← Home ← Back to /a/

Thread 282073787

103 posts 76 images /a/
Anonymous No.282073787 >>282079420 >>282084707 >>282088993 >>282096420 >>282098267 >>282098707 >>282098879 >>282100272 >>282101222 >>282104720
Growing up is realizing Pazu and Sheeta is the prime example that all relationships and romances should strive to be
Anonymous No.282074600 >>282075755 >>282076798 >>282083824 >>282087022 >>282089387 >>282097064 >>282098267 >>282098879 >>282099109
It's discount Conan and Lana that's nowhere near the same intensity
But good taste nonetheless, you should watch Future Boy Conan
Anonymous No.282075755 >>282078457 >>282078628 >>282079714 >>282085750 >>282098267
>>282074600
>Future Boy Conan
I really am just a secondary if I only discovered this just now. Honestly picking it up just to add fuel to my pyre for the Castle in the Sky duo.

The lack of explicit romantic gestures, bodily or communicative cues that would signify otherwise, and initial interest from either party is what makes Laputa compelling for me.
There're no preconceived notions of love or infatuation that gives rise to ulterior motives from either of the two.
They're just two orphans making the most of every new day. They got one another- figuratively and literally.
The audience gets to watch their friendship unfold and evolve into something more intimate in real-time with every scene.
You can feel the trust, selflessness, and dedication between the two develop as they run into one situation after the next.
It's in every sense of the expression "pure love"- as cheesy and clichΓ© as it sounds.
It's natural, believable, and simply sweet. Something anyone should aspire to have with another person.
You really do just know by the end that they end up together. Not because it wouldn't make sense from a rational or emotional standpoint or that any other outcome would be unacceptable, but because it's the intuition of the human heart telling you that's what they both decided in this story they wrote together.
7 No.282076798
>>282074600
Miyazaki fans don't ever have any
good taste.
Anonymous No.282077971 >>282087366 >>282099193 >>282104720 >>282106545
Tell me they got married and had lots of babies.
Anonymous No.282078389
>Farm girl with no family
>Freelance engineer with no family and zero capacity to keep his hands off her for more than five minutes
There’s no way this didn’t end in teenage pregnancy and copious scolding from that village mom
Anonymous No.282078457
>>282075755
You’re right anon don’t let any of these degenerate gooners cause you to doubt.
Anonymous No.282078628
>>282075755
>The lack of explicit romantic gestures, bodily or communicative cues

Bruh, they literally couldn't keep their hands for more than two minutes the entire movie. The only reason either of them kept their pants was because they kept being interrupted before it could get any further. But you just know once they were all alone to themselves that Sheeta was pregnant within an hour of the movie ending
Anonymous No.282079420 >>282079714
>>282073787 (OP)

Funny how Pazu is the dark-skinned one given that he's a miner who spends all of his time underground while Sheeta's a farmgirl who spends most of her time outside.

Also why do abandoned quarries seem so spooky? Pazu and Sheeta spent a full day stumbling around in one and I'm terrified to even go near the entrance of my local one that's a fully functional museum.
Anonymous No.282079714 >>282079766
>>282075755
It's how normal human romantic rlationships should occur, you know, if we weren't sold metropolitan promiscuity as a sign of personnal success. It used to be that you were friends with some girl from your village and everyone knew, from before you were ten, that at 16 you'd be on your second or third kid.
>>282079420
Pazu works as a miner, quarries are familiar.
Anonymous No.282079766 >>282079862
>>282079714

Actually it wasn't all that uncommon even going back to the medieval period for peasant men and women to marry in their 20s.
Anonymous No.282079862 >>282095400
>>282079766
I was talking about post-ish industrial revolution farmlife, but mostly out of anecdotal personal empyrical data. Like, everyone I know at my age group has grandparents that were married as teens.
Anonymous No.282079877 >>282081333
I just want an isekai scenario where Pazu and Sheeta wind up stuck in the American Civil War.
Anonymous No.282081333 >>282082334
>>282079877
why
Anonymous No.282082334
>>282081333

Why not?
Anonymous No.282082374
for me its paizu and ri
Anonymous No.282082844
>Farm girl with no family
>Freelance engineer with no family and zero capacity to keep his hands off her for more than five minutes
There’s no way this didn’t end in teenage pregnancy and copious scolding from that village mom
Anonymous No.282082887 >>282083098 >>282090387
Fuck this thread for making me cry
I'm so lonely
Anonymous No.282083098
>>282082887

How do you think Pazu felt before Sheeta landed in his arms?
Anonymous No.282083824
>>282074600

I mean, Laputa literally started out as a Future Boy Conan draft that got recycled
Anonymous No.282084707
>>282073787 (OP)
>Growing up is realizing Pazu and Sheeta is the prime example that all relationships and romances should strive to be
>movie didn't end in pregnancy
Anonymous No.282085750
>>282075755
>The lack of explicit romantic gestures, bodily or communicative cues that would signify otherwise, and initial interest from either party is what makes Laputa compelling for me.

100% they started plapping after flying off into the sunset
Anonymous No.282087022
>>282074600
>It's discount Conan and Lana that's nowhere near the same intensity

Future Boy Conan is a TV show so of course there would be more character development than a movie
Anonymous No.282087366
>>282077971

based
Anonymous No.282088993 >>282093923
>>282073787 (OP)

What do you guys think happened to them afterward?
Anonymous No.282089387
>>282074600
>you should watch Future Boy Conan

this
Anonymous No.282090387 >>282091157 >>282091175
>>282082887

Come here
Anonymous No.282091157 >>282093273
>>282090387
eww gay
Anonymous No.282091175 >>282091434
>>282090387
Thank you anon
Anonymous No.282091434
>>282091175

You're welcome
Anonymous No.282093273
>>282091157

no u
Anonymous No.282093854 >>282094124 >>282095279
For all the pregnancy and plapposters: it's inevitable and practically all but guaranteed, but, just like how the movie depicted their growth as friends into something more, I like to think they took their sweet time enjoying some peace and quiet, getting to know more about each other, and maybe even traveling around to see the world before settling down.
They're still naive to an extent, and there's a while until they hit the age where their hormones really start kicking in. As much as it pains me knowing I'll never get to experience or have what they have, it's fun to think about the two, their relationship, and how it's very much the essence of pure, true love.
Anonymous No.282093923 >>282094127 >>282094298 >>282095279
>>282088993
Probably nothing worthy of a sequel, if I'm being honest. The "government" is left with a bunch of mysteries and whatever scraps of information Muska somehow let slip before he made his moves, and the Dola gang are now friends who're going on to other piracy-related adventures. Unless something is unearthed about the sky civilizations that were a part of the Laputian empire, there's just nothing related.

That leaves Pazu following Sheeta back to Gondoa, and... well, the rest of that depends on them growing into teenagerdom and beyond and the choices they make.
Anonymous No.282094124
>>282093854
>it's inevitable and practically all but guaranteed
Anonymous No.282094127 >>282095163
>>282093923
Maybe this is the secret of a long and enduring following/community/fandom:
>make a movie
>don't include an epilogue sequence
>people who liked it discuss it and draw fanart for years to come
Anonymous No.282094298
>>282093923
>Probably nothing worthy of a sequel, if I'm being honest. The "government" is left with a bunch of mysteries and whatever scraps of information Muska somehow let slip before he made his moves, and the Dola gang are now friends who're going on to other piracy-related adventures. Unless something is unearthed about the sky civilizations that were a part of the Laputian empire, there's just nothing related.

>the government invades Gondoa and sends more of their goons to find Sheeta and Pazu
Anonymous No.282095163 >>282097593
>>282094127
>don't include an epilogue sequence

BUT I WANT TO KNOW MORE
Anonymous No.282095279 >>282104614
>>282093854
>For all the pregnancy and plapposters: it's inevitable and practically all but guaranteed

Good

>I like to think they took their sweet time enjoying some peace and quiet, getting to know more about each other, and maybe even traveling around to see the world before settling down.

So about nine months

>>282093923
>That leaves Pazu following Sheeta back to Gondoa, and... well, the rest of that depends on them growing into teenagerdom and beyond and the choices they make.

Oh I know what they're gonna make
Anonymous No.282095400
>>282079862
>grandparents
>"traditional"
Same women who fed their children Nestle instead of breast milk and dropped them off at daycare all day lmao
Anonymous No.282096420 >>282097467
>>282073787 (OP)

Counterargument:
Anonymous No.282097064
>>282074600

fpbp
Anonymous No.282097467 >>282097630
>>282096420
I don't even know who these are. Not to say that in a disinterested, condescending way, but please explain in detail why you think their relationship is more ideal than Pazu and Sheeta's.
Anonymous No.282097593 >>282098176 >>282100465
>>282095163
That's why you want to know and why you've probably felt this way ever since you watched the movie.
Silence is golden. Less is more.
Just be happy Miyazaki isn't the type who throws in depressing shit for shock value or to get back at fans the same way other petty authors.
Pazu and Sheeta are 100% living a quiet, happy, maybe even adventurous life, all at their own pace. They've deserved it. The world knows, Miyazaki knows, you and I both know.
Anonymous No.282097630
>>282097467

Umi and Shun from Up on Poppy Hill
Anonymous No.282098176
>>282097593
>Pazu and Sheeta are 100% living a quiet, happy, maybe even adventurous life, all at their own pace. They've deserved it. The world knows, Miyazaki knows, you and I both know.

"Their glider crashed into rocks and dashed them to pieces two minutes later. Also Dola raped all of her sons, or something. *continues munching on cheeseburger*"

t.
Anonymous No.282098267 >>282098282 >>282098634 >>282098688 >>282098877
>>282073787 (OP)
>>282074600
>>282075755
Anime ruined my idea of love and relationships. I genuinely thought it worked like how it did in these old movies and shows and nobody told me otherwise. Anything else just felt wrong and made me uncomfortable. Now I'm a 30 year old virgin loser. I have no prospects. I can't even say where I went wrong. I don't feel like I could do anything differently. Man I'm lonely.
Anonymous No.282098282 >>282098411
>>282098267
you can find a disney girl in the same situation
Anonymous No.282098411
>>282098282
Yeah you're probably right. Kids shouldn't be allowed to watch tv or read books.
Anonymous No.282098634 >>282098724
>>282098267

Dude get a whore
Anonymous No.282098688 >>282098724 >>282101674
>>282098267
I know where you're coming from. While Pazu and Sheeta's relationship is a very, VERY idealized fictitious depiction of a non-explicit, more-or-less-only-implied romance, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect something like their dynamic to exist irl under different circumstances.
>boy meets girl
>they become friends without any preliminary undertones of romance
>undergo a series of hardships together that put their relationship to the test
>emerge out of the whole ordeal sharing a mutual desire to become more than just friends
>voila, young lova a la fresca
Even if you frame it under a more realistic context, it could be something as simple as becoming friends with a girl from school, growing up with her, living life side-by-side through all the good and bad, and falling in love. It's not a matter of fiction misleading you and misconstruing the dynamics of how interpersonal relationships- modern day love and dating is just fucked up. Just visit /adv/ if you want to catch a glimpse of how bad it is if real life wasn't bad enough.
Anonymous No.282098707 >>282098840 >>282098906 >>282099366 >>282101757 >>282102137
>>282073787 (OP)
Yeah, i was rewatching it not a long time ago and was surprised how mature their relationships are. None of your typical cutesy anime bullshit, they both act like small adults who know exactly what they want from life and have ever-growing respect and adoration for each other which turns into an insanely strong bond.
The pirate couple feels like a preview of how these two will be 60 years later.
Anonymous No.282098724 >>282098798
>>282098634
Never
>>282098688
Yeah maybe. I don't know. I
Anonymous No.282098798 >>282098812
>>282098724

Bro just because you're a loser unable to get girlfriends doesn't mean you have to stay a sexless loser forever. Live a little. Have some fun with a hooker here and there.
Anonymous No.282098812
>>282098798
I'm not going to do that
Anonymous No.282098840 >>282098867
>>282098707

What the fuck happened to Dola? She lives a pretty active lifestyle being a pirate and all so even having five sons or whatever shouldn't have fucked up her body like that.
Anonymous No.282098867 >>282099064
>>282098840
She's probably like 80 years old if not more judging by her face and body.
Anonymous No.282098877 >>282099023
>>282098267
I'm 23 and I'm in the same route. Younger, yes, but just as lost. I feel so lonely and I don't even know where to complain cause R9K sucks. I feel I have so much love to give
Anonymous No.282098879
>>282074600
>>282073787 (OP)
They stole their relationship dynamic and used it as the model for steven and connie in steven universe.
Anonymous No.282098906
>>282098707
>The pirate couple feels like a preview of how these two will be 60 years later.

Fat, grumpy, and heavily armed.
Anonymous No.282099023
>>282098877
Yeah I don't know. Probably shouldn't whine here. There's probably a reason why every place tangentially related to this topic is a weird hellhole. Focusing on it even though it sucks probably isn't good. It doesn't seem like one of things you can control. I'm not going to lie and say it gets better but screaming about it is just off-putting and endears you to no one. I don't like when people try to put some sappy thing about how you grow past it and learn to be happy alone. Its an open wound thats never going to close thats the truth. But also don't whine about it. Nobody wants to be around unpleasant people no matter how valid or invalid their troubles are. You just have to shoulder on. Not in some lame internet masculine way or some performance. You just keep quiet. You have an open cut that will never heal. Some days there's more salt in your open wound. Sometimes you're so use to it you don't really notice. That's just how it is. You cope and try to be fine and not trouble others. But everyone has their shit. Everyone's got their scars and cuts and mutilation. This isn't even the worse thing that can happen to you. In fact it's defined by a lack of a certain something happening. So in a way it's a blessing. It could be worse. It is what it is. Just try to be a nice person.
Anonymous No.282099064 >>282099229
>>282098867

Her sons are all 25-35 so she's more in the 60-70 range, even younger if she started having kids in her early 20s or teens (which would explain how she fell into a life of piracy).
Anonymous No.282099109 >>282099250
>>282074600
>Conan
>laputa
>nadia

Is there more with this archetype
Why was it so common
Anonymous No.282099193 >>282099540 >>282099794 >>282099956
>>282077971
Sheeta definitely gave him enough babies to work a mechanic shop. The problem was having their first kid at the tender age of however old they were right after the credits rolled
Anonymous No.282099229 >>282099540 >>282099794
>>282099064
Assuming she gave birth to any of them.
Anonymous No.282099250
>>282099109
few realize this but fullmetal alchemist
i mean definitely descended from nadia maybe a bit too far removed from the other two
Anonymous No.282099366 >>282100056
>>282098707
Dola aged like warm raspberries but Motro as a young lad absolutely WON
Anonymous No.282099540
>>282099193
>Sheeta definitely gave him enough babies to work a mechanic shop. The problem was having their first kid at the tender age of however old they were right after the credits rolled

Based

>>282099229
>Assuming she gave birth to any of them.

She calls them her sons and they call her mommy so I'm assuming that she gave birth to at least some of them.
Anonymous No.282099794
>>282099193
>Sheeta definitely gave him enough babies to work a mechanic shop. The problem was having their first kid at the tender age of however old they were right after the credits rolled

Based, she looked like she was in the heat the entire second half of the movie so you just know she was ready to bear an entire litter.

>>282099229
>Assuming she gave birth to any of them.

She calls them her sons and they call her mommy so I'm assuming that she gave birth to at least some of them.
Anonymous No.282099876 >>282099995
>aged bad
The fuck do you people think 80 year olds who spent their entire life working in the tropical sun to look like
Anonymous No.282099956 >>282099992
>>282099193
>Sheeta definitely gave him enough babies to work a mechanic shop. The problem was having their first kid at the tender age of however old they were right after the credits rolled

Should be the canon outcome of every Ghibli movie
Anonymous No.282099992 >>282100095
>>282099956
are you just trying to ruin the thread on purpose for no reason or are you actually this tonedeaf to context
Anonymous No.282099995
>>282099876
Florida man, maybe?
Anonymous No.282100056
>>282099366

To be fair, he probably didn't age any better.
Anonymous No.282100071
>>282099999
>>282100000
Anonymous No.282100095 >>282100153
>>282099992

Why are you mad?
Anonymous No.282100153 >>282100318
>>282100095
im not its a genuine question
Anonymous No.282100272 >>282102235
>>282073787 (OP)
>no extended marriage+sex cut
Shame. I'll have to give this one to Yamato then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Geo8KRqCRgQ
Anonymous No.282100318 >>282100399
>>282100153

I just like the idea of Ghibli girls being happy and pregnant
Anonymous No.282100399 >>282100534
>>282100318
That only lasts for so many months, then what happens?
Anonymous No.282100465
>>282097593
>Pazu and Sheeta are 100% living a quiet, happy, maybe even adventurous life, all at their own pace. They've deserved it. The world knows, Miyazaki knows, you and I both know.

My personal headcanon is that they flew off into the sunset, then a storm, and wound up in a mysterious place far away for yet more adventures, like Pennsylvania in the summer of 1863.
Anonymous No.282100534 >>282105847
>>282100399

They raise their child, have more, and are happy.
Anonymous No.282101222 >>282105888
>>282073787 (OP)

Adulthood is realizing Sophie and Howl are better
Anonymous No.282101674
>>282098688
>becoming friends with a girl from school, growing up with her
We're all fucked aren't we?
Anonymous No.282101757 >>282102591
>>282098707
>The pirate couple feels like a preview of how these two will be 60 years later.

It's been awhile but I think Motro literally says something to that effect as they're playing chess and uses it to win the game against Dola
Anonymous No.282102137
>>282098707
>The pirate couple feels like a preview of how these two will be 60 years later.

My impression was that neither Pazu or Sheeta was as predisposed to violence as Dola, who perhaps yearning for her own lost innocence goes out of her way to try and protect them from experiences that would leave them hardened to it.
Anonymous No.282102235
>>282100272

based
Anonymous No.282102343 >>282102797 >>282103151 >>282103869
What's with this odd obsession with having babies itt?
Anonymous No.282102591 >>282103179
>>282101757
Probably a different translation than you saw but;

-You've changed, chasing the likes of Goliath...but it's pointless.
-It's Laputan treasure I'm after.
-*laughs* They're certainly nice kids...
-Get to the point, you old goat.
-They're too upright and honest to ever respect you.
-What's that!
-No, I mean.... Check...
Anonymous No.282102797
>>282102343
>What's with this odd obsession with the most basic of biological impulses itt?
Anonymous No.282103151
>>282102343
Some people feel threatened by a depiction of a pure non-sexual relationship so they have to do their best to subvert and make it as sexual as possible.
Anonymous No.282103179 >>282104660
>>282102591

Yeah the version I watched it was

>What's come over you, my dear? It's not like you to challenge a ship like Goliath. You know, the odds are against you.
>I'm after treasure. That's all.
>I must admit, those kids are cute!
>Whaddaya mean by that, ya old fool?
>Nothing, but that little girl *does* remind me of you not so long ago!
>Who asked ya?
>Nobody. Oh, look! Checkmate!

Gotta love how despite Dola clearly being the dominant one in that relationship, Motro is still able to get under her skin just enough to outsmart her
Anonymous No.282103869
>>282102343

What do you think horny teenagers without so much as an hour’s worth of sex ed are going to wind up doing?
Anonymous No.282104614
>>282095279

Boobies
Anonymous No.282104660 >>282104692
>>282103179
Ah, that'd be the mainstream dub.
Anonymous No.282104692 >>282104897
>>282104660

Is it not accurate to the original?
Anonymous No.282104720
>>282073787 (OP)
>>282077971
>Remember at the end it shows them flying back to the village and living together
>Re watch
>Doesn't happen at all and ends on the tree
Now I'm trying to figure out what the heck my memory is combining this with.
Anonymous No.282104897 >>282105216 >>282105642
>>282104692
Compared to what I posted? Hard to tell. I can't verify as I lack the translation skills, but what I posted comes from the version that is part of the actual Ghibli collection, so I tend to think of that as the accurate translation.
Anonymous No.282105216
>>282104897

ngl I always preferred the 2003 version because I thought Anna Paquin was very cute as Sheeta
Anonymous No.282105642
>>282104897

ngl I always preferred the 2003 version because I thought Anna Paquin was very cute as Sheeta. Plus having random miners being voiced by Bender's actor was pretty funny.
Anonymous No.282105847 >>282106025
>>282100534
This one’s kind of doubtful. Ashitaka would have to hitchhike all the way into the forest just to meet his β€œwife” and I feel like the pain of childbirth would’ve made San sperg out at mankind again. Easy bet Taka just went back to his village qt after a couple months of San’s dog autism
Anonymous No.282105888
>>282101222
Girls acting like Sophie is why date rape still happens. She doesn’t know a bloody thing about Howl by the end of the movie and his romancing her is just so you don’t think he’s actually some bird creature
Anonymous No.282106025
>>282105847
>Ashitaka would have to hitchhike all the way into the forest just to meet his β€œwife”

He has a horse (or something vaguely resembling one) you know

>I feel like the pain of childbirth would’ve made San sperg out at mankind again.
>he doesn't know that newborn babies unironically release hormones that make the mother forget all about the pain
Anonymous No.282106545
>>282077971

they got married and had lots of babies