Thread 282057680

I will never understand how digimon was more popular than monster rancher. Monster rancher had the superior monster designs.

Both are childrens shows.

>>282057738
Chances are that if you watched them as a child you're in your mid 30s now.

>>282057680 (OP)
>Monster rancher had the superior monster designs.
Completely disagree. In my opinion, there are a few bad looking Digimon characters, and a few good looking Monster Rancher characters. I think Digimon look better overall than Pokemon too.

Monster Rancher was Digimon if it was created by Americans

Pixie owes me sex

>>282057738
All media is created by adults for adults. Children cannot commission any media as they have no means of production. Think about it. A show about fertile women making voices is for children? They're obviously targeting adult men!

>>282057680 (OP)
Their mistake was not making a remake with the complete Pixie line as protagonists.

>>282057680 (OP)
it absolutely did not

>>282057680 (OP)
Ruki nipples make it better

>>282062842
>>282063078
>>282063194
They are just cosplaying humans

>>282063287
This is how the Pixie line works in video games

>>282063287
So you prefer anthropomorphic creatures?

>>282063287
Monster Farm has very few monsters, so one of its mechanics is to fuse two purebred monsters (Currently there are like 32) one will be the main form (Main) and the other will become secondary traits (Sub), for example fusing a Pixie as Main and a Suezo as Sub, you get a..

>>282063852
..Vanity (Sueko in japanese)

>>282057680 (OP)
Easy Digimon was funny.

>>282058062
No shit.

>>282063962
No, honestly, MR was more fun and childish, but Digimon is a masterclass in writing. Not only does it know how to balance drama, adventure, and comedy, the character development is exceptional, and don't even get me started on the japanese music; each adds strength to the scene. While as a kid I preferred MR and Pokemon, I admit that objectively speaking, Digimon anime is superior.

The only flaw I find is its fights; they were very limited and robotic, usually deciding everything with a special attack. In this department, I give the win to Pokemon. Despite being more silly and childish, it knew how to choreograph its battles better.

>>282057680 (OP)
because digimon added the cool factor like belts, scars and GUNS

>>282063892
>not SUEXO

>>282062842
>>282063326
I hate it but the art is pretty neat
Call you tell me the artist?

>>282064547
fushisha o

Warning, his art is mostly NSFW

>>282063287
And that's why the Pixie line is perfection!

>>282064729
I see thanks

>>282063483

>>282064877
Eh I hate hate when "monster" girls just look like women in costume
I think Succubus is the only one that gets a pass

You posted Mimi, OP. She's one of the reasons.

>>282066075
I had a crush on her when I watched the show way back when it aired on TV in the early '00s, and rewatching it now with my nephew, I still think she's the best character in the show. She's probably the one who has the most growth out of everyone in the group.

>>282066982
If you make your nephew watch old ass TV shows you better force him to play the classics aswell.

>>282065109
Well, MF is currently getting a second chance in Japan, and we have more variety, including:

Kyuubi: are kitsune females, but you get yuki onna, nekomata, and werewolf with fusions.

Yggdrasil: are a group of beast-girl lolis.

Kijin: are oni females.

And return Undine; a group of mermaids.

>>282066982
She's been stuck in my head for a quarter of a century now. No regrets.

>I still think she's the best character in the show. She's probably the one who has the most growth out of everyone in the group.
Agreed. She was also designed as the most relatable for the children watching at home: https://digi-lab.blog/mimi-tachikawa-and-lilimon/

Her Colon interpretation isn't realistic at all but was clearly the staff favourite. They would have made the show about her if there didn't appear to be a contractual obligation to have Taichi appear in every single episode.

>>282063230
da bun

>>282065109
>Eh I hate hate when "monster" girls just look like women in costume
better?

>>282057680 (OP)
>Monster rancher had the superior monster designs
Where's all the monster rancher porn then faggot

>>282063397
MR has also been infected with the furry virus, the last fortress has fallen

>>282057680 (OP)
Digimon had a much better anime.
You can't just slap some marketable designs on screen and say "alright, I win."
Monster Rancher wasn't bad, but it lacked depth and flavor.

Monster Rancher was better in the games as it had practical applications with the disk swap function. Monster Rancher had long since been a fixture in the PS/PS2 era. Digimon was better in the animation department as a close competitor to Pokemon. Digimon was the cooler monster show of the time versus the child like Pokemon. Monster Rancher was better in plot and darker than Digimon but Digimon held its own. Sadly Monster Rancher didn't live long and Digimon had it's identity crisis and nostalgia pandering phase. Both were staples of the late 90's and very loved by fans.

>>282057680 (OP)
Having only 1 anime season and and fewer games then falling off to obscurity will do that to you. Don't blame Digimon for still sticking around. Might as well blame Yugioh, Beyblade, Bakugon, and Pokemon while you're at it.

>>282057680 (OP)
Everything in monster rancher looked bland and without identity, be it monster design, character design, gameplay or story. The only relevant thing it had going on was the disc swapping gimmick.

>>282064305
Digimon had more lore to it with the movie which were pilot prequels to the anime proper and the sequels since then. It was like they made the anime and didn't know how to fit it all together. It was all very charming.

Monster Rancher had it's controversy too with certain episodes not being aired on TV and of course the 3rd season being released very later on. Monster Rancher took characters from the games and made their original series with them. They could have gone further and adapted other games as well.

As a kid these two things alone killed all interest in the series for me and I never watched a single episode. I still think they're dumb designs.
And looking through this threat I see a lot of human woman but with cosplay on monsters which nearly killed Digimon at one point. Waifumon are okay in small numbers but looks like the series focused on them far too hard on top of everything.

>>282072007
The eye and duck-thing specifically. Realizing I picked like the worst image to crop

>>282071937
Well yea. The matrix for monsters in Monster Rancher are base monster types with certain base colors. Then you take those monsters and combine them together in fusion to make new monsters which are just the base monster with a different color pattern. Pic related is Pixe fused with Big Blue (who is a fusion of Tiger and Golem) to make Granity (Pixe and Golem fused). The monster mixing could get very weird when you combined certain monsters together.

Digimon mechanics are different and I still, after 25 years don't get it.

>>282072048
Suezo is the mascot for Monster Rancher. They are usually good too in that they have psychic type moves. Mochi is just cute for cute sakes.

Which had the best dub opening?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNikMi0b24M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXUlVG21wEc

>>282072144
>Digimon mechanics are different
There's no base mechanic that stays over the entire series. The whole point of digimon is they're data clusters that became alive, because japanese folklore believes in tsukumogami, and time runs faster in the digital world. For digimon, your aligator rookie digimon might beat 100 other digimon, load their data (eat it), and reach critical mass after some time, evolving to its champion form, a fridge with gun arms, because among the data he loaded was an online fridge ad from costco, and a report on gun violence from CNNs website. A digimon spawning is like prompting a LLM to make a creature out of randomized data from the internet.

>>282057680 (OP)
When me and my friend were 11 we spent a stupid amount of time playing monster rancher games and putting his dad's CD collection into the PS2 to try to unlock the phoenix monster. Way better time than digimon world 1.

>>282067379
>I feel like her strength would have to be even brighter after witnessing 9/11.
>I’ve been thinking over the last seven years, what did Mimi think and do during the earthquake in 20113, after experiencing both the Digital World and 9/11?
This caught me completely off guard.

>>282072391
Monster Rancher is very simple. Just look at the pic and you can tell basically who belong to what group.

>>282072144
Did you reply to the wrong post?

The mysteries is what made it all good.

>>282072669
Mum-mew is cute, CUTE

>>282073160
She looks like a pocket Pixie.

>>282057680 (OP)
Wait a minute, there was a crossover?

>>282072669
Many of these characters were ambiguous: the wolf was the leader of a pack of bandits, the rabbit was a con artist, the red succubus and the blue golem were slavers, the golem was a sleepwalking assassin, the black succubus was a double-crossing spy, the sun boy and the snake man turned good, the metal golem was good but naive, the cat girl was just a walking joke, the eye and the white penguin, one was a jerk and the other an honorable akuma.

The fight between the wolf brothers was tragic.

>>282073218
portable onahole

>>282073307
Yes and no. It was the ending final battle in Young Hunters, one of the worst seasons. I guess trying to boost popularity because Young Hunters was so bad it made past worst seasons look good in comparison.

>>282073346
I'm wondering why it was cut from airing on TV? I thought I had missed it but sure enough when the reruns came it was cut. That and the Naga battle, which I do understand why it got cut.

>>282072144
How so?

Digimon can evolve into whatever, but everything aside vpets try keep some form of consistency. Agumon for example can evolve onto any other dinosaur mon or something that fits his fire element, so on, and that on top of "canon" greymon line.

>>282073482
>Agumon for example can evolve onto any other dinosaur mon
I never really understood it. I know there are types that can determine where the line goes. I never really looked into it so I am a brainlet on this subject.

>>282073605
Some games like cyber sleuth let you degenerate mons onto something that just happen to be part of evo line. And then you have slide evolutions.....

Cue evolving into something completely unrelated. Honestly, it's better not think too much about it.

>>282057680 (OP)
Monster Hunter never had this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjO_MIVLQcE&ab_channel=MahEmo730

>>282073727
>it's better not think too much about it.
I pretty much realized that and accepted it. I will just stick with "pure" evolutions instead.

>>282060042
more like adults just don't let them anymore, the classical artists were making works in their single digits, and now we don't let kids handle any kind of job or internship even if they're obviously suited to it

>>282073218
Maybe you prefer extra jumbo

>>282057680 (OP)
And better fights.

>>282069988
THAT'S WHAT I WANNA KNOW

>>282073805
Is that a Mu-Pixie hybrid? Holy cursed.

>>282073840
And here I thought it was a dragon but now I see the horns. I thought Mu was one-of-a-kind?

>>282073532
Well for old vpets it depended on stuff like how many care mistakes you made with them, how many times you trained, if you overfed it or not or if you woke it up from sleep multiple times.

>>282073840
Nah, that's Dragon x Pixie

Pixie x Dragon is more mainstream

>>282073903
Moo is a special Dragon, but it is still of the dragon species

>>282073906
Also evo lines became a lot more logical in future vpets, you didn't have anything as outlandish as elecmon becoming whamon in pendulums which were more cohesive in terms of lines having a certain theme once you got a champion partially aided by those devices in general following a certain ecosystem theme.

Jesus...

>>282057680 (OP)
digimon had a better op

>>282074019
Lilim SEXO

>>282073532
>>282073727
Digimon evolve based on how you raise them. Treat them like shit and get a bad digimon, treat them with extra kindness and get an good digimon. Many monster taming franchise love to parrot this a lot but digimon is one of the few that actually sticks to the phase "evolve based on how you raise them" where the only limitation is which digimon makes the cut into the games. When you get down to it, their evolutions have no limitations.

>>282074066
kek

>>282074116
Digimon makes sense as long as you remember that they're data more similar to an avatar or your Twitter photo that some people change every week, but when you try to create a world for them, this coherence is lost. In that case, Pokemon can have weird shit, but they adapt very well to their world, to the point that you can see them as entities with an ecological role.

>Pure Nostalgia
Great thread, guys

And that answers your question OP. Normal humans have an innate revulsion towards furshit.

Monster Rancher had a fairly liked game series but couldn't combine it with the anime for a full frontal attack. Digimon had several popular anime, but the games were all disjointed and more based around the concept of Digimon than having a consistent design. Pokemon had both, and it was able to spread to the cards and merchandise way better as a result. American kids don't have WonderSwans.

>>282057680 (OP)
>Monster rancher had the superior monster designs.
Ehhh, they're fairly generic and has a bad habit of having many palette swap designs

>>282074369
Digimon has more canon furshit than Pokemon and Monster Rancher

This is the official Renamon figure and her fur can be removed.

>>282066982
You know she was spreading her legs like a trooper don't.
The whole image change in 02 with mini skirt, short tight top, midriff, leather high heel boots and pink hair.

I had a friend in junior high who's room looked just like Genki's room. He was also a big PlayStation guy too. The nostalgia hits extra hard.

>>282074534
And don't forget the strawberry mochi, ehh I mean poptarts

>>282074581
yummy poptarts

>>282074581
My friend's mom worked at Pizza Hut so we got all sorts of good stuff. His dad was doing remote work for some tech company back in the 90's so my friend got to play on some sweet rigs every now and again.

>>282074372
>WonderSwans
that's a weird looking game boy, son

>>282057680 (OP)
fuckability of the characters.

>WonderSwans
that's a weird looking game boy, son

>>282074673
that's sweet, just a couple of horror movies missing for the perfect combo

>>282074721
I really want to give Ryo Akiyama's series of games a chance one of these days.

>>282074713
Digimon always had the better girls. Monster Rancher had a few but it was monsters mostly and by monsters I mean different fusions of Pixie class monsters.

>>282074824
It's funny I've never heard of this console mentioned in retro emulation, is it difficult to emulate?

>>282074836
>by monsters I mean different fusions of Pixie class monsters.
Yes, it took them time to realize that variety means more money.

>>282074842
>is it difficult to emulate?
Nah, just use mednaffe.

I think I am going to do a total rewatch of Digimon.

>>282075013
Nice, I thought about doing the same too but got too many 50-100+ episode shows on my backlog already.

>>282073160
For me, it was her and Poisson. God those two were cute as fuck.

Design?
yugioh=digimon>rancher>pokemon

>>282075076
It's been years since I saw the first 4 series. I will go all the way to the most recent titles. Except for the TRI movies, I got those in a while back.

>>282075289
YuGiOh is a whole other beast in which I think the card game dominates.

>>282075474
God, how I hated that OVA series and the girl with glasses.

>>282074713
To be fair Holly was wife material.

>Monster Rancher 4 is a harem game
>Monster Rancher DS reward you with sex (offscreen)
Based.

>>282076403
>(offscreen)
puff puff?

>>282057680 (OP)
Digimon was more relatable to the audiences of that time. People like Sci-Fi and Monsters, it worked to great effect with more mature writing and character development than the counterpart to Pokemon. It explains why it is still successful to this day continuing with Anime and Games. Monster Rancher was a bit generic to audiences which explains why it never achieved the same success.

>>282064305
Pokemon has the Japanese Feel to it even the Movies are remarkable with it's maturity and free nature. Digimon is kind of like that with the anime series in trusting children to understand the themes, even if it's more mature. So I can see why both audiences love those respective series or both.

>>282073111
I do miss the Mysteries in Pokemon and Digimon. Both were really neat and bizarre.

>>282075013
Watch Tamers after Adventurers, don't stop at 02.

>>282057680 (OP)
I always wanted to violently rape mimi when I was younger
I still do, but back then it was one of those characters that really made me act up

>>282075110
At least she really loved her boyfriend unlike Lilim

>>282074116
Not really, it depend on personality of tamer and treatment since they only have 2 roads which are vaccine and virus in all.
>evolve vaccine type, can evolve into vaccine or virus.
>evolve virus type, can evolve into vaccine or virus.
>the friendlier or closer to human the more human like will be.
So personality was well optional but isn't as complicated as some make it seem.
Take for example tailmon, mega evolved into a dragon, and mega evolved into ophanimon and don't know the succubus mega evolve but also evolved like that with the difference being it was closer to tamer with ophanimon and succubus.

>>282076356
this

>>282072598
9/11 was genuinely referenced in an audio drama: https://digitalscratch.pmsinfirm.org/457#06

Also she has the best parents.

Adventure is good kodomo and the Hosoda movies elevate them to next level, and Tamers is right up there.

>>282057680 (OP)
>Monster rancher had the superior monster designs.
Nah, a lot of digimon designs were cool and unusual. You had shit like Nanimon who was a reject tamagotchi that was a drunk old man shaped like a sphere.

>>282058062
nope. I watched digimons in 2004.

>>282072376
Obviously Monster Rancher.

>>282057680 (OP)
Maybe making 3 generic monsters with 500 variations isn't very appealing to kids
https://legendcup.com/faqmr2monsterdata.php

>>282082200
That's one thing I hated about digimon aswell. For some reason there's just palette swaps of some digimon for no apparent reason.

>>282076403
Context?

>>282074116
I remember as a kid that if you spoiled them too much in the games you'd get a numemon...

The name Monster Rancher is already uncool. Digimon plays off the Pokemon craze.
Monster Rancher looks so mid 90s, while Digimon looked modern at the time.

>>282082548
Digimon and Pokemon came out at around the same time.

>>282082548
Digimon came out in 1997

>>282082677
Nah dog, the anime came out in 1999, during the pokemon craze.
>>282082704
I know, and the monsters look cool. Monster Rancher freaks look like youkai.

I've never reached the end of Monster Rancher, did they finally found the phoenix and saved the world?

>>282082804
The Digital Monster Ver 1. came out in 1997 V-Tamer came out in 1998

>>282082811
They did, twice

What about the remake?

>>282085301
COVID fucked its production to high hell. A goddamn tragedy if there ever was one. Only watch it if you've already watched the original series and want to see a few well animated sequences.

>>282085301
There was no remake.

I wonder how many people got some weird fetishes from watching digimon back in the day.

>>282085301
The remake was boring
Cool animation tho but thats about it

>>282076905
I really loved shit like Unown, the ruins of Alph, the Regis and whatnot and I feel like it' been missing from gen 5 onwards, all the lore is in service of the main story and you don't get cool mysterious ruins without an explaination. I guess they had nowhere to go after Arceus in gen 4.
Maybe they need a new angle, like pokemon Atlantis or aliens and government conspiracies

>>282066982
I love Mimi in the original series but couldn't get into all the different designs they gave her in later series. I can give 02 some credit since her face and body is still the same, but the hair wasnt my thing, and god I fucking hate how she looks in Tri and such