Thread 282018165

How the fuck could Killua possibly have lifted 16 tons before learning Nen in order to open the gates? Even if Baki-tier logic was applied here and he could concentrate every single muscle in his 12 year old body into a single region (his arms and hands), there's no way in hell you could make the body of a slightly-muscular 12 year old child lift 16 tons of weight.

That would require Killua to be like one of those kryptonians/viltrumites of superhero comic books who have "smart cells" in their bodies making their systems function differently and that's why they are so superhuman compared to normal humans. But this 16 ton lifting logic is tied ONLY to pure real-life physics/biology without including fictional things like Nen at that point in the story.

Hunter x Hunter is absolutely insane and even Naruto or Bleach have more internal logic than Hunter x Hunter does.

Because the writer decided he could.

Gon lifts a fish several times the size of his own body over his head and runs across whale island without breaking a sweat in chapter 1

I started reading this today, coincidentally, and really quickly I realized I shouldn't think about that kind of shit.

>>282018165 (OP)
>But this 16 ton lifting logic is tied ONLY to pure real-life physics/biology without including fictional things like Nen at that point in the story.
Some people are simply superhuman in hxh though, like gon is
The hunter exam itself is built for superhuman people, just look at dudes like hanzo and stuff, you don't just casually run for however many miles that shit was, and those folks were all pre-nen too

>>282018165 (OP)
Probably using trace amounts of chakra chi kai from nen unlocked birth semen

Killua being immune to electricity is the weirder thing.

>>282018165 (OP)
My head cannon is that he was using nen unconsciously. But it's been a while, they don't need a proper "unlocking" to use it do they? Only guidance, right?

Killua was already a superhuman assassin who could move faster than the eye could follow and rip a guy's beating heart out of his chest without him even noticing, all without Nen. Gon also possessed superhuman reserves of stamina and toughness even without Nen training. Killua was trained from birth to have superhuman physical ability, and Gon is the classic Kintarou archetype. Google it, I shan't explain basic Japanese folklore to you.

>>282020144
And what about Leorio, who is meant to be the average joe with an ordinary background that the audience would mostly relate to? Him training for a few weeks on the Zoldyck estate to be handle heavier weights allows him to exert 8 tons of force in order to open a door, that's like lifting a Savannah Elephant by yourself.

Togashi clearly intends his story to be a little more grounded in reality compared to other shonens, he even tries to make the world map of Hunter Hunter similar to ours but reversed. In Naruto, you can at least handwave a bunch of superhuman things happening by saying that everyone is also using chakra, but Hunter x Hunter, at least in the earlier stages, doesn't include the use of Nen for any of these superhuman feats.

>>282020312
Even before the estate, didn't Leorio run 50 miles or something during the hunter exam? And only in a matter of a few hours?

>>282018165 (OP)
It's badly written shounenslop. Don't think too much about it.

>>282018165 (OP)
he doesnt

>>282018165 (OP)
i learned to read before going to school, and it is the same with kilua and nen, he developed an intuitive understanding of that power

>>282018796
Yeah, it's whatever Togashi thought would be cool at the time.

Hisoka will marry Machi

>>282018258
dude is like me fr fr

>>282018165 (OP)
>kryptonians/viltrumites
Stopped reading right there

>>282018165 (OP)
It's poorly written then and now

Gon and Killua get hard walled at the 21st Tenkaichi Budokai.

>>282018165 (OP)
He trained really hard.

You can be superhuman even without Nen. Nen just makes you extra superhuman.

>>282018165 (OP)
a frodo thread? How nostalgic.

>>282020312
>Leorio, who is meant to be the average joe
An average joe wouldn't be able to pass the Hunter exam.

>>282018165 (OP)
There's inconsistencies in everything if you pry hard enough. This is why nitpicking is cringe

>>282018258
why is /a/ full of gay pedophiles?

>>282026524
why is the manga you're reading also full of gay pedophiles?

>>282018872
They probably use nen to some degree subconciously before becoming fully aware of it and utilizing. Manga basically confirms this by showing example like komugi, and there was also that line about highly talented high performance individuals are more likely to use nen.

>>282019025
It's fantasy so we probably shouldn't overthink things. But if your body is 'immune' to electricity, how does the brain and nervous system work?

>>282018165 (OP)
it's shounenshit, you can do that just by training very hard for a week and eating a lot of rice

Why were the earlier generations of chimera ants more insect like and the later generations more furry leaning? The baseline stayed the same so wouldn't the ant traits have to diluted and bred out over the course of several generations? How do chimera ants stay ants?

>>282024760
Hisoka is already married to Illumi

>>282028324
Why do you reply to shitty bait thread?

Hisoka's baby mama

>>282028472
Femcel HMwhale pls. Machi doesn't give a shit about this cringe dicklet pedoclown.

>>282018165 (OP)
I wasn't bothered by characters being able to just get superstrength naturally, but by the fact that they proceed to introduce Nen right after that, rendering the wackiness unnecessary.

>>282018165 (OP)
It's just like how in One Piece characters without devil fruits can still be super strong, why is Killua being young a factor?

>>282018165 (OP)
>ONLY to pure real-life physics/biology
OP needs to up his trolling game if he thinks mangaka think about real life physics in their action stories.

>>282020312
>>282018165 (OP)
The Zoldycks are not ordinary humans. From the start, Togashi frames them as assassins who have pushed their bodies beyond normal limits for generations.
Killua is introduced as a prodigy among the Zoldycks themselves even compared to his brother Illumi. His physiology is simply not that of a "slightly muscular 12-year-old child." In-universe, their training is so brutal that Gon and Killua casually endure tortures and poisons that would kill most people instantly. This sets the precedent that Zoldyck biology/training ≠ real-world biology.
Gon, before learning Nen, casually drags a 2-ton stone slab in Heaven’s Arena and survives hits that would liquefy a normal body. Killua is established as faster, stronger, and deadlier than Gon even before Nen training. If Gon can accomplish multi-ton feats without Nen, Killua being able to handle the gates isn’t inconsistent.

>>282028324
The queen started a positive feedback loop of birthing stronger soldiers, stronger soldiers hunt larger animals (insects -> birds -> mammals -> magical beasts), larger animals make for genetically stronger soldiers.
>diluted and bred out
The quuen's species is chimera ant, not just chimera. Her ant traits are in every offspring, as they're all her first-generation children. If some of the squadron leaders had interbred, then perhaps they would dilute the ant genes eventually.

>>282030140
Die already faggot cancer femcel

>>282018165 (OP)
even super smart chess players can use nen without knowing it exist
basically, nen is not something you activate or deactivate, everyone uses it subconsciously.

>>282031217
hans nieman used nen in his butt to cheat

>>282032761
lmao

I just chalk up early Hunter to Togashi not being 100% sure of nen