Thread 281772495

ISEKAI STATUS: RIZZLED!

>>281772495 (OP)
Yup
Genre's faded
This is even worse in LNs and WNs. Narou stopped giving a fuck hence why Kadokawa has writting isekai contests for westerners

We have 2 more seasons before 2025 is over.

>>281772880
Yeah, this.

>>281772837
I hate that they have narrowed the prompts for that contest every year and now it’s just trend chasing, but the trend they locked in for this year is already dead.

Is it finally over??

Is that counting the ones that are like "The S-Rank Hero Was Born With The Weakest Skill" that are exactly like isekai but without the isekai intro?

>>281774317
At some point you will learn "isekai" has become a buzzword term to be racist against anything from japan (that isn't jew kosher approved like modern shounenslop) without explicitly naming race and thus being unable to get called wacist.
It was the exact same thing that happened to vidya and the "JRPG" term and music and the "J-pop" term.
And mind you just like in vidya that you get people being unable to accept FROMslop is by definition a JRPG, you also get the same in anime and people refusing to admit dandandan is technically an isekai by the definition they use due to using the same definition to call shit like solo gookening an isekai.

>>281774317
yeah, so i think some people are writing plots where they take out the isekai part but go straight to the redemption or revenge main themes
kicked out of party and now i'm enjoying slow life
S rank healer is actually the strongest person
getting revenge where everyone leaves the main group and joins MC
etc

these are all as uninteresting as isekai but that's par for course when it comes to WN/LN writing

>>281774093
What's this years trend?

>>281775932
>jew kosher approved like modern shounenslop
One of the most popular shounen right now is an incredibly overt anti immigration piece

>>281776070
shoelacer shit is not even isekai most of the time anon

>>281776113
I'm talking about goyslop like MHA, JJK and OPM bruhdder.

Even japan officially categorizes rpg fantasies as "isekai."
You people need to stop getting mad over semantics and just accept it.

>>281774317
>>281776070
This is why isekai won't permanently die. It will just reincarnate into a more overpowered version

>>281776627
>semantics
Isekai just means other world.

>>281776627
anon, this is not official from "japan", this is just kadokawa trying to pull their own smash bros and using the "isekai" label as marketing

>>281776627
Out of this entire list the only ones that aren't actually isekai are shangrila (unless they already pulled dendro's ayylmao shit), the shield bitch (Vrmmo slop), and goblin slayer (dnd world).
SAO became isekai after going full alice, nageki is technically an isekai but the isekaijin isn't the MC, pii chan also pulled multiverse shit later on, and I think that's kinda it.
Also out of this entire list not even half have RPG systems and status screens.

>>281776090
Dunno if it's the same that anon is refering to, but there's a contest open for all-ages isekai in Honeyfeed. I started writing but the whole thing seemed like a desperate grab for readers that I'm not going to post there.

The just remove the isekai part.

>The mc get kicked from party
>The mc retired from party and do slow life in village
>The mc just become a teacher in hero academy

Its maybe bad, but there is a reason some people use native isekai term to mock these kind of series.

>>281777092
>>281776090
I did mean Honeyfeed, and yeah this year the entire prompt is just isekai. When it first started a few years ago there were like 4 major genre divisions with multiple subcategories and isekai was just one of many.

>>281772495 (OP)
90s isekai is not isekai
Only naroushit is isekai

>>281777176
Correct term is naroushit
All of this garbage is from jap wattpad, if you know that you know everything there is to know

>>281777176
I unironically dont understand the kicked from the party subgenre. I dont get it

>>281777853
They typically feature a MC who is unappreciated by his party until he is gone, meanwhile he finds new (usually harem of beautiful women) that do appreciate him. Like most of these isekai and isekai-adjacent stories it is wish fulfillment playing on how worthless to society the average Japanese salaryman feels.

>>281777853
its kino

>>281772495 (OP)
>that chart
Covid butchered the anime industry and people are unwilling to accept it.

>>281772495 (OP)
isekai?

>>281777950
>fulfillment playing on how worthless to society the average Japanese salaryman feels.
I think that's a fine idea I guess but so many of them are like
>I was kicked from the hero's party because my super mega team buffing skill and ability to heal everyone instantly was a not a dps skill
It kind of beats the point. Like if a record company drops their top producers or some shit I dont know.

>>281777176
>>281777853
>>281777950
I thought the term was shoelacer

>>281776743
Mom's Basement got isekaied

>>281778073
that's the point isn't it? your average entry-level office worker who got fired and indulges in anime to cope will think they're the glue that holds the entire operation together

>>281777853
>>281777950
>>281778073
Let's see...we have:

>Yami Healer
>Beast Master
>Fugukan (except he was legit useless until he got blessed by Elf)
>that kid who can mine dragons
>etc.

>>281777853
a lot of wageslaves have a revenge/karma fantasy when they leave their job
the fantasy usually involves what they see as incompetent leaders finally getting fucked after their severely underpaid, overworked unicorn leaves
the "kicked out of party" scenario is basically that wageslave revenge fantasy in isekai form

>>281774317
>>281776070
>>281776628
native isekai like frieren are taking all the steam out of isekai

>>281776797
7th Prince also isn't isekai. The MC is reincarnated, but into the same world he died in.

>>281778604
it could be that they realized the MC doesn't need to be japanese to enjoy middle ages not-yurope

>>281777242
thats not even the proper term either when it was never the main WN site in the first place, that would be yomu

>>281778105
It's notable how the last few days there were suddenly so many more "isekai... bad!" posts going around after that eceleb you mentioned had posted a video. For once I took the ragebait and watched it and it was as expected. Arguments full of holes, logical contradictions and fallacies.
Oh so you have to blow the entirely load of the "getting isekai'd" aspect in the first 5% or so of the story as the first season only covers that, maybe in some rarer cases up-to 15% of the entire story? It sounds ridiculous. Also the MC has to have had a super flashy colorful shounen MC live before getting isekai'd and likewise has to be super impressionable, because if the MC doesn't have quirky exaggerating reactions and very clear and visible changes in behavior or personality then they somehow "aren't real characters" or such.
The worst part is that he can't really commit either. He pussied out from actually telling the names of what he considers bad. Just random clips of which it's often not clear if it's meant as a positive or negative example. That's the same problem with the "isekai... bad!" (or GENTLEMEN, as they are referred to) crowd we always had here as well.

>>281779716
which mind you is even more comical when he made a "mushocuck is ART" video not that long ago
he really is a retard normalfag with the most milquetoast opinions imaginable

>>281772495 (OP)
Nice.
Very nice.
Now show us slice of life and rom com.

>>281778073
The idea is that no-one appreciates the MC (You) even though (You) are clearly the most accomplished employee, and (You) are in fact single-handedly responsible for all the company's successes, if only those stupid plebs would realize how important (You) are and treat (You) with the respect you deserve.

>>281778073
It's what everyone said, but there's something else. Taking a useless superpower and making it OP is a common "cool" subversion to someone who is only used to mainstream heroes and stories. The hero uses healing to be overpowered? How can that be? Isn't that useless? And it has tits too? I must read it! I know I would've been crazy about stuff like that in my early teens.

>>281779716
Made me watch it out of curiosity, may as well do live notes.
>The first few minutes are literally, "We all can agree isekai bad amirite? At a higher ratio than any other genre amirite?"
>"We all know isekaifags will slurp anything as long as the MC is a generic nerd like them" while showing yogiri of all possible fucking examples.
Not like I even remember the last time an MC was actually a nerd loser aside from mushoku, which this retard dicksucks.
>He then proceeds to whine about how "isekaifags will really watch ANY slop" because as he points out, numbers of any random LN adaptation of the month will be better than any anime original on any given year.
Because apparently the concept of an established that WILL show up in hopes the adaptation isn't dogshit is a concept too complicated for a westoid to understand.
Nevermind the fact anime originals have a really bad fame by now over delivering complete dogshit endings that retroactively ruin the whole thing, particularly from a few given studios (mostly trigger) which will make people avoid them to not get attached in the first place.
>He then complains about the one isekai that has "fight scenes that are just one guy saying one word" because it's centered around the one guy that has to be smart and bullshit his way into big enemies getting close enough to use status effects on but not too close enough to kill his ass.
>More whining of it having 4.4/5 on crunchyroll despite not only crunchy deleting 1-2 star reviews, but also after it was a surprisingly long awaited adaptation because O MY SERAS.
>He also whines about apocalypse hotel being too low rated
>He proceeds to complain about more random meme isekai like one called "ugly mug epic fighter".
>He then proceeds to so far waste nearly a full minute hyping up something "every good isekai does right" that i can somehow fucking guess is the generic "muh isekai element matters"
I have only watched 2 minutes out of 20 and this is already a fucking slog.

>>281780920
>After all that hyping up he cuts to a fucking sponsor ad like a goddamn jew.
>Continuously continues to dance around the issue saying how muh slavery problem and also a powercreep problem while honestly saying nothing (and showing yogiri clips during the powercreep example, which is fucking hysterical, that's like complaining about powercreep and invincible MCs while using one punch man's season 1 as an example).
>Somehow manages to shoehorn in some whining about power systems despite that being the first thing to get cut on adaptations because studios (rightfully) assume the average anime watcher is too stupid to understand any of those complexities.
>Finally gets around getting close to his point, and still manages to waste time.
>Actually gets around to the point, and it is indeed the "muh isekai element matters" AND I FUCKING CALLED IT.
>Even more whining about how the MC has to be completely a "hes totally me fr fr" self insert while showing examples from utter lunatics that have inhuman perseverance that make even gods shit their pants or schizoids of varying levels of genius.
>Also manages to somehow make the muh generic medieval europe while also not explicitly saying it by saying 14th century europe instead, because ignoring the examples he puts on screen while whining about this are either dark ages shitholes or low-magitech wonders more advanced than this shithole, he also manages to show two series that are not even isekai and would qualify as battle harems instead.
>Also manages to shoehorn in some complaints about tolkien as if tolkien invented elves, which is basically the only thing a lot of isekai have in common with it.
Holy fucking shit barely at the 5:50 minute mark holy shit why the shit did I get into this fucking video now I can't pull out thanks to sunk cost.

I hope space scifi/fantasy stuff comes back but i get the impression space stuff is probably a bit too boomer-coded for modern JP LN readers.

>>281781089
>More whining about nerd MC self inserts and somehow also whining about anime references, because apparently isekai are the only "genre" that does references.
>Complaining about how starting the story as an isekai is extremely easy for an author according to him because you don't have to worry about the MC being there when the story starts, which is not only goddamn nonsensical, but is also outright wrong when down the line figuring out how and why the MC got isekai'd is usually what makes or breaks the "late game" of an isekai story and eventually it's ending, so it's the ONE THING that le isekai le authors actually do plan out properly.
>Once again playing into the truck meme, when you can quite literally name a single non-parody isekai that does it (mushoku tensei), though maybe there's more by now but usually that's within the realm of parody and satire shit like eminence (which he shows during this segment).
>He also somehow complains about the story starting with the MC asking around where the fuck he is and what's going on despite complaining about the lack of worldbuilding like 2 minutes ago? The fuck?
>Also complains about the MC meeting his "isekai world travel agent" aka the goddess giving him cheetos, which is also a surprisingly rare thing outside parodyslop, though not as rare as the truck.
To think about it I'm baffled at how common truck memes are despite them never being used as the death reason on unironic isekai.
I think getting shanked in the street is more common and that's saying something (I can name at least two examples, remonster and tensura, one more than his truck meme).
Actually I think death by overwork is also more common, as I can also name two examples off the top of my head (death march and kenja life/slime RTS).
>Does the usual GENTLEMEN shit of using parodyslop (konosuba) to justify his goddess example.
Now at 6:30 and I can already feel a few braincells dying from the generic borderline AI generated arguments.

>>281780920
>He then proceeds to whine about how "isekaifags will really watch ANY slop" because as he points out, numbers of any random LN adaptation of the month will be better than any anime original on any given year.

Battlefags actually worse than isekaifags in this case lmao kek.

>>281772495 (OP)
I'm glad it's over. You wont be missed

>>281781215
>Manages to go on a rant about MUH CLASH OF PERSPECTIVES AND WORLDVIEWS FROM THE ISEKAIJIN because apparently after a decade of people whining about not wanting politics in their media (myself included) he suddenly wants to drag IRL politics into it because isekai bad.
>Also he says, and at this point I will just direct quote because it's funnier that way: "(The stuff) that comes with suddenly immersing a person in a totally foreign place, time and jurisdiction of the laws of physics."While showing motherfucking hajime "demon god" nagumo, the poster boy for giving his isekai world a middle finger so big he literally became a god after killing one just to go back to earth.
>And another quote " How does that change someone? How would the world change in response to them?" while showing still hajime clips during the first question, and changing to motherfucking cid from eminence during the second question, then "How does the new world compare to the old one?" while going back to hajime clips, which makes me think he's either fucking taking the piss or the universe hates him due to having zero self awareness, and I'm inclined to think it's the latter.
>Then goes on and on about that being le potential for le deep le storytelling, while mind you ignoring pretty sure any isekai that lasts longer than 3 volumes ends up playing with those themes.
Watching this goddamn monkey prattle on and on about made up bullshit is actually mentally excruciating and the only thing that keeps me going instead of dropping this video and moving on with my life is the passing through that some anon will look at my rant/mental breakdown and at least chuckle, making his day or night slightly less shit as a result. Holy shit only 7:38 so far.

>>281781260
>next loser magnet genre: hello there

>>281781355
>"Well it's not stuff they ignore, the new world is better because it's like a video game, unless it's a hard video game with blood and guts, in which case it's better with an asterisk" which let's ignore for a moment the majority of isekai doesn't even have status screens and game mechanics, let's instead focus on the fact a lot of isekai with status screens have the MC be a maladjusted schizoid and likely future serial killer or school shooter take the world like a fuck to fucking water, because his next point is.
>"That world changes the protagonist from an incel into a guy who's had his dick sucked by an elf, and he changes it in turn by setting a new bar for how many elves can one guy's dick." Which actually threw me for a curveball, because I don't think elves are that common as a love interest/harem orbiters, because the only ones I can think of like O MY SERAS tend to have oneitis, and the few ones that don't like black summoner only have like one elf, ignoring multiple humans I think multiple dragons is more common than multiple elves.
>More whining to backpedal and beat around the bush that boils down to "Now don't get me wrong I'm not saying escapism is le bad.... BUT..."
Weirdly enough doing so while showing clips of some stuff that isn't even isekai, but has black short hair protagonists, yeah totally no underhanded gaslighting going on at work here.
Now once again direct quote to not twist any words:
WHICH HAS TO BE ON THE NEXT FUCKING POST DUE TO POST LIMIT, FUCKING HELL I'M TOO USED TO 8'S LONGER POST LIMIT.

>>281781466
>"I devised an elegant litmus test to identify and avoid the slop. After watching one or two episodes of a new isekai all you gotta do is ask yourself, what was the hero's original world like? And how did they fit into it? If the show gave you answers, or at least enough clues to speculate, you're probably watching something something to say, at least something more than what if you lived in a bideo game."
Which is pretty fucking egregious because not only half the shit he's showing to call slop actually do that, but also by definition if his example is "Incel that turns into a chad and fucks elves" then also counts, which I have no idea the fuck is he on about if that's his litmus test, I think he just tried too hard to not just say "if it has self insert MC then it's le bad" becuse that's somehow even less quantifiable and would rightfully make him look like a retard.
>"That doesn't guarantee that what it has to say will be good or interesting. Failure frame uses a whole episode to say what if you lived in a shitty gacha game and also were a schgool shooter, but at the very least you know that the hero being from another world is going to matter to the story at least a little bit to some level"
Which not only is backpedaling by saying "that kind of different MC doesn't count btw", the explicit language of using "hero" instead of just "protagonist" or "main character" is also very telling.
>"But the sky is the limit to the shows that do clear it." In which he proceeds to dicksuck rezero for like 4 minutes, you know, the one isekai where the MC is actually an incel loser trying to get his dick sucked by a (half-)elf? Do westoids just have zero self awareness?
>Wait nevermind, by 11:18 he does in fact catch himself saying basically what I just say in the only display of self awareness I have seen in this entire shithow.
FUCKING POST LIMIT

>>281781167
Just make isekai space/mecha/sci-fi.

>>281780920
>>He then complains about the one isekai that has "fight scenes that are just one guy saying one word" because it's centered around the one guy that has to be smart and bullshit his way into big enemies getting close enough to use status effects on but not too close enough to kill his ass.
Failure Frame is overhated. It's really top 5 isekaislop, top 2 if the WN sticks the landing.
Also don't like how he never goes into the REAL issue with isekai - the same boring setting and tropes.

>>281781577
we have at least 2. i'm not sure if they put any emphasis on the ships and all the technical specs like robot anime does though so it's very surface level at best

>>281781559
>And he tries to say "nuh huh" because the rezero adaptation actually shows some blood and gore therefore it's dark and for adults so it's actually le art.
>He also tries to squeeze blood out of a stone by pretending pre-isekai subaru had any kind of personality whatsoever that isn't just being a random stereotypical incel loser otaku that got bullied at school like rudeus.
I do find some comedy in the fact westoids can only relate to bullied losers that never achieved anything in life and have no autistic pursuits that they can replicate in isekai because they are too lazy even for basic vidya grinding.
>Continues to whine about "generic kirito clones" with no personality only showing some confidence boosts as their stats go up, while showing schizoman (loner isekai) which is probably the last possible example he should use to portray this point and not look like a goddamn clown.
>Goes on and on just repeating the equivalent of "self insert bad, character arcs good, isekai bad because no character arc" which kinda doesn't work when he already said before he only cares about sufferslop.
>Then continues complaining about le bad isekai worldbuilding because everything le revolves around le self insert, while again showing stuff that isn't even isekai, which IMO distracts from the point he's trying to make.
>Effectively ends up saying "if there's no sufferslop then the world and people in it don't feel real" which is quite the statement, one of the statements of all time.
>Wastes a whole minute praising water magician's adventurer guild basic showcase of bureaucracy being involved with politics and economics, which kinda confirms what I already suspected of this nigger being an anime only, especially when even some manga adaptations show that kind of thing.
Goddamn I really can't get used to only 2000 characters again, at least I'm at 14:20 so the ending is within reach.

>>281778985
>it could be that they realized the MC doesn't need to be japanese to enjoy middle ages not-yurope
That was never a requirement, just a crutch for shitty trend chasing authors who suck at world-building.

>>281781649
>Proceeds to suck the dick of the concept of an opposite ebil empire that becomes relevant as an antagonist, despite that being such a generic overplayed card even I would call isekai pulling that shit and considering it creative to be slop.
>Wastes a whole another minute repeating himself.
>Also wastes some time whining about "silent casting battle mages" for some reason?
>He also wets his panties over this anime in particular apparently not having dogshit adapted battle scenes and actually showing some of the depth that can be had in LN stuff, good for him.
>Complains about having no information about the MC being a blank slate, instantly proceeds to contradict himself by saying the MC is a schizoid hermit that lived alone in the woods for years before even getting isekai'd.
At this point he has to be taking the piss.
>Proceeds to complain about not having any clues to the guy's hobbies after complaining about teen MCs making references to their hobbies, and also complains how he knows nothing about the guy's goals after mentioning he was living happily as a hobo hermit in the woods.
>Goes on a rant about some other fantasy anime being good because it justifies silent casting being a thing, which sadly I have not watched or read so I can't comment on it.
The fuck do westoids have against silent casting though? Do they really think casters are gonna have time to say a whole poem when people start moving at mach 1 and higher? Are they all secretly chunni niggers seething at "da weebs" for not being ashamed of it?

>>281781788
>Ironically from the little he says about that one fantasy anime being good because it's not isekai and thus "the FMC being her own character" is framed in just the perfect way for me to point out having an insecure girl literally autism up the entire concept of silent casting out of her ass because she's too socially inept to say shit out loud in public thanks to her abusive father would actually be better off as an isekai with a socially inept MC on the level of diablo that can literally only larp as a demon lord to communicate because it would actually justify the existence of a bullied NEET.
Which mind you just continues feeding my own stereotype of westoids only being able to relate to socially awkward losers with nothing in life, not even being good at vidya.
>He also goes on a suspiciously long rant about how it's cool that all the sexy guys fall for her.
>Starts to shill some westslop webtoon with some of the most convoluted pointlessly complex premise I have heard this year about aliens invading earth and the MC's group having to beat not-SAO in a reality TV show to win back the planet through livestream donations
>Feels the need of pointing out the dungeon master AI has a foot fetish.
>I feel the need to point out he pointed out the dungeon master AI in this goyslop has a foot fetish that the author felt the need to add.
>This is completely glossed over despite a literal decade of whining JP isekai is just an excuse to thinly veil the author's fetish.
>I once again feel the need to point out this eceleb nigger felt the need to point out the MC has "a beautifully supple pair of feet" in the list of things he has to survive dungeon crawling.
And I feel the need to gloss over the shilling of this literal in-canon eceleb shilling goyslop because it gets me closer to then end of this video faster.

>>281781577
this one was pretty good

>>281781886
I will however point out he explicitly mentions the past of this "isekai" (not even isekai because it's ayylmaos) MC doesn't even get presented properly until 6 books in which is fucking hysterical after literally 5 minutes of whining any given isekai anime doesn't infodump the entire MC's life story before the story even properly starts.
>Once again like 3 minutes of dicksucking "relatable" sufferslop while whining about "nerds self inserting" which at this point just sounds like projecting when he literally just described the MC as a loser putting up a facade with a nerdy personality.
>Finally gets to a different point and starts complaining about how JP isekai MCs never have going back "home" as a priority anymore, and let's ignore for a moment the logistics of dying, going to a different body, then somehow thinking going back to this goddamn hellhole is a good idea, and just focus on how he spent 5 minutes shilling that westoid alien story on how it REALLY gets into the depth on how the world is shit and uses trauma to make us fall in line and attack each other instead of the ones with the boots.
>Somehow pretend isekai was always about going back home and using generic leddit examples like memeflowne rayearth etc.
>Also mentions the wizard of oz (when the MC there takes her family to oz to literally escape WW2), alice in wonderland (also stays in isekai). and somehow forgot to mention narnia (the kids fucking die in a train crash and permanently stay in narnia).
>Somehow pulls a fast one on me and mentions basically what I said about reincarnated MCs that dies that make the best of their own situation but instantly tries to pretend it's the exception that proves the rule when it's very much fucking not.

>>281782010
As a side note I find it funny he once again goes on a multiple minute rant about how it's all mindless escapism while showing examples of MCs that are goddamn savants that very much explicitly only succeed due to either being geniuses, lunatics that take fighting like a fish does to water, actual fucking school shooter material, or all of the above at varying degrees, and without that a normal person would just eat shit and die as a best case scenario, and actually get tortured in increasingly gruesome ways in a worst case scenario.

And he somehow manages to pretend all love interests are elves as a last non-joke at the end of the video.
Glad this fucking shit is over, my life is worse for having watched this bullshit.
The final episode of any given Trigger anime original has more artistic value than this 26 minute video and that's saying something.

>>281782050
it just sounds like the average GENTLEMEN shit which makes me wonder why the fuck dud you even bother

>>281782205
>>281782050
YSK: longform anime content on youtube isn't meant to be taken seriously. it's usually an incoherent rant full of inconsistencies and contradictions which drive engagement and this fuels the CRM for the channel

>>281776627
That's just a loophole. If they go into the gacha world they are by all accounts isekai'd.

>>281772495 (OP)
Escaflowne is the first, last, and only isekai ever worth watching. Anyone saying otherwise is wrong, retarded and gay.
I'm violently happy that the genre is finally dead, I spit on and dance on its grave. It can only get better if everyone ever writing, financing, directing, releasing, broadcasting and buying All The Fucking Garbage With Retarded Long Titles Like Who The Fuck Cares gets violent explosive diarrhoea and shits themselves to death in painful agony.

>>281783061
Forgot my picture because fuck you

>>281782050
It legit feels like he took all his arguments from random 4chan shitposts while not fact checking anything.
Pretty fucking pathetic honestly.

>>281783061
You mean Dunbine

>>281772495 (OP)
Looks like it's starting to decrease in 2025.

>>281772495 (OP)
Where is this chart from?

>>281784209
There's at least 9 isekai next season which would make it match 2024.

>>281772495 (OP)
>2015 it was the last safe year
Damn

Sometimes I wonder why I even still browse this shithole instead of staying on 8.

>>281775932
take your meds

>>281784649
probably because it's fucking dead
i have been posting there keeping the isekai general alive but it's basically a ghost town

>>281784649
>>281784680
What the fuck are you niggers on about?

>>281784649
>wanting an /a/ with IDs
Go fuck yourself, faggot

>>281776090
It just simply Fantasy without the isekai part.
The ""Villainess"" also starting to pick up as well

>>281784791
Feeling nice today so I will spoonfeed you at the cost of a 3 day.
.se is the backup domain if you are somewhere .moe is blocked or down for some reason.
>>281784819
It stops the rampant samefagging in this shithole lmao.
Literally only pajeets shitting up threads fear still-anonymous poster IDs.

>>281784819
90% of the problems with this site would be fixed by implementing anonymous poster IDs
we both know nigger ape will never do that tho, there's a reason they removed the IP counter in the first place

>>281784906
>>281784954
Enjoy your pseudonymous forum experience and constant '1pbtid' ass-hattery. That measure only creates more problems than it solves.

>>281785051
i have been browsing 8 for months now and i only ever see people mocking (1)s when someone starts acting like a nigger lol
very much like you are doing right now

>>281784954
>there's a reason they removed the IP counter in the first place
Everyone can fake posting with more than one ID nowadays, it only benefits the one who violates the rules.

>>281785517
You're pretending like it wouldn't be extremely easy to spot shitposters on low activity boards.

>>281772495 (OP)
It's called market saturation, people get tired of seeing the same shit with slightly different flavors.

>>281783061
Escaflowne also goes retarded at some point too

>>281786167
That's just a love triangle, kid. Bog standard in shoujo media.

>>281783061
bro forgot about aura battler dunbine

>>281772495 (OP)
>remove the isekai
>most of the conventions and cliches remain like in several WN>LN stories
Is isekai really the main issue?

>>281772837
>Genre's faded
where on the chart does it show that? reminder, 2025 isn't over yet

>>281786204
I wouldn't mind it if this situation wasn't made by a literal fate changing device

op is baiting but it is true that isekais are basically over at the source.
>>281772837
critical mass of women writing shitty otonari tenshi fakes and an influx of cuckold moid and drama-loving foid writers that burned too many readers. all the implicit trust by anyone but women and for anything but their villainess or historical trash is long gone. average isekai general mouthbreather memes childhood ntr like buck broken timmy(deadname) spams bbc.
>>281776113
make an animation out of it and we'll see how well the world takes it

>>281782445
you're saying the video creator doesn't actually believe in the points he makes?
you mean people as a rule make video essays to tell the untruth all because it'd drive clicks?

>>281772495 (OP)
Add native Isekai to that graph and it is still a growing trend

>>281772495 (OP)
Good riddance. Isekai is the worst plague that has happened to the industry. Ever.

>>281772880
only one acktually, fall. The next winter season counts for 2026.

>>281778604
Native isekai has been around since the original Fate Stay Night

>>281772495 (OP)
I wish but it’ll still take a while, plus all the fantasy anime that feel like an isekai anyway still get some releases.

>>281780920
>Nevermind the fact anime originals have a really bad fame by now over delivering complete dogshit endings that retroactively ruin the whole thing
Poor Wonder Egg Priority

>>281777853
it's a passive revenge fantasy i feel
>undervalued worker gets fired, and then the people that fired him get their comeuppance because they didn't value his work properly. and now he's got a better work environment with people who value him properly and also a harem of sexy girls, and he's also actually the strongest.
escape fantasy for the nearing middle age wage slave.

>>281777853
It's basically wageslavely wish fulfillment.
You wouldn't get it if you're not working.

>>281788673
Yeah and rom com is an escape fantasy for the incel

>>281788758
I work a decent job. Six figures in total compensation in USD anyway on the non new york east coast. I guess I can sort of understand the mentality since I guess Japs have a much more mental grind to their workplace I guess.

As long as I am alive isekai will have its most loyal fan

>>281777853
Men love the victim mentality and then gaining everything without working for it

>>281789618
No Isekai fan is truly alive, they are more of a plant

Trashing isekai is fun but I ain't gonna read that wall of text above.

>>281776797
Goblin Slayer has Hero and her party hopping from dimension to dimension, so it has a multiverse (but not from the point of view of GS).
>Haruhi became an isekaijin herself
just think about it...

>>281790838
Yes but its fine if a woman does it.
If goblin slayer or a male hero did that then it would be a problem.

>>281778145
Arifureta and Hazurewaku (banished into the dungeon by a classmate and a goddess, respectively, where they must survive, alone) also started as such.
>that kid who can mine dragons
golems, and the name is Kurt, the unaware atelier meister. And to be honest, he is utterly shit in combat (but godly in anything else).

>>281790106
Yet you absolutely require isekai as a stepping stone because of your insecurity about the fiction you yourself consume. You need to create a strawman of "fiction tiers" that don't address quality but rather "how much you escape from reality". Of course none of the points brought up ever actually address how "escapist fiction" supposedly are a "worse escape from reality" than whatever fiction shit you are consuming and you can't measure it on immersion levels either since immersion is treated as a positive trait, but if you just keep insisting on what you label as escapist to be escapist because... "it just is!" and pretend you are a master psycho-analyst who can perfectly identify the exact traits of author and audience of the supposed "escapist fiction" without even reading/watching any of it yourself (because you are apparently just THAT good at arm-chair psycho-analysis!) then you can feel good about consuming your own preferred fiction because "at least it's not like those escapist fiction! My fiction is superior! It's sophisticated art used for enlightened recreational activity!"
Or at least that's your cope.

>>281791434
Not reading an Isekai fan's opinions

>>281775932
Isekai is almost always slop and just plain sucks.

>>281791488
Heh, acting like a dumb, lazy and unthinking plant now after accusing others of it.

Isekai is just going to give way to "fantasy with game mechanics"
It will never be truly over

>>281776797
>pii chan also pulled multiverse shit later on
Pii chan is multiverse from start.

>>281791663
It'll be over when narou goes down.

>>281791539
It is not out of laziness, it is just not worth reading. You might show some signs of life such as breathing or shitposting on 4chan but we both know that if we took a brain scan of you right now, it would show no activity. It is all just your brain stem at work. You are no more alive than a plant or a person in a coma.

>>281772495 (OP)
Juuni Kokuki is good. Start is a bit rough but after that it's great

>>281776797
Bofuri is also an MMO.

>>281777176
Isekai is just the fucking setting. Just the background for the MC (rarely useful later on the story)

>>281791724
I'm surprised some corporation hasn't turned a wattpad style site into a new-IP-for-teens farm. Like that's how Roblox works, it turns retarded children into pay to win farmers of other children.

>RIZZLED
what does it mean?

>>281776113
>most popular shounen right now is an incredibly overt anti immigration
Name?
Not up to date with shounen, but this made me curious...

>>281791819
Because kids/people these days don't read and we have youtube instead for them to waste time

>>281791725
You care about the ad-hominem shitflinging and address that, while avoiding actually having to address any of the actual substance. Need I say more?

>>281791899
Drama Queen

>>281792039
Thanks!

>>281792012
It is not an ad hominem attack because my argument is not against a person but rather than an isekai enjoyer.

>>281792244
Right. I am sorry for overestimating you. It's not even an ad-hominem, it's "group up and dismiss". Truly, I am sorry for giving you too much credit.

>>281791725
kek based

Anime orignals ARE making a huge comeback as more being produced and made.

The flow is basically novel in the web>novel in book form>manga adaptation>anime adaptation
Only the best of the best get anime adaptation so why does it seem like it's all generic slop?

>>281784906
will check it out at least anon
your sacrifice is appreciated

>>281793202
>Only the best of the best get anime adaptation
lmfao no, basically anything gets adaptations because it's easy cheap ads for the source material
to this day absolute kino like infinite dendrogram will never get the adaptations it deserves for example, because it's first season served it's purpose
>so why does it seem like it's all generic slop?
because said adaptations are generic and dumbed down at best, actively have people working on it that give zero shits
just for a quick example, evil lord was some of the best stuff to come out of this recent isekai generation (post 2022) yet the anime is generic trash at best

>>281772495 (OP)
Isekai is the best genre.

>>281772495 (OP)
There are like 5 villainess series next season.

Is it impossible to make a decent isekai without haremslop, wish-fulfillment, power fantasy and misery porn?

>>281772495 (OP)
Isekai is over. Its time for us regressor Chads to rise up!

>>281776627
I will never forgive the Japanese for this

>>281797089
People want harem, wish-fulfillment, power fantasy, and a sprinkle of misery porn to add some spice and drama.
Since you can't have this in our boring mundane world (you can only have lots of misery, more than anybody wants, but none of the rest), then getting those all in another world is all that remains.

>>281797089
when the same retards that whine about this also praise shit like mushoku tensei it's obvious all this is just buzzwords to whine about what you don't like and only praise stuff you can self insert to like MT and rezero due to the MC being a bullied loser that is not even good at vidya