Thread 281810642

Just a reminder, Yuri is a good fetish for straight men girls kissing with their nipples touching will never not be hot.

>>281810642 (OP) (You)
I self-insert as one of the women and imagine I was born a girl daily by the way

>>281810642 (OP)
Girls kissing is only hot when romantically straight girls do it.

Homosexuality is an abomination in whatever form it takes.

>>281810678
out tourist.

>>281810642 (OP)
this

>>281810642 (OP)
Yuri is hot but yurifags are mentally ill trannies.

>>281810698
Yeah I'm pretty left leaning, but the troons are absolutely an albatross on all of our causes lol. I've never seen a case where adding troons to a cause made it better.

>>281810698
antiyuri fags are the mentally ill ones

Yuri is conceptually great but almost every instance of it has been dog shit.

i love yuri and yuri-adjacent anime

>>281810738
I just wish we could have had Rei and Asuka Kissing, licking each others assholes with their nipples touching, and cumming. I'd fap to that every day

>>281810757
ask in the AI thread

>>281810802
ewww that's disgusting. I want Sadamoto to draw it. Seriously, can that MFer draw one Evangelion doujin with Rei and Asuka in to before death?

>>281810757
Don't reply to my post ever again you troglodyte.

>>281810813
embrace the machine or open your wallet. incentives matter.

>>281810642 (OP)
No, it’s boring. You’re a cuck.

>>281810678
Also this.

>>281810713
>I'm pretty left leaning
Then you’re no better than the trannies.

>>281810715
Lol

>>281810742
>yuri-adjacent anime
Not a thing, just yuritards being mentally ill.

>>281810698
No idea where that came from, but it's a pretty dumb, especially considering how trannies are rejected in yuri, even if some places try to be "politically correct", a real yurifag doesn't want trannies in their yuri.

>>281810866
trannies were the worst thing to happen to the alphabet people.

>>281810865
someone people call it yuri baiting but its very real.

>>281810698
>Yuri is hot
you're now a yurifag yourself by your incredible loose definition of what yurifags are

Enjoying girl kissing or even being together doesn't make you a yurifag. Push a conversation far enough with an a yurifag and you will almost always find that they see heterosexual relationships and male fantasies as things that are inherently inferior and to be be either put down or outright discarded. It's a zero sum game for them.

Girls don't hold back on each other.

>>281811142
Yuri is male fantasy though. Irl girls are neither pure nor fun which is the way yuri usually portrays them. Expections prove the rule by the way.

>>281810642 (OP)
>for straight men
also known as transbians

>>281811306
You know what I mean by male fantasy. For most guys, girls getting it on is a fetish at best. Yurifaggotry is the complete tunnel visioning of female x female superiority over anything involving men and women.

>>281811352
I enjoy yuri without believing in that crap though?

>>281810742
Glorious brown flatness.

>>281811003
No, it’s not. Yuri baiting isn’t real either. It’s just yuritards deluding themselves into thinking anyone cares about them and popular stuff panders to them.
Writers aren’t responsible for your gay tumblr headcanon.

>>281810642 (OP)
Lesbians and traps are the bait in the homosexuality bait and switch, because they don't immediately trigger a disgust response in straight men by looking like hot females with a bonus (you get 2 of them with lesbians, or you don't have to put up with a w*man with traps).
In reality lesbians are undesirable butch misandrists and traps always look like the homosexual men they are, and in the mean time you opened the door for all sorts of disgusting freaks to come out of the closet.

>>281811363
this, i just like seeing girls make love
idk what that guy is on about. he's rattled by tranny shit.

>>281811363
>>281811415
Go to any yuri thread to say the girls love men and see the reactions. He’s absolutely right.

>>281811363
You are the minority. Almost every yurifag I have interacted with would gut a series of its male characters/protagonist because they think it gets in the way of yuri lol

>>281810672
This

>>281810981
You mean second worst after them being born?

>>281811441
why would i say girls love men in a yuri thread. that's pretty stupid.

>>281810642 (OP)
Stupid ass doomed yuri anime. It shouldnt have ended the way it did

>>281810642 (OP)
I like yuri, but bringing it up here or trying to discuss it in earnest is either a chore, or completely futile.
Even outside of outright derailment by schizos on both sides (I use the plural here, but with schizos, you can never tell; also, whether or not they're playing both sides), >>281811442 isn't even wrong, though I'm not sure if these guys are the majority, or just a vocal minority.
Either way, if you profess to like yuri, you're automatically lumped in with all the loons.
A sad state of affairs.

>>281811706
It's all just proof anime is too mainstream today. The fanbase is more toxic than ever. I'm not saying we didn't have our share of fucking idiots in the 2000s. I was one of them. But today's fanbase is something else. Streaming really brought the retards in.

>>281811547
See? You're exactly like them. Yuri is just a way for you to shill male rejection shit.

>>281811441
That's retarded and it will give hostile reactions because you want to break the ships. It's the same as if you go tell Zombieland Saga fans that Sakura is a lesbian and she loves other women.

>>281811415
This is what happens when culture warrior losers discover anime. Large large percentiles of anime fans who think other people are tourists, but think yuri needs to be removed from anime. IE changing anime because they are offended. Can we please have a normal thread?

>>281811841
>it will give hostile reactions because you want to break the ships
Yuri crack pairings don't get any negative response on yuri threads outside of that one guy though. So clearly that's not the reason. They hate men specifically.

>>281811852
>but think yuri needs to be removed from anime
That's not what I said though? Girls having romance and being couples are fine. Yurifag """culture""" is cancer.

>>281811915
Distinctions are useless when both side treat everyone the same way.

>>281811746
you honestly sound as nuts as the trannies. this is classic mindbroken shizoposting. calm down. yuri threads are for girl love, dipshit.

>>281812271
Much more off topic shit gets posted in them without negative response. You are coping because you don't want to admit yuri subcultures on this board are just a way for feminists and man haters from tumblr to gain a 4chan audience (/u/ was never 4chan to begin with).

>>281812305
It seems you ignore that many feminists and man haters also hate most yuri works, such as Sakura Trick, Citrus and probably Watanare because
>it fetishizes lesbians
And they just don't care about things they can't hate as Adashima. There are very few things that are highly regarded among those groups, like the Villainess one or Bloom into you, and pretty much that's it, other than that, they just do ships from non-yuri works. So even if there are that kind of people among yurifags, they're not the majority, and they're not even yurifags since they care more about non-yuri than about actual yuri.

>>281812970
Can you guys stop shitting up my topic and just post girls kissing? I explicity made this topic to point out its a male fetish and you still have this arguing.

>>281812970
>>it fetishizes lesbians
The retards who say shit like this only hate male yurifags not yuri itself.

>>281811363
But you do know it’s gay to enjoy it right? It’s no different than being a fujo

>>281813045
>The retards who say shit like this only hate male yurifags not yuri itself
Yeah they don't hate yuri, just everything that it produces. Except when it's not yuri so they can pretend they like lesbian romance without having to watch it.

>>281813039
Sorry, we can do both though

>>281810642 (OP)
I'm totally convinced that dudes who like yuri hate themselves and can't picture themselves with a woman or feel insecure for the presence of other male characters, heck it wouldn't surprise if they were secretly gay or like the thought of being cheated on. I hope keeps yuri flopping so that yurifags can't enjoy anything.

>>281813572
Son. I've consumed more anime and manga than your tourist ass that only got in post fansub era.

>>281810642 (OP)
A straight man could easily admit he wants to fuck those girls without excuses or deflections.

>>281811547
Are there no yuri works with girls sending men to rape other lesbians as revenge? There's hardly anything worse for a woman and especially for a lesbian woman.

>>281811888
That's because nobody takes women seriously. They are not threatening in a sexual manner unlike men. I wouldn't mind my wife cheating or being raped by another woman, but another men doing it would shatter something precious in our relationship.

This is not hentai. It's ecchi and allowed. Got that!?

>>281813630
what does this has to do with my post?. Also started watching animu in 1996.

>>281813572
>>281813630
kek, just look at:
>>281813884
>I wouldn't mind my wife cheating or being raped by another woman
You're a cuck

>>281813884
>I wouldn't mind my wife cheating or being raped by another woman
Holy fucking cuck. Yuritards are embarrassing.

>>281813914
>>281813947
How low is your testosterone to view women as your equal even on a sexual level

>>281810642 (OP)
Finding yuri hot is normal. Finding only yuri hot is not.

>>281814046
Lame ass argument cuck.

>>281814046
>high T people are those that don’t mind getting cucked actually
I have no idea what kind of retarded tiktok "brainrot" rabbit hole you fell down as a kid but you’re a living argument for the internet being 18+

>>281810642 (OP)
Why can't you autistic subhuman trannies stay in your containment board for once?

>>281814119
>>281814130
A woman cannot cuck a man with another woman.

>>281814871
True because if you let her do this you don’t deserve to call yourself a man

>>281810672
>>281814070
Yeah it’s not like anyone has a problem with girl-on-girl per se. It’s when they make a big deal about muh straightest fetish and then immediately cross signals with muh sacred lily garden, so the most comfortable they are with FFM is actually just watching from the cuck chair. They offer you the options “cuck” or “faggot” and it blows their mind that this dichotomy irritates everyone and it causes them so much cognitive agony that they schiz out about how they’re being ganged up on by newfag tourists/samefagged by one guy.

>>281814046
>women as your equal even on a sexual level
It’s actually a pretty common yurifag position that women are unbeatable when it comes to sexual performance.

You’re literally using the terms “cheating on me”. I don’t know why cucks are so afraid of the word cuck, you want to be cucked by lesbians, big deal. Maybe you want that but you don’t want to associate yuri with it, you want to have your cake and eat it.

>>281810642 (OP)
I thought it was boku no pico from the thumbnail. Not as a joke.

>>281814871
>there are people out there who actually believe this.
lmao. do yourself a favor and google cuck.

>>281815081
When I first started fapping the first pornstar I fell in love with was Marry Queen, and she had done some dyke shit so I tried watching it. Even at the time long before I knew about this yuri subculture bullshit, before the whole male hate thing etc, I just couldn’t get into it, it was too boring. Literally nothing happens. And there’s no man to self insert into, so why am I stroking my dick? You fap to stimulate something happening to your dick, if nothing is shown on screen, then what are you stimulating?
Of course I didn’t outright hate it like I do now after having been exposed to yuritard behavior, but it was just extremely bland and boring. I didn’t understand who it was for.

>>281810642 (OP)
Why was this minor villain so based?

>>281815267
Sane men can fap to a naked woman, if you need more than that it's a sign that your brain is damaged.

>>281815697
The only way i can do that is if i imagine myself fucking her which kind of makes using a picture instead of just imagination useless. No penetration stuff is good to get you in the mood but to actually cum there needs to be some action otherwise it's just boring

>>281815267
The vast, vast majority of professional American porn is one of the most disgusting things on this world. The women look like whores, the camera work is amateurish, the actors suck, there's no sensuality. It's the equivalent of greasy gas station food.

Anyway regarding lesbian porn. I find humiliation and taboo-ish tags, such as age difference, very enticing. Two normal girls are usually not that interesting. A large amount of lesbian porn seems to have actual orgasms too. Usually the more slow paced, sensual or romantic ones. The best part is that it properly shows off the beautiful bodies of women, instead of focusing on their cunt getting jackhammered.

>>281815934
>The best part is that it properly shows off the beautiful bodies of women, instead of focusing on their cunt getting jackhammered
Both aren't mutually exclusive and good porn is porn that has both.

>>281815267
>And there’s no man, so why am I stroking my dick? You fap to stimulate something happening to your dick, if there are no men shown on screen, then what are you stimulating?
>>>/cm/ is two boards down for you

>>281816051
>If you're not a cuck you're a faggot

>>281816074
You're both though.

>>281816216
>no u

>>281816265
He has a point. Do you have an actual argument to counter his?

>>281816302
What's his argument?

>>281816349
You admit to not being stimulated by women doing lewd things, and can only get your dick wet when there are men on screen. If that's not the sign of a closeted homo, what is?

And self-inserting as a man fucking a woman is cuckold behavior. You aren't the one fucking the hot girl you like, you're watching another man fuck the hot girl you like, and you're getting horny over it. That's peak cuckoldry.

So ultimately, you're both gay and a cuck.

>>281816474
You manage to struggle with concepts any normalfag getting into porn understands instinctively, congratulations.
A dick will always been involved since i'm jerking off, i just need to see what happens to it.
By definition a cuck doesn't self insert. A cuck wants himself to be excluded from the action.
"Closet homos" aren't real btw, it's a lie made up by faggots to gaslight people into thinking their situation is more widespread, like how the people calling you a pedo for liking lolis are all real pedos.

>>281816572
>A dick will always been involved since i'm jerking off
So you admit to jerking off to other men's dicks. The women are inconsequential to whether you're horny or not, since dicks on screen are the determining factor. That's pretty gay.

>>281816651
Again, you struggle with concepts actual teenagers understand without even needing to think about them. You're completely retarded.

>>281815697
Intercourse is the superordinate stimulus. You like naked women because you want to have intercourse with them. Not the other way around. Everything that isn’t intercourse that produces an intercourse stimulus, while still straight, is just varying degrees of brain damage, from every psych angle possible.

>>281816474
>can only get your dick wet when there are men on screen
The visual stimulus ultimately doesn’t matter as much as you want it to. There are men who can trigger the heterosexual intercourse stimulus with fucking floor tile patterns so the fact you can do it without having to see intercourse doesn’t impress anyone and this elaborate cope of dick presence is moot. What really actually matters is what kind of fantasy it is enabling internally. Obviously if you are watching intercourse and then thinking about packing man butt, you are gay, but that idea is retarded and nonsensical and it’s proven by the fact that actual gay men do not watch straight porn. Fucking duh.

On the other hand, the irony is that you’d think intercourse/sole female focus/girl on girl straight men could all get behind the same idea: that they want to fuck the girl, but only yurifags get cagey at the end there, because they’re not just watching two bitches get it on and wanting to FFM them, they actually genuinely want to sit in the cuck chair and just watch. And then they force this on everyone else with their gay/cuck dichotomy.

>>281816710
You aren't addressing the argument, homoanon

>>281816837
You making shit up and proving how retarded you are with insane troll logic will never be an argument

>>281816798
>What really actually matters is what kind of fantasy it is enabling internally.
When your fantasy relies on another man's dick, it's gay. There's no way around this. The tile fucker is more straight than you.

>>281816856
>no argument
>digressing

>>281816880
>fantasy relies on another man's dick
Nice strawman. Go ahead and tell me what it means to “self insert” into your own daydream. I find it interesting that a fantasy occurring inside your own imagination inside your own fucking brain can only ever involve a penis other than your own. It’s almost as if you have some negative dysphoric reaction to the mental idea of your own cock. I think there’s a word for that.

>>281816962
Your "argument" is literally "i made up the fact that you jerk off to other people's dicks therefore you are gay"
By your logic, i can make up the fact that you like taking dick up the ass, which makes you much more gay.

>>281816977
>Nice strawman
You don't even know how to use "strawman" correctly.
>no argument
>digressing
>can only think of the t word as an insult
We know who you are.

>>281817097
>Your "argument" is literally [strawman]
come back when you finally address the argument at hand

>>281816798
>You like naked women because you want to have intercourse with them. Not the other way around.
Intercourse is the response, the woman is the stimulus. You don't need to watch women being fucked to want to fuck them, and a woman is not attractive because she's being fucked, but because she's attractive. Actually is more common for women to get aroused by the situation rather than by the person, unlike men who mostly don't care about the situation but the person, and that's why actresses are more important than writers for porn.

>>281817156
Unfortunately for you strawman and paraphrasing are two different concepts

>>281817199
>Intercourse is the response, the woman is the stimulus
What? That doesn’t even make sense. Stimulus IS a response. If you didn’t want to reproduce (intercourse) you wouldn’t get any stimulus from women because there would be no advantage in it.

You want to reproduce -> you reproduce via intercourse -> you can only have intercourse with women -> women are attractive sexually -> bonus points if they are naked/wet/playing (preparing/ready for sex)

You can fetishize down the chain but it never made any sense without the intercourse. Obviously the thing that produces the strongest idea of intercourse is intercourse.
>>281817123
You don’t know how to argue correctly. I just completely dismantled your “needing cock” narrative and you no longer have any argument that doesn’t involve you being unable to identify with your own dick. You lose.

>

>>281817456
Nobody does this except yurifags (replace the buff guy with a woman)

>>281817199
>Intercourse is the response, the woman is the stimulus. You don't need to watch women being fucked to want to fuck them, and a woman is not attractive because she's being fucked, but because she's attractive.
Completely correct, but the closeted homo doesn't want to admit it.

>>281817456
>"I'm self inserting"
>"Not you"
Do you understand what self inserting means? Where the fuck do these newfags come from?

>>281817514
Unfortunately I just completely obliterated that argument with an irrefvtable logic nvke, so uhhh, shine my shoes cuck?

>needs dicks to get off
>rambles about his "yurifag" strawman
>desperately wants people to believe is isn't a delusional cuckold
Yeah, we know who this is.

Yuritards are the /a/ equivalent of niggers picking the female character in games
Change my mind

>>281817567
It's any person from 15 years ago?

>>281817567
>>needs dicks to get off
Call me Israel because I dropped so many logic bombs on this narrative that you accidentally admitted to having gender dystopia. OUCH!

mmmmm solar beam

>>281810642 (OP)
OP's pic was highly popular among women in the 00s

>>281817615
You literally look at men to get off and no amount of semantics changes that objective fact.

>>281817874
Nice paperglassman. They’re actually looking at intercourse. Retard much?

The mental gymnastics that yurifags come up are amazing.

>>281817614
>>281817662
It's actually hilarious how mentally ill you are, and how you are so genuinely bad at seeing "posting style".

And no, replying to you does not prove your baseless assumptions about posts being your boogieman are correct. Your posts are public and everyone can see them.

>>281817965
>>281817584
Any and all "anti yuri" posts?
A single person.

>>281817995
>>281818025

>>281811841
When I post JunAi in a yuri thread I keep getting told by one schizo that Zombie Land is actually a fucking harem or something despite it being fucking obvious that Kotaro is only in love with Sakura.

>>281810715
Triggered

>>281817943
>Yeah I’m touching my dick while a guy is onscreen but it’s urm ackshually a depiction of intercourse so it’s fine

>>281818421
It’s funny that you’ll only describe it in that manner as opposed to just saying “intercourse” which is the more accurate and better faith description.

Also that dick you’re touching when you’re jerking off to yuri belongs to a male body that you self admittedly don’t identify with so you’re way more gay than me bro. Too poor faith for you?

>>281811746
Uh.. no. He was pretty reasonable, actually. You're just making it obvious that all you want to do is shit up yuri threads and then get mad at retaliation.

>>281818520
>Also that dick you’re touching when you’re jerking off to yuri belongs to a male body
Yeah, MY male body, MY dick, which unless I draw own porn myself which accurately depicts that, isn’t what’s being shown in heterosexual porn. You are jerking off to heterosexual intercourse that depicts a male other than yourself engaging with it, I.E. another male. This is true of 90% of het porn. The objective reality that can be observed when jerking off to normal intercourse is that you are jerking off to both a man and a woman engaging in intercourse. There is no difference in the amount of what could be called cuckoldry between yuri and het because you are not the person objectively engaging in either of those acts in reality. The only difference is that in one you aren’t looking at some dude.

>>281818543
How is saying the girls love men shitting up their threads if they don’t hate men?

>>281818760
Because there literally no reason to post that in a yuri thread unless your intentionally being a shitstirrer, in which case you lose any right to act like a victim. Stop acting like you were born yesterday.

>>281818760
>the girls love men
Because it's not accurate for most yuri series. The girls in the series never say "I love men", so why are you saying it in the threads when it was never brought up in the show itself?

>>281818755
>Yeah, MY male body, MY dick
And when I ask you about your imagination it’s suddenly not your dick anymore.
You’re raising all this shit about drawing accurate depictions of yourself - it’s psycho nonsense. Stop freaking the fuck out about the “identities” of characters. Like I said, the visual stimulus builds an internal fantasy, and the strongest visual ideation of intercourse is obviously a depiction of intercourse. Daydreaming about having sex is obviously not gay. The difference is that everyone else is daydreaming about fucking a girl, you’re daydreaming about them fucking each other. Why?
I already said all of this shit here in this post which you mostly ignored >>281816798
You cannot defeat the argument about gay men not appealing to straight porn.

>>281811394
>popular stuff panders to them.
Not only are several yuri series are popular, but several popular series have one-sided lesbian crushes.

>>281816572
>a cuck doesn't self insert
Someone into NTR is self-inserting as the man getting NTR, which is why most NTR games are from the perspective of the person getting cheated on. If they weren't self-inserting, why have the POV character to begin with and instead have three on-screen characters?

>>281818846
>being a shitstirrer
By saying the girls love something the posters hate?

>>281819027
Other inaccurate things don’t start melties

>>281819114
>several yuri series are popular
like what
>several popular series have one-sided lesbian crushes
like what

>>281819209
Who gives a fuck about what the poster hates when its not brought up or relevant to the thread? Why do you keep bringing this point up in multiple threads like its some kind of "gotcha".

>>281816798
>the fact that actual gay men do not watch straight porn
>>281819094
>You cannot defeat the argument about gay men not appealing to straight porn.

>>281819277
>Who gives a fuck about what the poster hates
The people who stay on topic. My point is that yuritroons hate men.

>>281819336
Not relevant to a yuri thread

>>281819209
>several yuri series are popular
MahoAko was the best selling anime of its season in 2024 and the second best selling anime of 2024. The most recent yuri Gundam was popular. A yuri manga won Kadokawa's big poll by 50k votes in 2023 (https://tsugimanga.jp/winner/2023/web)

>several popular series have one-sided lesbian crushes
Bocchi the Rock and K-On had yuri characters. Mahou Shoujo from the 90's like CCS had Tomoyo and SM had Uranus/Neptune as a lesbian couple.

>>281819209
What inaccurate things get said in yuri threads?

>by saying the girls love something the posters hate?
Plently of girls in yuri manga are straight and saying they love men doesn't cause any issues. This is one of the most popular yuri series right now (both on /a/ and in Japan).

>>281819354
Relevant to yuritards being mentally ill which is my point.

>>281819397
Ya, Not relevant to yuri threads

>>281819289
You can have this AI garbage in response to your low effort “study says” retardation, “watches” and “appeals to” are also different things.

>>281819355
The only actually popular thing you listed was sailor moon and most people don’t even know about the gay shit that’s only mentioned in niche side content.

>>281819094
>You cannot defeat the argument about gay men not appealing to straight porn.
It actually helps my point since fags don’t want to see women and thus het porn generally doesn’t appeal to them, since even if they want to fuck the dude in het porn the woman I.E. visual stimulus gets in the way. Imagination is a near non-factor in this because the objective reality (a point which you completely ignored btw) is that you are still touching your dick while a dude is onscreen and this applies no matter what you’re “imagining”. You could still just jerk off to women masturbating or male PoV stuff and get adequate stimulus, but if you’re going to attack yuri for somehow being related to cuckolding then that same logic applies to non-PoV het shit no matter what shit is going on in your brain.

>>281819422
Which in itself isn’t relevant to your tranny mental illness.

>>281819484
>low effort “study says” retardation
As opposed to "anon says"?
>“watches” and “appeals to” are also different things.
Maybe, but they have to get something out of watching it, otherwise doing that would be retarded.

>>281819527
Ok homo, go jerk off to more penises.

>schizo bait thread to seethe about yurifags
Schizophrenic troons should join the 41%, ty YWNBAM

>>281819389
>What inaccurate things get said in yuri threads?
Random things.
>"designated straight girls" deflection
Doesn’t even work because those also cause melties sometimes. Hell, even saying a purely straight girl from a non yuri series loves men can cause melties with these retards.

>>281810642 (OP)
true

>>281819503
>the only actually popular
BTR was the best selling anime of 2022 and LR was the second. K-On is the best selling CGDCT of all-time and popularized the entire genre. Just because you don't know it doesn't mean others don't

>most people don’t even know about the gay shit
>side content
The show was famously censored in the west where it changed the lesbians as cousins in the dub. Why should I take someone who gets basic facts wrong seriously?

>>281813572
then you're convinced of something wrong and you should fix that

>>281819538
You’re the only one doing that though. You love futa shit (giving a dick to something that’s attractive to you).

>>281819602
>You love futa shit
Holy fucking schizo retard

>>281819580
Nobody cares about new anime
K-ON is straight and you’re a schizo
And I can assure you your shit isn’t what anyone remembers about sailor moon lol

>>281819571
And yet those are the most popular manga. How are they popular if it always causes meltdowns? This is from that yuri manga that won by 50,000 votes.

>random things.
So no concrete examples? How vague. Lots of corrections to incorrect posts get made.

>>281819619
You do though.
You also don’t actually watch yuri, you headcanon yuri and futa shit on straight anime. You have an entire general that’s all about doing that.

>>281819667
Keep rambling retard

>>281813572
No, just anyone who is tired of romcoms with loser 'nice guy' men who add nothing to the story. I will watch the shit out of anything with an assertive and proactive male lead where him getting the girl makes sense, but I reject the delusional fantasy of an otaku whose only redeeming trait is being polite. Sadly, the latter is much more popular nowadays, while the former is rare.

>>281819664
>And yet those are the most popular manga
Because non-yurifags read them as well

>>281819683
They’re still all straight and love men btw.

>>281819639
>Nobody cares about new anime
>this far of a goalpost move
>he's taking his own opinion to represent the majority again

>K-ON is straight
And yet Mugi wasn't. Even more so, Azunyan even makes a comment that Yui trying to kiss her all the time isn't straight behaviour either.

>>281819713
What ever you say majimaposter

>>281819672
>K-ON having a character mention yuri existing is somehow yuri pandering
This is why you should be outright memory holed.

>>281819672
Based Teacherfucker Mugi

>>281819733
Nope. Try again, gachatroon

>>281819713
>mention yuri existing
She loves yuri and reads it, being described as "that way".

>>281819667
>You have an entire general that’s all about doing that.
Those threads are 90% rape jokes, dumps, and shizos fighting.

>>281819784
And calling straight girls gay and futa.

>>281819525
The “objective reality” you are freaking out about is about fictional cartoon characters. You’re talking about drawing accurate depictions of yourself/male pov/sole female/ect. inviting questions like What if I drew the porn? What if I edit the porn to look like me? What if I record myself having sex later but the video is altered slightly so it doesn’t resemble me as much? What if it’s just disembodied male genitalia?? What if you can’t see him at all?
When in reality ALL of these provide the exact same biological stimulus, you’re just layering a histrionic mental breakdown about identities on top of it. When everyone else is watching a depiction of intercourse there is an involuntary instinctual conversion to “having sexual intercourse” with such seamless fluidity that they never even consider anything to do with the identity of fictional characters - in fact, this instinct is so fucking strong in men that you occasionally can come across someone who has this happen with floor tiles.

Again, the difference is that I’m losing you somewhere in this path: >>281816798
>because they’re not just watching two bitches get it on and wanting to FFM them, they actually genuinely want to sit in the cuck chair and just watch.

>>281819817
There's no futa being posted in yuri threads?

>straight girls gay
Where?

Replying means baited btw
Troon shit will never be yuri

>>281819713
>mention yuri existing
She loves yuri and reads it, being described as "that way".

>>281819845
>troon shit will never be yuri
Correct? If anything the most tranny friendly shows are always the harshest against yuri. Just watch Wonder Egg Priority.

>>281819845
But yuri will always be troon shit.

>>281819830
All the "yuri subtext" girls are straight

>>281811706
Keep preaching it bro. There needs to be a voice of reason somewhere among all this madness.

>>281819690
>non-yurifags read them as well
So that goes against your claim that yuri isn't popular.

>>281819891
Japan doesn't have a large tranny population and most of the creators aren't trannies nor do yuri manga feature them.

>>281819928
>things need to pander to people outside of the yuri community to be popular
>see this proves yuri is popular

The one yurihater posting here right now is a gay retard.

>>281819920
90% of yuri threads aren't even about yuri subtext. That's not even an accurate claim because that kind of stuff can range from one-sided yuri crushes, to stuff that later becomes explicit, to stuff so obvious that even non-yuri people see it as gay. To give an example: Bad Girl is a show this season that people frequently debate as whether its yuri or not, and the premise of it is that the MC is in love with her senpai.

>>281819971
You don't even know the series in question, so how do you know the break-down of its audience? The couple in question appears 50+ chapters in, the series was already popular, and they've probably taken up less than 5% of the total pages.

>>281820028
>stuff so obvious that even non-yuri people see it as gay
Doesn’t exist.

>>281819989
Everyone who doesn’t wish death upon all homosexuals of any kind is gay though

>>281820141
Funny coming from the guy that can only jerk off if there's penis in the pic

>>281810642 (OP)
Sure, but slipping your way between a yuri couple (and possibly catching them both) is even hotter.

>>281820098
Because you say it doesn't? Also weird remark when I gave an example from this season to demonstrate the point. But plently of other examples exist.

>>281820186
Only dysphorics can’t get off to intercourse

>>281820258
Only faggots need a penis in a pic all the time to jerk off

>>281820280
Good thing yurisharts are the only exclusivists

>>281820258
Cuck

>>281820257
It doesn’t, your falseflags aren’t "anti yurifags who agree with you", and every series you think this applies to is canonically straight.

>>281820280
I agree, it should always be inside the girl.

>>281820346
Says the guy who only wants to watch

>>281820395
The thing you do with every porn pic.

>>281820422
Brain so damaged it can no longer imagine

>>281820361
>your falseflags aren’t "anti yurifags who agree with you"
So now you're making schizo accusations without any proof?

>every series you think this applies to is canonically straight.
That isn't correct for both of the examples I just posted. So you don't have a good track record here.

>>281820432
delusional retard

>>281820449
So easy

>>281820432
Yes, you're watching another man have sex with a woman so you can have an imagination about fucking her yourself. By that very logic, you are only watching and enjoying the situation voyeuristically.

>>281820475
Alternative explanation: looking at an apple helps you imagine the apple.

>>281819826
>The “objective reality” you are freaking out about is about fictional cartoon characters.
No, it’s about the actual things the visual stimulus is depicting. The fact that they are fictional doesn’t negate that.
>When everyone else is watching a depiction of intercourse there is an involuntary instinctual conversion to “having sexual intercourse” with such seamless fluidity that they never even consider anything to do with the identity of fictional characters
This is blatantly untrue because watching depictions is absolutely nothing like having actual intercourse, it is a purely visual stimulus. Hence why porn addiction and even just porn overuse in general can lead to things like ED, hardcore fetishes, and disinterest in actual intercourse. Also the identity of fictional characters does indeed matter to a lot of people, to say otherwise is retarded.
>When in reality ALL of these provide the exact same biological stimulus
With this logic you can jerk off to gay porn and as long as the guy looks feminine enough and you’re ackshually imagining fucking a woman in your head it’s not gay.
>they actually genuinely want to sit in the cuck chair and just watch.
The “cuck chair” that you alone brought up is there no matter what you are imagining. You are the one sperging out about the shit only you brought up that still applies to the shit you jerk off to. Semantic generalized psyche evaluations about the entire population of coomers in the world doesn’t change that.

>>281820506
I can look at an apple and already imagine myself eating it; I don't need to watch someone else do that.

>>281820447
I’m talking specifically about the
>stuff so obvious that even non-yuri people see it as gay
part (which is the only reason why you made your post). Can you read?

Jerking off to normal straight porn is something every teenager instinctively does upon getting on the internet. The fact that there are people, presumably adults, in this thread that fail to understand the mechanics behind such a basic thing is very concerning.

>>281820521
It kinda negates it when you’re spazzing out about “objective reality”
>watching depictions is absolutely nothing like having actual intercourse, it is a purely visual stimulus
Nobody said that, it’s just how it’s processed. Character identify has no impact on a pornographic stimulus unless you are insane.
>With this logic you can jerk off to gay porn
Why do you need some logic for the possible outlier freakazoid? Do you need logic for floor tiles?
>The “cuck chair” that you alone brought up is there no matter what you are imagining
Close your eyes and imagine we are having this conversation face to face. Did you invent a fictional man to take your place? You might have dysphoria.

>>281820557
Mine tastes better.

>>281813884
> I wouldn't mind my wife cheating or being raped by another woman
What the fuck are you talking about you subhuman? A normal guy wouldn’t be as mad as if it was with the opposite gender but he’d still be upset and disappointed. And if it was rape he would definitely be angry. What you're saying just proves you'd make terrible partner. Kill yourself cuck.

>>281820740
>Close your eyes and imagine we are having this conversation face to face. Did you invent a fictional man to take your place? You might have dysphoria.

https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/281455017/#q281488337

Holy schizo

>>281820647
>(which is the only reason why you made your post)
So more schzio accusations? I addressed at lot of topics in my post, so I don't know why you hyper-fixated on that one point. Is it because you can't argue the other points? Obviously some behaviour is going to be seen as gay even if it's not explicitly said as such. Even K-On had a scene like this where it was pointed out that how Yui was acting was kind of gay without her explicitly saying "I am a lesbian!".

>>281820740
>mine tastes better.
You can't even prove this because it's a subjective metric to begin with.

>>281820767
>A normal guy wouldn’t be as mad as if it was with the opposite gender
How? It’s the exact same shit.
Actually no, it’s worse, because it’s gay too, and possibly feminist. Clearly if I’m dating a libtard I did something wrong.

>>281813884
Also if she’s cheating on you behind your back she obviously doesn’t love you like you think.

>>281820849
I don’t give a shit about the other points and neither do you, you just want to use that point to pretend everything in existence is yuri and shit up as many threads as possible.

>>281820969
>I don’t give a shit about the other points and neither do you
Now you're projecting onto me? I've named several explicit yuri and even originally focused on one-sided lesbian crushes/side couples, not even on so-called obvious yuri but you only care about that for some reason (meanwhile getting your facts wrong about almost every show you talk about).

>you just want to use that point to pretend everything in existence is yuri
You don't know what I claim to be yuri. Most shows definitely aren't yuri. Based on on how wrong you've been so far in this conversation, it seems like you've been shitting up far more threads by claiming they have no yuri whatsoever when that isn't the case.

>>281820905
For obvious reasons of course. But it’s still a huge sign of disloyalty and makes you question whether you were enough for her.

>>281820740
No it fucking doesn’t, the point is you are literally objectively looking at a fictionalized depiction of a man. If I look at a picture of an apple me thinking of what color Scarlett Johanssons nipples are doesn’t change the observable reality that I’m still looking at a picture of an apple.
>Nobody said that, it’s just how it’s processed.
Literally all porn is a purely voyeuristic process that hijacks your visual reward center, it’s why it leads to problems if you don’t handle it well.
>Character identify has no impact on a pornographic stimulus unless you are insane.
Tons of people hound each other all the fucking time on character identity porn or no porn, is this your first day on the internet?
>Why do you need some logic for the possible outlier freakazoid?
So you admit that your logic would still apply there? Logic that only applies to a very specific scenario is not very good logic at all. It’s literally your own logic about the floor tiles applied to something else, YOU are the one who said that it’s all the same shit.
>Close your eyes and imagine we are having this conversation face to face. Did you invent a fictional man to take your place?
No, not that that matters anyway since porn is a factor that is outside of imagination anyway.

>>281821174
>You don't know what I claim to be yuri
You can be plural. It doesn’t matter how many people you are. And reverse searching your posting style shows the threads (you) personally like to shit up.
"Yuri subtext" will never exist.

>>281821204
>For obvious reasons
?

>>281810642 (OP)
Yuri is a fetish for obnoxious faggots.

>>281821301
If being wrong (which I haven't) is shitting up the thread, does that mean that you've objectively shit up this thread more than I have? Or is merely arguing about something not proof of shitting up a thread? Although, I'd say that your claims that I'm a secret yurifag boogieman are shitting up the thread more by being off-topic so than being right/wrong on any particular series.

>"yuri subtext" will never exist.
I've already posted several examples. Weird for something that has never happened before according to you.

>>281821480
Calling random series gay is shitting up their threads.
>I've already posted several examples
No you haven’t. Nobody calls characters that are actually gay "yuri subtext". It’s only used for popular series yuritroons like. You’re trying to justify it by saying that "even anti yurifags call them gay" when those are just yuritards false flagging.

>>281819672
>one girl reads yuri so it must be a yuri show
This is your brain on shit

>>281821288
>No it fucking doesn’t, the point is you are literally objectively looking at a fictionalized depiction of a man
Sure but we’ve already established that the problem with it is “accurate self drawn portrayals of myself” and other psycho subjective neurosis
>Literally all porn is a purely voyeuristic process
We can do the “all porn is ackshually cucked and unhealthy” bit if you really want but it sounds self defeating
>Tons of people hound each other all the fucking time on character identity porn or no porn
It CAN NOT modify a visual stimulus unless you are insane.
>So you admit that your logic would still apply there?
Is this your idea of a reduction to absurdity? Yes, in the most unintuitive edge cases imaginable the logic works for floor tiles as well. Gonna plant your flag on it?
>since porn is a factor that is outside of imagination anyway.
Huh!? You can’t imagine something pornographic?

>>281821636
I don't claim random series are yuri. That seems you be a you problem where you call every character in every show you clearly haven't even watched gay.

>nobody calls characters that are actually gay "yuri subtext"
Of course they do, because in some series, only one girl is explicitly gay for/in-love with another and the exact nature to their relationship is unclear. Although, non-yurifags would generally lump all of the examples I just listed under the umbrella term of yuribait, which is definitely a term that gets thrown around by people who aren't yurifags. Just see: https://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/%22yuribait%20never%20wins%22/
>a tale as old as time. Yuri is just a phase. Yuribait never wins.
>kek, yuribait never wins

But it must be convenient to dismiss everything you don't like as a falseflag operated by the secret cabal of yurifags.

>>281821648
No one said K-On was a yuri show. The original claim that was it had a yuri character, which is true.

>>281821863
>in some series, only one girl is explicitly gay for/in-love with another and the exact nature to their relationship is unclear
That's not "yuri subtext", you fucking retard. That's just a yuri crush. Where exactly is the subtext there? It's a plot point.
>One retarded ritualposter says yuribait so "yuribait" is only used by antiyurifags
Counterpoint: https://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/%22yuribait%22%20%22doomed%20yuri%22/
Yuritards make up new words for "straight series we like to pretend are yuri" every month. It won't make their headcanons any less delusional.

>>281822005
>where exactly is the subtext there?
The subtext is the exact nature of their relationship. Does the other girl have romantic feelings back, are they in a relationship, or is it strictly one-sided? Here's one such recent example.

Keep in mind that I don't even like the term yuribait and usually fight with people who use the term because it lumps way too many phenomena together, so it's not like I benefit from people using it. Yurifags who like yuribait are generally also looked down upon, so even if a non-yurifag admits something is yuribait, it's not like yurifags get a free pass to suddenly enjoy the show in the threads.

>Yuritards make up new words for "straight series we like to pretend are yuri" every mont
So you're example if a term that's less than year old used in a half ironic way for one particular series vs a word that's been used over 20k times since 2008?

>>281822264
Yorukura was such a bad yuribait

>>281822276
What do you define as yuribait?

>>281822310
NTA but for me yuribait is explicitly when they end up with men in the end. Class S works don't count as they are meant to be doomed.

>>281810642 (OP)
The dyke joining the harem is the true straight mans fetish

1 girl = cute

1 guy = not cute

1 guy and 1 girl = cancels each other out

2 girls = double cute

I went to college for this.

>>281822362
In my experience, that's the definition a lot of yurifags use. It's non-yurifags who usually go with "two girls who are weirdly close but there's no romantic resolution.

>>281820732
More like people grew out of this very unsatisfying window to vicarious arousal through others. Men are just not appealing to look at.
It also just makes me jealous and angry while being partially disgusted at the hairy mongrel who is usually much larger than the woman and takes up more of my vision.

>>281822362
>>281822514
>In my experience
I have the opposite experience.

I don't even want them to be lesbians. I just want them to fuck each other. Since I'm watching anyway.

>>281822481
/thread

>>281822264
>The subtext is the exact nature of their relationship
That’s not what subtext is. This is just an unresolved plot line. The yuri element is already there regardless.
That’s not the kind of things "yuri subtext" or "yuribait" ever gets used for.
>So you're example
Is one person, just like yours was.

>>281822005
FRIENDLY REMINDER to NEVER EVER EVER EVER engage with lapdog/yuri endings schizo/“I call out the bad yurifags” schizo/“yurifags aren’t delusional” schizo under any circumstances, he is obsessed with desuarchive links that the CIA themselves could never verify, he hyperfixates on semantics to the point of cutting your sentences apart and replying to them individually, he only cares about optics, and he entrenches himself in technical positions he doesn’t actually believe if they give him even the slightest advantage, because rather than defeating your argument with good faith and sound logic, he only wants to deflect/evade and delay the argument by 5 more minutes hoping that you have something better to do than continue letting him waste your time. He will continue in this manner for 24+ hours uninterrupted or until thread archives.

>>281822566
>I grew out of normalcy to become a weird fetish cultist
No you haven’t, you just fell down degenerate rabbit holes. This is the exact same reasoning faggots and trannies use btw.

>>281822650
>that’s not the kind of things "yuri subtext" or "yuribait" ever gets used for.
You already had someone call that show >>281822276, so that's already wrong. And by definition, it would be subtext because the nature of their relationship is not explicit text in the show itself. Would you call it a yuri plot? Because no one did that.

I used that "yuribait never wins" to show it being used by non-yurifags and then pointed to its general history with the 20k for comparison.

>>281822657
Yeah, I know him. He’s clearly mentally ill. The play is to wait until he moves the goalposts to some completely obviously irrelevant shit any neutral observer would be able to tell is off topic to stop replying. That way he gets his hurr durr last word yet nobody gets tricked into believing he actually won the argument.

>>281822724
Cultist how

>>281822784
>using troll posts as an argument
Really nigga
>it would be subtext because the nature of their relationship is not explicit text in the show itself
Again, that’s not what subtext means. What you’re describing is an unresolved plot line.
>I used that "yuribait never wins" to show it being used by
One person, and I showed you another person.

>>281810642 (OP)
True!

>>281822838
Only limiting yourself to one fetish and thinking everyone watching other stuff is inferior/immature/unenlightened is text book cultist behavior.

>>281811400
Lesbianism is just a smokescreen for acceptance of alphabet "people", and it worked, thanks to relentless government shilling to make it possible.

yurilionss don't concern themselves with the opinions of culture sheep

>>281822830
>he moves the goalposts
You mean how you've constantly moved the goal posts in this very conversation from how yuri isn't popular to this one specific type of thing doesn't exist to non-yurifags don't ever use this specific word.

>>281822905
>what you’re describing is an unresolved plot line.
I quoted some people using the term outside of trollposts, if you had read my post.

>that’s not what subtext means.
>the implicit or metaphorical meaning (as of a literary text)
The implicit meaning in this series being whether they are in a romantic relationship or not. At best, in your own logic it's an unresolved yuri plot line, so wouldn't an apt name for that be yuribait? One expects that all plotlines will be resolved by the end of the series.

>>281822657
>because rather than defeating your argument with good faith and sound logic
Can you even describe what the other anon's argument is here? Do you agree with it?

>>281810642 (OP)
It's a tranny fetish and its popularity is wavering.

>>281820732
According to yurifags, watching straight romance/porn is gay because there's a guy on the screen. But lesbian romance/porn is the straightest thing ever because of the "no men & two girls = better" reasoning.
Reverse the role, and it's like calling a housewife gay because she rather sleep with her husband instead of shlicking to yaoi porn 24/7.
They're unable to comprehend normalcy, so it's a waste of time to argue with someone devoid of common sense.

I say this with no exaggeration, but yurifags somehow dethroned fujos from their "most obnoxious shipper in any fandom" seat.
Which is a fucking feat to say the least. Fujos are mostly women, being annoying, irrational, and loud are literally part of their nature. Yet yurifags (men) somehow surpasses them.
Not sure whether I should be impressed or disgusted.

>>281821799
>we’ve already established that the problem with it is “accurate self drawn portrayals of myself” and other psycho subjective neurosis
That’s just your stubborn refusal to admit to observable reality. You objectively jerk off to men or if you want to get technical, pictures with men in them. You’re the one doing mental gymnastics as to how that’s not actually the case. Funny how you speak of “neurosis” when you’re the one being a neurotic spergout about women kissing.
>if you really want but it sounds self defeating
It’s not a “bit” it’s a fact, backed by hundreds of studies.
>It CAN NOT modify a visual stimulus unless you are insane.
Wtf is your point here? What’s your definition of “character identity”?
>Is this your idea of a reduction to absurdity?
It quite literally is retard your logic was:
>What if I drew the porn? What if I edit the porn to look like me? What if I record myself having sex later but the video is altered slightly so it doesn’t resemble me as much? What if it’s just disembodied male genitalia?? What if you can’t see him at all?
>When in reality ALL of these provide the exact same biological stimulus
Read [EXACT SAME], the logic still applies to my scenario, also the “most unintuitive edge cases imaginable” is one of the most popular porn categories and scenarios in the modern day that has been discussed on /a/ for decades.
>Huh!? You can’t imagine something pornographic?
Porn is a outside factor, read >>281821288.

>>281823180
>tranny fetish
Not in Japan (or the west for that matter)

>its popularity is wavering
There are more yuri series than ever right now. A yuri manga was in Kadokawa's Top 10 best selling manga for 2024.

>>281823216
It is in everywhere. Autogynephilic fetish for touched freaks.

>>281823281
>autogynephilic
Yuri isn't made for self-insertion though. To give an example, yuri VNs have both characters on-screen rather than being written from the POV of one of the girls.

>>281810642 (OP)
The reason why Yuri is pure is because lesbians literally are unable to have sex.

>>281823316
And yet yuri is mainly consumed and defended by mentally ill freaks, just a quick scroll through the other thread is enough to make everything clear.

>>281823180
>tranny fetish
Trannies don’t like lesbians because they remind them that they’ll never be real women and never have an actual lesbian relationship(because they are men)

>>281823369
>Trannies don’t like lesbians
nta but unfortunately this is absolutely not true

>>281823363
Where are the tranny series being discussed in >>281809291?

Yuri is only good as a warm up for a FFM threesome

>>281811400
Both of them are the direct result of relentless propaganda fed by the media establishments, brainwashing from the internet and disorbered families who do not care enough about their offsprings' future. We could all be like Amish with just enough discipline and remove anything that harms societial cohesion altogether.

>>281823409
You do realize that multiple different kinds of trannies exist right? From your basic traps who want to fucked by guys, to girls who consider themselves "non-binary" to rebel against dad, to the subset of guys who want to date other girls as guys. All of these groups have different opinions.