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Anonymous No.281760036 >>281760144 >>281760185 >>281760199 >>281760216 >>281760261 >>281760655 >>281760836 >>281760912 >>281761029 >>281761050 >>281761136 >>281761369 >>281761681 >>281763162 >>281764959 >>281765118 >>281766419 >>281767752
>the plot doesn't make sense therefore deep
Anonymous No.281760144 >>281760568
>>281760036 (OP)
why did you put Haibane there?
Anonymous No.281760164 >>281767570
you know that you can basically get stabbed for this opinion? you better watch out when you walk on the street
Anonymous No.281760185 >>281760223 >>281760239 >>281761672
>>281760036 (OP)
almost all of them have plots that make sense...
Anonymous No.281760199
>>281760036 (OP)
Kino
Anonymous No.281760216
>>281760036 (OP)
>i am a brainlet
why out yourself like that?
Anonymous No.281760223 >>281760431
>>281760185
id say all of them, you'd have to make inferences as opposed to having exposition dumps like marvel movies

i like the stories from the OP because it is impossible to be spoiled by others who talk about it. you'd have to see it in context to have an understanding of it
Anonymous No.281760239 >>281760431 >>281766153
>>281760185
find two people who can come up with the same plot summary of lain. oh wait, you can't
Anonymous No.281760253
lol
Anonymous No.281760261
>>281760036 (OP)
These examples are the odd, weird, confusing Japanese writings if you don't know. It's for artistic purpose therefore it might not be for everyone.
Anonymous No.281760287 >>281760939
True
Anonymous No.281760288
Angel Egg is the most boring slop ever animated.
Anonymous No.281760431
>>281760239
idk, you should be able to find some easily from the highest level fans
>>281760223
>you'd have to see it in context to have an understanding of it
i agree with this, that's what makes them great
sonny boy is ambiguous on purpose there isn't a conventional plot, ergo proxy may not make sense, and tenshi no tamago doesn't even have a plot
so i'd say except those 3 all have sensible plots
Anonymous No.281760568
>>281760144
Utena is also very clear and straightforward. And I've never seen people claim it's complicated or hard to understand.
Anonymous No.281760655
>>281760036 (OP)
Angel Eggs is at least short so it doesn't waste my time
Anonymous No.281760836
>>281760036 (OP)
Anonymous No.281760912
>>281760036 (OP)
Shows like Haibane Renmei have mysterious elements with a straightforward plot. Ik it's bait but it makes the board collectively retarded whether you "ironically" do it or not
Anonymous No.281760939
>>281760287
Aunt incest is hot is the plot
Anonymous No.281761027
>the ship is incest therefore good
Anonymous No.281761029
>>281760036 (OP)
How is Eva hard to understand?
Anonymous No.281761050
>>281760036 (OP)
it's a vibe o*dtroon
Anonymous No.281761136 >>281761157 >>281761262 >>281762700
>>281760036 (OP)
You can make art that moves people without needing some inherent meaning or literally interpretation. People are moved to tears by music, that's purely emotional. So something like Angel's Egg has value because its visually stunning and the atmosphere is incredible. I love that film.
There's no reason why you can't apply that same logic to narratives though. Something can have a great amount of depth in terms of its themes, and the philosophical arguments it presents, without needing to resolve any extraneous bit of lore or tie all the loose ends together. You can be left dissatisfied by something like that, sure, but it depends one what matters to you specifically. Anno himself admitted a lot of the religious iconography in Evangelion was superficial, but that doesn't mean everything is - the core of Evangelion is Shinji, and by exploring his character, Anno works through a load of his own nihilistic thoughts in order to find a different, optimistic outlook by the end. The show still resonates with people because of that emotional core, all the other stuff is cool, but that's why the show has had the legacy that it has. That and waifu console war faggotry.
So yes, a show can not make logical sense in terms of narrative coherence, and still be deep thematically and emotionally, so long as there is actual substance there.
David Lynch is my favourite director, and I can't tell you what half of his films actually mean definitively, but they still mean a lot to me.
Anonymous No.281761157
>>281761136
>literally
*literal
Anonymous No.281761262 >>281761461
>>281761136
>my favourite director, and I can't tell you what half of his films actually mean definitively
sounds like pseudointellectualism
Anonymous No.281761369
>>281760036 (OP)
Sonny Boy is so shit stain level plot with NTR
Anonymous No.281761461
>>281761262
Well, how would you define pseudointellectualism? I can give you my own interpretations for each of the films I've seen, but in each case the thing I love about his films first and foremost is the atmosphere he creates. Am I a speud for liking a film, even if I admit I only really care about the experience of watching it, rather than dissecting every insignificant detail to piece together my own schizophrenic explanation for every little absurd thing that happens in it?
Anonymous No.281761672 >>281761725 >>281763219 >>281764869
>>281760185
Except for Sonny Boy since the director refused to make a coherent plot. You donโ€™t lose the philosophical muh deep plot by making the story coherent. Just look at Nier Automata.
Anonymous No.281761681 >>281761708
>>281760036 (OP)
dumb zoomer, go watch some shonen slop
Anonymous No.281761708
>>281761681
>muh shonen
rent free
Anonymous No.281761725
>>281761672
>You donโ€™t lose the philosophical muh deep plot by making the story coherent.
but then the show won't be glazed for being deep
Anonymous No.281762700
>>281761136
fax, i love "plot holes", unresolved threads, asspulls, or personality changes because people endlessly talk about it for ever

if it were perfect, informative, and inoffensive then it would be forgettable like a twitch advert
Anonymous No.281763162 >>281764729
>>281760036 (OP)
I understand being too retarded for penguindrum but Eva, Utena and Ergo Proxy have nothing deep about them. The director of Eva has gone on record and said people seeing all these "deep meanings" are more or less retardes, because he only put in things he thought looked cool.
Anonymous No.281763219
>>281761672
Schindler's List reference?
Anonymous No.281763697 >>281764268 >>281764315 >>281764767
Anonymous No.281764268
>>281763697
Anonymous No.281764315
>>281763697
Youโ€™re right. They donโ€™t try to be pretentious and instead give the viewers great episodic stories with good lessons.
Anonymous No.281764729 >>281764848
>>281763162
>because he only put in things he thought looked cool.
so you're just agreeing with me
Anonymous No.281764767
>>281763697
What do they have in common?
Anonymous No.281764848 >>281764951
>>281764729
No because your point is about 9 different anime not just one. Eva isn't deep, or complex. Other things listed there are, and you're clearly too retarded to understand.
Anonymous No.281764869
>>281761672
Nier is probably the funniest comparison because it's esoteric for the exact opposite reason of sonny boy, because the yoko taro added so much plot and backstory that requires you to dig through every piece of side media for all the references to fully understand what's happening in the story
Anonymous No.281764951 >>281764990
>>281764848
>not just one
>Eva, Utena and Ergo Proxy have nothing deep about them
Anonymous No.281764959
>>281760036 (OP)
>I am too stupid to understand therefore it is deep
many such cases
Anonymous No.281764990 >>281765064
>>281764951
Don't misconstrue my posts retard. You replied about Eva(singular show) I replied about the same.
Anonymous No.281765064 >>281765096
>>281764990
>Other things listed there are
>Eva, Utena and Ergo Proxy have nothing deep about them
Anonymous No.281765096 >>281765125
>>281765064
I'm starting to understand why these shows filtered you. Even when I explained it clearly you're still latching onto your own retardation.
Anonymous No.281765118
>>281760036 (OP)
Evangelion make perfect sense.
Ergo proxy too, it's just shit.
Habane isn't about being deep.
Utena and pinguin are 2symbolic4u if you're not japanese but they make sense.
Lain does make sense, it's just confused.
Anonymous No.281765125 >>281765324
>>281765096
Maybe stop contradicting yourself in every sentence?
Anonymous No.281765324
>>281765125
>I point out specifics
>retard makes a blanket statement
>I disagree with it as a general statement because it's wrong and explain clearly that I specified Eva
>S..s.....STOP contradicting yourself!!!

You might currently be the lowest iq person on this website, and that's including b v and the lgbt boards.
Anonymous No.281765774
Idblt
Anonymous No.281766153
>>281760239
Girl buys computer, becomes god
Anonymous No.281766419
>>281760036 (OP)
add bogiepop phantom
Anonymous No.281767570
>>281760164
He shouldโ€ฆ for having such retarded opinions
Anonymous No.281767629 >>281769030
I hate you people.
Anonymous No.281767752
>>281760036 (OP)
Anonymous No.281769030
>>281767629
Me too