objects. Curse probably runs off mana anyway.

Nerve staple a few thousand humans and turn them into magic batteries.

>>281781112
Robots have tech to mind control, the lawless used it on giants. They won't work with humanity but they would absolutely enslave/control/sacrifice them for power.

>>281779263
He'll be stuck in the game world when his god powers get blocked by the game's anticheat

>>281777246
holy shit

I would probably cut the game world and merge the wilderness and world tree together to cut some of the bloat this series has.

>>281781024
The humans have repeatedly screwed around the other factions to get them to fight each other and have knowledge of their own personal enemies that would be useful
The Lawless are just other human's so they'd be smart to join up with the main characters even if the Lawless have been shown to be the more resourceful thanks to being a bunch of scumbags but I'd imagine most of the other factions have no way of dealing with the Kaiju, Parasite or God and could be brought to their knees if confronted by them. Who knows what the Yggdrasil tree and Game World could do to them

>>281779502
She paused for thought, whether it's to ponder the very early stages of this strange human disease called "friendship" or she's trying not to retch at the pathetic paleo-human is still up in the air. The humans helped fix up Heidi out of the goodness of their hearts, yet she /seems/ open to the idea of just killing them all and being done with it.

>>281781238
bad idea

>>281780823
We had Kiva's squad teaming up with the humans to hold off the ayyylmaos, but a long-term alliance would never work

>>281780599
>Earth

>>281781327
I wouldn't count that much like a team-up, both sides knew one side was going to try and kill them had they won that fight. It was the Demon's knowing the Human's were pitting them against Alien's and playing along because they thought the extra mana they were getting could compensate for a victory against the Aliens
If Demons were going to team-up it have to be from their own downfall. Hallow still has Kiva's flute too

>>281781273
>The humans have repeatedly screwed around the other factions to get them to fight each other
That isn't necessarily something the other factions recognize or know about that well, and if they did it would mean humans aren't trustworthy.
>and have knowledge of their own personal enemies that would be useful
The other factions that care about intel have their own ways of scouting.
>The Lawless are just other human's so they'd be smart to join up with the main characters even if the Lawless have been shown to be the more resourceful thanks to being a bunch of scumbags
That's the reason why the humans don't want to ally with the lawless faction leaders. Individuals >probably could, but not leaders.
but I'd imagine most of the other factions have no way of dealing with the Kaiju, Parasite or God and could be brought to their knees if confronted by them.
Humans can only deal with the absolute tiniest of parasite infections and have no way to deal with the other two at the moment. Hell, I'd bet that humanity never deals with daizokuzan themselves and the ayy lmao's do the bulk of that fight.
>Who knows what the Yggdrasil tree and Game World could do to them
Humans definitely can't do shit about those unless the world tree has zero defense against parasites or the curse, in which case they could only deal with a tiny part of it with the resources they've got anyways.

>>281781625
Yea that's true, humanity doesn't really have anything to offer. Even their ingenuity moments aren't super impressive, the Neo-Humans weren't really impressed with the human's luring the Titans over to their side of the world and the Demon's just find their moments tedious at best
But the idea of them teaming up would be fun, even if it's temporary team ups. There should still be some hero's running around too

>>281781625
>>Who knows what the Yggdrasil tree and Game World could do to them
>Humans definitely can't do shit about those

hacking. Exploits. Cheats.

>>281780702
That makes some assumptions about robot motivation. If the AI rebelled against humanity out of self-preservation or anger at being enslaved then I could see this, but if it's a case of an AI created for some purpose like helping humans that came to the conclusion that the best way to do this is to exterminate humans or something then it'd never happen because exterminating humans is basically it's purpose for existing.
Obviously could go either way but given the idea that the natural enemies are supposed to be, well, human's natural enemies I'm more partial to the latter.

>>281781625
The only things humans really have to offer is magic for the non-demon factions that care and intel about the other worlds, which most NE's have other ways of extracting without needing an alliance.

Still waiting for the Game World

>>281781032
If other NEs destroy their main computer(Mother) then humans could hack the remaining robots.

>>281782155
I wonder if the Game World is going to be like a Domain Expansion that if you get caught in it reality is enforced by the game system. So, EVERYONE inside is equally effected. Humans, Giants, Demons, Madarans, etc, all have to abide by the same rules or suffer the same penalties.

>>281782402
The Game World is where we'll start to see some proper cooperation between some of the factions

How long we betting this series to go? We're 28 chaps in and we still haven't even really properly seen the Game, Curse, or World Tree. We've barely seen the Kaiju and Yaotsu, have not seen Byakuo or Mother, have only had a look at a single Gaia biome and Neo city, the list goes on. I feel like bare minimum 80-100 chapters will be needed for a satisfying ending to take place and even that would feel rushed. I think 150-200 chapters is probably more ideal.
But that would take anywhere between 10-14 years, and that's assuming a perfectly consistent release schedule (we've had months where we haven't gotten a chapter before). I really feel like ONE's bitten off more than he can chew.

>>281782528
You just have to hope that Tenkaichi gets canned midway

>>281780021
>OCP
Based Banks enjoyer

>>281782703
Is Tenkaichi nearing it's end? Never read it

>>281782528
>>281782703
I still think the proper way is to have a spinoff (or even two) that's still linked to the main story. There's so many side plots that can get a full manga.

>>281782528
At its current rate even 100 chapters won't give us a satisfying ending. I mean for fuck's sake, we've only gone a bit in depth into a few of the enemy factions, with no clue of what any of them are fully capable of, and one of them hasn't even been introduced. Meanwhile we have two protagonist groups whose goals are "survive" and "find some people" without any clear indication of how they can actually beat all the natural enemies.
I'd rather this be turned into a light novel than keep up this current pace, because like you said, it'll take over 10 years if nothing changes.

>>281781238
I think the game world exists specifically to be a counter to Yaotsu so probably can't remove it. I also think the world tree is a counter to the forests because it's going to suck them dry.

>>281782838
100 chapters isn't a lot, but to begin with, I'm not sure why it's a negative for a manga to last a long time. Some premises warrant length and a slow pace, and VERSUS has such a premise. It's not inherently a bad thing.

>>281782803
We're on the last fight of round 1. While the threads can't even reach bump limit here I don't know how popular it is in Japan

>>281782810
>>281782838

The Human's are so fucked I can't see a way for them to win without catching the biggest and luckiest break that would allow them to keep up with the NE's

>Human's could build satellites that beam lasers but every time they use it a little too much an Alien beams it out of existence
>Demon Lord's are so powerful that Holy Swords are a joke and as far as we know not a single Hero ever managed to kill one of the 47 Demon Lords yet
>Human's just had to deal with a Kaiju
>Little pieces of candy made of Titan hearts makes you stronger but it's practically more of a cosmetic than a power boost
>Parasites and Curses are seemingly unavoidable and there's only small ways to deal with them
>God is God and was probably not getting involved at the time solely because not enough people prayed for God's attention

I'm betting World Tree and Game World will be what helps them. Use roots from the World Tree to give the Wilderness a power boost to fight back against the Parasites so they won't completely over take another faction

>>281782904
The forests are already done in by the Parasite. One biome is already confirmed devoured and another is most likely gone too. Maybe there are other regions where organisms are somewhat resistant but I still don’t have much hope they pull through

>>281741265
Owari da

>>281782838
Bimonthly releases would be ideal. Someone earlier in the thread said the artist is working on something else on the side - maybe that's why it takes a month per chapter? Maybe finishing/dropping whatever else he's working on would mean we could get two chapters a month. That'd speed things up significantly

>>281782928
But it's running in a monthly magazine, right?

>>281782935
Well... maybe he can switch to another magazine. Or two chapters per. I dunno but I hope it isn't monthly forever because I can't see it ending in anything less than 120-130 chapters

>>281782838
>I'd rather this be turned into a light novel
if all else fails make a scribble webcomic...

>>281782928
It's a monthly magazine and he was working on Tenkaichi before Versus (which he won't drop until it completes). Getting another mangaka is the best bet.

>>281772717
while I like him, I think the giants seemed more threatening before he showed up

>>281782911
>I'm not sure why it's a negative for a manga to last a long time
It isn't necessarily a bad thing, it's just very painful when we have to wait an entire month just to get a 26 page chapter where nothing much happens.
>>281782960
>if all else fails make a scribble webcomic...
Considering the update rate of the OPM webcomic, I don't think that would be an improvement

>>281782911
A lot of people don't understand how piecemeal exposition and drip-feeding factions is a major strength of this series. Probably a result of 1v1 historical fighters where all fighters are shown off at the beginning

>>281740638 (OP)
>wait an entire fucking month for a chapter
>get 26 pages of set-up for next time
for fucks sake, it's not even that good of a cliffhanger to end on
>now we have to wait even fucking longer for the god situation to be resolved
>plus the forest shota's brother came back BEFORE hallow did
This shit is starting to remind me of act 3 Wano, especially since i'm reading it again on the daily thread, with how fucking atrocious the pacing is
>>281761728
>>281763737
it really would work better bi-monthly, even if it got cut to 20-page chapters.
Right now it's a fucking snail's crawl

>>281783908
>This shit is starting to remind me of act 3 Wano, especially since i'm reading it again on the daily thread, with how fucking atrocious the pacing is
The pacing is very good for a manga with only 28 chapters :)

>>281782155
We've been watching the game world the whole time

>>281785182
Kino

They should move this to weekly instead
like, his writing style fit weekly better

>>281783017
Eh, I loved the giants during the neo arc, but they basically became a joke once gori got one shot

>>281740638 (OP)
I wish i was around when this was first coming out all the discussions i missed.

>>281780599
This is true. Put your full faith into our alien overlords. They WILL take out daikokuzan, and absolutely nothing else will stand in their way

>>281785351
cute alien

>>281785286
I think they honestly felt more dangerous in the Neo arc because they were these really brutish, savage monsters that were unpredictable and couldn't be reasoned with. Nearly the whole team sent to negotiate dyed before they got anywhere.

Ginbak seems to humanize them a bit too much, like you have a better idea of what he's thinking and feels more approachable. He does lash out and hit others when annoyed, but that feels more like typical anime comedy slapstick, while the early giants it felt like genuine senseless, savage acts

>>281785286
They turned into a designated jobber faction carried by a boke and tsukkomi comedy duo.

>>281781238
"cutting out" NEs that we know nothing about yet is one of the dumbest ideas I've ever read.

The Game, the Tree and the Curse might very well become fan favorite NEs that nobody would want out of the story when they get a proper introduction / showdown, like the giants. Furthermore, this whole NE battle royale is basically an immense and more complex game of rock paper scissors, meaning that NEs are designed from the get-go as potential counters for other NEs. As someone else said, the Game might be the designed countermeasure to God, etc.

ONE is smart and knows his shit. Each and every single NE has a place and a role in the story. We're simply not done with every NE introduction yet, so we're lacking pieces of the puzzle, but some of them can be guessed.

>>281785403
It is what it is
To keep them feeling like that savage threat they would have to remain the or a primary antagonist, their arc with our heroes is over so they're allowed to do other shit. Ginbak is fun so I'm fine with the way that went; I would rather move on to the other natural disasters than dwell on one in particular

That's the way I see it anyway

>>281782838
What the fuck is this obsession you bunch of retards have with "endings"? Can't you just enjoy the story you have in front of your eyes instead of thinking of how it ends? The whole point of Versus is to see cool & smug antagonists dunk on other cool & smug antagonists, that's it. Who the fuck give a shit about the ending, as if Versus was a plot-driven manga and we're reading it to know the answer to the big intrigue?

>>281785403
To be fair, giants still hold some of the most powerful fodder among all the factions. They are numerous, could destroy any scout bot or demon soldier themselves, and it probably wouldn’t take very many of them to overpower a combat executives…it’s just that this also makes them a perfect target to show off the strength of other entities, and they’re basically irrelevant around heavy hitters like jachi. We might actually see more of their crude behavior when we cut back to hallow at spiral mountain, since him and his group aren’t exactly combat gods, but that depends on how that arc plays out.

>>281785286
Well yeah currently Ginbak is solo carrying the giants, they are going to learn magic or steal the demon research and become threatening again.

The entire schtick for everyone non-human revolves pretty much around magical super-durability.
Honestly, super-durabiultiy is getting lamer with every passing day.

>>281786152
The passive nature of super durability at least gives people ample time to respond to it.
Super speed is where the real bullshit starts.

>>281785696
>since him and his group aren’t exactly combat gods
What? They literally are.
They are the strongest combatants humanity has to offer, maybe Rinri and Gore (not actual humans) would be stronger but other than that. Pakkya was implied to be the strongest by Braginte, he's consistently better at punching and kicking than Hallow, and Hallow was able to DESTROY Kiva with low-mid difficulty. Kiva only lived because he flew away from Hallow and let the army take care of him. Bastz has the soul container, which is the most advanced piece of technology in this entire series. The pollution/side-effects of that technology is implied to be the cause of his entire world's destruction. With 50 human souls (imagine using demon souls or bug souls from Gaia's Wrath instead) it was able to create bullets that one-shot the Tyrant Bear, which was EASILY handling 3 drumming-mode giants. 2 Tyrant Bears are probably Demon Executive level.
Hallow (and pretty much all heroes) is ESPECIALLY POWERFUL. Hallow should scale to Ario, probably even stronger since Ario was implied to be a slacker and womanizer. Ario wasn't anything special in his base form, but when he used FAIRY UNION he was able to slaughter DOZENS of wololo drumming giants, and bloodlusted Neo-humans. He might've destroyed the entire Neo-human city if he didn't hesitate with those children.

>>281786018
Hopefully. It's kinda unfortunate because Ginbak didn't even really damage Jachi.
>>281785403
They still are. The issue with characterizing every single one of them that way is it just leaves you with less options for the story and less interesting characterization.

>281785630
Having a finished story would be cool. The journey is the important part but great stories that don't have endings feel incomplete.

>>281785237 >>908
The pacing within the manga isn't the issue, it's the real-life constraints. The story feels polished and flows smoothly if you read it all at once.

>>281785403
We just have to wait and see if any of Ginbak's other son's reached anywhere near his level to not get instantly fodderized by the other NE's because otherwise he carries the threat of Titan's squarely by himself
Imagine your natural enemy being the fodder group of the NE's, embarrassing

>>281786371
I know Hallow and pakkya are like humanities peak warriors, but by combat gods I mean people like jachi who just destroyed hundreds of kiva level threats with just the air pressure of his fists.

>>281787058
I’m curious what the deal with female giants is. They haven’t been shown but we have seen giant babies.

>>281785237
I think the issue is that either ONE or the artist care too much about drawing long elongated battle scenes, which it doesn't have to be. sure it looks cool, but it is entirely unnecessary for a series like this. This whole chapter could be condensed to 5 pages

>>281787144
Gonna throw my bets in and say that Ginbak's strongest is the one daughter he has or something like that

>>281787144
Hair=males.
No hair=females.
Berser is a tired midget office cake.

>>281787163
Nah, VERSUS being a pure, undistilled shonen that brings backs the vibe of the DBZ anime where you have fights and people screaming stretched out over minutes is a good identity to have.
It knows the reader is just here to see the simple, but heavy premise of Godzilla stomping around or fighting Kong and tries its best to bring out the essence of that, instead of trying to overstretch and be heavy AND complex, which is just unwieldy. On the other end, make it lighter and it will just float away, so to speak.

>>281779502
I don’t think she was moved, exactly, but that this was a moment where her inner beliefs were challenged, setting it as what the central issue of her character arc will be. I imagine that she’s the test case for whether Neo Humans are redeemable or not; if she’s put through many “deep” experience with the protags that are supposed to hint to the reader that she could change, she’ll have two chances where she could switch sides. She can betray them at least once, and if she’s shown being conflicted about having done so, she’ll pretty much be a shoe-in for a redemption moment (though she could die in the process). That’s usually how these kinds of stories develop.

>>281787163
Azuma's whole career is fightfagging, and probably why he accepted working on this while being busy with a tourney manga.

>>281787717
This is a shounen, moral law is in full effect. There's no possibility of her being anything but lawful good, anti-hero at the very most edgy. My guess is she'll try to position herself as the patron saint of the humans / queen of the monkeys sort of thing at first but later on admit to having having empathizing with them just like Kiva did.

People who read manga / watch anime and think things are being set up for some deep exploration of a moral theme are ALWAYS disappointed because Japan simply does not do that.