Thread 282076057

In this house Rocks is a HERO. End of story.

>>282076057 (OP)
I mean Oda is very obviously portraying him as a hero you'd have to be a special kind of retarded to still think he isn't at this point. Worst thing he's done so far is give kid Loki a paper scratch.

AIfag, I request Vivi dressed up like Shantae

>>282076089
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>>282076057 (OP)
/thread

>>282076057 (OP)
Imu will pull Rocks through the Abyss back to the flower chamber and then bucc break him

In this house Harold is a RAT. End of story.

>>282076089
Think ahead a little bit. If Rocks is a hero, that means Garp is basically a villain. Which he know he isn't, so Rocks is going to do some nasty shit before this flashback is over.

>>282076305
Lmao

>>282076057 (OP)
No need to be aggresive about it, Loki. We all agree.

>>282076305
>that means Garp is basically a villain. Which he know he isn't
LMAOOOOO

>>282076057 (OP)
>hey look everyone is actually le heckin wholesome chungus
I hate this so much.

>>282076305
>Garp the Hero! Well, I knew him back when he was called Garp the Fist, and you know how he got that name? The guy was never satisfied after a fight until his fists were drenched in blood, he might not like us too much but he sure does enjoys himself, haha!

>>282076420
For me, it's the Shakky dickriding. I'm surprised I'm didn't go ga-ga for her!

>>282076057 (OP)
Stussy. Sex.

>>282076420
Kengan omega induced brain damage should be a scientifically recognized mental illness at this point.

>>282076272
I wonder if the Numbers used genetic information from Harald to make the Numbers at Punk Hazard, wouldn't he be the only living ancient giant they'd have access to for a good century?

>>282076305
>that means Garp is basically a villain.
Yeah when you have Dragon and Saul actually defecting from the Marines because they were disgusted by the orders they were given, Garp looks bad.

>>282076448 (me)
Meant imu

>>282076305
>If Rocks is a hero, that means Garp is basically a villain.
It doesn't. The enemy of a good guy can also be a good guy. Good guys fight each other all the time over all kinds of things, as do bad guys.

>>282076420
So is there anyone actually evil in this series? Surely Imu will be purely evil and won't get a whole flashback explaining he's actually a nice guy right?

>>282076455
She’s like Carrot, but actually attractive.

>>282076517
Anon, Rocks is dead. They didn't have a "we have to talk it out the only way men can: with our fists" fight that good guys do before teaming up to fight the real villain. One of them is a bad hombre.

>>282076057 (OP)
why do you keep making early threads, you fucking retarded spic

>>282076542
No worries about that happening because Imu will get a whole flashback explaining SHE's a nice GAL

>>282076550
They even wear the same hat. Carrot is cute, Stussy is sexo.

HOW DARE YOU!

We hate Koby here.

>>282076305
True, Rocks is guilty of the GREATEST sins imaginable, which are stealing the Celestial Dragons’ lobsters AND freeing the slaves. The poor Tenryuubito had to go back home famished (had to eat 4 meals instead of the usual 5) and exhausted with bruised feet (no slave to ride on their back) on that sad day.

Rate my oc:

>once the most handsome man in the world
>a wielder of the ope ope made him immortal
>was captured by the Celestial Dragons and won in a hunting competition
>outlived his wife, became an honorary CD and eventually a Holy Knight
>has to wear a mask to keep women and men from fainting or dying of nosebleeds

Remember, Oda approved of the special anime episodes for Film Red, which he wrote, which is also the newest version of Romance Dawn.

Rocks proclaiming he wants to be king of the world is not heroic. I doubt Oda would protray that as a positive.

>>282077002
Does he have a big upper body and little legs?

If Blackbeard is the final antagonist for Luffy, what'll happen to Imu before Luffy confronts BB?

>>282077123
Normal proportions but very tall

>>282077150
this is gonna floor you. there can be 2 major antagonists that can be dealt with separately

>>282076106
kill yourself /tv/cuck

>>282076542
99% of the celestial dragons are cartoonishly evil, if that's what you're looking for in your badguys.

My very old OC I made back when I was 14-15:

>18 year old girl from Alabasta
>mythical zoan, horse-horse fruit, model: Buraq
>horse form has a black coat with a white diamond and black-white gradient mane and tail with electric blue eyes
>shy and wimpy in human form, brave and confident in hybrid and animal form
>usually stays hybrid form, just like Chopper
>fights bare-handed and uses electric elemental attacks

my other OC:
>20 year old guy, who’s the horse girl’s brother
>fights like a knight and wields a curved greatsword
>has a very big backpack that “ate” the snake-snake fruit model: python

I wish I didn’t throw away my old sketchbook

>>282077159
Come back when he's at least this cool

>>282076305
>garp the dog of the government doing their dirty work is totally not the villain guise
retard level of media literacy

>>282077169
There is nothing that Oda could write for Imu that would make him a more compelling antagonist than BB. He would be retarded if he gave Imu a bigger or equal role to BB in the ending of the story.

so, is teach's whole deal a result of him being a davy, or what? Unless whitebeard adopts him later or something inexplicable happens to him in the next few chapters, I don't see any other reason why he'd be able to stomach multiple devil fruits and not need to sleep

also, god valley doesn't seem particularly snowy

>>282077181
forgot to mention that the girl was my height (5’4”) but the brother was around Zoro’s height (6’0”).

>>282077084
What if Davy D Jones was the king of the Ancient Kingdom? Ruling the world might be Xebec's birthright. Marie Geoise was promised to his people.
>>282077150
Defeated by Xebec who's inside of Teach

>>282077150
>>282077204
its pretty clear that Blackbeard is going to steal/usurp Imu's power before the end and become the new god/demon of darkness and sit at the seat of the world and declare himself pirate king (possibly after capturing/enslaving/marrying vivi himself)
Making Luffy go on the final princess rescue arc to defeat him with a big punch, destroy the redline in the process (Luffy Gear 5 punch clashing with the Quake punch of Blackbeard) and achieving true freedom of the world

>>282077205
the davy clan didn't originate in godsvalley, the survivors had just settled there because it was an unaffiliated kingdom their oppressors had (until the incident) paid zero attention to

Rate my oc
>daughter of a yonko
>is a oni
>has a mythical zoan
>is super duper strong
>knew and was friend of ace
>also trans

>>282077084
>Imu as king of the world
Slavery, genocide, world drowning, thought control, literal island erasure.
>Rocks as king of the world
none of that, or at least no world drowning or genocide games.

I know who to pick as my king.

>>282077227
we don't know what the ancient kingdom's relationship was with the Lunarians, but we know that during the Second Era the Lunarians ruled the world as gods from atop the Redline
if the world is to be considered the Davy Clan's birthright then it's less likely that they are related to the Lunarian royal family and more likely that they are related to the King of the World of the 1st Era

>>282077179
Tsk tsk, they just don't know better, final will have them lose everything and start from scratch, while everyone else is like "haha see, we all are the same!".

>>282077256
>Can turn into a colorful magical japanese wolf god

Rate my oc
>big gun

Rate my oc
>boy from a small village in a peaceful part of the world
>wants to become a pirate to live up to the dreams of his childhood hero
>has a devil fruit that lets him bounce around and do cool punches, but i dont want him to be too overpowered
>is actually related to famous heroes from the previous generation but keeps it a secret
>partway through the story it will be revealed he is actually the reincarnation of an ancient god that will overthrow the evil at the top of the corrupt fascistic government and help usher in a communist utopia of freedom and partying where all races and countries are equal

why did oda just throw like half of his comic in the trash post-timeskip

>smoker is luffy's rival? boooooring
>tashigi is zoro's rivial? Who was she again?
>lol, what were dials again?
>chopper? Cool? nah son, he's a marketable plushie
>franky has carpenter powers? what are you smoking. that never happened
>creative power uses? Who needs them, we have haki now
>seastone and island clouds come from wano? nah, that's boring. We need to wank off all these annoying samurai nobody gives a fuck about except redditors
>vegapunk will explain devil fruits and how to feed them to guns? Where did I ever say that?

Only idiots can think that Xebec (and Blackbeard) are bad. Oda is an anarchist, and One Piece is an anarchist manifesto. Roger cannot be a good guy since he collaborated with a far-right government to protect his interests.
Rufy and Barabanera can be seen as Trotsky and Stalin.

>>282077277
The promised to his people thing is just a joke reference to Israel

>>282076305
Garp works for and protects a fascist government. In Oda's mind he can only be an a villain. Have you ever heard about ACAB?

>>282077364
>smoker is luffy's rival? boooooring
>tashigi is zoro's rivial? Who was she again?

Neither of them were rivals to Luffy or Zoro.

>>282076305
This. Mindcucked faggots unironically think Garp is a villain at this point LMAO

>>282077459
why is Kaido soiing out like that

>>282077459
Oda is a leftist. How can a dog of a group of old fascists be the "good guy"? Garp would kill any strawhat if ordered but hey "he is le good guy"

>>282076057 (OP)
So why is his name rocks if his real name is davy?

>>282076305
>Which he know he isn't,
How is he not? He abused kids and spent his entire life defending a system that is run by literal demons

Garp of Kizaru? Who's more of a bootlicker.

>>282077364
>>smoker is luffy's rival? boooooring
>tashigi is zoro's rivial? Who was she again?
Neither of them were Luffy's and Zoro's rivals, retard
>lol, what were dials again?
Usopp and Nami uses them in their weapons. But seeing Impact Dials again would be cool I guess.
>chopper? Cool? nah son, he's a marketable plushie
Always was
>franky has carpenter powers? what are you smoking. that never happened
You want to see cringe moments of Franky building random wooden stairs again? Lame. He maintains the Sunny.
>creative power uses? Who needs them, we have haki now
We still have creative power uses, you just seethe about Haki for no reason
>seastone and island clouds come from wano? nah, that's boring. We need to wank off all these annoying samurai nobody gives a fuck about except redditors
Island clouds never came from Wano. What is the problem here? Wano as an arc has problems sure but you're making no point
>vegapunk will explain devil fruits and how to feed them to guns? Where did I ever say that?
We won't get the actual full origins of Devil Fruits until Laugh Tale, that much was always obvious. Feeding objects Devil Fruits is a valid point though, but Lilith is still with the Straw Hats so don't jump the gun

>>282077436
>>282077485
Stop using the word "fascist" when you don't know what it means, it makes you sound retarded and indicates your commie leanings. The World Government is not corporatist, it's monarchist.

>>282077485
One Piece is a right-wing manga. Why do you think Oda would have freedom as one of the main themes if he was a leftist? Leftists hate freedom more than anything else, they want a globalist authoritarian technocracy, just like the World Government.

>>282077485
Hasn't Garp outright disobeyed orders he didn't agree either before?

I think it's obvious that Oda sees Garp as a flawed man with good intentions. Now has he been good at showing this? Not really. Maybe it worked from the Japanese perspective but having Garp watch his adopted son die in front of him and doing fuck all about it because of his duty is pretty irredeemable.

>>282077501
Did you read the latest chapter?

>>282077556
>right-wing manga
Lmao

>>282077556
His dad's flagship is named after the boat Fidel Castro used to get back into Cuba with his revolutionaries lol

>>282076542
garling literally just killed the mother of his own children

>>282077556
>>282077606
unironically true
nika is an aryan ubermensch who will overthrow a tiny nation of very special people who run the world and who have oppressed the bloodlines of their most hated enemy

they have created a world of limited movement (very hard to sail between one island and the next), forced tribute to the land of the very special people, heavily controlled by propaganda and fear if you ever question the history of how the special people came into power

they claim to be a world of equality sitting around a round table with no one king... but secretly controlled by a singular evil demonic entity that can order the death of anyone for... well we aren't sure exactly what imu's plan is, but it's fucking demonic

i hate to say it, but oda is a chud

>>282076305
>PLEASE OHHH GOD; KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE FOR NO REASON!!! I CAN'T DEAL WITH GREY AREAS....PLEASEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

>Garp fought and defeated Rocks under the condition that the triannual genocide tournament be abolished hence why we have never heard about it in the present day
Would this salvage his reputation in your eye?

>>282077606
>No argument
Kek
>>282077620
What ship?

>>282077556
this is trolling right? nobody can possibly be this fucking stupid and still know how to write.

>>282077658
So they can kill people in privacy in their city, he protects, instead of going outside and risking pirate raids or the info becoming public? yeah sure.

>>282077653
TRVTHNVKE

>>282076305
>Dragon you fucking retard, you're supposed to look the other way and accept your paycheck! How hard can it be? You're paying for your own healthcare boy!
yep... the good guy btw

>>282077717
The people that are that stupid are the ones who think One Piece is a leftist manga kek. Imagine being such cucked NPCs

whitebeard was rock's concubine with that long golden hair wasn't he

>"One Piece is a leftist manga!"
>ignores the fact that a group of "celestial dragons" run the world with fucking super satan
>ignores that Oda constantly talks about how History is written by the victors
>ignores how Oda celebrates the unique cultures of each island the straw hats go to
>ignores how much Oda stress propaganda as being used by the CELESTIAL DRAGONS for bad events
>THERE IS A VOID CENTURY THAT IS SO TABOO TO INVESTIGATE THAT YOU WILL BE DEPERSONED FOR DOING IT

Oda is based as fuck in the only way that matters. There is no left or right, its just civilized people, Low IQ hoards, and (((them))). Those are the three groups.

>Oda: racism is bad
>Oda: slavery is bad
>Oda: trans people are pretty good company
>4chan: oh my god, he's a retarded maggat shitheel just like me

fucking neck yourselves vermin. your mom wishes she aborted you, and she's right to

>>282077556
I can’t believe retards like you read one piece and still stay this stupid lmao
take a look at Oda’s studio, he’s a lefty through and through, just like Kojima.

>>282077598
Does he have a rock devil fruit?

>>282077717
I'll give you a hint: Mary Geoise is Israel
once you make that connection the rest of the analogy is pretty obvious

>>282077364
>smoker
just a bench warmer while koby trained
>tashigi
just smoker's sidekick. replaced by helmeppo, koby's sidekick
>dials
just a gimmick he made up for skypeian schizotech and replaced by plants so he could make use of the ideas for a crew botanist by assigning those traits to usopp
>chopper
because after hearing the voice actress he couldn't see chopper as anything but a cutesy mascot now instead of a troubled young deer boy so he redesigned him to reflect that new cognition
>franky's carpentry
don't need it when everyone is now capable of a 50 foot horizontal leap or otherwise straight up flying, and you have a boat made of nigh indestructible wood
>creative power users
you memory hole Whole Cake already?
>Pyrobloin deposits under wano
yeah and they had a whole prison arc revolving around seastone collars
>Samurai
Oda loves samurai and robots. If you were expecting the main focus of the samurai kingdom to be stuff other than samurai, you have only yourself to blame.
>Vegapunk will explain devil fruits
the series ain't over yet. He'll explain them when Oda wants the audience to know the secret
>

>>282077762
>Fishman Island is for the Fishman
This is ok

>Alabasta is for the Alabastans
This is ok

>Pirate island is for the Pirates
This is ok

----Leftist brainrot engaged here-----

>"It isn't Celestial Dragons that are bad...its just the RED LINE that's bad!"
>"NOOO the Giants don't deserve their own homeland because they're whi-errr they were mean to other groups!"
>"if you disagree with these things you are a c-h-u-d"

Nobody that's truly right wing (non-boomer) cares about race, or slavery, or anything. We just care about (((bankers))) controlling the world and Europeans being replaced in their own homelands.
That's it. You sick twisted fuck.

>>282077762
>>Oda: racism is bad
T-this totally means Oda is in support of le heckin multiculturalism and erasure of native cultures and people!
>Oda: slavery is bad
HAH, the right supports slavery, right?
>Oda: trans people are pretty good company
Le chud owned, Oda draws heckin valid representations of the trans community! What? What do you mean they're drawn like ugly gag characters!? Fascist!

You low IQ shit for brains are beyond saving. Kill yourself.

>>282077785
Hey stop noticing. There is no way Oda is an anti semite.

>>282077785
cease the anti-tenryuubite bigotry, chud.
Mariejois has the right to preemptively invade Elbaf.

>>282077824
no, oda is a luciferian freemason
it actually goes so much deeper

>>282077717
Right wing fags literally do not know what they really stand for except for "Must Hate [x]" and will say anything and do anything for the sake of hatred. Ask them to define their favorite buzzwords and they'll freeze up or make up asinine bullshit while moving goalposts every single time. If a person had any real sense of literacy, logic, self-awareness, and/or ethics they would never swing that far right.

>>282077817
You'll notice that at the end of the day, all Leftism stands for is hatred for Europeans.
Gays will unite with Islamic extremists in order to destroy Europeans. And remember, it isn't "Celestial Dragons" that are bad, its just the "Celestial Dragons" living on the Red Line! Not all Celestial Dragons!

>>282077758
https://desuarchive.org/a/search/filename/8648826beec9497537e6d842d0ff7a14.png/

>>282077826
you're right anon, elbaf is a country that continues to produce incredibly violent pirates that cant be controlled
even a single pirate could destroy an entire nation!
the tenryuubito created this world and as such deserve our continued and ongoing tribute
now please tell me where i can find Saint Charloss my wife has to suck his cock

>>282077768
Everything Oda writes in One Piece is heavily against the left. The World Government is as leftoid coded as possible you dumb nigger. Being anti-World Government and pro-independent nations free from foreign invaders and influence is extremely right-wing.

the spammer has once more shifted from algosharts to /pol/bait in response to copping a ban

>Alabasta is for the Alabastians
>Elbaph is for the Giants
>Fishman Island is for the Fishman
>Japan is for the Japanese
>Europe is for the Europeans
>Africa is for the Africans
>Celestial Dragons shouldn't control every aspect of the world and its economy
>etc. etc. etc.

Why do the above statements drive leftists insane?

>>282077845
ironic because the left only speaks in buzzwords

>>282077758
Leftists will ignore this to screech about muh capitalism or whatever. They fell for the grift, hard.

>>282077879
i really wish they would kill themsevles.

>>282077580
>Now has he been good at showing this? Not really.
Pretty much. Between what you mentioned, the fact that he claims to not be a CD dog yet still stuck around the WG after God Valley, and becoming upset that he kids he pawned off to criminals grew up to be criminals, he comes across as a prevaricating weasel with zero conception of cause and effect.

>>282077884
Leftoids love bootlicking their masters and crime more than anything. They unironically WANT their countries to become filled with savages.

Shame that a cute deer girl only got to be an extra

Has Oda written anyone as remotely pathetic and up his ass as Charlie Kirk? I wish he did so it would shut this retarded /pol/fag right up

>>282077894
you don't know what left or right means

>>282077926
Leftists rage-seethe at retarded FoxNews boomers all day, then proceed to airdrop 50million somolians into rural England for no reason to own the chuds or something.

>>282076057 (OP)
Does Oda actually believe in the power of dreams?
Because it seems that One Piece is a story about special people being dragged back to their destiny no matter how they try to fight to.

>>282077845
I wish I was religious enough to believe in the concept of hell. The idea that these people will shit up all of reality and then die, never facing the torment of downing for all eternity in a river of shit and used condoms, having their intestines being pulled out, devoured by pirannhas only for it to regenerate in seconds as visions of everyone they ever hated enjoying endless carnal pleasures while laughing at their baby penis is frankly just a cosmic injustice

>>282077988
i think the real answer is alignment between your dreams, yourself as a person, and your circumstances
thats when the real magic happens
a recurring theme with the past generation is they were "too early" or only had partially what they needed
that's why inherited will is also such an important thing - that person's dream will come true, but that person may not be the one to fulfill it
which creates a really bittersweet feeling

Anyway, i think all the past generation greats, Rocks, Roger, Garp (yes even Garp) had the power and had the dream but the timing wasnt right

I will give Ulti headpats

>>282077998
Religious nuts basically believe that they are better than everyone and thus they will get to be in God special clubhouse while the other, inferior people will go to hell. It not even religious, it just superior complex using religion as their cover,

>>282077974
I do, you obviously don't.

>>282078018
she deserves them

Only if you are ok with headbutts

Any chance of Wang Zhe having had the teleportation fruit before Van Augur?

>>282078058
That's a pretty random guess so Idk, 10%?

>>282078058
>Wang Zhe
who?

Browns think Rayleigh will defeat Garling.
Hope Garling keeps Shakky for many years after God valley and then throw her away

>>282078030
See >>282077980

>>282078071
The World's Strongest Rapist.

>>282078080
What would BrownPiece look like?
Gear death?

>>282078071
Ochako. Whatever his name is?

>>282078070
Well is there a chance Van Augur only got his powers after the Rocky Port incident when Wang Zhe was defeated?
And Wang Zhe was able to kidnap Shakky specifically because of his powers?

>>282077988
I don't think Oda is ever going to validate someone's dream of ruling the world. I'd go as far as to argue that the whole reason the nika fruit chose Luffy is because it sensed that he was the rare kind of person who, when handed the keys to the kingdom on a silver platter, would say "no thanks, I'd rather have a sandwich" so to speak. Everyone else might have noble or ignoble goals but none of them would be able to resist the temptation to sit on the throne of the world and try to fix everything they see as being wrong with the world. Koby, Blackbeard, Kuzan, Shanks, all of them have the potential to just become the next Imu in the process of trying to realize their wildest dreams

>>282078092
Ochuko is the one who kidnapped Shakky, retard. Wang Zhi did no such thing.

>>282078043
Hnnnnnnnngghhhhh

>>282078118
Nah I'm pretty sure it was Wang Zhi. Ochuku killed Don Marlon

>>282078118
OK fine. Well, is there a chance Ochuku had the teleport fruit, which is why Van Augur now has it?

I was hoping to see Don Marlon at God Valley bros... why did Wang Zhi do it...

>>282078149
pirates betray people, go figure

>>282078119
Yamato is so FUARKing lucky.

>>282077988
I don't think oda believes dreams are powerful on the individual level. Rather, he believes that dreams are a type of fate that transcends an individual lifetime. You might not live to see your dream come to fulfillment, but if you can pass the dream down to someone, eventuall that dream will come true

>>282078092
If any Blackbeard Pirate has a fruit of a Rocks Pirate, I'd personally go for Vasco Shot having the the fruit of Captain John.

>>282078171
holy antisemetism
Next you'll say spirits will rise from the grave or something, you sick fuck

What Doflamingo father should have done to not end up like the way he did?

>>282076542
Vegapunk already confirmed Imu/the original 20 kings weren't entirely evil.

>>282078189
Garlingmaxx

>>282078189
cut his hair and wear regular clothes so he wouldn't stand out, then move to another island with a new identity.

>>282078189
if he'd taken the kids and fucked off from marijoa while they were still babies, doflamingo wouldn't have grown attached to the hyperprivileged lifestyle. that plus changing the family name would have prevented anyone finding out they were tenryubito's

Where the fuck is my nigga Gil Bastar?

Kaido is getting low diff next week

>>282078223
IDK the government has ways of magically finding out info that would be unprovable. They had no way of verifying Ace was indeed Roger's son and they had no way of verifying baby Blackbeard was a Davy.

>>282078217
>>282078223
I doubt that the WG going to let it happen. I think they would just leak the info about his family wherever they go

>>282077364
>build up your own expectations outside of reality
>get mad when they don't happen
This seems to be a recurring theme with the retards that hate One Piece.

THE
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>>282078237
>>282078237
>>282078237

>>282078238
>they had no way of verifying Ace was indeed Roger's son
I'm pretty sure they can do DNA tests given they can straight up clone people

>>282078256
>build up your own expectations outside of reality
this is such a lame fucking take
there were definitely some setups and characterizations that havent fully panned out or that have diminished in importance in the story as time has gone on
people arent wrong for pointing that out and they arent wrong for liking the way the story has evolved over time

>>282077512
With the world government, you could die or be a slave by the CD
Without the world government, you're definitely dead by pirates

the admiral Rocks killed was Admiral Buster Wolf, inventor of the Buster Call

>>282078314
>Buster Wolf
holy fuark... you mean rocks beat HIM?

>>282077658
>I'll do it, under the condition that the triannual genocide tournament be abolished
>No
>Well I tried

so, any theories on how objects eat devil fruits? None of his inventions seemed to provide any mechanism for it, unless merely getting the fruit's juice on it transforms it or something

>>282077740
Dragon fights for universal healthcare... He truly is the world's most dangerous man

>>282078346
IDK man just stick it in the fruit? We've never seen devil fruits impaled to hold them up, have we? Do people eat these things with a fork?

>>282078407
>On this day, Monkey D. Dragon received a bounty of 6 gorillion berries.

>>282078407
That's fuckin hilarious

>>282078346
my guess is if it has a hollow, then you seal a portion of the fruit inside the hollow, the fruit considers that good enough.

>>282078346
the method has to be incredibly straightforward given that someone in wano accidentally created the teapot tanuki
>clarke's law answer:
human spit is the catalyst to activate the nanomachine swarm inside a devil fruit and begin remodeling whatever body they find themself inside. if you put a DF inside an object and then spit on it (or, say, pour in a glass of water you took a sip of that now has a bit of backwash in it) that triggers the process and they convert the object.
>a wizard did it answer
the act of taking a bite of a DF functions as signing a contract with the devil inside the fruit. You just need to have some way for the object to 'bite' the fruit, and it will result in the object being contracted like it's a person. like say, putting the fruit inside a teapot with the intent to brew tea with it and accidentally ripping off a piece where it got caught in the lid

>>282078247
>>282078238
My memory is a bit fuzzy for those chapters, but weren't they hunted by regular citizens? What does the WG have to do with their demise after they left the CDs?

>>282078407
...

So Dragon is just a bootleg Coby? What was Oda thinking with this?

Why is Toby mirroring Imu when he should be mirroring Akainu (Sword vs Marine)? Why is Sabo mirroring Akainu when he should be mirroring Imu (Revolutionaries vs World government)? Why is Sabo bigger than Dragon?

>>282078407
>first mate to the pirate king? Oh well let's let him chill at his bar for years without investigating anything
>unborn child to the pirate king? DESTROY IT NOW

>Rocks invaded Marijois and got into the flower room and killed world nobles and an admiral? Ahh well, he's not so bad
>Dragon CONVINCING A FEW BACKWATER ISLANDS TO TURN AGAINST US? WORST CRIMINAL IN HISTORY ADANONAOICNAIUNR

Are the WG and Navy the most inconsistent groups in any fiction?

>>282078442
Coby would be sobbing in the fetal position the entire time, he would not have time to notice what was happening, let alone save anyone.

>>282078435
>human spit
well saturn was testing the method of devil fruit power transference on bonney without eating a devil fruit so that checks out

>>282078444
it's not mirroring its corresponding, like this. These are...let's call it the quarterfinal matchups that will happen first, followed by the semifinal matchups, and then the final round of luffy vs the last man standing

>>282078359
>Do people eat these things with a fork?

kaku did.

>>282078428
what about funkfreed and smiley?

>>282078435
doesn't explain smiley

>>282078506
This means Garling is croaking early

>>282078522
>kaku did
I'm assuming Oda didn't show us any forks with devil fruits for the simple reason that you can't just give an object an ability by shoving it in. It would have been one of the very first things to show as a gag in the series.

Come to think of it, how do you "kill" an object with a devil fruit?

>>282078437
The guy was declare a heretic by the other CD and the WG clearly doesn't want people to think that CD is the same as normal people. It's possible that the WG would leak info to the people knowing what they would do to a CD with no protection from the navy.

By 2030, Blackbeard's going to look so pale in the anime. Just look at what they're doing to Usopp.

>>282078407
HOW DARE YOU, DRAGON-SAN?! This kind of thinking is exactly why anti-tenryuubite violence is on the rise around the world!

>>282078444
So retards see this and still think Oda will let Rayleigh defeat Garling

>>282078539
>how do you "kill" an object with a devil fruit?
shinto animism rules apply, presumably. once an object has been broken to the point where it can't perform its function anymore, it loses the kami housed inside it and is considered dead.

Our HEROES!

>>282078535
I'd guess he is itching to backstab Imu somehow and that will be his demise

so, this is presumably some more evidence that luffy will destroy mary geoise and fishman island, but what do you think the 8 "sun rays" are supposed to represent? were there sunken islands around fishman island or something?

>>282078506
It's mirror
>Shanks/Buggy - Red and blue. Apprentice of Pirate King
>Blackbeard/Luffy - Black and White (chosen ones)
>Akainu/Sabo - Magma and Fire (Killed his brother)
>Aokiji/Dragon - Former Marine (apprentice of Garp and Son of Garp)
>Garling/Shamrock - Father and Son
>Coby/Imu - ???

>build a Time Machine
>bring Oden from the past to Onigashima
>Kaido pisses and jizzes his pants simultaneously

>>282078506
So the lines are which matchups? Cuz they don't make sense to me

>>282078542
that's a lot of assumptions. Merely not allowing them to return is all they need/want to do

Ten Ryuubi Toes

Isn’t killing Marines pretty evil? They’re mostly normal everyday guys that want to help people around the world. The WG agents are the legitimately evil cunts.

>>282078689
the initial matchups. half will be defeated and then the winners will have a second round of matchups against each other, probably with interference from the surviving losers of the first round. this is where actual history will start being made.

>>282076305
/thread

>>282078522
>what about funkfreed
piece of fruit in the hilt
>and smiley?
Caesar made a hollow in the gel

>>282078723
Not when they’re rounding up civilians for genocide and screaming at anyone who questions the orders to shut up and follow them.
That said, the civilian who murdered Vice-Admiral T-Bone did it out of desperation for the bounty money, not out of malice.

>>282078723
Said marines also want to capture and lock them up.
You could say that it's self-defense on their parts though discussing morality is pointless because they are pirate after all. (except Luffy for obvious reasons)

>>282078671
add it to the list

It's true that Bonney is joining the crew?

>>282078723
Bitch if you are coming at me with a rifle I will gomu gomu no punch your head off. T-bone didn't deserve it and fodder are just following orders but it doesn't mean you should not defend yourself when it's warranted.

>>282078723
Wehrmacht vs Gestapo

>>282078746
Interesting which ones will win and which will lose you think?

>>282078784
No, her story arc is over and she is just a child.

>>282078671
the 8 allies that were inspired by Nika in the first era and came together to topple the king of the world

dragon was so lucky

Why is Shamrock a jobber?

>>282078677
I think this is accurate for the most part

>>282078792
Yes anon, the gods chosen celestial dragons are the Gestapo

Powerful and brave take

>>282078444
Sabo makes sense

>>282076305
>before this flashback is over.
Not really, its possible to do heroic shit for villainous reasons. Rocks strikes me as a...
>I wouldn't say freed, more like, under new management.
type. He just never got to toppling the old regime to install his own before his crew's inevitable betrayals got him first.

>>282078806
>its like she's looking at walking garbage
m-mommy

>>282078787
actually defending yourself and your people makes you a TERRORIST and an anti-tenryuubite.

>>282078807
imu is a demo
god's knights and CD's in general are the descendants of the families that helped imu win the war in the void century and take over the planet
in exchange imu gives them power and lets them larp as gods and warriors (god's knights)
but all they do is target women, children, and defenseless countries
they've never had to fight anyone for real thats why they lose their shit when the real fighters roll up

Davy D Offscreen

>>282078852
its Off D. Screen you illiterate buffoon

>>282078806
>>282078834
There will come a time when this croco-mom theory will finally die. And I will be happy.

>>282078847
Who the fuck was declared a terrorist in One Piece?

>>282078506
>>282078677
Koby represents the "promising" future of the Marines and the WG that stand for justice. Imu represents the old and corrupt evils

>>282078888
>theory
it’s a shitpost, autist

>>282078891
Abdullah and Jeet

>>282078888
cursed digits
crocomom theory is life

>>282078891
Luffy and Sabo

>>282078778
Even the Kuja Pirates thing is like a sun

>>282078898
kek

>>282078888
Crocodile isnt Tritoma but she is in fact originally a woman

>>282078896
Originally an unironic theory

>>282078916
Terrorists?! When?

>>282078928
it was never a real theory

>>282078920
It's true they bombed a government building

>>282077084
Who would ever do that, just running around and proclaiming you're going to be king of something? I struggle to imagine such a fiend.

>>282078948
No way, that makes it even better lol
What chapter?

>>282078944
its real to me goddammit

>>282078979
It's Dressrosa around the 700s I don't fucking remember. It's when they are introducing the fighters at the colosseum

>>282079025
you’re running out of material

>>282079012
LMAO
I just wish the word 'terrorists' was there, oh well.

>>282077556
Thoroughly examining the all-over-the-place politics of One Piece would be a lengthy conversation that is impossible to have on this board with the number of reactionary retards on here. Thr only thing that is impossible to deny is that they're clearly anti-authoritarian. Every single establishment figure is either actively malicious or a useful idiot, and this includes Garp, whose most heroic action was directly defying orders to give Luffy a shot at saving Ace.

Whitebeard

>>282076057 (OP)
I wouldn't call him good, just not a complete sociopath or psychopath.
Rocks is a criminal, morally, but he isn't irredeemable.

>>282079050
Just a reminder that the gay porn spammer posted literal CP a couple of months ago. Report him for breaking UD law

oda ruined roger

>>282078944
It was what do you mean a real theory?

>>282079053
>>282078948
Reminds me of yuyu hakusho ending

>>282079124
as in not a shitpost

>>282078801
which ones?
>alabasta
>fishman island
>zou
>wano
>elbaf

that would leave 3 more.


>>282078847
ngl, koby is honestly the one marine I think is justified.
>Has very valid reasons to distrust pirates
>Still young enough to not realize just how shitty the WG is
>Knows that luffy is too much of a dumbass to claim one piece
>He's already handed in his resignation letter and is leeching off their payroll to stop teach

>>282079075
Would

>>282079155
It was a real theory not a shitpost then it became a meme

Daily reminder Ulti is catholic, she is not a heretic.

>>282079070
>Garp, whose most heroic action was directly defying orders to give Luffy a shot at saving Ace.
while i agree with your anti-authoritarian take i think even this view of garp is a little bit overly reductionist.

i think oda does a good job of depicting a spectrum of how the marines deal with their participation in the system, from the lazy foot dragging of aokiji to the overly strict akainu

garp is clearly "stuck". he got himself high enough in the ranks that he can act fairly self directed, low enough in the ranks that he isnt personally at the beck and call of the gorosei, but still high enough that he's aware of the hypocrisy.

his answer is to focus on training the next generation, clearly in the hopes of a better future.

>>282079174
it was always a shitpost, you were just too autistic to figure that out

Many Holy Knights/Celestial Dragons are being killed in God Valley.

We know that Gaban defeats Sommers.

There must be a reason why Imu (Gunko's body) is attacking.

>>282079178
roman catholicism is a heresy

So Vegapunk's broadcast begins today, how likely is it that we'll be looking at modern day Namek situation given the express stated timeframe in the manga and how many chapters it took to unfold?

>>282079217
No

>>282078928
no, it was always a shit post, Crocomom has always just been a joke answer to the question of who Luffy's mom is.
Crocodile was probably a woman, and probably even fucked Dragon but that was just because he used to be a revolutionary when he was a woman.

>>282076057 (OP)
>>282077084

I bet whatever we'll get on his flashback arc will have to do with the "One Piece", maybe what he'll to Roger was the whole motivation to go to that island

>>282079204
Maybe the croco mom one but crocodile being a woman was a real theory

>>282079099
Roger was only ever cool in his intro

>>282079236
oda would go down as the biggest madlad in history if he made crocomom canon

>>282079236
Yeah i meant crocodile being a woman not being luffy's mom that part is definitely unserious

>>282079205
>There must be a reason why Imu (Gunko's body) is attacking.
Sommers was in a embarrassing state when Imu took command of the situation, and Kilingham was in a seperate location and his powers were proving the most detrimental to the giants at the time, other than her seemingly being his handmaiden, she was the most viable option at that time.

>>282076542
don flamingo is very obviously evil for the sake of being evil, not to mention his pedophile boogerboy best man who obviously raped law

>>282078937
>Luffy
since Enies Lobby, but the labeling became more obvious when it was reported he orchestrated the assassination attempt on Big Mom and kept Vegapunk hostage for ransom, just to kill him out of spite.
>Sabo
when he “killed” Cobra, speedy.

>>282079160
shandora is probably another one
and I'd bet whatever thriller bark was before it got abandoned, found by moriah, and turned into a boat since that arc puts so much emphasis on luffy as a sunbringer
and at that point oda would probably make the third either ennies lobby or thriller bark just so luffy has already visited all of them

>>282078308
Post proofs.

>>282077556
this comment would get banned on reddit therefore proving it right

>>282079264
Remember when crocodile saved luffy multiple times in Marineford after it was revealed who his dad was? #noticing

I think Ginny's husband isn't a Holy Knight. Garling killed Shanks's mom because he didn't need her.

If Shamrock were like Garling, he would kill Ginny and Bonney.

>>282079264
yeah it would be funny

>>282079271
I refer to them as femCroc and Crocomom for that reason, because they aren't the same theory.

>>282079217
all christianity is heresy, yeshua ben yosef did not condone most of that shit, paul aka saul did and his letters were taken as more gospel than the oldest gospels, even when he contradicted himself

>>282079282
And the word terrorist was used to describe them?

>>282079099
you’re a retard who fell for WG propaganda of Roger.
every ex-Roger pirate who met Luffy kept reminiscing about how much the straw hat reminded them of their captain.

>>282079321
>yeshua ben yosef did not condone most of that shit
Actually he told his followers to follow the Rabbis in everything they teach lol look at matthew 23

>>282079309
I deluded myself into thinking Garling kidnapped Ginny, fell in love with her, and was shocked and upset that Saturn used her for science experiments, hence why she was let go to be able to go back to her hometown, where Kuma can find her. since then, Garling would harbor a secret but very deep grudge against Imu and the Elders while aiming to eventually overthrow them.
that sucks, guess 100% evil Garling is the one we’re getting.

>>282077653
netflix will netfix this since a nignog is directing it

>>282079321
jesus christ was arrested in a public park with a naked boy
mark 14:51-52
everything jesus had was stolen from the greek mystery religions
then the bible was backdated to make the old testament seem older than it was
this fake religion was used to justify the takeover of the world
not unlike the celestial dragons

>>282079307
that is why the Crocomom theory has legs as a shitpost. all of it can be true without Crocodile being Luffy's mom.

>was a woman
>was a revolutionary
>fucked Dragon

>>282076305
While it's definitely a possibility I wouldn't be so certain about it. It's not like Roger and Garp need Rocks to be domi reversied or even to start a rampage on his own to fight him. They'd fight him on sight regardless.

>>282079366
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew%2023&version=NIV
the one where he says all worldly leaders of religion and state are hypocrites and you should never consider them an actual authority on anything except ways to violently kill and persecute people who disobey them, even when forbidden why the teachings they claim to uphold?

>>282079392
the best shitposts have a kernel of truth to them

>>282079309
He killed her to hide his children are half Davy

>>282079328
luffy is not a pathetic simp who gets motivated to fight for pussy that doesn’t want him like roger

>>282079264
Not really, Gege made crocomom real in JJK first.

>>282079433
>why the teachings
*by the teachings

Does Shamrock know that his mother is a "dirty" insect?

>>282079278
>pedophile boogerboy best man who obviously raped law
Nobody thinks this

>>282078917
I have a theory Pirate empress are thought to read ancient langauge

>>282079278 #
>pedophile boogerboy best man who obviously raped Law
Everyone thinks this

>>282079328
Every ex roger pirate are retard because Luffy isn't a pathetic loser like Roger.
They should have seen Roger in Sanji

>>282079383
>hence why she was let go to be able to go back to her hometown,
Lmao anon if that were true and he cared he would have abyssed her or sent a CD ship straight to her hometown. He wouldn't have allowed a sick young mother to cross the grand line back to south blue on a crappy fishing boat.

Who breastfed baby Shamrock?

>>282079499
All rape doujins of shota Law are about Doflamingo, Trebol never appears.

>>282079537
Garling of course

>>282079469
I can't tell and it's making me crazy. I kinda want him not to know so he can be crushed by the news but then again if he knew since birth that could warp his character even more

>>282079449
Why on earth would he do that? Does he want to overthrow Imu?

>>282079611
no, don't be silly

please care about usopp

>>282077556
Left and right have different ideas on freedom. You just don't know what freedom means for the left hence your retarded take.

>>282079588
He's definitely indoctrinated. I dont think he'd care about his weakling of a mom. Shamrock is Garling Jr. Though he can still hate his pops but for completely different and selfish reasons.

>>282079505
do you hate women?

I am not sexually attracted to Stussy.

>>282079099
Shakky ruined one piece

>>282079452
1. JJK didn't have nearly the length of sustained cultural impact one piece has
2. JJK ended horribly so its long term staying power is diminished (we'll see if there's a revival with its new series)
3. Kenjaku backshots was pretty fun, but nowhere near how many heads would explode with Crocomom

>>282079661
We know, Newgate.

>>282079661
that's none of my business

>>282079651
While I can see it I also can't believe a guy who based his sentiment of innate superiority upon a pure bloodline wouldn't be shaken by the news he's half insect.
I also don't believe Garling treated him well knowing this.

>>282079661
this but shakky

>>282079677
>yes he did it first but JJK does not matter
Fair but that's still a lot of words to deny Gege did it first.

If i were warden of Impel Down i'd also get enjoyment from killing the occasional pirate in my downtime. Its not that big a deal

I am sexually attracted to Koby.

>>282079651
We know that Shamrock visited Harald's grave and that he had contact with Shanks.

Perhaps Harald was a father figure to Shamrock.

>>282076542
Yes, there are actually evil people such as Doffy in this manga. Imu and the CDs will be the same as Oda will portray them to be completely irredeemable bastards.

>>282079638
You dont even care about him enough to visit him, Yasopp. Why would we?

>>282079722
We know Helmeppo

>>282079703
Maybe Shanks told his brother that his mother is an commoner

>>282079720
im not denying it tho...
i said:
>oda would go down as the biggest madlad in history if he made crocomom canon
you brought up gege
but nothing in what i said had anything to do with who did what first when
Kenjaku backshots was funny and made the rounds on social media
but crocomom has been so controversial for so long it would make more heads explode than JJK

>>282079728
>doffy
>actually evil
Low IQ post.

>>282077204
Why not? We have yet to see most of everything from Imu whereas we have seen nearly everything from BB's character. Why do you doubt Oda's ability in this?

>>282079722
We know BlackBeard

>>282079747
>but crocomom has been so controversial for so long it would make more heads explode than JJK
I think it would have a huge reaction but not as much as Ginny's rape because we've been shitposting about it since Impel Down

>>282079797
yeah but the crocomom haters salty tears would be so much tastier

>>282079740
Did Shanks know before he met Garling though? I don't see how he would. But then again I have no idea how Loki knew about Garling killing his mother. Unless it's just the narrator who knows? Hard to tell right now.

>>282079469
Does Charloss?

>>282079142
Prepping themselves for Sanji and Luffy.

>>282077239
Nope. That's just retarded.

>>282079761
Because BB as a character has been built up for decades. Having a known entity (with some unkown elements), in BB, be the main antagonist, works way better than a last minute big bad who was secretly controlling everything.

>>282079858
you're retarded for not seeing it
the second luffy's fruit got retconned it became obvious what was going to happen

>>282079758
>t. didn't read the Doflamingo/Corazon flashback properly
Kek its pretty obvious that Oda has portrayed Doffy to be evil from the start unlike his brother who still managed to grow to become a good person.

It’s not inherently bad to be an NPC for the WG when you think about it

I don't the hero worship of Rocks. I mean, he's not a bad guy. Sure. But he hasn't actually, like... done anything. We're given a laundry list of crimes he's committed but no context for how any of those crimes helped or hurt anyone. The only concrete action we've seen him take is to rob an allegedly fraudulant charity. Which, again-- not evil, but also not useful or helpful.

I feel like 80% of fandom is currently lined up to suck his cock because they just, like, vibe with his aura or something. It's weird.

>>282079805
True, some people used to be so anal that the theory is treated seriously.
Of course it would have been better if Oda had confirmed it during the heights of the theory's popularity but the metldown would still be great. Not to mention all the casuals who have never heard of the theory would be brought to the internet by the news to share their meltdown (or support) about their favourite childhood villain.

>>282077658
If Roger wasn't there he would have let the tourney happen like every other year so no

>>282079870
How is Imu last minute though? He has been in the manga for more than half a decade at this point. And that argument of "BB being introduced early" is really not that meaningful considering that the WG has been built up as main villains the entire series. I mean just look at this fucking flashback. Not even Rocks was portrayed to be as evil or menacing as Garling. Imu's existence has also been hinted as years before his introduction (see Dressrosa and Skypeia) and we have yet to see his full backstory or motivations. So, no, you saying BB works better just because of that is not a good argument.

>>282079721
It's illegal to kill prisoners without the Wardens permission
If Shiryu did end up killing all the Level 6 prisoners The raid would have failed and Luffy, Teach and Buggy would have died there instead of becoming Emperors.
The WG would be down to 3 Yonko who would continue to stalemate each other and no one would ever reach Laugh Tale, There'd be a couple dozen less revolutionaries running around as well

>>282077150
Blackbeard and Luffy will team up against Imu. Then Blackbeard and Luffy will fight each other. Luffy will realize cherry pies aren't so bad and they open the One Piece together.

>>282079915
>Skypeia
Yeah and the sun god was a giant snake

>>282079926
>anon thinks Luffy would ever fucking work with Blackbeard of all people
KEKAROO

Giants are THE jobber race
>Hajrudin gets 1 shot by Luffy, when Caesar Clown and Hody Jones at least took multiple punches
>Even after, Hajrudin can BARELY beat Machvise who has like a 11 million bounty
>Oars Jr gets the shit kicked out of him by the Warlords and can't dodge shit
>Oars the first literally dies from wearing only a loincloth in the cold. Fucking Hannyabal can do that.
>Dory and Brogy both get KEIKAKU'D by Mr. 3 and can't even break his wax
>Oimo and Kashii get beat by 2 big sea animals and rando carpenters
>Saul gets insta-beat by Aokiji
>Wolf gets insta-beat by Garp
>Jorul has ancient giant blood (he's as big as Jarul who is 2x a regular giant in size) and is an experienced warrior, he gets 1 shot by a 5 year old Big Mom. And before you say "oh he's an old man", Whitebeard and Garp are both old men too and are insanely powerful
>John Giant and Lonz both get beaten in 1 hit by Whitebeard and don't even land a single attack on him. Meanwhile a bunch of other rando Marines were able to wound Whitebeard
Loki and Harald are like the only fucking giants that haven't jobbed yet

After witnessing a million jobbings, it is refreshing to see a new character who gets shit done for once. Knowing Oda however he will pull something out of his ass to make Rocks look like an idiot and Roger look like a hero.

>>282079919
It's fucking retarded that the WG had to send assassins after Doflamingo in Impel Down instead of just ordering a proper execution. Stuff his mouth with a seastone gag if they must.

>>282079797
>>282079805
>>282079894
What is totally fucked is i bet Oda gets these letters all the time but refuses to address it in an SBS

>>282079956
>make Rocks look like an idiot and Roger look like a hero
That is what will happen.

>>282079881
>it's pretty obvious
For retards maybe. Honestly I should make a collage of all panels where Doflamingo demonstrates some morals but for now I'll just give you picrel. Try and make Doffy out to be evil in this scenario. What would Saturn have done in his stead? What do you think?
Honestly back when Dressrosa was being released I was appaled but not to surprised people used to think this. But now that we have seen people of the caliber of Sommers, Saturn, or Garling I'm amazed people still believe Oda was speaking through Corazon's mouth. Truly low IQ.

>>282079956
and what if Oda doesn’t do any of that? will you issue an apology letter, or will you silently hate-read until the next segment of hype moments and aura?

>>282079962
that means every day is a possibility he makes the funniest chapter

>>282079956
What shit has gotten done??? Rocks has done nothing.

>>282079884
Sengoku ended up being the most successful out of everyone from Roger's era.

>>282079981
Oda ruined so many characters out of the wazoo. What makes you think Rocks would be any different?

>>282079889
most people don't actually give a shit about feats and only care about vibes and interpersonal relationships
it's not like you choose to like a character either, no more than you choose to like anything in matters of taste

>>282079962
Oh for sure. Why else would there be a Crocodile looking woman in the live action otherwise.
Regardless of whether it's true or not, he's playing with it and he loves it.

>>282079996
>most people don't actually give a shit about feats and only care about vibes and interpersonal relationships
how true is this for most of /opg/?

>>282078671
Oda redrew this? I liked the pencils.

so how likely is Wang Zhi the father of Caribou and Coribou?

>>282079915
Your argument is that because we knew the WG would be the main antagonist faction; introducing the ruler of said faction 21 years into the manga, then giving them 0 development for the next 7 years and for the foreseeable future, and then expecting that character to have the same character and therefore story depth as BB?

lol

If I were Oda I’d give Crocodile a scandalous double life. Used Ivankov to make him a man, romanced Tritoma who birthed Hancock. Became a women again and gave Dragon Luffy

>>282079997
>Regardless of whether it's true or not, he's playing with it and he loves it.
this

>>282079956
Canonically, advanced CoC users are weak to their sons being taken hostage

>>282079997
I think you're mixing two things up. Crocodile being a woman is something people actually consider seriously and most people thought of it themselves without even needing to read online stuff because it's kinda the first thing that comes to mind with Ivankov. Crocomom is the step-further that's considered shitpost-tier.

>>282079990
assembling the crew he did is a greater feat than most other top tiers already, let's not even mention the assassinating a navy admiral and infiltrating Imu's lair by himself

>>282080020
Kek you just want Luhan to be incest.
Meltdown to the power of two

>>282080038
its a package deal, anon...

>we finally get slopfag to be decent and adopt uniform filename so that we can filter him
>some retard starts reposting his shit without the uniform filename

>>282080026
do you think Viola misses Doffy's cock?

>>282080038
Not really, it's the simplest explanation as to why Crocodile repeatedly saved Luffy and was "in a terrible mood" after learning Luffy's lineage along with everyone on Marineford.

>>282080016
>same character and story depth as BB?
Imu's narrative importance is already obvious. He is the nigga behind all the bad shit going on in the world. Hell he is the reason the one piece world's geography is so fucked up in the first place. So, Oda doesn't need to delve too much into that.
Your point was "character depth" which I assume is the quality of the character's writing. Yeah no shit Oda has tons of things planned for Imu. Do you really think he doesn't? Kek. Just because we haven't gotten to Imu's character yet doesn't mean it won't be compelling. Its the same fucking reason why Oda has yet to show much of the character of Dragon, Mihawk, Garling, Shamrock and so on until the fucking endgame.
>for the foreseeable future
Imu is literally in Elbaph right now. We are still fresh off of Egghead and there is still years left until the final saga is over. Why the fuck do you think it is impossible for Oda to not flesh out Imu's character during that time? (especially when we know that Gunko is going to get development this arc too and she has an important connection to Imu being his handmaiden)

>>282080063
Luffy's is bigger

>>282080067
Retarded theory
Ivankov didn't knew Luffy and that Dragon has a child.

>>282080067
Could just be that Crocodile was a scorned lover of Dragon’s and lost the dragonbowl to Tritoma who birthed the first Male Amazonian of legend that will be the prophecy of Nika’s return

>>282080009
I bought fifty euros worth of food for my cat yesterday and that's what it felt like.

>>282080038
>most people thought of it themselves
My first thought was Crocodile dated/fucked Ivankov without knowing that he's an okama

>>282080012
Buggy is son of Shakky and Wang Zhi

>>282080075
the problem with the imu argument, from a narrative perspective, is that luffy has NEVER cared about the larger goings on in the world. yes to us the readers, and to the people in the story, the battle of good vs evil, freedom vs oppression, the celestial dragons vs the lost kingdom, is something that has been going on for hundreds if not a thousand years
luffy doesnt care

oda has done a pretty good job so far of telling two stories at the same time - luffy's story of action and adventure to become a pirate, and the story of the larger freedom vs oppression

luffy vs imu works in one story - the thousand year battle between freedom and oppression. but isnt as strong in the other story - the action and adventure story

luffy vs blackbeard satisfies both, as blackbeards vision of piracy is "freedom" but in a warped sense... freedom for himself and the "strong", but at the expense of others.

my bet is blackbeard defeats imu and usurps the throne, then its luffy vs blackbeard in the final battle

>>282080078
But Luffy one belongs to Nami only

>>282080055
Crocogurl bros have bad reputation because of people like you.
>>282080067
Actually the simplest reputation is him seeing a younger himself in Luffy and starting to root for him, which ties back to their original meeting (talking about rookies who talk big but are unprepared to face the real world, which in the conext of Impel Down revealations was clear talking about himself). Heck, Croc could also have been just a memeber of Revos at some point and although he abandoned them, retained respect for Dragon and did him a favor. Both theories are simpler than Crocomom.

>>282080082
? Why on earth would he know him?
Even if he helped deliver Luffy (veeeery unlikely) it's not like he would recognize a baby he saw 18 years ago. And I see no reason why Crocodile would tell him who the father is or even that he had a child.

Garling is final villain of one piece

>>282080108
Make it cooler, Imu body hops to Blackbeard. Blackbeard controlled by Imu, Luffy already fights with Nika

>>282080012
Yes.

>>282080094
Buggy is the other son of Rocks, you fool.

>>282080133
>Let me ignore every logic for my troon theory
Kill yourself tranny

>>282080127
That makes no sense though, if it were that Ivan would know and he wouldn't be surprised by his actions.

>>282080127
>Crocogurl bros have bad reputation because of people like you.
or maybe you take the stick out of your ass and have some goddamn fun
>>282080136
nah that wouldnt be cool at all
blackbeard has been one step ahead this whole time because he is "metagaming" the run to being the pirate king. he probably already knows about imu, knows rocks couldnt beat imu at the time, and has a plan to win.

Blackbeard will usurp imu, take imu's power, and become the new "god of darkness" and "king of the world"

>>282080108
Luffy doesn't give a shit about most of the villains he fought in this story either kek. Why do you people assume that Imu needs to always be on Luffy's mind in order for him to be the final antagonist? That was never a fucking requirement in any big shonen manga. Neither was it ever required for the final antagonist to be shown early on in the story (look at fucking Ywach).
Luffy is going to meet Imu this arc and this will obviously not be their final confrontation. Imu is going to threaten every single one of Luffy's friends in the entire world as well as Vivi (who is a Strawhat herself pretty much). By the time Luffy learns about the truth of the void century, he will already be very fucking mad at Imu for hurting his loved ones (it doesn't matter if he gives a shit about the 1000+ long war or not, that's irrelevant).

>>282080151
>no answer
I'm not the one who abandonned logic first kek

>>282080161
>or maybe you take the stick out of your ass and have some goddamn fun
I'm not against shitposting, it's okay, and that's what Crocomom used to be. But now there's a lot of people who started believing in it for realz.

Davey Jones had the Yami DF that's why Blackbeard wanted it so badly. And that's why when Thatch found it he Blackbeard knew he was chosen him to fulfill Davey Jones will. No wonder Blackbeard believes in fate so much guy survived God Valley and the Yami chose him. Pretty clear the 2 DF Rocks wanted we're the Yami for himself and the Nika DF for Harald. Imu will also show up.on God Valley through Gunko to finally kill Rocks. But Davey Jones who's lurking inside Teach will absorb Rocks soul.

>>282080135
I certainly hope so because he's the most alluring and charismatic out of all endgame tier villains we got. The fact that he's more recent and therefore more mysterious than both BB and Imu who have been there for a long time lends itself to that theory well too.

>>282078806
If Ivankov gets subjected to seastone would he turn back to a girl

>>282078470
remember sabaody archipelago very close to mary geoise and often visited by celestial dragons for buying slaves. and full scale battle there could destroy the archipellago and shockwaves could effect mary geoise. not to mention a full scale hunt for him could be seen by literally anyone with eyes and evaded

>>282080169
>Luffy doesn't give a shit about most of the villains he fought in this story either kek
yes that's my point. great job kiddo.
>Why do you people
what do you mean "you people"?
>assume that Imu needs to always be on Luffy's mind in order for him to be the final antagonist?
because it's about choosing the narratively stronger option
>Option A: Guy who was introduced as the foil to luffy and polar opposite to him, rival to being the pirate king, and killed his brother
>Option B: A shadow that was just introduced
hmmmmm
> Imu is going to threaten every single one of Luffy's friends in the entire world as well as Vivi (who is a Strawhat herself pretty much)
Yeah I'm pretty sure Vivi is going to get captured at some point and Luffy will have to make a choice between making a final run at the One Piece or turning around and saving his friends.
Of course, we know what he'll choose.
>it doesn't matter if he gives a shit about the 1000+ long war or not, that's irrelevant
also my point

>>282080189
Why would the Nika fruit be best used by a Giant? And how the fuck is Davy Jones "inside" Teach in the first place?

>>282080176
Yeah I do, and I love that it irks you.

>>282080189
The Yami Yami no mi being another Mythical Zoan Creepy Sea Boogeyman will make me question Odas writing

>>282080127
>Croc could also have been just a memeber of Revos at some point and although he abandoned them, retained respect for Dragon and did him a favor.
this is my actual theory, he still was a woman btw.

>>282080092
hope your kitty enjoys their meals.

>>282080220
as soon as luffy's fruit got retconned into being the sun god fruit the fate of the Yami Yami no Mi was sealed

>Jinbe calling Who’s Who a racist for saying “I’m surprised a fishman can move so fast on land”

What a little bitch. What’s next? Getting offended at somebody pointing out that fishmen have webbed fingers and toes?

>>282080232
Finned, fin web and toes you fucking racist

>>282080234
page one is such a homo

>>282080232
ahem

>>282080251
I got it 4chan

>>282080220
Foreshadowed by it not having the typical logia properties btw

>>282080007
ah, yes, i remember viola having three breasts. and what even is that claw on the other tit?

>>282080256
#NOTALLFISHMEN

Smoker's fruit is the worst logia right

>>282080208
>what do you mean "you people"?
I've seen many people prop up say this shit, not just you.
>Yeah I'm pretty sure Vivi is going to get captured at some point and...
Yes, absolutely, and that will obviously happen after the laugh tale arc as the final war begins with the discovery of the one piece and Luffy being crowned pirate king.
>Option B: A shadow that was just introduced
Kek now you're being ridiculous. Imu obviously has parallels with Luffy as well. Blackbeard and Luffy are character foils to each other but not opposites. But Imu and Luffy are total thematic opposites to each other as well. And that's not mentioning how their powers are the opposite to each other as well (Imu is literally the fucking devil and Luffy is Jesus basically kek). So saying Imu is just a "shadow that was just introduced" is completely retarded downplay of his character (also he has been in the story for a long time now so he wasn't "just introduced").
Just because Luffy has a personal beef against BB doesn't make him necessarily make him narratively stronger. You can apply that same logic to fucking Akainu but we all know he isn't worth shit kek (now that I think about it, doesn't Luffy give MORE of a shit towards Akainu rather than Teach?). You're also ignoring the thematic parallels between Imu and Luffy as well as their hero/villain relationship which is only just beginning this arc and will only develop as the final saga goes on.

>>282080256
Excuse me, that’s a Molluskman

>>282080232
>you people are a slave race right, tell me about the slave god Nika
>you move quick for a figger
>wtf why so offended

All those words... no asses posted.
Oda-先生 would be so disappointed by this schizo thread. He loves pussy and girls.
Kys homos

>>282080216
>I like my theory... because it's dumb and no one likes it!
I guess you do you, anon...

>>282080297
If it's so dumb how come you smarter people never managed to bring evidence it's impossible?

>>282076057 (OP)
Reminder
While Garp was on vacation with bitch and whore, his son got drafted into genocide festival

>>282080315
trannies in Oda's mind are based beyond belief?

>>282080315
>courageous, high minded, visionary individuals who are extremely loyal to their friends and based if a bit overbearing
Oh yeah, what an awful depiction

>>282080294
I want to tongue stussy's asshole

>>282080328
You could become a billionaire today with this ability in our society

>>282080328
Fuck wish it was me. I'd be such a slut

>>282080344
...said absolutely nobody.

>>282080284
>Yes, absolutely, and that will obviously happen after the laugh tale arc as the final war begins with the discovery of the one piece and Luffy being crowned pirate king
naaaaaaaaaaah that's weak
luffy being "crowned" pirate king is likely never going to happen literally, and if it does would be the very last thing
my money is on blackbeard getting there first. he's been ahead of luffy this whole time. luffy is going to come up from behind.
>Kek now you're being ridiculous. Imu obviously has parallels with Luffy as well
No I'm being serious and you trying to play it off isn't really working.
Imu is from the "old" generation. If we track the history of this war through the generations -
>Some "pre-history" conflicts depicted in the mural involving Nika (Sun God), the God of the Earth, etc
>Joyboy, Davy Jones, Imu (probably reincarnating through the generation by possessing Lili)
>Roger, Rocks, Imu (again reincarnating)
>Luffy, Blackbeard, Imu (again reincarnating)
Luffy's final fight, the antagonist of Luffy's journey towards the pirate king, would be most narratively strong against a contemporary. Imu is a holdover from the past conflicts.
>But Imu and Luffy are total thematic opposites to each other as well
This is my point though - they ARE opposites, and that works on one narrative level (the thousand year war of freedom vs oppression)
But Imu doesn't satisfy BOTH narrative requirements (the action adventure pirate story)
Blackbeard does
>So saying Imu is just a "shadow that was just introduced" is completely retarded downplay of his character (also he has been in the story for a long time now so he wasn't "just introduced"
Yeah I memed a little bit but let's be honest relative to blackbeard Imu was definitely "just introduced"
>Just because Luffy has a personal beef against BB doesn't make him necessarily make him narratively stronger.
Personal stakes by definition make stronger narratives.
(1/2)

>>282080312
Garp: The next child I’ll raise to focused on power and ability alone and skip the morals stuff.
That clearly didn’t work out for Dragon.

>>282080284
(2/2)
>You can apply that same logic to fucking Akainu
Yes you can and we'll probably cross that bridge at some point too.
>You're also ignoring the thematic parallels between Imu and Luffy as well as their hero/villain relationship
I'm literally not how many times have I fucking said that Luffy vs Imu represents the thousand year war between freedom and oppression?

My whole original point is that Oda is telling two parallel stories at the same time and weaving them together.

Luffy vs Imu is one story, and does work.

Luffy vs Blackbeard is stronger because it tells the same story as Luffy vs Imu (freedom vs oppression), while ALSO tying in personal stakes in the pirate adventure story of the race to be King of the Pirates

also adding kek to everything to try and downplay stuff doesnt make you cool kek

Shamrock is going to jump ahead of Blackbeard as Luffy’s final adversary once he kills Shanks lmao

>>282080421
Shamrock is Snape to Shanks's Dumbledore.

>>282080372
also before some sperg points it out it's probably not "reincarnation" per se i just used that as a term to indicate that Imu the same entity is appearing in each generation while the other respective forces (Nika/Joyboy/Roger/Luffy, and whatever Davy Jones is going to wind up representing) cycle through other people

Imu is probably immortal or a straight up demon to some degree and probably possesses people to stay rooted to the mortal plane or something

>>282080421
>>282080433
I would love this I can't lie. Much better than BB or Imu.

>>282080433
>its implied that Luffy will have to surpass shanks to become Pirate King
What’s more fitting than Shanks genetic double

>>282080372
>luffy being "crowned" pirate king is likely never...
Becoming the pirate king is just a stepping stone to Luffy's true dream. And we already know laugh tale won't be the final arc for many reasons anyways. So Luffy becoming the pirate king before the final war is not that crazy in the slightest.
>my money is on blackbeard getting there first
Fuck no. There is no way Oda will make anyone except for Luffy (okay maybe Buggy, fine) reach Laugh Tale first. Besides Teach doesn't even have all 4 road poneglyphs and its unlikely that he'll be the first to encounter the Man with the Burned Scar.
>>282080401
>I'm literally not how many times...
Alright, fair enough anon. Perhaps I was being too hostile towards your points so I concede on that front. Still,
>pirate adventure story of the race to be King of the Pirates
>anon still thinks one piece was ever a pirate story
Very funny.
>also adding kek to everything...
Its an unfortunate habit of mine. maybe I should fix it by leaving this place...

>>282080366
Hi, I'm absolutely nobody.

>Go to reddit
>I get shit on for defending the marines
>Go to tiktok
>I get shit on for defending the marines
>Go to 4chan
>I get shit on for defending the marines

why everyone hates us

Could Garp do this to Zoro?

Where were you when you realized that GODrudin, the future King of Elbaph, will surpass Loki and become Admiral level by the end of this arc?

Loving the fact that Dragon is there at God Valley, experiencing his moral crisis. Hope he has a role to play. Not necessarily like a crazy fighting feat, just a right place, right time, right decision type of deal.

>>282080479
Marinefags brought it onto themselves with consolewarfaggotry that is admiralfags vs yonkofags.
>telling retards to stop being retards
>they keep being retards
>No longer sanction retards tomfoolery

>>282080485
nice skirt, jobrudin

>>282080485
Loki will be the King of Elbaf, Hajrudin will be the King of Giants. Kinda like Shogun and Daimyo in Wano.

>>282080484
yes

>>282080496
how do you think that shanks was able to be picked up by roger's crew?

>>282080443
I would have prefered Shanks himself I can't lie. I love that Shamrock exists but it's also a clear sign Luffy is never gonna fight Shanks despite all the set up there is for it.

>>282080496
He's now going to try to save Shanks and Shamrock, though he'll fail with the latter.

>>282080328
I get it's magic in the end, but his beard should fall out instead of regressing since it was "hormones" that changed his body

>>282080485
Loki will be King of Elbaf and NOT JOINING. Hajrudin will support Luffy out at sea as Grand Fleet Captain and take part in the Final War.

>Fuck...this blonde fat-ass is...t-too much for me...!!
>FATHER! BROTHER! LEND ME SOME ACoC, THIS IS BASE MACHVISE I'M UP AGAINST!

>>282080509
Yeah I'm curious how that happened. Was it a mistake, a last minute clutch, a miracle, a failed negociation?
I wonder if Dragon still beats himself up over it.

>>282080328
>Wha... What did you do to me?
>I took away your testosterone. You can't use it to hurt or threaten anyone else ever again.

>>282080533
Loki please, stop bullying your big brother.

>>282080479
Chadmirals don't need popular support. We are the rightful rulers of these threads. It's simply irrefutable.

>>282080533
He had a 111M bounty, that isn't anything to sneeze at

How strong would Loki have been if he was breastfed by Estridd?

>>282080479
You are just on the wrong side of the history.

>>282080539
I doubt a 17 y/o Dragon can do anything against the likes of Garling. It might have been that he managed to get to the center of the island, put one baby in a chest so no one sees them, but by the time he was trying to put the other one in another chest, Garling appeared.

>>282080555
Hajruding, you're drunk and seeing double, it was 11M...

>>282080565
>a 17 y/o Dragon can do anything against the likes of Garling
Anon...he is Luffy's father. Don't be surprised if Oda makes him really fucking strong at that age like maybe he was already Kaido level.

>>282080565
>>282080584
Baby Loki was falling from sky island like adult Kaido and kid Linlin soloed the giants. Oda doesn't give a fuck about age

>>282080584
I get that people are starving for Dragon feats but this isn't the place for it to happen. A 17 year old amongst all the top tiers of the era. Show his strength of character and moral resolve instead.

>Dragon was called the "World's Worst Criminal" for a reason yet to be revealed
Wait...bros, what if it was because he "stole" baby Shanks from his father somehow? I know this sounds retarded but maybe Garling was really pissed off at him for doing it.

>>282080555
>111m
You could earn this much post wano by farting on a portrait of a celestial dragon

>>282080584
>Don't be surprised if Oda makes him really fucking strong at that age like maybe he was already Kaido level.
It's insane how delusional dragonfags are, he was already wounded in the last panel, prob almost jobbed to a random civilian

Has the giants legitimized Mother Caramel as a saint yet

>>282080479
AMAB except Koby

>>282080584
Luffy's generation is an exception, all the other top tiers only really got great middle-aged. And with how power-upping works, a rookie could never be strong if only because of the "haki blooms in adversity", and Dragon would simply not have any opportunity to truly grow beforehand.

>>282080220
How are you NOT questioning any of his writing post TS?

>>282080612
That would actually make sense yeah.

>>282080675
There are shittier Mangakas out there

it's so crappy Oda wants to establish token white guy Sanji as the third strongest of the crew, so cool characters like Yamato or Loki can never join.

>>282080685
But he's 4th strongest.

>>282080685
sanji is franco-german

>>282080693
1uffy
2oro
Jinb3
S4nji
It just fits.

>>282080693
sanjeets our response?

>>282080699
I never saw him wear socks in his sandals though, I call bullshit.

>>282080685
>Yamato
Is not cool.
>Loki
But he will join? Unfortunately will get nerfed like Jinbro but that's whatever

>>282076057 (OP)
AND HIS MOST LOYAL MAN
WANG ZHI
WHOSE SON CARIBOU WILL BE MOST LOYAL TO BLACKBEARD

HUZZAH!

>>282080684
Sure but that doesnt excuse his shit. That's whataboutism tard kun

>>282080652
AMAB especially Koby.

>>282080685
They're free to join, Sanji will just instantly powercreep them like he did to Jimbei and Franky

>>282080699
Sanji is polish.

>>282080706
pls no bully

Which of these characters look/will look the ugliest?
>Wang Zhi
>Kaido
>Orochi
>Wadatsumi
>Trebol
>Imu

>>282080693
>>282080705

>>282080728
>always listens to women
Yeah, I think so.

All i know is Vinsmoke Romeo wipes the floor with Ryuma. Wouldn't be too far fetched to see their descendants with the same fate and power levels. And Gaban was always 2nd strongest.

>>282080741
>Vinsmoke Romeo
>Ryuma
Neither were confirmed to be from the void century nor have anything to do with Joyboy. We don't even know if they were from the same era either.

>>282080738
Why'd she say that?

This Celestial Dragon comes from the Shepherd family.

Will we see an ugly Figarland? Garling's younger brother or cousin?

>>282080725
It's fine it's not like he can actually achieve that anyways.

>>282080772
Blackbeard, stop posting your fapfolder.

>>282080722
So what you malding bitch. There are worse offenders in the industry and they don’t have the hellscape overclocked burnout tenure like Oda and people still consume such slop. I’m okay with one piece my dude, you can seethe though

>>282080176
You are almost 40 years old

>>282080685
>>282080726
Remember when Robin used to be a 'high' tier?

>>282076305
Worst i can think of is Imu finding a way to Reverse Domini him. But in this case Xebec would still be a good guy mindcontrolled

>>282080769
>copypasting posts from previous threads

>>282080778
No, you will look at it and you will like it

>>282080802
Ignore CDfag, he does it every thread and he's been at it for months. It's always something about CDs, CDs wife, CDs children, CDs slaves...

>>282080800
I doubt Imu can do that to Rocks. Oda will probably find a different way to paint Rocks was the bad guy.

>>282080612
>for a reason yet to be revealed
are you dense? He's a revolutionary. He's actively trying to topple the world government

>>282080809
is this after the top surgery or does he have his tits strapped?

>>282080652
>assigned male at birth except koby

koby was born a girl and then changed into a boy?

>>282080846
kys kys kys kys

>>282080706
jinbe already peaked, sanji will surpass him. Probably already did on Wano

>>282080853
yes

>>282080780
>n-n-NOOOOOO you're not allowed to criticize my favorite author's questionable retcons and writing decisions because he's s-s-super burnt out and stuff
>uhhhh o-other mangaka aren't as burnt out as my GODA yet they still churn out way worse shit!!!
>s-seethe!!!
Looks to me you're the only one here seething, tard buddy kun.

>>282080799
She was always in this weird tier where everybody trusts her to take care of herself but nobody actually considers her to be a major fighter of the crew and she doesn't get big fights. You could argue it's because fighting is not her main trade but neither is fighting Sanji's. You could also argue it's because her power is too gimmicky and therefore it's either a one shot or an instant loss (which was proven wrong in Wano btw). Really I think it's just because she's a woman and Oda cares more about glazing Sanji and Luffy.

>>282080816
I'm still mad they didn't keep that dog as their pet

>>282080868
That happend already in Wano when Sanji took out Queen. Jinbei is the same as Franky and Robin where they become useless upon joining

>>282080886
That would be you thoughbeit replyingAIDAkun

>>282080496
He'll be like Koby at Marineford but not a bootlicker.

>>282080856
sorry but the live action is canon, Koby is FTM

>>282080886
>i read 1200 chapters of the manga I hate
stop shitposting

>>282080816
>6 Billion Beri JACKPOT!

>>282080799
Nami is currently stronger than her btw

>>282080853
>assigned male at birth
Kek I didn't even notice while typing it
But yes, sure, why not

>>282080934
Only in offensive power. My waifu Robin still is better when you factor in DEF, HP, and Speed

>>282080559
Weaker because he didn't go through enough pain.

>>282080954
she's not your waifu

>>282080908
>the actor is the character
imagine being this retarded. I hate trannies and fake "they/thems" too, but your complains should at least make sense

>>282080909
Criticism and having legitimate questions about how the series has developed isnt hating, tardbro. You'd have to be criminally underage to not understand something this basic

>>282080973
He just wants to shitpost and create fake outrage over trans people, don't take him too seriously.

>>282080734
Weevil > Orochi > Raizo > Trebol > Vasco > Moria > Big Mom > Wang Zhi > Kaido

If we're talking ugliest fuckers

>>282080973
>wasting your hate on frivolous things instead of saving it for what matters, like a guy coming at you with a gun

>>282080998
There are trannies that come at you with a gun though. There are plenty in OP too

>>282080990
shut you mouth you retard, you didn't even said anything valid, saying
>x bad
wont' make you look like a super smart star critic, kill yourself

>>282080934
Stolen valor from BM.

>>282080799
She's more of an assassin than a fighter

>>282080816
>robin's waist

>>282081122
It's sexy?

>>282081122
perfect to hold with one hand