Thread 281745868

There is nothing more otaku than feminism.

Anno represents otaku, Miyazaki is anti-otaku. And Eva is literally an incel diary scaled up to cosmic proportions.

>>281745868 (OP)
What the tumblr theorists failed to recognize is that otaku subculture used objectification for an alternate purpose to the mainstream, a specific form of representation that is directly comparable to the ancient practices of idolatry which held that icons changed the world and whoever observed them. It’s a divergence that trends toward the reinvention of goddess cultism, even with evident divisions between parthenos and fertile mother focal points. Just like the ancient cults who recognized Eros as the moving force of reality, the otaku artists recognized fetishism as the power in hypnosis.

Kiki makes me laugh with how on the nose it is with that opening scene where you have the maiden, mother, and matriarch in their garden laboratory before the girl must go on a journey to find the center of her maturing power. Even if you want to say most of the subtle level comes from the original story, Miyazaki clearly understood the mission and used the medium’s ultimate power to manifest the adaption.

>>281745977
>Miyazaki is anti-otaku
What the fuck are you talking about
Miyazaki is one of the biggest otaku on Earth

>>281745868 (OP)
Close social media and read a book for once in your life, please.

Waifufaggotry and feminism are two different things.

>>281745868 (OP)
Are you the same loser that makes threads claiming that being an otaku is the japanese equivalent of being an american counter culture hippie?

>>281746239
/x/ is that way schizo

>>281746396
If you liked anime you'd know that western esotericism is often intentionally alluded to by japanese directors.

>>281746435
I like anime, I know this, I know more about both subjects than you do, and you're a total schizo

>>281746254
And yet he and Anno still manage to make influential media.

>>281745868 (OP)
Trvke drop

>>281746480
If you knew that then you wouldn't have told him to go to another board. Why do you lie?

>>281745977
Miyazaki is a defining figure for otaku purely because he’s a master of the craft who has been literally inspiring children to join the industry for generations. His works have been fairly clear mirrors of Japanese “mainstream counterculture” that at least tries to wave big issues like environmentalism or postwar political navel gazing about the undecided reckoning with fascism in the faces of the public, so they are always resonant with contemporary experience. Even in terms of fetishism, Miyazaki is an entry point into the deeper pools of subculture. He’s foundational even if he hates what people are building and I can’t blame him since his dire warnings themselves just go ignored as people dream about being force fed by a wolfish girl.

Simultaneously, I think Nausicaa, San, etc. all demonstrate how easily a conspiracy of women to initiate rebellion by specifically granting permission to selected men by posing as archetypal figures might actually be.

>>281746534
I want him to leave because he's a moron and I don't want him here.

But I hate fat women.

>>281746509
Being an otaku is good for making anime, of course.
Did you know that all great authors that wrote great books were literature otaku?
That all great directors are cinema otaku?
That's how it fucking works, people who are obsessed with the media they work with make better product that people that aren't obsessed.

>>281746611
>He’s foundational even if he hates what people are building
He's a supreme gatekeeper and extremely autistic about what good anime is.
And he dislikes other lolicons because
1) they don't like the same loli as he does
2) he's a giant purityfag, so much so that he was jealous of Conan because Lana loved him
>it should have been me, not him!

japs are very estrogen and onions based people now probably from all the noodles they eat. especially after they got nuked and became more passive. there is still masculinity that shines through with stuff like fist of the north star, baki, etc but those are exceptions not the rule.

>>281745868 (OP)
This feels like Skeletor telling me to recycle.

>>281746760
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/testosterone-levels-by-country
Average testosterone level in 2025
>USA : 459 ng/dL
>Japan : 509 ng/dL
Mmmmh

>>281746760
>iconic franchises with worldwide popularity that influenced subsequent popular franchises
>exceptions not the rule
ok retard

>>281746719
I love how bona fides is instantly established by unhinged artistic expression in interviews. When you see statements like that you can’t even question it.

>>281746760
>Fist of the North Star
What dispute does Kenshiro have with Shin?

>>281746892
>dude science

averages don't mean jack shit. my T levels are over 1000. the average jap boy is a sissy crossdressor addicted to vtubers

>>281747020
>the average jap boy is a sissy crossdressor addicted to vtubers
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/lgbtq-population-by-country
LGBTQI+ Population in 2025
>USA : 10%
>Japan : 4%
Statistically, it's twice and a half more probable that you're a sissy crossdresser before a Japanese is by numbers alone, considering the USA has over twice the population of Japan

>>281745868 (OP)
Unironically yes, it's been a staple since the very beginning of anime honestly.

>>281746959
I meant in the sense that those kind of shows are pretty much about a handful worth especially now as the genre dies out. there are literally thousands and millions of gay moe sol isekai garbage getting pumped out.

>>281747127
There are more manga/anime about being strong manly hypermacho man right now that ever in the history of anime & manga by virtue of the industry being 100 times larger and every single niche being explored in search of profit.

>>281747069
Because japs don't consider themselves to be LGBT thats a american new thing of trooning out with mentally ill people. japan literally invented cross dressing and made it popular in the west.

>>281746520
*dud

>>281747175
>japan literally invented cross dressing and made it popular in the west.
Some of the first recorded cases of cross dressing is from the Iliad, but okay

>>281747175
>japan literally invented cross dressing
i will stop arguing with you, because you're clearly a retard and it's useless to reason with people like you.

>>281747232
you are coping really hard right now. its okay buddy. just stop eating so much rice and noodles and your t levels will come back up.

>>281747127
And all of them combined pale in comparison to the juggernaut that is Demon Slayer, a series about buff boys doing action things. A major side character has a harem. Another is a moeblob titcow who uses gymnastics as a fighting style. That’s the series plastered on posters all over the country, and in theaters around the world. It even inherits a lot of old school otaku notions that would be at home in Miyazaki flicks like mad respect for the working class or the grand subversion of villainy showing the circumstances that drive despairing people to become monsters that shows up all over anime.

>>281747279
if you think demon slayer is masculine then you are off track. demon slayer author is female. its fake masculine made to appeal to betas and women.

>>281747355
The authors of the Iliad, the Odyssey and most basically all of Western mythos are females.
These were oral stories that mothers told to their children, passed down generations.

>>281747381
the author of the iliad and odyssey was homer. are you retarded?

>>281747355
If you think Baki is masculine I have bad news for you

>>281747265
Did you know Heracles dressed as a girl to train with Amazons? The guy who used so much of the good stuff that he went blind, Tiresias, reported having undergone a full transformation into a woman and even giving birth, the most trying thing in his/her vast life. There are vast traditions of temporary and permanent transitions throughout cultures before the monist terror of fundamentalism.

>>281747355
How is it any different from Fist of the North Star? Even the kids are bulked out man-monsters and they’re often joined by a giant martial arts master man for each arc. There are even a number of token pretty boys in the cast to fill out the usual roster. Evil people try to beat up on innocents and the heroes jump into action to trade attack rushes and special techniques as friend and foe alike get hacked apart in the desperate struggle between good and evil.

>>281747441
>Homer was a real dude
Open a book you retarded faggot
Not even ancient Greeks themselves believed Homer was real

>>281747468
cope

>>281747484
your cherry picking now.

regarding demon slayer I mean yeah the idea itself is masculine and has masculine moments but its just mimicing the later. thats all that females can do is mimic its a imitation.

>>281747572
Your contrarian bullshit is so weak you can’t even cherrypick lol
Should we look at the similar phenomenon series of My Hero Academia that’s also about a roided up boy fighting bad people in the thrall of the image of a jacked American action hero?

>>281747020
You're a fat soiboi who thinks he's masculine because of a pube beard.

>>281747645
Dude crying every 5 seconds like a bitch and getting cucked isn’t masculine at all deku is a sissy protagonist. Again a mimic and imitation of actual masculine comic books

>>281746673
Yeah, I'm just adding to your point. One of the reasons Japanese media is so great IMO is cause they aren't snobbish towards iteration.

>>281747859
I don’t have facial hair because I’m clean shaven like a real Chad I don’t. Need to hide behind a beard since I’m not fat either

>>281747886
>Dude crying
>getting cucked
The plot of Hokuto no Ken

>>281747355
The anime was made masculine via the action. The manga is dogshit, yes.

>>281747509
There's literal gay sex

>>281747508
Iliad was orated in person.

>>281748031
Gay sex is masculine if you are the top there’s nothing more manly then dominating another man and making him your bitch.

>>281748127
>I want to fuck man because I'm a real man
Go on, I'm listening

>>281748081
The Iliad that we have today is the result of combining hundred of individual stories from across centuries and various local cultures that spanned from the Caucasian mountain range down to the Levant into a coherent narrative after a work of cut-and-paste with heavy editing by numerous rhapsodes that made changes to appease the lord whome they served and the subject is set about a thousand years older before the people that ultimately codified it in a written form
Retard

>>281748237
That’s literally just your opinion, stupid. Plenty of historians do not agree with the notion exactly because of the coherency.

>>281748237
Dipshit really going to act like he knows the facts about some poem from over how many millennia ago. What a tool.

>>281748307
>That’s literally just your opinion
This has been the mainstream opinion in philology for decades, and some entire sections of the poem are noted, by even those who like you argue against this, to have been later additions to an older text due to excessive differences in lexico-syntaxial structure

>>281748336
You don't even know who your father is

Feminism doesn’t mean anything. Every single position is contradicted by other feminists.

>>281745868 (OP)
BASED Uncle Go pretend he use "feminism" only for satisfying his lewd fetishes drawing shitons of nude and half-nude waifus with big boobies.

Miyazaki is an old beta cuck commie with unironic lefty feminism and a pedo fetish and can get away with it for some reason.

YAMATO DAMASHII is with Go Nagai

>>281747572
achilles was hidden on an island of women dressed up in a slutted out little outfit

>>281745868 (OP)
it's a nice thought but most of the shit being pumped out in the last 15 years or so is largely misogynistic and reeks of incel frustration. not even the sexualization side of things, just how girls or women are written, they're more and more one dimensional and it genuinely drags down a show

>>281748587
Crossdressing isn’t inherently feminine. Do you know how many women wear guys clothes? Does that make them masculine? No.

>>281748155
Just hand over the boy pussy and nobody gets hurt capisce?

>>281748237
>>281748391
you're overstating your point. It's not a clear cut fact and modern scholarship does not have a consensus. Also philologists don't have ultimate authority on the subject of a dead language and what parts were from what era.

The oral tradition side is a widely spread theory but it, along with what you're describing, does not preclude the possibly of the poems being largely structured and authored by a singular source (Homer) and continuously modified.

all that being said, i doubt it was just a bunch of women passing down the story

>>281748127
Lmao, here comes the bargaining.

>>281748532
Go Nagai should be looked at as a feminist icon who baited Japanese men into bringing their predatory perversions to the surface. He gave horny teenage boys and lecherous men what they wanted so the popularity attracted a reaction from the conservative mainstream in the form of calls for censorship despite the exposure of the real feelings of the male population reflected in his works that itself contradicted the authority of puritanical culture in the first place. He just put into his manga the way boys and men were actually behaving, that’s how the voyeurism is so impactful rooted in things like peeping on girls changing in high school and other real scenarios.

>>281748587
achilles in particular was super gay. i think if you're pretty enough as a man in any era, you just end up being a metrosexual slut

>>281748587
So they had their tropes.

>>281749047
>all that being said, i doubt it was just a bunch of women passing down the story
Who does Homer invoke as part of the semi-magical opening lines?

>>281749154
Or ripoffs. Like JJK. And most religious texts.

>>281749102
Bro gay sex is based. You just don’t understand male bondship. It’s much more gay acting sheepish around a women that wants to nag you death and waste your time. Spartans would have hot gay sex bust a nut and then it was back to war and combat the next moment. You have been lied to to keep you in check real men aren’t petty with fragile sexuality. Just bust a nut how you want to faggot

>>281748127
Itagaki, what are you doing posting on 4chan?

>I assure you dear reader, empowering this female character and embedding social commentary into his work was absolutely necessary for the author's FETISH!
KEK the fucking state of nu-otaku. Imagine not just having to deal with your hobby's leftist roots but even CARING about what the fucking Mongolian basket weaver was originally thinking so much you need to cope that hard. Absolutely cucked.

>>281745868 (OP)
Anime was a mistake.

>>281749162
touche

>>281745868 (OP)
Oh yeah, specially because of the fanservice, right?

Retard.

>>281745868 (OP)
>feminist bait OP devolves into gay sex discussion because people can't even agree on what is supposed to be masculine
There's some sort of lesson here

>>281747381
Bro where the fuck are you getting the idea that they were all ackshualy written by women?

>>281751420
He is a retard desperately grasping for straws

>>281751166
Muses, Fates, Memory, Justice, Vengeance, War, Victory, Democracy, Death, and the Creating Mother. It all comes from women, a society where you could be special like Achilles if your mom was a nymph and even the victorious king of the Achaeans was cut down by the queen for the crime of abducting and defiling an oracle. The influence of such a matriarchal state of affairs is still so strong a thousand years later that the Romans turn to oracles and obey their commands when the second Punic war hangs in the balance, importing an idol of Cybele from Pergamum to make themselves worthy.

>>281751970
You have no idea what you are talking about.

>>281745868 (OP)
And marxism, you have to be an autist to study it and think it's valid.