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Why is Oshi no Ko the only major work that criticizes isekai genre?

I'm imagining an example where some ugly guy like Rudeus is isekai'd, then he marries someone whose features complement his own, say her good eyeshape balances out his bad one, his prominent cheekbones balance out her bad ones, etc, so they can produce a beautiful child. Then, once the child is born, he kills his wife and forces his own memories onto the child, tricking the child into believing they were the one originally isekai’d. The narrative would follow the child’s struggle to uncover this truth. There needs to be more attention brought to how selfish and shallow the genre is.

We had a work that critcized isekai but it instantly got brutally murdered and cut down by the industry because isekai authors are thinskinned and can't handle ant kind of criticism along with their fans.

>>282072024
>We had a work that critcized isekai
which?

>>282072038
Cheat Slayer

>>282071774 (OP)
>Why is Oshi no Ko the only major work that criticizes isekai genre?
it's not

>>282072163
Jobless guy threw a hissy fit about it.

>>282073209
rifujin?

>>282072024
>>282072163
It didn't criticize anything, it just gave generic rapist psychos with power complex villains the skins of popular isekai MCs that have anime adaptations.

And what exactly did it supposedly "legitimately criticize" about Aletta? Girl just works as a waitress in the original yet somehow will be shit on by this "parody"? Oh right, Aletta committed the unforgivable offense of selling more Blu-Ray discs than Cheat Slayer author's previous work Kakegurui.
>B-But surely that is just a funny coincidence and the real reason is something something ugh, isekai, ugh, you know... Aletta is just bad because... she just is, OK? She... just deserves it all because... SHE JUST DOES!!!

Also the author is a retard for publishing Cheat Slayer at the company whose grandparent company owns publishing rights of 7/10 of the works that Cheat Slayer "parodies" without telling any of the higher-ups nor the original authors. What the fuck did he expect?

>>282071774 (OP)
Oshi no Ko has nothing to do with isekai wtf are you on about?

>>282073386
Read the chapter it literally outright directly verbally critizies the notion that lazy meets and hikkis get OP powers in isekai. That sounds like as direct a criticism as possible to me. As for your complaint about the character that we didn't get to see shit about in the story, maybe it shouldn't have died and then we could have seen what her deal was.

>>282071774 (OP)
She and her brother weren't Goro and Sarina's reincarnation.
They are just get Fake memory and thought they're Goro and Sarina's reincarnation as it.

>>282071774 (OP)
My wife's daughter is so cute, just like her

>>282073467
>it literally outright directly verbally critizies the notion that lazy meets and hikkis get OP powers in isekai
Which, surprise, the character supposedly being parodied as a "loser hikki NEET" (MC of Kenja no Mago) was... actually not a loser hikki NEET but a functioning working adult man before reincarnation. It's because of this that people wrongly concluded that it's about Rudeus from MT, but the name didn't fit and MT didn't have an anime yet and Cheat Slayer was otherwise only targeting stuff with anime that already aired. So with that in mind, no one among the supposedly parodied isekai MCs was even a "loser hikki NEET" as far as I can recall. Subaru was maybe in danger of becoming one soon but wasn't yet pre-isekai and instead of taking Kazuma who actually was one, he picked a color-palette swap of Aqua to represent Konosuba instead.

That's just retarded and dumb. It indicates that the author didn't even watch the first few episodes of any of the tertiary rushed anime adaptations he is supposedly criticizing.

>>282073677
They're not literally the same characters, are you retarded?

>>282073736
>Look at these parodies of popular isekai characters! They are all undeserving losers whose true self is that of a loser hikki NEET which is... NONE of them
Wow, what a great parody! Criticize something that applies to none of them, not even one actually legitimate example presented.
So what's the point of using their skins when the whining doesn't even apply to ANY of them?
It's almost like loser hikki NEET MCs are not nearly as popular as the GENTLEMEN would have you believe? How could that possibly be?!

>>282073736
>They're not literally the same characters
They're literally same characters but with amplified flaws and cartoonish evil motives, exists to slutshaming the successful authors out of spite.

>>282071774 (OP)
i dont understand any aspect of your idea
like how it would actually work
and how it actually says anything useful, like the themes and message and stuff

>>282071774 (OP)
>There needs to be more attention brought to how selfish and shallow the genre is.
the fuck are you talking about?

>>282071774 (OP)
>Oshi no Ko the only major work that criticizes isekai
And what a major piece of shit it was

Wasn't there some faggot on this board who wanted to do this idea?

>>282074914
I mean it's just a vague idea, it's left to the author to flesh it out but you could make it a "previous generations ruined the world with their selfishness" kind of grand metaphor and a Lain kind of thing with how the child finds and constructs his own selfhood
>>282075002
I'm talking about how Rudeus and Subaru are bottom of the barrel pieces of shit
>>282075335
I'm posting about memory imposition isekai for the first time so probably not me but it's cool that someone else thought of it before

>>282076578
>Subaru
are you still mad about him rejecting your favorite waifu? because that's the only remotely shitty thing he has done, other than be a retard.

>>282071774 (OP)
I have no clue what the fuck you just said and think you're either a schizo or very high
thanks for posting best girl though

>Oshi no Ko
>isekai
Bait thread.

>>282071774 (OP)
>There needs to be more attention brought to how selfish and shallow the genre is.
Why?
No one pretends it isn't shameless power fantasy. It's not like manga or 99.99% of japanese media isn't the most low-brow paint-by-numbers shit already anyway. I like anime but how the fuck people became convinced it was 'deep' or 'smart' is pure insanity, it's even more commercial and shallow than western media.

>>282071774 (OP)
>Why is Oshi no Ko the only major work that criticizes isekai genre?
It didn't do that

>>282073209
The author should have told him to fuck off and called him out for being a massive pedo.

>drawing parodies of other people's character is bad
>but making your main character a pedophile that films his underage elementary school age niece with hidden cameras in the bath tub is completely redeemable he's just misunderstood give him a second chance
>ope he's being an incestuous pervert instantly with his new mom and has an obsession with his baby sister and ripped the panties off his new 4 year old friend and lost his virginity to his loli cousin and takes advantage of his teen mentor and stole her panties
>it's okay because his body is a kid body too now

Japan needs nuked again

>>282077225
If a nuke could fix it, I'd totally agree

>>282071774 (OP)
Did S2 of the Oshi no Ko anime add any more unnecessary additional foot scenes that the manga didn't have? I haven't watched it yet.

No I don't care about what OP's gay opinions are.

>>282076857
>thanks for posting best girl though
literally worst girl. i have never seen a story like oshi no ko where the story itself literally tells you which girl to root for

>>282077363
>the story itself literally tells you which girl to root for
Mem?

>>282077540
one of them is a whore despite her being supposed to be loyal osananajimi

the other is a bad family member, hates her brother for not pursuing family BS, a good family member would have tried to take on all of the burden alone like aqua did

the choice is obvious, anon, come on

>>282077258
I'm not a footfag but the manga is super boring when it comes to composition and paneling so I understand why they added some spice

>>282077637
you must be talking about Mem. I can't think of anyone else (assuming you're not talking about that one whore who loves ojisans)

>>282072038
Uncle from another world, and Jahy will not be defeated mock the genre in their own way. Isekai is not a problem, bad writing is. Isekai is lazy because it gives a world and a reason without little backstory needed, but it does not mean it can not be good. It is the perfect vector for comedy as KonoSuba and the above mentioned.

>>282077851
wow, i read the manga and i don't remember this. i thought all that shitposting was by furious kana fans.

i'm now a part of memgang

>>282077941
Akanechads... why is our girl like this?

>>282071774 (OP)
stupid anime only EOP

>>282078000
i read all of it retard
besides, i'm pretty sure i understand the subtext of the story better than you do, so my EOPness doesn't mean anything in this context

>>282071774 (OP)
OnK is not even isekai, it's tensei, they're just reincarnated one generation forward in that exact same world.

>>282078046
i didn't say it was isekai, i said it criticized it

>>282078051
barely, and Aka got bored with his own story and crashed it into the wall anyway. I bet he wanted to write an incest story but his editors persuaded him otherwise, and then he got one of the best hentai artists to do his art for him.

>>282077225
What anime is this?

>>282078019
you didn't read a single bit of it if you think it was talking about isekai

>>282073677
I thought it was the Redo of Healer guy at first

>>282078489
yeah right, without applying the isekai perspective, i don't even know how you could interpret how the reincarnated guy dies earlier than his previous self

>>282078526
you seem like a truly retarded subhuman so yeah no wonder you can't think of anything

>>282078536
t. guy who never substantiated anything he talked about and who is likely an isekai fan

>>282078548
t. guy who doesn't understand what any isekai is from his first faggy OP and couldn't name any if his life depended on it

>>282078615
see >>282078051

>>282073467
Half of the isekaied guys are actually working adults who just happened to get ran over by a truck (or in one case pushed into an oncoming train).

>>282071774 (OP)
Ixion DT did it first, way back before isekai took over the medium. It was ahead of its time

>>282071774 (OP)
>the only-ack

>>282073476
That's how Aka tried to spin it in the latter chapters, because he couldn't write the reincarnation plot, but all the way before that it was presented as an actual reincarnation.

>>282073519
Mengo's artstyle is beautiful, shame it was wasted on Hacka's writing.

>>282073476
>>282080428
Didn't Crow Girl originally state that Aqua and Ruby were born soulless before the memory implant manipulation bullshit?

>>282071774 (OP)
Kill yourself.

>>282071774 (OP)
>then he marries someone whose features complement his own, say her good eyeshape balances out his bad one, his prominent cheekbones balance out her bad ones, etc
Is this one of those east asian cultural retardations like dating by blood type and zodiacs and shit?

>>282080621
It's more scientific.

>>282072163
The author repackaged it into Isekai Serial Killer. He even used a pseudonym.

this feels like a bot thread.
what does oshi no ko even have to do with isekai?