Thread 282055542

Why are Italians so into classic anime?
Im on vacation in Milan with my father and we went into an Manga store they are quite common here and they have a bunch of figures of older shows like Hokuto no ken Mazinger original Gundam and my father just mentions how he grew up watching all those shows and likes them
He is a totally normal guy otherwise he usually only watches football on tv or f1 like everyone else
But you can find this sort of stuff everywhere almost every store i went had some Mazinger figure and in Germany i cant find that anymore?

because Italy and Japan are allies

Same as France, it was broadcasted back in the early 80s so it had time to settle. Most americans learnt anime existed only 20 years later

Some TV executives in the 70s had the foresight to license lots of anime from Japan because it was cheap and they were a big hit.

They are into classic anime because classic anime was shown there in the 1970s and 1980s.

>>282055542 (OP)
Same in the Middle East and Latin America. During the cold war, poorer countries brought over international entertainment to supplement their own cultural output.
Japanese media especially anime which hadn’t yet become a hot commodity could be licensed for cheap, and so as lot of people from those countries grew up watching anime.

>>282055623
i thought they only watch Dragonball in latin america and nothing else?
also isnt anime even the more tamer shows against sharia law?
Even Dragonball had some nude scenes like kid goku catching a fish
Is it just heavily censored in the middle east or does it get a pass?

>>282055607
>>282055610
Sounds like the opposite of Bongolia. Pretty sure we only had it after 'Murica, and the first impression people had of it was Narutards and shitty hentai.

>>282055678
You're wrong

>>282055542 (OP)
>why is [thing] popular in [place]?
Gee, I dunno man

>>282055678
All sort of anime is popular in Latin America, Dragon Ball is just the biggest one.
Latinos have seen all the classic shows HnK, Sailor Moon..etc
As for the Middle East, I don’t know much about the local censorship situation but I have friends from there and they are massive weebs.

Is Leiji Matsumoto big between italian boomers? I watched an italian film recently and they were watching fucking Yamato out of nowhere

>>282055687
U.K? Yeah the anime scene is not big there. You guys were just making music until the 2000s.
The only anime you had is Thomas the Tank Engine.

>>282055542 (OP)
Kindred people
They may look complete opposites in terms of attitude, but a closer look reveals they are parts of the same soul
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harukichi_Shimoi

>>282055678
Anon you need to shut CNN off and learn more about how non-americans actually live. They’ve got Netflix, Crunchyroll, satellite channels, and yeah, anime. Just like anyone else.
I've been in Morocco, Iran, Egypt also Liban. 95% of Muslims never experienced shariah law and don't care about it. Saudi Arabia regularly promotes anime.
As for censorship there was censorship but that was the case everywhere.
I'm not sure about specific cases of censorship in latin American or middle east, but in France before the 2000s they regularly changed characters names to french sounding names. An episode also got axed because James was crossdressing.

>>282055817
Pokemon episode*
Dragon Ball is popular in Latin America but they don't watch only that, obviously.

>>282055542 (OP)
Because Italy was the first west country to import anime

>>282055542 (OP)
For tv stations, anime was cheap to air compared to burger shows or making their own.

>>282055678
Censorship was probably expensive. I grew up watching uncensored Ranma tits.

>>282055542 (OP)
It was broadcasted
Even my 50 years old boomer dad used to watch stuff like Mazinga on tv when he was a kid, and others like Lupin were also a hit.
So it just stuck, every generation was used to watching animes since they were kids.

>>282055754
Yeah. We got Captain Harlock in 1979 and Uchu Senkan Yamato in 1980.

We had so many imported anime on public tv that we didn't even see them as "japanese anime", they were just cartoons.

>>282055542 (OP)
My man anime is popular worldwide

>>282056092
Galaxy Express is a classic too, even moreso than Yamato

>>282055678
middle eastern bros had captain tsubasa and gundam wing

>>282055542 (OP)
Saint Seiya, Devilman, and revolutionary utena

>>282055766
What about the hobbits?

>>282055767
I’m betting he support Kantokuen and protest 1941 Operation AI/Z

>>282055542 (OP)
In the 70s anime was a good resources for both major and minor TV channel to fill the schedule.

Later, in the 80-90s, Mediaset invests further in cartoon from every country (especially anime) for their kids programs.

>>282055613
I find curious how americans were empty in that period. After the 60s everyone was getting stuff while they had to wait to late 90s.

Anime and Italian giallo cinema are basically the same thing.

>>282055542 (OP)
>>282055623
Because their kids entertainment isn't gated and censored by the jewish hollywood producers.
>t. asian who grew up watching Doraemon.

>>282057478
>t. has only watched anime and italian giallo cinema in their entire life

>>282055542 (OP)
Personally I don't think js more or less popular than in other countries

>>282055542 (OP)
- End of the state monopoly on radio and television frequencies in the mid-1970s
- Cheap cost to buy anime. And even cheap cost to dub her without losing quality. Slightly overstating things, the Italian dubbing school is still the best among the European ones. However, the national Italian TVboardcoaster arrived to co-produce an anime too. (RAI relationship with anime is unstable from co-production, refuse, trying to imitate Mediaset/TMC/MTVItalia/Gold. Trying to push Digimon against Pokemon on Mediaset; acquiring Dragon Ball OAVs; Precure to oppose Sailor Moon/MewMew/Card Captor Sakrua; Gals! Ufo Baby! You're under arrest transmitted)
- "Italianization" of the most "Japanese" culture aspects so that people couldn't be confused. But the Italianization changed during the years or from the boardcoaster/acquiring of rights choices, so you can see Ranma nipples on TMC but Lina Inverse (or better Rina) has the fever on Mediaset everyt 28's days. Another example is replacing the original opening/ending song with "native ones." However, this lasted until the half 00's when MTV Italia created an anime programming in its schedule (Excel Saga, Cowboy Bepop, Nana, Wolf's Rain, Evangelion, Aquarion, Trigun, GTO, Alexander, Karekano, Gantz) which was a great success, opposing to the decline of Mediaset programming (Naruto, One Piece for teens; Doremi, Sgt. Frog, Sana, Mew Mew for kids) repetetions of Captain Tsubasa, Lupin, Sailor Moon, Card Captor Sakura)
- Until the half 80's or better until the sort of "animation monopoly" by Mediaset, Manga/Anime was judged as a sort of "counterculture" respect native comics or USA comics.
- Toy manufacturers takes advantage of this from the first day.
- Parallel diffusion of manga magazines / fanzines.

>>282057332
>satanic panic
>comics code authority
>Hays code
>american christo-fascism and the associated jingoism growing in influence during the cold war and the Reagan administration

>>282055754
Yep, and it was big. Galaxy Express was even more loved, maybe. Same period, I remember watching in tv also Gatchaman, and the Cyborg 009 1979 series. Not to mention many of the Time Bokan series. And Casshern, and Hurricane Polymar. I fucking loved Trider G7 at the time. https://anidb.net/anime/2349

>>282055542 (OP)
They have no culture and therefore pretend to be French who are honorary Japanese.

>>282057930
Americunt saying italians have no culture has to be top 3 worst posts ever

>>282055542 (OP)
Comics were always popular in italy, and italy as a whole is a much geekier country than the rest of Europe.
Anime came quite early here as well, with many of them arriving in the 70s and 80s.
Until the early 2000s there was also a lot of localization to adapt anime to a greater or lesser extent to the local culture and make it feel closer to the Italians
Manga is also much cheaper than in many other European countries.
There are many other reasons, but these are the most obvious ones.

>>282055542 (OP)
Yuropoors discovered they could buy Japanese anime for peanuts instead of the expensive American cartoons. And they were also way popular so it was the perfect deal.

You should have made the thread about France. It stayed the 2nd biggest market after Japan for years with 5 times less people than USA.

>>282059389
Two very different markets. People in Italy love their Go Nagai, their mecha, their leijiverse...

>>282055542 (OP)
I'm pretty sure every generation of kids between the 80's and the advent of Crunchyroll has watched Fist of the North Star

>>282055542 (OP)
I worked with a normalfag who was born in Italy and moved to the UK for uni and she has absolutely no interest in anime at all, but has still seen Fist of the North Star, Tiger Mask and Lupin III because it was on TV there when she was a kid. Apart from those 3 I'm not sure she could name a single other show. It's like how every single guy of a certain age in the UK has seen DBZ whether they were a fan of anime or not, it was just something that everyone watched at one point. The only other thing quite like it was WWF.

>>282060052
>likes no anime but the cool ones
You dummy dummy anon, you should have married her

>>282060095
Nah she was way too hot to be with someone like me and this was before I got rich so I had nothing to offer in return. And she's married now anyway so no chance. I am surprised we are even still friends and in contact with each other after we both graduated, that was over 10 years ago.

>>282060292
>this was before I got rich
Can't just leave that hanging

>>282055542 (OP)
It's not just Italy also France and Europe on general to a lesser extent

As opposed to America that has it's own animation European countries imported a lot more Japanese material and they did it earlier and at a larger scale than America

Grendizer was really popular in Italy and France and Go Nagai still has fans

>>282060315
I just work in a high paying job which took a fair bit of time to get to this wage, no exciting story involved sadly. Me and her both do the same thing (so does her husband) but I have capacity to make more money than them, but I am pretty lazy so I can't really be arsed and I live a lifestyle where I don't use money so again, can't be arsed.

>>282060052
Damn I'll never forget the first season, green jacket, italian opening. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHHVuCeSNJ4

>>282055754
The country where the flop 3D Harlock movie did the most was Italy.

>>282055542 (OP)
Mickey Mouse had his own comic book in Italy before the USA. They simply like comics and cartoons. Real shame Disneyland ended up in Paris (frogs still like the mouse, just not as much) instead of Milan (for longer tourist seasons and lower operating costs).

>>282061459
I always forget that the first op is Planet-O and not the armonica one

>>282061629
I heard that the anime was heavily altered for the italian broadcast and was originally some kind of sex ed show

>>282061561
>They simply like comics and cartoons.
There are a few countries in Europe that have a longer tradition of comic books than USA do. It's not a surprise they also like manga, it felt like for a long time in the west that comics were "for kids" and that wasn't the same in Europe, which might also be why they were attracted to manga much earlier.

>>282055542 (OP)
>>282055567

>>282055542 (OP)
>anime is super popular in the us now
>but it isn't popular in the rest of the world anymore
what happened

>>282062395
It still is, people from around of the world just don't have disposable income like americunts do.

>>282055610
To be fair, we had instances of that in America. The issue was that a lot of anime, especially in the 80s, just didn't have anywhere in the US it would make sense to air. Like they tried bringing Dragonball/Z to the US even as late as the early 90s, but there just wasn't a good home for it until Cartoon Network started making anime its thing. Before that, it mostly aired in random dead timeslots on broadcast channels.

Hell, my local FOX network aired fucking Pokemon in a 2PM dead slot because it didn't fit with the rest of the cartoons on the network.

>>282062395
>more faggotry in modern anime
>US responds positively to it and alphabet soup xeple latch onto it
>rest of the world doesn't
Simple as.

>>282059389
>You should have made the thread about France
but I'm not french and have no knowledge about france?
I made this thread because im curious why a bunch of italian boomers of all things watch Mazinger and Gundam of all things

>>282055542 (OP)
I wish you normalfags had never discovered anime...

>>282055542 (OP)
Guys have you ever listened to the Italian ops?

>>282066310
All the siglas are peak

>>282066347
What's your favourite?

>>282066310
Those that haven't are missing out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MldI1q6eRI

>>282066377
Very nice

>>282055542 (OP)
axis friends

>>282066373
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wMlJHuudWQ

>>282066377
The bad thing about Giorgio Vanni singing so many Siglas is that there’s a point where some of them inevitably end up sounding too much alike, which makes it feel boring. It's always cool to hear a sigla from the 90s/2000s that isn't sung by him or Cristina D’Avena

>>282066377
As much as I love italian disco siglas, seeing DB GT without dan dan kokoro hikareteku is very weird

>>282066671
Well Italian dubs have unfortunately a huge problem with nepotism, is often the same voices and a dub voice that so neutral that at times it will outright kill the character.

>>282055542 (OP)
yay Italia

>>282066798
>Italian dubs have unfortunately a huge problem with nepotism
Sounds like typical dubbing industry to me.

>>282067015
Well I don't know about other nations, so I can't tell.

>>282066373
Uh maybe this one. TV size+full. Still get my eyes a bit teary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RnhXUstGrU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF0KGQ2VM78

>>282055542 (OP)
Cause of the dubs. it's a shame that the openings-sigla where mostly created for the dub instead of covers of the Jpn OP Ed
https://youtu.be/Yelr304_PSw?si=y00LY-EdIOOrO0nv
No onions mucho de ver en dobalej italiano :v

>>282067373
That ending...

>>282067373
>the pantyshot at 0:58
Soul.

Soliti italiani provincialotti del cazzo che pensano che a qualcuno all'estero possa fottere dei cazzi loro e della loro nazione

>>282067521
Do you see me complaining about Americans constantly talking about their shitty dubs and voice actors as if anyone gives a fuck?

>>282067557
This is an american website. Gli italiani su internet sono come scimmie scappate dalle gabbie. Avete parlato dei vostri anime anni 70, ora mancano solo le bestemmie e Forza Juve/Juve Merda

Berlusconi's favourite anime was Lupin and he owned mediaset (based?)

Couple that with cheap licenses, relatively similar culture and shared history. The thing is that up until around 2012 most people didn't know 'anime' as 'anime' in Italy, they just knew them as cartoons airing on tv like any other, without even knowing they were Japanese or that there was a dedicated fandom for them (They were adapted for an Italian audience instead of translated, like 4Kids did for the US) , there have been things like Luccacomics for decades but they weren't all that mainstream till the past decade or so (Atleast basing this on my experience having lived in lombardy my entire life)

>>282059618
People in Italy love their Go Nagai, their mecha, their leijiverse...

french people are insanely nerdy about mazinger and captain harlock in france ( called goldorak and albator )

never saw interstellar 555 ?

>>282067373
>vampire housband and werewolf wife
Kino

>>282067521
Solito coglionazzo che si vergogna di se stesso ed é insicuro della propria nazione

>>282067681
Sei un provinciale del cazzo. A nessuno frega un cazzo dell'Italia e delle sue stronzate.

>>282067713
Zitto che probabilmente usi i buoni pasto al fast food

>>282067606
>This is an american website
No it isn't.

>>282067713
>A nessuno frega un cazzo dell'Italia
Al giappone l'italia piace
L'america la romanticizza tantissimo

Io non vivo neppure piú in italia e ti assicuro che siamo tutto eccetto sconosciuti all'estero
Smettila di vergognarti di te stesso, si vive meglio

>>282067521
T. Terrone

>>282066373
https://youtu.be/MyHMS5EIJus
https://youtu.be/1Crm94eMuPE
https://youtu.be/-I16vdZDGzo
https://youtu.be/Es6UdnZRML8

>>282055678
From Tanzania here. Grew up reading and watching Doraemon. The Kindaichi Case Files also, plus crayon shin chan. With Doraemon in particular, I'd read and read and read and watch over and over and over again. Well, by around 12, I started playing games ( an Egyptian guy introduced them to me ) and got hooked on Dragon Quest. I thought games were all just flash stuff before, which while I enjoyed I didn't sink time into much ( Chaos faction is remembered fondly )
Then some other Kenyan guy later introduced me to SMT and other stuff like Dirty Pair. That same Kenyan guy still talks to me and still brings up Atlus stuff.
....Anyway, most the guys I knew regularly distributed hentai to one another, but I wasn't all that interested, for reasons I can't go into.
Life was instructed to follow strict policy as far as reality was concerned, but we were all free to do whatever online, and that we did, and still do.

>>282061561
Italian Mickey has always been the best Mickey.

>>282066377
I got work with Giorgio Vanni once, I prefered I didn't kek

>>282067652
You're right anon
Yes, I knew that. When Leiji sensei died there was a lot of tributes in french. But I always saw France as more gekiga, garo, Ax, alternative manga leaning (market wise). Am I wrong?

>>282055542 (OP)
because we liked anime before it was cool
also our dub and anime openings were much better than the japanese ones
SUBhumans need not reply

>>282057332
>>282057837
You remind me of how Western faggots on /co/ will talk about why the animation industry stagnated and instead of pointing out the obvious (Americans never liked animation and always treated it as kids stuff, they prefer live action, along with death of expertise during the 70s), then comes you faggots who bring up retarded libboomer takes whining about Hays code and the Comic code authority long after it stopped being relevant and about muh reagan (even when the narrative is contradictory, since it was the Reagan administration, that debatably, killed off American animation post Transformer, He-man by regulating Americans from being able to make toy commercials because its being explotative to kids, which ended up killing most Saturday morning cartoons by the 90s because the source of revenue was killed off. Not because of Christianity and family values).

The answer is obvious. Not only do Anglos not care for animation, but Anglos had their own massive entertainment industry so why would they care about importing foreign entertainment to fill their programming the way many other parts of the world did?

>>282057332

We had anime on tv here since the 60s idk wtf are you on?

>>282068746
Rare good /a/ post

>>282068770
You had some stuff early on like Gigantor and Astroboy, but during the 70s and 80s what? Robotech?

Durr hurr shit thread that can be easily solved with google search

>>282068966
Like every thread

>>282061837
Nope, it was some kind of internet legend but if you watch the raw is just a couple of doll like girls and ass more than what we got, no more than maybe 5 minutes in total

>>282057837
and its actually coming back

>>282068991
Goes to show 4cuck is for retarded goyniggers

>>282069085
go back your /pol/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGdF5Y5i9rU

we even got our own loli-idol anime singers for a while...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK46P9mSr9A

>>282068918

Gigantor, Astroboy, Speed Racer and Marine Boy.
Everything made by leiji during the 70s and 80s was also released and dubbed here just like it was in every other place they aired it. Battle of the Planets was in 78. Some go nagai stuff got released here.
Theres a bunch of shit from those years that made it here and aired on tv.

>>282068507
>But I always saw France as more gekiga, garo, Ax, alternative manga leaning (market wise). Am I wrong?
Nah man, supposedly the 4 biggest selling titles in France are OP, DB, Naruto and fucking Fairy Tail of all things. Old French people liked stuff like Harlock, Cobra, Fist of the North Star and City Hunter but the latter 2 had joke dubs. I think it's only the niche fans who like the Gekiga stuff in France, same as everywhere else.

France also love Jiro Taniguchi and Katsuhiro Otomo it seems. Taniguchi seems to be more loved in France than Japan but again, only amongst the older age group it seems.

>>282069144
I only post here because every imageshitboard is dead except this one

>>282069174
This is beautiful.

>>282068733
>also our dub and anime openings were much better than the japanese ones
Much better my ass, did you forgot about fucktons of censorship in our dub?

>>282070806
forget*

I was in Italy just the other week and I was pleasantly surprised how they translate and publish everything from babbies first shonen to obscure shit nobody reads.

>>282070545
It get better, they managed to put some kid show act in teathers when you get to see their cute songs and dances, and partecipated in some games, To my defence I was of appropiate ages for that at the time

>>282069407
>but the latter 2 had joke dub
how would a joke dub of hnk even work?
the whole series is super serius and people explode from being punched to hard all the time how are they gonna make a paradoy out of it?

>>282055687
It's a shame you guys didn't fully dub the entirety of Urusei Yatsura. The dub is legitimately entertaining.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyzFwwCBCR4

I was surprised to find that it was dubbed around the year 2000, and that only episodes 1 and 3 were dubbed.

Here is an archive in case anyone wants to watch it themselves
https://archive.org/details/lum-the-invader-girl-bbc-dub-of-urusei-yatsura

>>282071658
you never seen kung faux?

>>282055613
in italy i have met boomers who know more about lupin the third, captain harlock and anne of the green gables than some zoomers

>>282067778
why would a terrone say that, its clearly a self hating nordcuck

>>282071692
This is the only good English anime dub ever made. Facts.

https://youtu.be/5QFq33YSmVo?feature=shared&t=35

Always found kinda funny how the italian opening for Hokuto no Ken, which was written and recorded by literal whos for a small-ass TV network, ended up being the absolute GOAT.
The lyrics are actually very good, too bad almost no one here will be able to appreciate it.

>>282057971
Flailing around while you talk is not culture.

>>282055542 (OP)
tfw the only translation of Mahoujin Guru Guru is in Italian
>>282055888
Chilevisionbro

>>282072747
Anon, I...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_tMD5bTbLM

>>282072523
Always found the first few verses to be absolute kino.
Can't be arsed to translate it from start to finish but 'll try my best

>You'll never, ever, forget that moment
>the earth that trembled, the air was lit on fire, and then... silence
>the vultures circling the city rooftops without mercy
>who could ever stop the madness in the streets
>who could ever break our chains
>who could ever wake us from this pitch black nightmare
>it is you Ken, a warrior who fell like a lightning from the sky
>it is you who will lead us, and now no one in this world is alone anymore [...]

et cetera

>>282073723

most of Europe was cool back in the 90's and 00's then it went to shit

The first saint senya dub in Italian is top tier kino on the level of a greek epic poem.

>>282055567
That and Italians have true appreciation of the Arts which Japan is high end on. It's not some rocket science to figure out really.

>>282055678
Anon look man. I was born in America myself, 3rd generation Italian. But even I can tell you that what you see on American News is science fiction to the point of Cartoonish. You need to go outside or talk to people who live in those countries. You would be very surprised to know in Latin America and Europe they had all the Anime from the 1970's-1990's the only reason why Dragon Ball is extremely popular is because it is a worldwide phenomena much like Pokemon is. They all know of Captain Tsubasa, they know of Doraemon and even in SEA countries they also know of Shinchan.

Also thanks to Crunchyroll and Netflix Anime is more global which is a good and bad thing. Good because everyone worldwide can get access to Anime, but bad because it can lead to censorship due to casting a wide net for a wider audience.

>>282055743
Do not forget Saint Seiya as well. That is huge in Italy, Mexico, Russia and some middle eastern countries.

>>282059389
>US buyers outpacing French buyers
LMAO that is what the French Frys get for bragging about how they outbuy everyone around the world. Karma is a bitch.

>>282055542 (OP)
Italians are the only gaijin in the world that understand Japan. France comes close but not quite because Italians are far more equal to Japan in terms of cultural standing whereas France is more like Korea.

>>282066377
This is way better than the American version.

>>282066805
Best Ally.

>>282065322
classic

>>282068322
still no translations for X-Mickey and Horrifikland

>>282068746
This is a correct post Anglo Americans the majority of America itself, is very very authoritarian and did not place much value on the Arts, Entertainment or Quality at all. They looked down on Cartoons or Anime as "Kids stuff" especially Video Games and that 3D shows like TV's and Movies were for "Adults" even Sitcoms tried to point this out as a bad thing with Jewish writers back in the day. To them the only thing that mattered was those things.

The hardest part honestly was trying to get anything popular in America and get the ball rolling with huge successes that Americans could identify with even to where they would buy the products. It was not until Dragon Ball, Pokemon and especially Digimon managed to get the ball rolling and from there on there forth Cartoons were ceding to Anime itself. Anime makes tons of money and it is easy to import. That is when Anglos really bought into Anime wholesale and actually integrated it as apart of the culture due to the money they can make from it with Mcdonalds and various advertisements. Crunchyroll and Netflix also helped Anime gain a bigger following even to the point you can say it's too successful lol.

>>282071063
>Obscure stuff
It's what happens when you place culture above life itself. You get a lot of great things, you care about the end quality of a product than to just insert memes and trash throughout a work and say you are the reason why a work succeeds. Which sadly America does at points.

>>282066805
Italy and anime go together like peanut butter and chocolate.

>>282075434
Can you buy digital versions?
I considered learning Italian to read Altri Mondi after watching Sagittarius but it doesn't seem as available as manga.

It's because they appreciate culture as they are, and don't consider interfering . Anglos always try to destroy other cultures, and when they fail, they eventually end up corrupting it.

>>282067606
>This is an american website
Wrong, this is international website that's owned by a japanese.
Unlike 2ch that ban non-jap IP from posting in there.

>>282075517
We should not forget that America had its own superstars, like Tom and Jerry. It's also important to note that the United States was the first country outside Japan to broadcast Astro Boy. Unfortunately, a few lunatics ruined everything.

>>282076507
Like always, the people at the top ruin everything for those on the bottom. They also call equality oppression.

>>282076414
Absolutely. Ask yourself this question, who interferes with other countries cultures more than the Anglo and the Jew.

>>282075276
French people understand it, but they sort of forget about the soul and care more about the aesthetic or a mechanic.

>>282057930
>No culture
Italians invented the culture you use today. Greeks invented the Political system you use today, the Zodiac, Philisophy, the Arts all of it was invented by Mediterranean's. Come back when your 3rd world brown shit hole manages to create a culture where everyone wishes to live in.

Because we are based. No really, all italian men (and women) grew up watching Dragonball Z and GT, Naruto, Onepiece, Yugioh, Pokemon and so on.
Anime are a thing since 80s in Italy.

>>282075276
Italy and Japan are basically the same country.

>>282077170
You do realize its the same for the US right lol. Aside from OP.

>>282077419
Ehm sure but OP asked about Italy.

>>282071063
looks cool anon wheres that?
Did you buy something nice for yourself?

>>282055542 (OP)
Because pasta eaters are based

>>282078859
*pizza eaters

first you crack the spaghetti
then you boil the spaghetti till its soft
they you layer the spaghetti over your pizza with extra cheese and bake it

>>282078939
Shitalians are proud of their terrible food

>>282079031
I bet Italian cuisine is way better than your country's native cuisine.

>>282055678
Who do you think leaks early access anime movies from Emirate Airlines' private jets for the shounen spics to feed on?

>>282079031
You eat other countries food, not your own lol. I can bet you 5 to 10 odds that it's not a Hamburger and Fries that you have daily.

>>282078939
The only reason why American Pizza is this way is Anglos love DAIRY and CHEESE lol. Without it they would cry.

Nobody cares what shitalians watch or their gay nigger dubs. Nobody cares about the manga they translate because the translation quality is most likely awful and shitalian is a hideous language.

The world was already acquainted with Japanese animation in the fifties and early sixties
Nobody cares about this garbage favela artificial nation so shut the fuck up

Stop making these nigger threads

>>282057930
>no culture

>>282071063
However still we missed some hit titles like Ippo or Iruma-kun.

>>282077419
italians had anime like urusei yatsura become a national meme, lum was seen everywhere and we even had obscure shit like dash kappei and ohayo spank, also obviously love me knight and candy candy was everywhere so that my mom in her late forties posts facebook memes about it.

>>282071063
Their manga market is second only to the French in Europe. Which is kinda insane if you consider that Germany's isn't that bad either, yet still lags behind despite having 20 million more people.
But yeah, you can get stuff like Medaka Box there which you can't in Germany unfortunately.

>>282079756
>candy candy
My grandma loved that!

>>282055542 (OP)
brown people love anime

>>282067606
Sei nuovo, vero?

>>282078732
A mall in Bergamo. Sadly I don't know the language so I didn't buy anything (except for cheese because god I love parmigiano).

>>282079464
>100+ volumes
Not likely but I think I did saw Kingdom so you can dream.

>>282079910
Gotta respect people of culture.

Arupusu no Shōjo Haiji is basically a 20th century european core memory. Even my grandma watched it.

>>282079444
Altrimenti c'arrabbiamo

>>282080141
I always thought of this as a german show when I watched it as a child on tv
Heidi is a swiss folklore character and it looks Maya the bee or vicky the viking which where all shows made for german children television so it fit right in
I didn't know it was anime until very recently

>>282066347
>>282066377
>>282066468
>>282067184
>>282067373
>>282067910
>>282069174
>>282072523
You sure are men of culture

What about these?
https://youtu.be/iNj5UaE6SAc?si=IFErqIqV7nouKTJE
https://youtu.be/EbhiW07a05I?si=WKeDOrCkzK0KQxYQ
https://youtu.be/RsI3qd5iKPE?si=_zCm-InDTqvmW05s
https://youtu.be/RuRAiHH3tks?si=zlnLBDyfg-aih8pJ
https://youtu.be/uuy-zDRiZ6M?si=AaYUPcmMjgdoDM3_
https://youtu.be/YKKUk_2wjFU?si=8WZMqrwDI_c--VDe
https://youtu.be/dNdqtVivcQ8?si=71dw6DUid8I3Luo0
https://youtu.be/JQZupKuZcWQ?si=_9xONZikV5VNIWAe
https://youtu.be/QSkHyylnxPg?si=LYj69LeyPvkbGrsT
https://youtu.be/Sjo8iYDP_Y8?si=g3gV4NDYc70PH--_

>>282079756
Actually watching the italian OPening. lol that is horrid. that isn't anime to me.

>>282079031
Listen here, you could say basically any sort of bad thing about Italy and you'll probably be right, but their food is the best in the world and it's not even remotely close. No amount of coping and seething is going to change this, sorry.

>>282080115
Spokon don't sell (unless BLue Lock).

>>282075434
Was X -Mickey the horror one? That was meh. What you actually want is the detective one about Anderville.

>>282067606
>i-i'm not the average Mario. I-i'm special!!!! A-and smarter!!!

>>282080719
Mickey Mouse Mystery Magazine. That was great.

>>282055542 (OP)
We were among the First western countries to adapt anime in the late 70s/early 80s. Goldrake for example was insanely popular among boomers. Same for others works like Versailles no Bara, Heidi, and slighty later Hokuto no Ken and Saint Seiya

>>282056092
>>282056317
Oh he add these two on this list too >>282080771
All of them very popular among italian late boomers/early Xers

>>282055542 (OP)
In my country, the reception wasn't similar, but it was fairly popular. Every single person with a TV from the late 70s onwards watched Captain Tsubasa, Future Boy Conan, Romeo's Blue Skies, etc. There's even a joke from 30 years ago that we say when it rains, we'd say, "In a weather like this, Hyuga(we have a different name for him) was training to master the tiger shot." Also, when that one chinese missile went missing, someone edited Tetsujin 28 catching it, we called it Giant Thunder for some reason, though. Anime intros were great, too. So much effort was put into them. In 2008-2009, when Nokia 6120 became popular, everyone was doing silly voice-overs for anime and such. However, after touchscreens took over, I stopped seeing it happen as often, but the recent wplace thing made me realise people still like anime. It's just people here keep to their own more than others. It's an interesting thing to see how anime is received all over the world.

I only know the basic stereotypes of each country (Finland likes Silver Fang, France likes Goldorak) but I always thought it was cool that italians got a ton of original openings.

>>282055678
"Sharia Law" is a meme. No one Muslim actually agrees with any other Muslim on what it even is, because it in the end it's trying to take a tradition that either had next to no actual rules or doctrines (the Quran) or has no universal canon or is hyper focused on issues of Seventh century AD nomadic clan culture (the Hadith) that you can't actually use it to base any kind of "Muslim Society" on. It's people trying to figure out "What would Mohammed say about petroleum export duties?" when the answer is nothing, because Mohammed didn't know what the fuck petroleum was or what an export duty is. "Sharia Law" is just a way for people to say "look how pious I am" while passing the laws they were going to pass anyway.

>>282075351
fucking rats

>>282055542 (OP)
>France dubs Hokuto no Ken
Parody
>Italy dubs Hokuto no Ken
Overall faithful and well-remembered as pretty much the only major proper dub
Why are the french like this?

>>282055542 (OP)
my fav anime is hibike euphonium and it saved my life

>>282055613
What happened in the 2000s and Early 2010s then? Did they just stop importing stuff like Gundam Seed or Macross Frontier or the later Haruhi movements?

>>282055542 (OP)
The same reason it was so popular in most places besides the US and UK. They didn't have large or well funded enough home grown media industries to satisfy their populations demands for entertainment. So they did what any country does when it lacks such things, it imported foreign stuff. Now most of the time this meant American stuff, as America obviously had the largest and most well funded media industry in the world, but because they had no particular need for American media over any other Western aligned media, that meant that Japanese stuff was welcome too, which allowed it to gain a fanbase both early and quickly. America did not start consuming anime in significant amounts for a much longer time because America produced so much media for itself that there was no real market space for anime outside of the occasional auteur. Anime/Manga only really gets its foot in the door when particular aspects of American media start falling so drastically behind in things like "effective production values", technical innovation, serving certain genres, and just pure talent that American animation couldn't compete even with the advantages of things like being made in English or being visually familiar.

>>282075434
Horrifikland is a french graphic novel.

>>282061459
>italian boomers got tricked into putting a song about alien rape as a kid's cartoon opening
always makes me laugh

>>282061629
FETTINE PANATE
still better than netflix slop, at least they try to make the characters look like the anime counterparts

>>282055607
>>282060052
that's the point. i think that anime is kinda ingrained in italian history thanks to lupin, DBZ, tiger mask, mazinger and other very well known retroanime here, but i feel like we're still stuck there and never moved on as a nation.
Dont get me wrong, like >>282071063 said you can find extremely obscure stuff, like some Kamimura or Furuya seinen translated which are not even available in fucking Japan (you can see LOVE in the photo), but being an animefag still feels more natural in France than Italy.
You see people reading Hirayasumi on the bus, Ruri dragon advertisment posters in the metro, Cygames organizing horse racing cups in paris, and i accidently found a Land of lustrous popup store while walking in the fucking louvre.
Italy remains a seasonal shonenshit land for basically any city except maybe milan.

>>282067373
>"ransie the witch"
>look inside
>it's about a vampire
huh?

>>282080325
based

>>282081291
also there's this female writer who focused her entire career on writing books about japanese gooning history which are kinda insane

>>282081312
she is half vampire half wolfman, and happens to have weird powers more connected to her vampire side but still she is a hybrid

>>282074694
the only blemish is the weirdly changed names, which was done to be more toyetic
still, seiya dropping Dante was kino

>>282080985
why do you like hibike? the premise feels kinda boring and the characters are not even overtly lesbian

>>282081355
Japanese have a pretty long gooning history. They even gave erotica as gifts to foreigners before they realised that the foreigners thought less of them because of all the smut.

>>282081291
>>282081355
france has just a much longer history of weabooing than anybody else

>>282080731
I'm not special, I'm just saying you act like retards

>>282080181
Trinità

>>282081526
they are very good at imitating anime styles i'll say that much

>>282080985
Based

>>282081722
well, i dunno about that
but they do say imitation is a form of flattery

>>282081722
Xa beats 95% of japanese goon artists

Any Italian anon can chime in on how Anime is seeing by the younger gens?
Are they also into the older classics like their parents or do they watch fotm shonenslop like everyone else on the planet?

>>282062104
My name is Roberto.
ROme
BErlin
TOkyo

>>282082923
>ROBETO
What did he mean by this

>>282083031
Don't bully me I'm dysnexic

>>282082620
there's no reason for zoomers to be interested in old anime.
nobody watches tv anymore and there's little to no anime casted on the main italian tv channels. my 13yo brother watched jojo because it's an internet meme but that's it.

>>282055678
>and nothing else
Imagine being this ignorant about the world.

>>282083669
FAÇA ELEVAR

>>282083582
so like everywhere else then?

>>282081355
Based

>>282071063
Every supermarket in France has 2 or 3 times this amount of manga shelves

>>282059389
lol this was a fake news and in reality it just mean that the market aka japanese business man are going full on AI english translation so technicaly publishing more manga than France but with 3 times less book sales, just take a look at the previous number and see how the US market has never catched up the french even with a population 5x bigger

>>282085253
well, how about that >>282059389

>>282085376
Burgers don't read much, so even a small growth is to be praised
You know, the special kid in class

>>282055542 (OP)
i think covid killed more than half of the pastaweebs

>>282082620

>>282083582
This anon is right. Let say that the socials, the streamings services, the massive diffusion of internet changed that sort of monopoly-equilibrium dominated by TV-boardcasters in the diffusion of anime.
A Zoomer/Gen Alpha connects to the web, download/watch his favourite anime with Italian subs (or AngloAmerican) subs. He can shitpost with people from France, Thailand, Brazil, Angola, Germany and Qonos about other anime, using tons of slurs.

Manga had an incredible diffusion, famous bookstores have almost 1/3 of their space full of manga and even merchandise.

For my knowledge
Wop Zoomers love Demon Slayer, My Dress-Up Darling, Tokyo Revengers, My Hero Academia and obviously DBZ/One Piece/Naruto-Boruto/Bleach.

Different tastes from their big brothers/parents/grandparents still fixated with the products of their youth.
So tons of "new edition" of HnK/Cat's Eye/Tiger Mask/DBZ/Rayearth/CCS/Saint Seiya/Sana in libraries.

>>282085440
>You know, the special kid in class
the dubfags i bet

>>282061629
I still love Cristina's massive eyebrows

>>282086067
>Sana
what is that?

>>282081715
Lo chiamavano Trinità

>>282059389
Italy used to be something like number 3 or 4, so it makes sense

>>282081378
Normally, in a shounen Ranze's powers would be considered OP.

>>282087329
Kodomo no Omocha

>>282087953
i think its still in the top 5 ahead of USA since they count all english sale and add it for the US market

>>282055542 (OP)
Non è ancora finita

>>282088153
didnt know it was broadcast in Italia
its a shame that Anpanman never had a chance in Europe, weird when you think it has the biggest bread culture or matbe the hero was too ugly for the white kids

>>282087602
Continuavano a chiamarlo Trinità

>>282082620
They watch mostly old shonenslop like Naruto and One piece or overrated shit like Urasawa slop, because they get inspiration from some of our most famous italian youtubers. Basically nothing changed in 20 years. Kenshiro and other very old stuff is almost forgotten

>>282055542 (OP)
Lady Oscar

>>282087953
I think it still is. Kodansha recently bought one of the major italian publishers for a good reason.
People still buy manga and watch anime, but its not so relevant to be discussed on national television anymore

>>282090759
I fucking hate urasawa so much. I wish we had the Matsumoto-autism like the french

>>282090759
>because they get inspiration from some of our most famous italian youtubers
lol i heard that one of them did the Lupin part4 opening is that true?

>>282090962
that means you are not happy that Billybat is finally getting an english release

>>282091496
My brother saw me reading 20th century boys and asked me in an uncharacteristically disgusted tone if I was reading billy bat so I'm not sure if I should be happy that it's getting an english release

>>282090759
Only because they don't show it anymore, we used to watch it on 7gold, if they showed in on like italia uno it would be instantly popular again, still the infant-weebs will eventually manage to find their way to hokuto no ken.

>>282090559
Non c'è due senza quattro

ITALIA MENZIONATA!!

>no GuruGuru
>no Medarot
>no Monster Rancher
Let me fix that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eImYA5O2EY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wliMs2vIAFo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uKPT1hIRZA

>>282092893
what's that jelly looking thing?

>>282055542 (OP)
We fucking love Lupin III and Gundam. We are the biggest weebs in Europe.

>>282092946
Pandoro

>>282071063
È il Mondadori store/Feltrinelli, anon?

>>282093027
Very unrelated but still funny, subs are available
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_wCwTdaGyo
Fuck raisins.

>Rural Britain
>Cartoons & video games are considered to be for kids only.
>Nobody over the age of about 35 has even heard of anime.
>If you play video games past your teenage years wtf are you doing? Few do.

>>282093027
looks like a panatone

>>282092893
All kino but I rise with digimon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRkDkWVWIOs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE8PPMZ4JEU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mck5vSIU4Y

The OP for that one season of Lupin the 3rd that aired in Italy first is one of the worst songs I have ever heard my whole life.

>>282093264
It's a variant

>>282081276
The bigass pink phone, that series had SOUL

>>282093472
yeah it was dogshit, I blame some kind of nepotism or some shit, they gave it to a retarded zoomer rapper.

>>282091496
We got that translated like 10 years ago. Kinda surprising it took so long for english people considering that monster is considered a top 10 manga of all times

>>282093573
is he getting buckbreak?

>>282093544
>that series had SOUL
only if the cat can both talk and eat an okonomiyaki

>>282082620
I asked my relatives their favourite anime
>Mom(64)
1)Lupin (watched at least partially)
2)Versailles no Bara(watched)
3)Detective Conan(watched it with me when I was younger)
>Dad(64)
1)Goldrake(watched)
2)Mazinger
3)Tiger mask
>Aunt(54)
1)Harlock(watched)
2)Candy Candy
3)Ace wo nerae(Jenny la tennista)
>Big sister(36)
1)Sailor Moon
2)Pollon(watched)
3)Cats'Eye(watched)
>Me(27) before knowing what anime were
1)One Piece
2)Pokemon
3)Yu-gi-oh

>>282093677
The cat that was dubbed by the VA of basically all the anime cats in Italian television(Pietro Ubaldi)
He came as a guest in my region Con this year

>>282093895
>1)Harlock(watched)
>2)Candy Candy
>3)Ace wo nerae(Jenny la tennista)
She wanted to fuck Harlock, didn't she?

>>282093895
weird that none of the women have Princess Sarah in their top 3

>>282075276
That's probably the only reason I can find as why Italy is probably the only country that got Gintama fully published as a manga and fully dubbed in Italian(even if initially they stopped it around 50 episodes in).

>>282094196
Gintama is also finished in France retard

>>282094091
It's far less popular than all the anime they mentioned. The notable absentee is Anna dai Capelli Rossi

>>282094038
I think she still wants to fuck Harlock, apparently my grandma didn't want her to watch it.
>>282094091
Mom actually hated all the orphans anime, and in general didn't watch many anime. My aunt liked anime more and still likes them(currently watching subbed Anne Shirley and dubbed Spy×Family with my sister's crunchyroll account)and has a orphans ranking: Candy>Heidi>Anne>Pollyanna>Daddy Longleg>Sarah>Romeo>Marco>Remy>Georgie.
Sis liked(and still likes) magical girls more.

>>282094564
Remy actually traumatized 10 year old me.
Fun fact: its Italian opening was at the 6th place in Italy 1980 Hit parade and stayed for six weeks in first place.

https://youtu.be/hiSQ-n7xrfg?si=gYclwZCaM3YwNUwR
Il nouvo doplaggio di Ken il guerrero
There was another spanish redub that was interesting to watch

>>282055678
Anime I remember on open TV from 90s 2000s in Brazil:
Dragon ball
Dragon Quest
Sailor Moon
Magic Knight Rayearth
Card Captor Sakura
Saint Seya
Shurato
Yu Yu Hakusho
Popolocrois
Captain Tsubasa
Rurouni Kenshin
Akira
Slayers
Tenchi Muyo
The Little Prince
Hamtaro
Inuyasha
Street Fighter (And the shitty American cartoon too)
Medabots
MegaMan NT Warrior
Samurai Shodown
Speedy Racer
Viewtiful Joe

Looking up that is very little from the full list and there is also the stuff that aired on cable
https://animeportifolio.wordpress.com/anime/animes-que-foram-exibidos-em-uma-ou-mais-emissoras-de-tv/

>>282094688
>>282094564
Fun story: while I watched Remy as a kid, like for many other anime I never got to see the ending because of having to go back to school or other reasons. Last year I wanted to see the whole show again, and finally reaching the end where he decides to abandon his moms that he finally found after 50 episodes of suffering and to go back being homeless made me rage like nothing else in my life. I sincerely hope he died shortly after from being kidnapped or stuck in a snowstorm or from hunger like it happened many times before.

>>282094769
The og raoh still mogs the new va
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p17v4kT_7k

>>282094930
>to abandon his moms
i would do the same if i found out my mum was a lesbian cunt

>>282094272

https://youtu.be/7kL4N1Bw2Vg?si=WBS5yccvGsuHOZyT

>>282095268
retard

>>282094813
These were the Italian anime titles of the series aired in MTV anime night.

Abenobashi - Il quartiere commerciale di magia(2005)
Alexander - Cronache di guerra di Alessandro il Grande(2000)
Aquarion(2006)
Beck - Mongolian Chop Squad(2006 – 2007)
Bem il mostro umano(2002)
Black Lagoon(2007 – 2008)
Blue submarine no. 6(2001)
Cinderella Boy(2004)
City Hunter(2004 – 2005)
Cowboy Bebop(1999 – 2000)
Daitarn 3(2006 – 2007)
Death Note(2008 – 2009)
Excel Saga(2001)
FLCL(2005)
Fullmetal Alchemist(2006 – 2007)
Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood(2009 – 2010)
Full Metal Panic!(2003 – 2004)
Full Metal Panic? Fumoffu(2005 – 2006)
Full Metal Panic! The Second Raid(2008 – 2009)
Gintama(2007 – 2008)
Golden Boy(1999)
Great Teacher Onizuka(2002 – 2004)
I cieli di Escaflowne(2000 – 2001)
Inuyasha(2001, 2004 – 2007)
Inuyasha The Final Act(2010 - 2011)
Ken il guerriero - La trilogia(2005)
Kenshin Samurai vagabondo - Memorie del passato(2005)
Last Exile(2004)
Le situazioni di Lui & Lei(2002)
Lo stregone Orphen(2004)
Master Mosquiton(2000)
Michiko e Hatchin(2009)
Nabari(2008 – 2009)
Najica Blitz Tactics(2008)
Nana(2007 – 2008)
Neon Genesis Evangelion(2001 – 2002)
Punta al Top 2! Diebuster(2008)
Ranma ½(2002 – 2005)
Saiyuki - La leggenda del demone dell'illusione(2002 – 2003)
Slam Dunk(2000 – 2001)
Time of Eve(2008 – 2009)
Trigun(2000 - 2001)
Wolf's Rain(2004 – 2006)
Yu Yu Hakusho(2002, 2006)

>>282055542 (OP)
My dad doesnt watch anime but he told me that when he was young, every week he and his friends would watch Captatn Harlock together

>>282093485
Completely different impasto.
t. Pastry cook

>>282093895
How did you grow up without tiger mask, harlock, lupin, versailles etc? I'm 30 and I saw them all growing up.

>>282095438
>Alexander - Cronache di guerra di Alessandro il Grande(2000)
This was so fucking bad.

Some I had no idea they even aired, like
Time of Eve(2008 – 2009)
Michiko e Hatchin(2009)

Are there more manga with Italian settings?

>>282096081
>JoJo p.5 and a bit of p.2
>ARIA (well, it's Mars, but it's an exact replica of Venezia)
>Termae Romae
>Romeo x Juliet
>Lupin p.4
Those are on top of my head but there are probably a lot more.

>>282095846
Not completely different

>>282095910
I watched them except Tiger mask, but little me preferred pokèmon and yugioh.

>>282055542 (OP)
Romancefags are weebs, there’s even more manga/anime stuff in France and Spain has a lot too.

>>282097325
I knew about France but that's the first I hear of Spain being weeb.

>>282097325
>>282098516
is Portugal also a weeb nation or only spain?

>>282097325
Everybody likes anime, Asians, Arabs, Slavs, African, Latinos, Europeans. Anglos are the only haters and now that they realized they are losing they are trying to ban anime.

>>282081526
See Tsukasa Hojo.

>>282097325
Used to watch onisama e Ace wo nerae Ranma and kimagure orange Road back then when i was 7 years
https://youtu.be/PsPP02p4bp4?feature=shared
Q tiempitos

It's probably easier to run a niche otaku store in every other country but America due to how areas are laid out

>>282100273
you know that other countrys also have cars right anon?

>>282098793
MUITOS PARABAINS SHINJI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUkaoy1Pr7E

>>282100894
usa design philosophy is uniquely anti-human in favor of cars
also usa zoning laws mean you can't just buy a two story house in a residential area and convert the bottom into a store