Thread 282138413

>character named "Envy"
>plot twist is he... is LE JEALOUS of everyone else
I hate this dogshit writing.

>Character named "Wrath"
>He dies calmly with a content look on his face
>Character is named "Greed"
>He dies having already gotten what he wanted
>Character is named "OP"
>He's a massive faggot
Wow...

You're a special kind of retard if you thought it was a twist.
Get off your phone while watching next time.

>>282138495
Both the manga and the anime definitely treated it like it was a big reveal, kek.

>>282138413 (OP)
Also, he's green!

envy is wanting what someone else has. jealousy is fear that someone is stealing what you have.

>>282138413 (OP)
nigger how is that a plot twist it's literally his name

>>282138413 (OP)
>character is named agni
>he's on fire for most of the manga
What causes this

>>282138479
You're calling OP superstraight with this one

>>282138413 (OP)
Pathetic, but he fulfilled his role in the show. Capoeira Envy is still the best Envy tho

>>282140854
>FMA
>good writing
That’s a funny joke when characters like Barry exist.

>>282138413 (OP)
Yes, you've figured out why 03 has better written homonculi.
Having them be the result of human transmutation and most connecting to various alchemist characters in the story added a huge layer of depth to each and every one of them.

Take 03 Envy for example, He's the shemale firstborn of Hohenhiem and thus considers itself the true child. This leads to massive resentment towards the Elrichs and gives the character its namesake without making it a one dimensional character.

Brotherhoods take on Homunculi just sucks ass. They're parasitic philosopher stones instead of artificial humans and the "Fragment of human flaw" concept makes them shitty by default.

>>282141256
>One character in the show's poorly written, therefore the entire show is...LE BAD
Do zoomers really...?

>>282138413 (OP)
It wasn't a twist to the viewer. It was a calm discovery to the cast.
>>282138737
Oh shit. I didn't even put that together.

>character named "Envy"
>actually incites lust in people

>>282138413 (OP)
He's not jealous, he's envious. Jealousy is when you worry someone will take what you have. Envy is wanting what someone else has. What he feels is envy.

>>282142131
I am glad you fully admit Barry is poorly written, but he’s not the only one.

>>282139746
That's his point.

>>282138413 (OP)
>character is called full metal alchemist
>its actually his brother is made entirely of metal
I hate this dogshit writing.

>character is named gluttony
>he likes eating
What the fuck were they thinking with this writing?

>>282142584
What's wrong with Barry

>>282143117
>named Barry
>isn't a fruit

>>282143117
He's... Le jokey side character without much depth, which is clearly bad writing, because... It just is, okay??

>character named Lust
>has sex hair and big knockers that induce lustful feelings
Yes.

>>282138413 (OP)
What should his plot twist be?

>le dogshit
retvrn

>>282144119
That he's actually not envious at all.

>>282138413 (OP)
Do you know what a "twist" means? The character is named "Envy". He's incredibly envious. That's not a twist. That's literally his name.

>>282142054
God, `03 had such edgy trash writing.

>>282145048
Why should that be the case

>>282138413 (OP)
That wasn't a twist
That was just the conclusion of his character

>the character is named sloth
>she doesn't display any laziness

>the character is named full metal
>he is like 20% metal at best

>>282145048
>Le subverted expectation!
Even worse

>the character is named lust
>doesn't fuck anyone

>>282138413 (OP)
Funny schizo is that you?

>>282145352
It's very much implied that she does

>>282145172
Because it's a twist.

>>282145492
Name 5 characters she fucked

>>282146150
Why does it need to be a twist

>>282138413 (OP)
Idiot.

>>282146170
me 5 times

>>282146170
Hughes wife and daughter got fucked by her

Best version of the seven deadly shits?
If you say it’s these fucktards than you’re underaged and gay

>>282138413 (OP)
>plot twist is
Because its not a plot twist you fucking idiot

>>282145048
What should he be then.

>>282142054
>They're parasitic philosopher stones
They are not
>instead of artificial humans
But they are
>"Fragment of human flaw" concept
Its not a concept, they are literally that and Father literally tells so

>>282146232
I don't know. Ask Arakawa.

>>282146596
How about Envy is greedy and Greed is envois?

>>282145132
I wish I could get back the time I wasted watching Conqueror of Shambala.

>>282146845
No. It's clearly not meant to be a twist

>>282147129
Then she shouldn't have wrote it like one.

>>282147186
She didn't though?

>>282147301
Well, she did. Envy isn't revealed to be envious until right before he dies.

>character named "Scar"
>plot twist is he... has LE SCAR on his face

Your definition of twist is wrong

>>282148217
Were his parents like
>I will name this baby Scar just in case he gets a scar later in life and it becomes a fitting name

>>282138413 (OP)
>LE
Fucking stop doing this shit.

>character is named Father
>He is not really a father nor married

>characters name is strawberry
>hes a total fag

>>282148217
We know Scar has a scar when we first meet him. It isn't revealed that Envy is envious until way later.

>character's name is Pride
>he isn't gay or rainbow colored

How did the ironic fates go?
>lust is burned alive by a womanizer
>gluttony is eaten alive by pride
>sloth fades away the one time he tries to stand up (kinda weak imo because he was already shown to be mindlessly diligent, he would get ordered to dig til the end of time and he would just do it, so if he was ordered to fight that's what he'd do, he wasn't getting amped up or fighting for his own sake, so all I see here is him dying from sustaining lethal damage more so than any ironic action)
>envy commits suicide when called out (how ironic is this actually? Would there be a better way to have an ironic ending for the concept of envy?)
>wrath dies peacefully with a smile on his face
>greed sacrifices himself for others while admitting/realising he already had everything he ever wanted, good friends
>pride doesn't die, just gets humbled (although I don't know if the humbling in this case would come from being defeated by one of the humans it looked down upon, from his adoptive mom being everything that flashes before his eyes before dying instead of any of the homunculus things he was supposedly so proud from, or from being reborn into an average human child)
I get how some of these relate to father but others seem a bit disconnected, when they're all supposedly parts of him

>>282148972
>sloth
Overtaxed his stone and then crumbled away

>>282148972
I think there was also that most of them were beaten by people guilty of the sin they represented.

>>282148249
No we never learned his name, people called him that because of his scar

>>282147571
It's the conclusion of his character
It's not a surprise, it's just the best way for him to go out. His mask cracked and revealing that all along he's been exactly what he's pretended not to be.

>>282148972
I don't think they were supposed to be ironic, just thematically appropriate

>>282149401
>revealing that all along he's been exactly what he's pretended not to be.
How is that not a twist?

Shota Wrath or Fuhrer Wrath?

>>282141114
that doma guy i reckon

>>282148698
In what way? I thought Ed just used talk no jutsu to make Envy commit suicide. If Envy really Envy humans he would have taken Hughes wife as his own. 03 Envy was the half brother who envy Ed for looking like his dad

>named wrath
>actually a pretty chill guy other than occasional cold blooded murders
Why did the author even bother naming them after 7 sins

>>282149804
It's not, unless you don't understand envy to begin with. His hateful and self righteous attitude makes perfect sense for a deeply envious person, and his name is Envy after all. It's not supposed to be a new discovery for the audience, it's the fact that he's letting it be seen that matters.

>character named "Envy"
>plot twist is he... is LE JEALOUS of his brother
I hate this dogshit writing.

>>282150740
He's actually an extremely wrathful person. He's "chill" at all, he's restrained. And those murders are not cold in the slightest.

Is FMA:B the Stellar Blade of /a/, in that it brings out the schizo posters like no other?

>>282150740
Did you miss the part where he was trembling at Hughes' funeral, and it was because of barely-restrained rage at Hughes' crying daughter and not because he was sad?

>>282150849
He was one of the calmest homunculus. Always in control and composed. All killings he did were part of his mission

>>282138413 (OP)
When I was a young man I wanted to fuck Envy.

>named gluttony
>looks like the average american
I don't get it

>>282138413 (OP)
Even in thebearly aughts when FMA was viewing, the seven deadly sins angle felt contrived in a world without Christianity. The series would have been so much better if the Alchemy and theology of the world were expanded upon, especially since it takes such a scientific attitude to alchemy which cojncidentally defies reality.

You don't even have to mention Envy being written badly to talk aboht how dog shit the writing in FMA is, you can simply point to the cringe dialogue, and all the
>Edward he is... Le short
"Jokes" that are never once funny, or charning, or creative, fucking period, and make your point much better.

FMA doesn't even feel of the times, its got good ideas, Brotherhood has got good enough animation, but like all Japshit media, fails to truly explore its world, themes, or ideas, let alone creatively.

>>282150929
"In control" is not contradictory to wrath
Nobody without extreme anger issues would be physically shaking trying to hold in his urge to decapitate a loudly crying child at her dad's funeral

>>282151199
We all hate crying kids. Have you ever sat next to a crying kid on a flight? You would be equally angry and start fantasising killing the twat after 2 hours

>scene is supposed to be comedic
>isn't actually funny

>his surname is Armstrong
>he has strong arms
Bravo Tolkien

>uh so this gluttony guy is fat and always hungry
>then lust... a beautiful woman I guess
>uhh fuck this, I won't even try for the rest

>>282151333
It was something like a slightly clever pun in Japanese, since the audience isn't assumed to know what the names mean by default
In English it's where it starts just being silly
Also all the military guys are named after military equipment I think?

>>282151398
Did you only watch the anime while scrolling 4chan or something

>>282138479
Lol

>>282138413 (OP)
How is that a plot twist? Do you know what the word envy means?

>name is sloth
>is actually pretty fast

>>282151585
Sloth doesn't mean slow. It means lazy.

>>282151631
Then why this nigga can only move a few meters per minute

>>282151672
He lazy.

>>282138413 (OP)
just wanted to post best girl

>>282152200
>Producing a best girl has been a tradition of the Armstrong family passed down for generations!

>>282151672
they can actually move pretty fast when they want to
they just don't cuz they're chill af and basically better than than us in every way

>>282148972
Envy killed himself in a room surrounded by his worst enemies.

Seven deadly sins trope is overused and a excuse to have a group of main bads without needing to come up with unique individual motives and personalities.

>>282148972
Envy spent several arcs talking about how much better homunculus was than humans, but kills himself in the end saying how jealous he was of humans

>>282142054
Thank you for reminding me how fucking lame Envy is in 03, all his resentment is summed up in daddy issues and he’s hardly a character at that to the point of turning him into a retarded dragon (that somehow won’t undetected in that shitty movie) because they didn’t know what else to do with him.

>>282150847
This actually makes sense, I couldn’t help but laugh at this dumbass reveal.

>>282145425
Of course it is, who else is this stupid?

>>282150885
The funnyschizo isn’t the only one we have on /a/ but essentially yes.

Envy and jealousy are not the same thing though. This is important.

>>282138413 (OP)
>Over 10 years later and still makes /a/ seethe
Yeap. That's what being an iconic manga is all about.

>>282146603
They are parasitic philosopher stones. We are shown their creation twice, with Greed and then Bradley Wrath.

A philosopher stone secreted by father is placed in the body of a host vessel and the personality fragment of father takes over, except for Bradley Wrath based on his recollection of his upbringing prior to the stone entering his body.

>But what about Envy and Salem Pride?
Envy clearly has an inhuman vessel, possibly a chimera, Salem had a fetus as a vessel.

>>282138413 (OP)
Bait used to be believable.