Thread 281998772

The Demon Lord RESAPWNS?!?!?!

forced animation

forced bait

at least half the things in the frieren column are false

>>281998772 (OP)
Frieren is naruto for girls and fem brained men
>>281998862
Yet you couldn't name one lol

>>281998772 (OP)
Berserk has demon lords, bro

>>281998772 (OP)
Which concepts from DQ specifically does this image have in mind?

>>281998772 (OP)
>frieren
>harem

>>281999041
>harem style
>1-2 males
Yeah, it's accurate. All the characters are female except for stark and the blonde haired dude

>>281998772 (OP)
>instantly kills you
heh... nothin personnel, anchan

>>281999086
Stark is a harem MC?

>>281999041
>>281999086
The femmc is frieren, it's obviously an otome reverse harem. It will end with Sein, Stark and the ghost of Himmel all gangbanging Frieren.

>>281999009
It doesn't have a Dragon Quest style 魔王 which is what the OP is referring to, not the basic concept of a lord among demons.

>>281998772 (OP)
Frieren is DnD not DQ, retard

>>281999255
this pic is so good and truthful i decided to post it several times. what's wrong with doing this on imageboard?

>>281999285
Sometimes words refer to something contextually specific and aren't to be taken as literal. This is obviously a surprising notion to you which I find surprising.

>>281998772 (OP)
I've not seen anything in this image besides a couple seasons of konosuba but I'm pretty sure half that shit doesn't apply to fririen and konosuba doesn't have a plot based around a single subversion.

>>281999436
Konosuba has no plot at all. It only exists to poke fun at isekai and everything men like, it was written by a woman after all

>>281999178
In your supposed Native Isekai there is no clearly defined demon lord archetype, the trope is nothing but a title and this is barely any different in true isekai

>>281999474
The authors other 2 series are actual subversions of Isekai, konosuba itself is played totally straight while pretending it's not

>>281998772 (OP)
>native isekai
I’m still surprised the 7 or so people on /a/ that use this term are still pushing it. I guess it’s likely they’re non-Japanese-speaking ESLs who don’t understand what either word means.

>>281999525
Neither OP nor yourself know what isekai means.

>>281999696
I'm not, it's a useful term. In the end the whole other world/reincarnation thing is only one cliche in a big pile of cliches that have turned into a pretty distinctive flavor of slop.

>>281999991
Kys

illpostitagainuntilitbecomestrue

>>281999113
Is that... le vsbattles powerlevel guy?

>>281999255
>he doesn't reencode and randomize image dimensions before posting bait
Nah, couldn't be me.

>>282000470
It's Sokushi Cheat man, the mover of plots, eraser of enemies, the instant kill god himself

I isekai burger OP's ass

>>281999991
>People display this bias when they select information that supports their views, ignoring contrary information or when they interpret ambiguous evidence as supporting their existing attitudes.
Yes, if you have confirmation bias who wants to dismiss Japanese media this term will always be useful to you because it confirms your beliefs that JAPAN BAD and you'll always be able to interpret things in such a way.

>>281999399
Sounds like moved goalposts to me.

>>281999696
Least people have accepted soft seinen is never gonna catch on, although I still ocasionally see HxH fags pushing the general idea behind it

Hard Kodomo is a term with actual value though

>>282000515
The first things he killed were any chances of him having a personality or an interesting plot.

>>281999696
More catchy than Narou-kei

>>282001277
Maybe let's not put "kodomo" and "hard" in the same sentence

>>281999696
Bullshit, all of these is me under different personas.
No, I won't admit this in any other thread.

>>282001378
If the Kodomo can't even get hard that seems even worse to be into

>>281999696
It's a good term, the only flaw is stretching it to include series that don't quite fit the bill

>>282000515
>>282000470
Silence.

>>282001627
Retard

>>281998772 (OP)
Frieren is garbage YA litrpg tier fantasy. And I don't even like Berserk for obvious reasons

>>281999041
Also
>MT
>not harem

>>281998772 (OP)
You could have used Goblin Slayer instead of Frieren, it is literally native Isekai since it is based off D&D

>>282005547
But that would make it so much less of a blatant bait

>>282005662
Keep Seething Frieren fanboy

>>281998772 (OP)
>harem style
>plot based around subversion
So blatant lies then

>>281998772 (OP)
>harem style cast (1-2 males, rest female)
>Guts, Isidro, Farnese, Schierke, Caska
Berserk should be colored green

>>282006536
>berserk
>magic system
Everything before and after the golden age arc is not canon

>>282006564
It's not about Berserk, it's about any nip fantasy manga/LN that started pre-2000.

can someone explain why someone would say native isekai and not fantasy?

in Frieren, who are "characters that are transported to or reincarnated in a different world".

Fantasy is a genre of speculative fiction that involves supernatural or magical elements, often including completely imaginary realms and creature... is that not Frieren?

Please explain why native isekai is not fantasy? unless native isekai is just someone trying to make fetch happen...

>>282006672
Apart from the obvious baiting, there's also just people associating the genre with its supposed cliches and stereotypes over the actual works of the genre, often because they don't actually watch these shows or only watch very specific kinds of shows. So when they see a show that even remotely reminds them of the imaginary version of the genre in their heads, they immediately associate the show with that genre regardless of whether it really has anything to do with that genre at all.

>>282006672
They could just say Isekai. The whole "characters that are transported to or reincarnated in a different world" is just a retarded interpretation by foreigners.

Forced meme

>>282007470
Only intelligent post in this thread

>>281998772 (OP)
>japanese-style fantasy hater
How many times do you need to be blown the fuck out?

>>281998825
OP thinks that anything that isn't westernized dogshit is "native isekai".

Reminder japan themselves will label any rpg fantasy as isekai.

>>282009881
Yes, illiterate retards like you are everywhere. Doesn't make you any less stupid.

>>282009881
Japs are retarded, are you retarded?
Go back to /v/

>>282006434
You forgot
>Silat, Daiba, Roderick, Seprico, Skull Knight

>>282007470
I can respect this. I like the idea that it's referring to the aspects of a typical isekai with: huds, leveling, etc. Thanks for the insight :D

>>282008453
True, isekai just be fantasy. I was merely using an english driven definition of it. So "lost in translation" would make sense.

>>282006564
Not true + Void and Femto use magic in the eclipse.

>>281999474
>everything men like
kek

>>281999696
>Aeigh, is that a word not defined in Merriam Webster??? That's impossible! it's an oxymoron! Everyone using it must be ESL and don't even know Japanese!1!!!
NPC or eop mutt, call it.

>>281998772 (OP)
I'm telling you, Frieren will end up being surprise isekai, Himmel is 100% an isekaijin.

>>282001320
The plot was pretty good though, it just doesn't treat the watcher as a drooling retard by throwing exposition left and right, also Yogiri personality is pretty cool, someone you would want to chill with.

>Native Isekai
What's next? saying SAO is an Isekai?

>>281998772 (OP)
frieren world building is actually poor as fuck
it's lucky it got the animation it had

>>282003017
>kills your Recycle Bin

>>282016259
whos stronger than mary sue frieren
also yes school and mage exam and shit was ciche and boring af

>>282016259
Saying that demon lord is an isekai thing is fucking retarded, literally 80% of all battle manga have a big baddie that's a demon.
Also what does Game-esque magic system even mean?

>>282016356
Demon King, Serie, Himmel, Flamme and probably a few others

>>282016259
Berserk late party is balanced, I wouldn't call it a harem.

>>281998772 (OP)
Most isekai I watch don't even have these attributes.
You must watch some generic SAO shit.

>>282016259
The characters in Frieren are even categorized in S class, A class, etc... and farming aura is not a meme in it.

>>281998772 (OP)
This chart is retarded.

>>282006564
>having to ignore 75% of the series in order to make a point
If a large part of a series is bad then the series itself is bad.

>>282013609
>What? People are calling me a retard for using a nonsensical bait term? Impossible!