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Anonymous No.282160734 [Report] >>282160963 >>282160966 >>282161053 >>282161074 >>282161089 >>282161556 >>282162525 >>282164607 >>282164765 >>282164844 >>282165426 >>282165476 >>282165525 >>282165590 >>282165820 >>282166035 >>282169231 >>282171312 >>282171632 >>282172646 >>282173167 >>282175856 >>282179155 >>282179270 >>282184618
Why is the magical girl genre filled with so much miserable suffering porn?
There's something distinctly sadomasochistic and unsavoury about the compulsiveness with which millennial culture churns out images of (often young) characters in states of traumatic dissociation and terror. All of this stuff suggests to me a real lack of appropriate emotional boundaries on the part of the creators of these shows- older kids television (with varying degrees of success) often dealt with 'serious issues' but there was always an implicit sense of adult stability and order, both in the world of the show, and metatextually, in the making of it.
With this stuff, however, I get the sense that the creators of these shows identify with their child characters in an inappropriate way- I get the sense that they identify with these characters in terms of their fear and vulnerability, and tend to project their own actually very adult fears and/or traumas (derived from very adult situations) into them.
There's no sense of a healthy border between the child world and the adult world- this border is supposed to be invisible from the point of view of the child audience but nonetheless present and maintained by the program- instead this audience is being exposed to and made to carry emotions and anxieties of the adult creators, who appear to conceive of their vocation primarily as a therapeutic exercise for themselves.
Anonymous No.282160782 [Report]
I'm surprised this wasn't copypasted from reddit
Anonymous No.282160963 [Report]
>>282160734 (OP)
>There's something distinctly buh bubhbuhbuhbuh *Normie moralizing*

Shut up, faggot.
Anonymous No.282160966 [Report] >>282161064 >>282165820 >>282166179 >>282175919
>>282160734 (OP)
Demographic shift. Modern mahou shoujo aren't made for little girls anymore.
Anonymous No.282161053 [Report]
>>282160734 (OP)
Anon you’re supposed to want to fuck the cute anime girls. What are you even babbling about.
Anonymous No.282161064 [Report] >>282168847
>>282160966
Anonymous No.282161074 [Report]
>>282160734 (OP)
Being a little girl is suffering
Anonymous No.282161089 [Report]
>>282160734 (OP)
The genre is reacting to the state of civilization which has fallen from the point where magical girls were essentially the church backing governments. The Hellenistic milieu gives us the clearest example of this where from the establishment of the oracles in the Bronze Age to their destruction by monotheism those drugged up teenage priestesses were handing out orders to kings and telling people where to found new cities. So important that you have to steal an oracle if you want to try to get things done without the support of their system. Shinto practices used to be suspiciously similar and the focus was individual village level priestesses rather than organized temple institutions, a historical tension depicted in Princess Mononoke. Coinciding with the erosion of magical girl culture is the rise of abusive patriarchy, another factor to which the genre is reacting in modern times.

Precure is what the world is supposed to be like, but our civilization is more like Madoka.
Anonymous No.282161556 [Report]
>>282160734 (OP)
It isn't. "Dark" magical girl shows are few and far between.
Anonymous No.282162525 [Report] >>282162804 >>282163924 >>282165339
>>282160734 (OP)
Madokas Megucas a merley a metaphor for male traits. Hardly any girl is a convinced social darwinist or roleplays as Shaow the Hedgehog to save someone else. Even Sailor Moon is more for grown up women than girls. The question is are magical girl shows is even for kids? Maybe pretty Cure and Doremi....
Anonymous No.282162804 [Report] >>282165509
>>282162525
>Madokas Megucas a merley a metaphor for male traits
Which is based, all anime girls should be like that. That sets them apart from the faggotry of 3DPDs.
Anonymous No.282163924 [Report]
>>282162525
Doremi is legitimately too real in some of the things they cover. I would have felt very uncomfortable if I had watched it as a young kid. Not the 4kids version mind you.
Anonymous No.282164607 [Report]
>>282160734 (OP)
it's just the flip side of "hopes and dreams"
Anonymous No.282164765 [Report]
>>282160734 (OP)
You interpret this as adults projecting their feelings onto kids but it’s really the opposite, these works are created by people who were forced to grow up too fast. The kids being forced into adult situations is the point, that’s what our own world does to kids every day.
Anonymous No.282164844 [Report] >>282165111
>>282160734 (OP)
I like seeing naive girls suffering
Anonymous No.282165111 [Report] >>282173958
>>282164844
I like seeing disillusioned girls healing
Anonymous No.282165339 [Report] >>282170595
>>282162525
>Even Sailor Moon is more for grown up women than girls.
Only the manga and it’s Crystal adaptation, 90’s anime on the other hand was for the Precure audience.
Anonymous No.282165426 [Report]
>>282160734 (OP)
>made to carry emotions and anxieties of the adult
And now you know why religion is bad.
Anonymous No.282165476 [Report]
>>282160734 (OP)
Because the alternative is the cookie cutter majou shoujo from <90s
Anonymous No.282165509 [Report] >>282165755
>>282162804
And this is why people call it "tranime".
Anonymous No.282165525 [Report] >>282169987
>>282160734 (OP)
>Why is the magical girl genre filled with so much miserable suffering porn?
Because the entire premise of the genre is unrealistic wish-fulfillment tripe, so there’s nowhere else to go but deconstruction and subversion if you wanna tell an actual decent story.
Anonymous No.282165590 [Report] >>282165667
>>282160734 (OP)
In Sailor Moon, it's just because the author had a dark sense of humor and thought it was funny (she later married Togashi).

In Cardcaptor Sakura's case, it's because CLAMP were basically the early 90s Japanese equivalent to Tumblr artists. That's why they were so gay and filled with dark shit.

In DoReMi's case, it's because it was a throwback to older Japanese kids' anime, which were dark as fuck.

When those are the three foundational pillars of modern mahou shojou, miserable suffering is baked into the genre's DNA. And that's not even getting into the pre-Sailor Moon stuff like Minky Momo or Majokko Tickle (the latter was Go Nagai's attempt at a magical girl anime aimed at very, very young girls. You can probably imagine how it turned out: Cute 99% of the time, then suddenly gets super real out of nowhere once in a while).
Anonymous No.282165667 [Report]
>>282165590
>In Cardcaptor Sakura's case, it's because CLAMP were basically the early 90s Japanese equivalent to Tumblr artists. That's why they were so gay and filled with dark shit.
CCS doesn’t really get suffering until the Clear Card arc, until then it plays the genre very straight.
Anonymous No.282165755 [Report] >>282165826
>>282165509
Yeah, it's mostly seething roasties using that term.
TERFs trying to attack trannies will always be funny because they're literally just as bad as the trannies themselves. Their only attack against them is "duuuurrr they're men" because everything that's actually bad about troons are things dykes and feminists do as well.
Anonymous No.282165820 [Report] >>282165859
>>282160734 (OP)
>>282160966
Funnily enough, old magical girls shows for little girls were far more degenerated and fucked up than modern dark magical girls for adults.
The average tranny complaining about madoka being too adult would have a stroke watching card captor.
Anonymous No.282165826 [Report] >>282165871
>>282165755
>TERFs
>Troons
You have to go back /pol/
Anonymous No.282165859 [Report]
>>282165820
CCS isn’t so much dark as it is just ultra perverted and fucked-up, because CLAMP.
Anonymous No.282165871 [Report] >>282165935 >>282165959
>>282165826
/pol/ didn't invent any of these terms
You have to go back to /lgbt/
Anonymous No.282165935 [Report] >>282166031
>>282165871
Just kill yourself, tourist piece of shit
Anonymous No.282165959 [Report] >>282166031
>>282165871
>You have to go back to /lgbt/
Do you even know where you are? You’re in a Magical Girl thread, this is the gayest fucking genre in the entire medium.
Anonymous No.282166031 [Report] >>282166068 >>282166151 >>282166726
>>282165935
But you're the one crossposting

>>282165959
Nah, megucas hate fags
Go back to the yurishit containment board or thread
Anonymous No.282166035 [Report]
>>282160734 (OP)
Isn't Madoka based on Kamen Rider? Like a lot of magical girl shows have super hero influence.
Anonymous No.282166068 [Report] >>282166606
>>282166031
>He thinks the entire genre is Madoka
Sailor Moon and Cardcaptor Sakura are held up as two of the most iconic LGBTQ franchises.
Anonymous No.282166091 [Report] >>282166458
There was some anime where jet fighters fought alongside mahou shoujo and I can't for the life of me remember which one it was. Can someone else remember?
Anonymous No.282166151 [Report] >>282166606
>>282166031
You’re an obvious tourist because you talk like every other brain rotted piece of shit from /pol/ and /v/ with an entire encyclopedia of terms that have nothing to do with anime. The only thing that occupies the empty space in your skull is hating queer people so you have nothing to contribute to this board.
Anonymous No.282166179 [Report] >>282167149
>>282160966
>Modern mahou shoujo aren't made for little girls anymore.
Early ones weren’t either, Studio Pierrot Magical Girls were made for the lolicon otaku crowd, and of course there was also Go Nagai’s Cutey Honey which was always intended for teenage boys and was a direct influence on the Sailor V and Sailor Moon mangas.
Anonymous No.282166431 [Report] >>282166561 >>282166729
Trying to break down demographics like that in the first place is kinda retarded imo.
All anime is made by adults for adults. Kids have no money, otakus and fujos will always be the biggest spenders.
Anonymous No.282166458 [Report] >>282166629
>>282166091
Vividred operation?
Anonymous No.282166561 [Report] >>282167020
>>282166431
>All anime is made by adults for adults.
The Kodomo genre exists, which a lot of Mahou Shoujo happen to be apart of, so you’re wrong there.
Anonymous No.282166606 [Report] >>282166654
>>282166068
By delusional retards maybe

>>282166151
You talk like tourists from /lgbt/ and /u/, hardly better
Anonymous No.282166629 [Report] >>282167110 >>282168994 >>282171352 >>282176208
>>282166458
That's the one, thanks a bunch Anon!
I'd really like to see more of this - the military actually doing things other than jobbing.
Anonymous No.282166654 [Report] >>282166758
>>282166606
>delusional
Yep it’s a tourist all right, tell me you haven’t watched or read Sailor Moon or Cardcaptor Sakura without telling me, or maybe you only saw their censored christcuck dubs.
Anonymous No.282166726 [Report] >>282166758
>>282166031
>megucas hate fags
Homu is such a raging faggot that she came a devil, what the fuck are you talking about?
Anonymous No.282166729 [Report] >>282167020
>>282166431
It’s literally an industry geared toward children and teens, the consumerist goldmine demographics. That’s why everything has grade and high schooler characters. That’s why even shows like Gundam and NGE are made to move plastic. There are some niches that get filled out by adult fans but when they try to fill seats in a theater in Japan they are going after teenagers.
Anonymous No.282166758 [Report] >>282166963 >>282167010
>>282166654
Minor plot points in some series don't make the entire genre about your mental illness

>>282166726
>She gave herself an obviously male-appealing succubus design, that means she's gay
Why are homosexuals the lowest IQ people on this planet? Is it because of the brown skin?
Anonymous No.282166879 [Report]
All magical girls think Hitler was right and wish the holocaust was real
Anonymous No.282166963 [Report] >>282167006
>>282166758
>Minor plot points
Two literal lesbian Sailors who are main characters and Sakura’s brother dating one of her guardians who was her former crush who her current bisexual boyfriend was also crushing on while her own best friend is secretly in lesbian love with her are hardly “minor plot points.” The entire fucking theme of CCS is that “all forms of love are valid” and CLAMP literally stated in an interview they wrote CCS so that people would become more tolerant of all the different types of love and families.

>don't make the entire genre about your mental illness
Both Sailor Moon and CCS are the flagship titles of the genre and are the face of it though, they represent the entire genre and are what most people automatically think of when you say “Magical Girl.”
Anonymous No.282167006 [Report] >>282167070 >>282167085
>>282166963
It's minor plot points because nobody thinks of that when you mention sailor moon or ccs
Anonymous No.282167010 [Report] >>282167084
>>282166758
You don’t even try to hide being a tourist from /pol/ just throwing in random racism on top of the sexism. The only thing you do is shitpost about your favorite topics from that echo chamber.
Anonymous No.282167020 [Report] >>282167085
>>282166561
>>282166729
Adults are the main consumers of all those genres. The people buying precure and pripara merch are male autists. The people buying gundam merch are fujos. The people watching all those highschool and isekai anime are salaryman.
Anonymous No.282167070 [Report] >>282167145
>>282167006
>It's minor plot points because nobody thinks of that when you mention sailor moon or ccs
Again, maybe if they only saw the straightwashed christcuck dubs.
Anonymous No.282167084 [Report] >>282167122 >>282167132
>>282167010
>muh ism
go back to tumblr, retard. I'm not the one making nonsensical statements like "devil character = gay" when succubus designs have been a trope since before your mental illnesses were invented and are aimed at straight men.
You're the one who doesn't actually care about any of the series you discuss and just use them to do like other libtards on twitter and spam characters with lgbt flags backgrounds "duuurrrrr sonic would agree with my politics!!!"
Anonymous No.282167085 [Report] >>282167145
>>282167006
>>282167020
Pure tourist bullshit lol
Y’all have been really desperate lately, even things like blacked spam are starting up since the board has been pulled out of your grasp
Anonymous No.282167110 [Report]
>>282166629
To be fair, even in real life the military does very little other than jobbing.
It takes a lot of contrivances to make them actually useful, specially in fiction.
Anonymous No.282167122 [Report] >>282167178
>>282167084
>complaining about tumblr and libtards on twitter
Tourist brain rot in its terminal stage
Anonymous No.282167132 [Report] >>282167178
>>282167084
>muh designs
Not the point, you fucking retard. But of course that's all you can go off of since you don't know the actual character.
Anonymous No.282167145 [Report] >>282167203 >>282167284 >>282167464
>>282167070
>straightwashed
You really need to kill yourself.
And no, no matter the country, not a single person instantly think of lgbt shit when they see sailor moon or ccs. They think of magical girls.

>>282167085
>accuses people of being tourists
>admits to trying to "pull the board out of their grasp"
Interesting
Anonymous No.282167149 [Report]
>>282166179
>Early ones weren’t either, Studio Pierrot Magical Girls were made for the lolicon otaku crowd, and of course there was also Go Nagai’s Cutey Honey which was always intended for teenage boys and was a direct influence on the Sailor V and Sailor Moon mangas.
This. The genre now targeting men is simply it coming full circle and going back to it’s roots if anything.
Anonymous No.282167178 [Report]
>>282167122
>Noooo you can't complain about me!!
Yes i can troon, lol

>>282167132
What IS your point then? Do you think every single devil character in media is gay?
And i know the character more than you do. As a matter of fact the author directly stated she wasn't gay.
Anonymous No.282167203 [Report] >>282167237
>>282167145
I’m not the one trying to do anything. Janitors have been trashing you scum as they should have been doing for a decade. Kill yourself back to /pol/, tourist.
Anonymous No.282167237 [Report] >>282167300
>>282167203
So you're admitting that the tranny jannies are trying to turn this place into a libtard echo chamber by censoring its actual userbase, and simultaneously calling us tourists?
Smartest homosexual everyone
Anonymous No.282167284 [Report] >>282167358 >>282168687
>>282167145
>Not straightwashed
What do you call shit like this then?
Anonymous No.282167300 [Report] >>282167355 >>282167358
>>282167237
You aren’t the actual user base, you hate anime which is why you come here to shitpost with these idiotic delusions.
The actual user base acknowledge the progressive messaging in anime and manga because they’re undeniable and constant.
Bored Anon No.282167333 [Report]
You are overthinking this SO much lmfao

Madoka Magica, which was using that suffering with a themathical purpose, was a cultural phenomenon and everyone is just trying to replicate the success it had. That's it. No pedophilic self-identification or anything. It's just usual capitalism
Anonymous No.282167355 [Report] >>282167387
>>282167300
>progressive messaging
It’s not that either and you’re just as much as a tourist as the anon you’re replying to if you actually think that’s the intention. It’s just fetishizing being gay for straight people, yaoi and yuri are fetish genres.
Anonymous No.282167358 [Report] >>282167578
>>282167284
Censorship or bad localization. "[thing]washing" is nu-male terminology

>>282167300
Calm down retard, i'm not the one who brought up "duuurrr tranime" and in fact this all started because i called out these people (anime haters) as the gay roasties they are, which you retards jumped to defend them.
>The actual user base acknowledge the progressive messaging in anime and manga
You are so fucking mentally ill it's unreal.
If you want "progressive messaging" in your media go watch western slop, it's full of this shit and that's why nobody likes it.
Anonymous No.282167387 [Report]
>>282167355
Not like yuri or yaoi are popular genres either. It's a niche within a niche.
Anonymous No.282167464 [Report] >>282168116
>>282167145
>And no, no matter the country, not a single person instantly think of lgbt shit when they see sailor moon or ccs.
You sure about that?

https://xtramagazine.com/culture/tv-film/anime-magical-girl-quuer-215553
Anonymous No.282167578 [Report] >>282167660 >>282168116
>>282167358
You reactionary pieces of shit are always the tourists lol
None of you ever create new media and you can’t form communities because you’re vile trash no one wants to be around. It’s the same with video games, you aren’t the actual user base and original fans. You’re all posers who have to force your way in and lie nonstop to try to get your revisionist takes accepted as a new version of the subculture due to your exposure to mainstream manifestations of that subculture.

The simple truth is that anime has always been gay and communist. That’s part of what makes it so great and it’s exactly why you tourists will never be able to fit in. You get all triggered by what’s really happening in anime and manga so you have to come up with these delusional coping narratives about western influence when everyone knows that “woke” content in western cartoons were the direct result of anime proliferating in the west. The causal relationship is the other way round. But you all know this terrifying fact and thus the desperation to create an anti-otaku framework for the west to insulate people from the real ideals and values communicated by otaku artists. It’d be so much easier if you all just gave up and excepted that otaku media is legit conversion literature and rage against all of it instead of trying to create an animegate delusion of “new western influenced anime.”
Anonymous No.282167660 [Report] >>282167838
>>282167578
>it's the resident mutt libtard schizo
Nobody likes your kind, mr champagne socialist. You are not and never will be a otaku.
Anonymous No.282167693 [Report]
One of the other ways you can tell that the reactionary tourists from /v/ and /pol/ are all posers is that the threads they spam to shitpost about popular shows is so focused on recent works. The FMA spam is one of the oldest shows to ever get talked about by the tourists. Even when they shitpost about NGE their focus is the rebuilds. It’s all knee jerk contrarian reactions to popular, mainstream series.
Anonymous No.282167838 [Report] >>282168116
>>282167660
Have you given up on posting screencaps of my posts because too many people agreed with me?
Anonymous No.282168116 [Report] >>282168560
>>282167464
>tranny schizo made an article in 2022
>this is somehow representative of the fanbases for shows that have existed for decades

>>282167578
>None of you ever create new media
We create the anime you consume.
Didn't read the rest, YTTL

>>282167838
You samefagging isn't too many people
Anonymous No.282168560 [Report] >>282168627
>>282168116
>implying it’s just one article
There’s more where that came from if you care to look.
Anonymous No.282168627 [Report] >>282168687 >>282168968
>>282168560
Why the fuck should i care what covid subhumans write?
Nobody reads that shit, and those shows have existed for decades without anyone obsessing over "duuurrr gay".
And not even all the shows listed have gay stuff in it, even minor. You yourself gave Madoka as a counter-example and it's on the fucking list somehow. Trannies like this just project their mental illness into whatever they can, they aren't representative of anything.
Anonymous No.282168687 [Report] >>282168735
>>282168627
Let me guess, you probably think the censorship the old dubs did like this >>282167284 was based don’t you?
Anonymous No.282168735 [Report] >>282168807
>>282168687
I don't watch dub, so i don't give a shit.
I think the error was marketing those shows towards kids when they were made for adults. If they weren't shown on kids channels censorship would be unnecessary.
Anonymous No.282168807 [Report] >>282168847
>>282168735
>they were made for adults.
>Sailor Moon 90’s anime
>made for adults
Yep, definitely a tourist kek.
Anonymous No.282168847 [Report] >>282168881 >>282169143
>>282168807
See >>282161064

Hell, the simple facts that sexual topics are mentioned proves it as well. Anime is for otaku.
Anonymous No.282168881 [Report] >>282168935
>>282168847
>sexual topics=adult
Americans are so sad
Anonymous No.282168935 [Report]
>>282168881
Japs agree with this as well retard
Don't tell me you actually fell for the japs are pedophiles meme
Anonymous No.282168968 [Report] >>282169055
>>282168627
Why should actual otaku care what a tourist like you thinks? Every opinion you express is an outright lie or delusion and everyone knows it. You talk about mental illness as if your mind hasn’t been melted away to the point that you rant about trans people all day every day. You fail to pretend to fit in because you’re compelled like a hollow machine by programming that demands you spread hate. You’re instantly recognizable because your speech patterns have become so stained by the echo chamber you’ve been dipped in that everyone has seen a dozen pieces of shit who say the same things already. And it’s all laughably wrong to anyone who is actually part of the community and knows the absurdity of every narrative you regurgitate. That’s why you can only keep up the flimsiest of pretenses in an anonymous space like this where it doesn’t matter that everyone figures out you’re a tourist every time you post, you can just keep coming back fresh.
Anonymous No.282168994 [Report]
>>282166629
IIRC, Strike Witches had some moments where the military helped the witches and didn't completely job, and Vividred was basically a spiritual successor to SW anyways.
Anonymous No.282169055 [Report] >>282169134
>>282168968
Trannies who write articles like this aren't otaku and neither are you
YTTL didn't read
Anonymous No.282169134 [Report] >>282169270
>>282169055
You’re a tourist lol
Just writing an article gives anyone more credibility as an otaku than scum like you who will never produce a single scrap of media or culture. You don’t even watch or like anime, this is all a game you do because you’re fighting in a culture war that says you have to pretend to be the victimized fan.
Anonymous No.282169143 [Report] >>282169270
>>282168847
What sexual topics were ever mentioned in the Sailor fucking Moon 90’s anime?
Anonymous No.282169231 [Report]
>>282160734 (OP)
Because adults started watching it
Anonymous No.282169270 [Report] >>282169372 >>282169405
>>282169134
>writing an article gives credibility
ok this is bait kek

>>282169143
Weren't you saying it has homosexuality
Anonymous No.282169372 [Report] >>282169424
>>282169270
>homosexuality is automatically a sexual topic and for adults
Then so’s heterosexuality yet I don’t see chuds like you calling for all the straight couples to be censored too hypocrite.
Anonymous No.282169405 [Report] >>282169424
>>282169270
Of course it does, that’s precisely how the otaku subculture was shaped through magazine writers and other forms of commentary from the community. Someone who watches, thinks about, and writes about anime is always more credible than a tourist like you who doesn’t even watch anime and gets all his talking points from an echo chamber of other people who don’t watch anime.
Anonymous No.282169424 [Report] >>282169448 >>282169508
>>282169372
Heterosexuality is normalcy, homosexuality is sexual deviancy. False equivalence fallacy

>>282169405
No, slop articles like this are only read by tourists
Anonymous No.282169448 [Report] >>282169486 >>282169538
>>282169424
>Heterosexuality is normalcy, homosexuality is sexual deviancy. False equivalence fallacy
Kay, doesn’t make a gay couple being mentioned or holding hands any more sexual than a straight couple doing the exact same thing though.
Anonymous No.282169486 [Report]
>>282169448
Heterosexuality is not only normal it is necessary.
Homosexuality is a sexual deviancy and has no purpose.
Anonymous No.282169508 [Report] >>282169538
>>282169424
Fanworks are integral to the subculture, you’re a tourist who doesn’t participate in the actual community of otaku because all of your opinions are just regurgitated slop from an echo chamber of other tourists who hate anime
Anonymous No.282169538 [Report] >>282169681 >>282169708 >>282169745
>>282169448
Holding hands isn't a sexual act and isn't gay in any context
Characters being mentioned to be gay is inherently sexual, it's like mentioning a character is dating his pet, you indirectly mention a paraphilia.

>>282169508
Your gay slop "TOP 10 ANIME FARTS" articles aren't fanwork
Anonymous No.282169681 [Report] >>282169788
>>282169538
>Comparing homosexuality to fucking beastiality
Yep, it’s a Christcuck alright lol.

Did you know that there are gay animals in the animal kingdom? Yet no documentation of animals being attracted to humans. Homosexuality is genetic and a normal evolutionary mechanism to prevent overpopulation, not everyone is meant to be reproduce, deal with it!
Anonymous No.282169708 [Report] >>282169788
>>282169538
Actually collections are one of the defined forms of folklore which in this case has fans as the folk group. Your tourist whining is irrelevant because you’re not a fan and you don’t produce any lore, you’re an outsider.
Anonymous No.282169745 [Report] >>282169788
>>282169538
>Holding hands isn't a sexual act
Maximum tourism
Anonymous No.282169787 [Report] >>282169825 >>282170035
I just think Sakura and Tomoyo should kiss is all.
Anonymous No.282169788 [Report] >>282169905 >>282169986
>>282169681
I'm comparing paraphilia to paraphilia yes
And you're retarded, inter-species relationships happen among animals too.
And guess what, in both cases, they also breed with the opposite sex, because it's just paraphilia, not an "orientation" like the rape victim Karl Heinrich Ulrichs thought.
>Homosexuality is genetic and a normal evolutionary mechanism to prevent overpopulation
What the fuck are you talking about schizo

>>282169708
I didn't mention collections

>>282169745
The only ones saying holding hands is a sexual act are /u/ tourists though
Anonymous No.282169825 [Report]
>>282169787
They should kiss me
Anonymous No.282169905 [Report] >>282169966
>>282169788
See as a stupid tourist from /pol/ you’ve now put yourself in the position where you have to pretend this board hasn’t equated hand holding with sex for longer than you’ve been alive.
Anonymous No.282169966 [Report]
>>282169905
No, you're the only pretending anyone but /u/ tourists have ever memed about that.
And yes, i said memed, because even they weren't serious.
Anonymous No.282169986 [Report] >>282170061
>>282169788
>What the fuck are you talking about schizo
I said what I said, what do you think would happen if EVERY single person throughout human history reproduced? The world is already overpopulated enough as it is, now imagine if we didn’t even have the concept of homosexuality to even compensate for that.

Resources and even sheer space aren’t finite anon.
Anonymous No.282169987 [Report]
>>282165525
it's always funny how deconstructionfags always torpedo their own arguments and usage of the made up term by their complete ignorance of genres
Anonymous No.282170035 [Report]
>>282169787
>I just think Sakura and Tomoyo should kiss is all.
CLAMP hates you yuritroons and CCS made it clear by cucking the two lesbians that it isn’t for you.
Anonymous No.282170061 [Report] >>282170089 >>282170592
>>282169986
Overpopulation is a scam to get you to give more power to your government and weaken your race so that you're easier to control
And everyone reproduced before, the reason why more people died was because of wars.
If you're worried about muh too many people then just nuke africa, india and china
Anonymous No.282170089 [Report] >>282170105
>>282170061
>And everyone reproduced before
Not homosexuals or trannies.
Anonymous No.282170105 [Report] >>282170136
>>282170089
Those didn't exist until recently.
Anonymous No.282170136 [Report] >>282170161
>>282170105
>Those didn't exist until recently.
Bro’s never heard of Ancient Greece or Rome, Conservatard Muricans really do have 3rd world level education tier.
Anonymous No.282170161 [Report] >>282170355
>>282170136
But all ancient greeks and romans bred with the opposite sex and had kids. What are you even talking about?
Anonymous No.282170355 [Report] >>282170393
>>282170161
>But all ancient greeks and romans bred with the opposite sex and had kids.
How would you even know that?
Anonymous No.282170393 [Report] >>282170507 >>282170561 >>282170707
>>282170355
They have written records.
Anonymous No.282170507 [Report] >>282170544
>>282170393
>They have written records.
And I doubt you saw those records, or that the records had a list of ALL of their citizens having children.
Anonymous No.282170544 [Report] >>282170581 >>282170771
>>282170507
I mean you can go ahead and prove me wrong by providing an example of someone from those times being vocal about not wanting children and not being attracted to the opposite sex.
Anonymous No.282170561 [Report] >>282170581
>>282170393
Of every person who ever scored?
Anonymous No.282170581 [Report]
>>282170561
See >>282170544
Anonymous No.282170592 [Report] >>282170622 >>282176042 >>282177944
>>282170061
>Overpopulation is a scam
I bet you think global warming and vaccination are a scam too don’t you anti-science retard?
Anonymous No.282170595 [Report] >>282170698
>>282165339
Season 1 literally ended with everyone but Usagi getting murdered
Anonymous No.282170622 [Report] >>282170707 >>282176158
>>282170592
"Expert" worship isn't science
Science is a method not a religion
It's something you do yourself, not something you trust a clergy about
Anonymous No.282170698 [Report] >>282184428
>>282170595
>Season 1 literally ended with everyone but Usagi getting murdered
Yeah, and angry soccer moms called up Toei to complain about how it traumatized their kindergarteners and they were all crying, forcing Toei to tone down all future season finales and never get that brutal or grimdark again.
Anonymous No.282170707 [Report] >>282170790 >>282178140
>>282170622
Yeah but the experts do the science and you don’t. It’s not a method with which you have any experience. You must trust experts because you’re too dumb to have your own opinions.

>>282170393
Including an entire genre of “tee hee I want to fuck that delicious boy servant” poetry
Anonymous No.282170771 [Report] >>282170790
>>282170544
People in ancient rome had to be forced by law to breed so clearly people weren't having kids.
Anonymous No.282170790 [Report] >>282170876 >>282170937
>>282170707
>the experts do the science
no
>you don’t
projection
>you’re too dumb to have your own opinions
projection
>Including an entire genre of “tee hee I want to fuck that delicious boy servant” poetry
written by people who had wives and kids

>>282170771
You're making this up
Anonymous No.282170876 [Report] >>282171005
>>282170790
You never use the scientific method. You are too dumb to ever research something and come to your own conclusion, which is exactly why you are an NPC who talks exactly like every other dumb cunt from the /pol/ echo chamber.
Anonymous No.282170937 [Report] >>282171005
>>282170790
Do some science to find the lex Iulia de maritandis ordinibus smart guy
Anonymous No.282171005 [Report] >>282171101 >>282171383
>>282170876
I use the scientific method constantly, you don't. You're the one who's unable to think for yourself or come up with your own shit because of your estrogen-filled brain.
Go ahead, tell me one opinion that's your own and i've never heard anywhere else.

>>282170937
>Temporary laws established when Rome was at its most degenerate and atheist, right before it got entirely converted to a brand new religion specifically because people didn't believe in anything anymore
Wow, that sure is representative.
Anonymous No.282171101 [Report] >>282171179 >>282171197 >>282171220
>>282171005
You’re a tourist whose foreign vernacular like saying estrogen filled brain demonstrates for everyone that you’re just another piece of shit loaded up with bullshit from /pol/. I have no reason to give you anything because you’re just a shitposting cunt who should get shot in the neck.
Anonymous No.282171179 [Report] >>282171252
>>282171101
shouldn't you be happy today instead of seething?
Anonymous No.282171197 [Report]
>>282171101
I've only read a few of your posts, but you sound like a twitter transplant. You are not wanted here, faggot.
Anonymous No.282171220 [Report] >>282171292
>>282171101
There's a reason why i said that though
Testosterone is correlated with independent thought
Estrogen is correlated with being a follower
Like you, who believes everything the media tells you
btw, i wasn't even familiar with the influencer you just referenced until his death, just another proof that you're wrong about me having NPC mentality or whatever. I don't give a shit about ecelebs like this at all.
But it's funny that you're mentioning this death as some kind of victory for you when the most likely culprit is Israel, which your programming dictates you to hate
Anonymous No.282171252 [Report]
>>282171179
Gatekeeping tourists is joyful community service. Do you know how hard I laugh when you post some bullshit that everyone can see is straight from /v/ or /pol/ while trying to pretend to fit in?
Anonymous No.282171292 [Report] >>282171374
>>282171220
Now that’s some pseudo-science lol
See the entire point is that otaku do not give a fuck about hormones and the only people who spout off rants about T and E are brain rotted losers from reactionary echo chambers.
Anonymous No.282171312 [Report]
>>282160734 (OP)
I think it's problematic that you're so retarded.
Japan will continue to make such anime. What's your point?
Anonymous No.282171352 [Report] >>282176039
>>282166629
Stretching mahou shoujo a bit, there's Senyoku no Sigrdrifa
Anonymous No.282171374 [Report] >>282171483
>>282171292
>reality is pseudo-science
lol
And otaku care about many things, of course we care about having independent thought and testosterone, otherwise we wouldn't be watching anime, which is a form of counter culture in the west.
Anonymous No.282171383 [Report] >>282171429 >>282171472
>>282171005
I accept your concession
Anonymous No.282171429 [Report] >>282171472
>>282171383
I accept your concession
Anonymous No.282171449 [Report]
>We
Anonymous No.282171472 [Report] >>282171505
>>282171383
>>282171429
When people say this do you think they have the self-awareness to know that it makes them and whatever point they're making look completely fucking retarded
Anonymous No.282171483 [Report] >>282171563
>>282171374
Otaku media is counterculture in Japan which is why and how it’s suffused with progressive messaging lol
Funnily enough counterculture provides a perfect example of what’s happening with you tourists because neonazis appropriated the skinhead look from the antifascist punk subculture. None of you are gamers or otaku, you just appropriate the identities since you right wing parasites can’t create any culture of your own.
Anonymous No.282171505 [Report]
>>282171472
No, they most likely don't. Which is why i usually say it back at them to make them feel retarded.
Anonymous No.282171563 [Report] >>282171625 >>282171686
>>282171483
>it’s suffused with progressive messaging
Do you think repeating this over and over will ever make it true? Because you're wrong.
"Progressive" horse shit isn't counterculture at all and it's 100% pushed and backed by western elites. You are useful idiots that do exactly what your masters are told, your "revolutions" are done entirely on their behalf, and will always result in things becoming better for them and worse for you and everyone else.
Anonymous No.282171625 [Report] >>282171639
>>282171563
What western elites are pushing yuri, yaoi and TS in doujin circles? Name them.
Anonymous No.282171632 [Report]
>>282160734 (OP)
Misery and suffering just come with deeper stories a lot of the time. The Japanese go all out when it comes to making stories about little girls. I realized this when reading some Illya earlier today. You don't get real story telling out of the Japanese unless it is centered around cute girls. But with those, they prove that they are very good and capable of doing it. It is the result of a culture that destigmatized this indulgence. They realized that cute girls make everyone happy and improve enjoyment. Every good artist full of passion wants to put one into their story. They feel no shame in doing it even if it is a bit "repetitive" or a special scenario has to be crafted around it. It is really no different than how the best Western stories tend to center around wacky characters.
Anonymous No.282171639 [Report] >>282171664 >>282171697
>>282171625
Black Rock
Crunchyroll
Anonymous No.282171664 [Report] >>282171699
>>282171639
Comiket was founded as an event to sell yaoi doujins.
Anonymous No.282171686 [Report] >>282171761 >>282172044
>>282171563
Do you think anyone feels bad when fascist dogs try to call them useful idiots backed by the elites and who do exactly as they’re told? Your vitriol and performative bigotry are the direct manifestation of you being the NPC drone programmed by an empire that runs on genocide for profit. You announce your own status as a disgusting and selfish animal openly because that’s what gets you clout in your echo chamber. In the real world, everyone just realizes instantly from the way you talk that you’re an evil piece of shit. That’s why no one will cry when it’s your neck.
Anonymous No.282171697 [Report] >>282171732 >>282171753
>>282171639
You don't even know what doujins are, do you?
Anonymous No.282171699 [Report]
>>282171664
Yeah because of the fujo niche
It only became popular when it broke out of that niche tho
Anonymous No.282171732 [Report]
>>282171697
If you're talking about doujins exclusively then those get made for opposite sex gaze, not for whatever western activism you support
Anonymous No.282171753 [Report]
>>282171697
Most of these tourists don’t even watch anime. Their knowledge of what to say in shitposts is entirely secondhand from what the /vpol/ echo chamber says about a show.
Anonymous No.282171761 [Report] >>282171774 >>282171816
>>282171686
>an empire that runs on genocide for profit
White genocide true
But you're the one supporting that tho
Stop projecting
>In the real world
Normalfag tourist
Anonymous No.282171774 [Report] >>282171798
>>282171761
You are falling for bait anon
This entire thread has been derailed because you keep falling for bait
Anonymous No.282171798 [Report]
>>282171774
I've already seen that guy, it's an ACK situation where even if it's bait he's still mentally ill for being so dedicated to it, so it's still funny to make fun of him.
Anonymous No.282171816 [Report] >>282171878
>>282171761
>white genocide true
>tho
Never has a more “12 year old brain rotted by the echo chamber on /pol/“ statement ever been made on this board lol
Anonymous No.282171878 [Report] >>282171986
>>282171816
But you're the one who mentioned genocide thoughbeit
btw ctrl+fing "echo chamber" brings 10 matches in this thread, maybe you should stop spamming the same exact sentence structures and expressions post after post because this makes my ACK comparison a bit too on the nose
Anonymous No.282171986 [Report] >>282172167
>>282171878
I use all sorts of uncommon phrases in my posts that would make it quite easy to assemble a huge collage from the archives. I’d cackle maniacally if you want to try to turn me into a shitposting boogeyman because I’m happy to have you talk about my posts on this board. Actual otaku agree with me, that’s why you stopped posting that one screencap. You can’t really threaten me with the boogeyman treatment when I know you’re the one afraid to do it.
All I really have to do post after post is point out that you’re a tourist from /pol/ and then you mechanically type some /pol/ shit because you’re triggered, and the entire thing proves exactly what I pointed out in the first place.
Anonymous No.282172044 [Report]
>>282171686
I can feel the seethe from this lmao
Anonymous No.282172167 [Report] >>282172242
>>282171986
I never posted any screencap though. Looks like you're also affected by Fregoli like ACK is.
And no "actual otaku" do not agree with you, schizos from normalfag sites will never be otakus
btw i haven't been a regular on /pol/ for years so you fail again, lolcow
Anonymous No.282172242 [Report] >>282172311
>>282172167
Everyone can tell you’re a tourist from that echo chamber because you talk exactly like every other tourist from that echo chamber. You don’t even try to hide it either since announcing yourself is part of the psychosexual release you get from shitposting. Plus you don’t even watch anime so you can only regurgitate these talking points from /pol/ as if they’re supposed to hold any meaning here.

Come on, don’t tease this bogeyman stuff if you aren’t going to give me a name and post screencaps of archived posts to make people aware of the mythology. You have to do the full song and dance or else it’s just boring ACK this ACK that.
Anonymous No.282172311 [Report] >>282172348 >>282172373 >>282172418
>>282172242
>I can tell you post on /pol/ by your posting style
>But i don't post on /pol/
>Instead of acknowledgeing i was wrong i will double down
Smartest libtard lol.
Btw, /pol/ is the way it is because 4chan is. Not the other way around. This will stay true no matter how hard you early 2010s newfags try to deny it. Every single attempt at having a political board in 4chan's history always ended up being exactly like /pol/. You will never fit in here
Anonymous No.282172348 [Report] >>282172372 >>282172373
>>282172311
Not him, but /a/ hated /pol/ before it was even /pol/. We called them stormfags.
Anonymous No.282172372 [Report] >>282172391
>>282172348
Only tumblrtards were seething at stormfags though
Anonymous No.282172373 [Report] >>282172420 >>282172463
>>282172311
>>282172348
Also, /pol/ got this way because your kind got literally banned from reddit and immigrated here.
Anonymous No.282172391 [Report] >>282172420
>>282172372
Nah, we all laughed at them, obvious reddit immigrant.
You have to go back.
Anonymous No.282172418 [Report] >>282172502
>>282172311
/pol/ was made as a containment board for people who were told to go back to Stormfront lol
You’re the definition of an election tourist pretending to be an oldfag. You will never fit in here because you don’t actually watch anime, you just shitpost about it because you have terminal brain rot that demands you have an opinion on anime as part of the western reactionary culture war.
Anonymous No.282172420 [Report] >>282172478 >>282172478
>>282172373
See that's something else that outs you as a newfag, 4chan has always been the place for people who don't fit in anywhere else, pretending it was either otherwise just proves you're a extroverted normalfag who wants to turn this place into a place for extroverted normalfags like twitter and reddit.

>>282172391
Are you aware of the fact that reddit is one of the most leftist places on the internet?
Anonymous No.282172463 [Report] >>282172550
>>282172373
Facebook too, /pol/ and /v/ became the echo chamber for normalfags banned from normal social media for being pieces of shit.
Anonymous No.282172478 [Report] >>282172526
>>282172420
>4chan has always been the place for people who don't fit in anywhere else,
MAGA shit is mainsteram and normalfag shit. I was on 4chan when it was still a hobby site instead of a website for an israel and china supporting political movement.

>>282172420
>he doesn't remember how MAGA actually took off on reddit

Anyway I'm done talking to retarded tourists.
Anonymous No.282172502 [Report] >>282172596 >>282173906
>>282172418
>/pol/ was made as a containment board for people who were told to go back to Stormfront
...by tumblr tourists.
It instantly became one of the most active boards because most of the userbase is like this.
Just like every previous attempt at having a political or news board ended up the exact same way.
>You’re the definition of an election tourist pretending to be an oldfag
But you're the one who immigrated from tumblr/reddit/whatever in around 2012 and think you know what board culture is
Culture shifted more in the early 2010s than in 2016 and in fact actual oldfags agree that the biggest cancer was 2012-2016.
Anonymous No.282172526 [Report]
>>282172478
You're the only person talking about MAGA
MAGA loves kikes, niggers and faggots
It's leftist
Anonymous No.282172550 [Report] >>282172623 >>282172661
>>282172463
If you fit in on "normal social media" then why do you post here?
Anonymous No.282172596 [Report] >>282172680 >>282173199
>>282172502
Your obsession with tumblr and Reddit is one of those laughable tells that marks you as an election tourist regurgitating bullshit from the /pol/ echo chamber. Everyone agrees that neonazis are the biggest cancer which is why a containment board was made to divert their organized raids and proselytizing. Anime itself carries that antifascist messaging too.
Anonymous No.282172623 [Report]
>>282172550
Anonymous No.282172646 [Report]
>>282160734 (OP)
my wife in the middle
Anonymous No.282172661 [Report] >>282172680
>>282172550
Where did I say that I use social media at all? I’m not some tourist from /v/ and /pol/ that loves posting twitter and youtube screencaps here after all
Anonymous No.282172680 [Report] >>282172766
>>282172596
I didn't mention reddit first though. And you mentioned /pol/ more than any other board has been mentioned by anyone else, making you factually more obsessed than me.
>Everyone agrees
just you
> Anime itself carries that antifascist messaging
repeat this 100 more times and it will become true (just kidding lol)

>>282172661
You clearly implied you would fit in there and not get banned. Maybe you need to go back.
Anonymous No.282172766 [Report] >>282172802
>>282172680
You must be desperate to make a stretch like that. Unfortunately everyone agrees with me and you have to samefag to get by. You tourists just do not have the numbers to pretend your presence matters here these days, especially since we get to laugh at the janitors deleting your spam and your increasingly unsubtle tantrums.
Everyone knows you’re a tourist from /pol/ who doesn’t even watch anime lol
Anonymous No.282172802 [Report] >>282172873
>>282172766
Ok, Everyone, but you are one person though.
Anonymous No.282172854 [Report]
>The schizo is a Gundamfag
What a surprise
Anonymous No.282172873 [Report] >>282172921
>>282172802
People agreeing with me is why you won’t actually make me into a bogeyman to shitpost about like ACK. You try to do some revisionist history as an election tourist and suddenly there’s a murmur of actual users talking about Stormfront. It’s what happens every time, you get mobbed and called on your bullshit.
Anonymous No.282172896 [Report] >>282172963
...and he's also an antilolifag.
What was it about calling people NPCs from an echo chamber again? Not a single original thought in his head.
Anonymous No.282172921 [Report]
>>282172873
Nobody agree with you, this board loves loli and waifu culture and hates faggots.
Anonymous No.282172963 [Report] >>282172979
>>282172896
But why even bother when you won’t screencap any of those posts? You already know people will just agree with me because you tried it before.
Anonymous No.282172979 [Report]
>>282172963
Fregoli
Anonymous No.282173031 [Report] >>282173123
...and of course he's a newfag from late 2024.
So not even a tumblr wave tourist, straight up just a post-covid retard.
Embarrassing.
Anonymous No.282173123 [Report]
>>282173031
No one’s going to be excited about your attempt to make me into a bogeyman if you don’t give them a screencap collage to chew on, this is some basic stuff. Put in the work if you want me to feel embarrassed or intimidated by your sleuthing.
Anonymous No.282173154 [Report]
Hitler would have loved anime.
Anonymous No.282173167 [Report] >>282173194
>>282160734 (OP)
Madoka did to magical girls what undertale did to indie games making them all be about depression.
Anonymous No.282173194 [Report]
>>282173167
Undertale isn't about depression though.
And neither is Madoka, even if it's depressing.
Anonymous No.282173199 [Report] >>282173232 >>282174033
>>282172596
>Anime itself carries that antifascist messaging too.
I don't know about antifascist, but most anime definitely carries a message of pro-tolerance. There's tons of anime that includes foreigners, outsiders, and other weird people. Certain people would get it if the blonde little girls from Britain were black girls from Africa instead. Just a reminder, real Japanese would bully such foreigners and especially half-breeds because they're too different from their own mono-culture.
Anonymous No.282173232 [Report] >>282173250
>>282173199
>most anime
watch more anime
Anonymous No.282173250 [Report] >>282173271
>>282173232
I have watched multiple anime every season since 2008 plus a whole load of older anime.
What are you counter examples?
Anonymous No.282173271 [Report] >>282173296
>>282173250
>req
no
watch more anime
Anonymous No.282173296 [Report]
>>282173271
Dumbass with no arguments.
Anonymous No.282173906 [Report]
>>282172502
>Culture shifted more in the early 2010s than in 2016 and in fact actual oldfags agree that the biggest cancer was 2012-2016.
Ahh the Gamergate/Obama/SJW/Tumblr years…
Anonymous No.282173958 [Report]
>>282165111
Cringe
Anonymous No.282174033 [Report] >>282174223
>>282173199
>Anime is meant to be progressive and antifascist
>The Japanese are a bunch of anti-racemixing Nazis
Pick one and only one.
Anonymous No.282174064 [Report] >>282174165 >>282174275 >>282176039 >>282184413
I like magical girl anime. Do you like magical girl anime, /a/?
Anonymous No.282174165 [Report]
>>282174064
Only the deconstructive ones.
Anonymous No.282174223 [Report] >>282175673
>>282174033
>The Japanese are a bunch of anti-racemixing Nazis
>anime literally welcomes race mixed characters
Dumb brainrot /pol/zoomer.
Anonymous No.282174275 [Report]
>>282174064
Does Djibril count as a magical girl anime?
Anonymous No.282175673 [Report]
>>282174223
>anime literally welcomes race mixed characters
Only if they’re mixed with white though right?
Anonymous No.282175795 [Report] >>282175849
I've been here since the SA days and this is perhaps the dumbest fucking thread I've ever seen on /a/. I wish the faggot that keeps taking the bait and the actual faggot would both buy some rope and make the world a better place.

Every time I come back to this honeypot it's a little worse. No idea while I still lurk it from time to time.
Anonymous No.282175849 [Report]
>>282175795
It's literally a guy who hates magical girl shows using AI to make nonsensical conversations with himself and fuck up threads.
Also he's the one that made the thread.
Anonymous No.282175856 [Report]
>>282160734 (OP)
>child audience
None of those anime in your OP image are for children though…?
Anonymous No.282175919 [Report] >>282175938
>>282160966
>Modern mahou shoujo aren't made for little girls
anon...
they never were...
Anonymous No.282175938 [Report]
>>282175919
>they never were...
Sometime in the 90’s to early 00’s they were.
Anonymous No.282175973 [Report] >>282176437
Does anyone have any proof that those Pierrot series like Creamy Mami weren't aimed at little girls? Just because they have panty shots doesn't mean anything. Did they air in the morning or during primetime? Creamy Mami definitely seemed to me like a typical younger audience magical girl anime.
Anonymous No.282176039 [Report]
>>282171352
This webm is already convincing, but do sell me on the show.

>>282174064
I sure do!
Anonymous No.282176042 [Report] >>282176124
>>282170592
This is /a/ so your normishit should go out. I'll just reply once. Let's use the scientific method for a second here.
1. "Experts" on TV says we'll all be underwater, dead or other castastrophy by 2000 in the 80's
2. It's 2020, nothing happened
3. They still spread the same bullshit
4. If you have a brain, you don't trust them.
5. Same chanel of diffusion (medias) pretend other catastrohpy exists like vaxx or whatever with all their experts
6. Don't trust them blindly?
Anyway you're a retard. Now back on mahoushoujo.
Anonymous No.282176068 [Report]
Cool spooks bro
Anonymous No.282176124 [Report] >>282176143 >>282177211
>>282176042
And they were mainly right back in the 80's, shit has gotten fucked beyond repair and it will continue getting more fucked. At this point we'll just be waiting for the first great ecosystem to collapse, then it'll snowball from there. When the microplastic bees finally lose their ability to pollute which is happening as we speak, i'll laugh at you pseuds. Enjoy the ride nigger.
Anonymous No.282176143 [Report]
>>282176124
>pollute
Its pollinate RETARD
Anonymous No.282176158 [Report] >>282180587
>>282170622
>[Science] is something you do yourself
With what money, anon? With what time? How do you gather the data? How do you analyze the data? Do you have the understanding to do that? What if it is too much work for one person?
Science, unfortunately, is no longer something you can do on your own without significant amounts of funding.
Anonymous No.282176208 [Report] >>282176307
>>282166629
Not military but Symphogear made a middle aged the strongest character in the show, stronger than the girls even
Anonymous No.282176307 [Report]
>>282176208
That one I've seen, it's great. They also have the ninja spook.
Anonymous No.282176437 [Report] >>282176474 >>282181107
>>282175973
>Does anyone have any proof that those Pierrot series like Creamy Mami weren't aimed at little girls?
Pastel Yumi had a huge otaku lolicon audience.
Anonymous No.282176474 [Report]
>>282176437
I mean that's going to happen anyway, and there's plenty of things that show this, but that doesn't mean that was the primary audience. Like older men liking Precure doesn't mean Precure isn't for little girls.
Anonymous No.282177211 [Report] >>282178889
>>282176124
Even in a thread for grown men watching magical girls you somehow manage to be the stupidest.
Anonymous No.282177944 [Report]
>>282170592
>I bet you think global warming is a scam
I think you mean global cooling, which was previously global warming, which was previously global cooling, which was previously global warming, which was...
Hey retard, if it's not a scam then explain why China and India are left to their own devices and the west are the one's pressured to deal with it? Why, if "climate change" is such a big deal are the top 2 polluters in the world not being pressured to fix their shit?
Anonymous No.282178140 [Report] >>282184733
>>282170707
>Yeah but the experts do the science and you don’t
Actually that is highly questionable. To use a board appropriate example since this is /a/. "Intellectuals" were saying that Japan should stop making manga for Japanese audiences and focus more on making them pander to western tastes and ideals.
Now ask yourself, did these "experts" do their research? Well as anyone with a brain knows, NO they didn't. If they did they wouldn't have said what they did.
Why? Because sales, their central argument, says that they're fucking wrong.
Looking at manga sales and western comic sales and comparing them, the best selling western comics are comparable in sales to the worst selling manga. And we're not talking small indie comics either. We're talking the big names like Marvel and DC. So when you resident harem SoL manga is selling better than SPIDERMAN you need to ask yourself if the "experts" even attempted to do their research instead of saying what the people who paid them wanted them to say.
Anime sales and viewership compared to western animation. Same story. So how can we trust these supposed "experts" when ANY research would tell you that their conclusion is not only wrong but fucking retarded and shows their research consisted of talking to one, singular faggot or tranny with pronouns in his bio child molester on bluesky?
Anonymous No.282178889 [Report] >>282180604
>>282177211
>grown men
We’re all little girls here anon.
Anonymous No.282179155 [Report]
>>282160734 (OP)
>Why is the magical girl genre filled with so much miserable suffering porn?
"Suffering porn" is such an awful choice of words for it, I prefer "sad magical girls" and it's my favourite anime subgenre.
Anonymous No.282179270 [Report]
>>282160734 (OP)
Pure mahou shoujo for girls still exists in the form of Precure and Princession, you guys just ignore its existence.

Any other modern series isn't made for kids, but rather adults and otaku. There's this habit of mentioning Sailor Moon and Madoka in the same sentence like Madoka is the "obvious" evolution of Sailor Moon, it isn't, Sailor Moon was made for a shoujo magazine, Madoka never sold toys intended for kids, the target audience isn't even close.
>but Sailor Moon was dark!
I would argue all older shows were a bit dark, even kid's shows. Toei still lets Kamen Rider have some darkness but they take it easier with Precure.
Anonymous No.282179401 [Report]
Mahou shojo are female samurai novices - that’s at least one cultural basis for the character type. As such, they are essentially stand-ins essential to unpacking the male warrior ethic, particularly men’s fears and anxieties confronting the duty to face death under command of higher authority. We watch as they transition from selfishness to selflessness, free from the repressive stoicism that dogs male culture, remaining free as women/girls to openly articulate a fuller range of vulnerabilities without shame or condemnation. A critical aspect of evolving the fortitude and self discipline a warrior requires too often denied in a male dominated culture.
Anonymous No.282180587 [Report] >>282180781
>>282176158
Don’t need money to have eyes and ears
Anonymous No.282180604 [Report]
>>282178889
No, just you. Now bend over
Anonymous No.282180781 [Report] >>282183046
>>282180587
Even the desk sciences are a fulltime job, you need money to eat and not be homeless.
Anonymous No.282181107 [Report]
>>282176437
Creamy Mami's director was an outright lolicon. That doesn't mean the Pierrot Mahou Shoujo were made for lolicons in the same way Boku no Pico was made for shotacons, which is how anons tend to take it. Lolicons were a nascent subculture back then and they latched on to 80s magical girls incredibly hard.

Shit, Minky Momo had a huge lolicon audience over at Ashi Pro; the director hated it and them.
Anonymous No.282183046 [Report] >>282183220
>>282180781
Observing your surroundings, which is what science is, isn’t a fulltime job at all.
Anonymous No.282183220 [Report] >>282183328
>>282183046
>Observing your surroundings, which is what science is
that's the issue, isn't it?
Science hasn't been "observe your surroundings" for a long while, because the tools needed for observation have grown more and more complex and expensive.
Anonymous No.282183328 [Report] >>282185162
>>282183220
No they haven't.
The scientific method hasn't changed in millions of years and it is in fact impossible for it to change.
Retards like you will never accept the fact that "progressivism" does not exist, that nature is immutable, and that going against it isn't "making it evolve", it's just destroying yourself.
Anonymous No.282184413 [Report]
>>282174064
Only the straightforward ones
Anonymous No.282184428 [Report]
>>282170698
They had actually already toned it down. Usagi had to kill them all with her own hands because she couldn't dispel mind control in the manga.
Anonymous No.282184618 [Report] >>282184661 >>282184930
>>282160734 (OP)
Because they were made by women, sometime lesbian women.
Men who want a fluffy story about cute girls can't relate.
Anonymous No.282184661 [Report]
>>282184618
Madoka was made by a man for men though.
Anonymous No.282184733 [Report]
>>282178140
Not really the same, business isn't science. These "experts" did do their research but you need to remember their end goal is to give themselves a bonus at the end of the quarter, not to make sales. Accurate data about the reality of the market is at best irrelevant and at worst detrimental to their short term goals. They are not trying to make something that is popular or profitable, they just need their proposals to get approved by the investors. Thats what their "research" focus on.
Anonymous No.282184741 [Report]
All this talk about research and science in a thread about magic people
Anonymous No.282184930 [Report]
>>282184618
what you posted is a body pillow cover btw
Anonymous No.282185162 [Report] >>282185268
>>282183328
So do you know what a spectrometer is?
Do you know how much one of the decent ones costs?
Science has become increasingly instrumentized and you need to gain access to these instruments to do anything of value.
Anonymous No.282185268 [Report]
>>282185162
Imagine thinking you need bullshit like that to observe the world
>Science has become
Nonsensical statement
That's like saying "space has become"
Nature doesn't change over time
Anonymous No.282185662 [Report] >>282185766
Why magical girl threads are always like this.
Sure, sometimes you can get decent discussion for specific series, but it feels like that if you try to extend it to the entire genre you attract nearly every schizo on the board.
Anonymous No.282185766 [Report] >>282185831
>>282185662
Because the jannies refuse to address the yurifag question
Anonymous No.282185831 [Report] >>282185850
>>282185766
That includes you
Anonymous No.282185850 [Report] >>282185888
>>282185831
Anonymous No.282185888 [Report] >>282185927 >>282187344
>>282185850
Predicable direction brained response. This bullshit makes it worse for anyone else who actually wants to discuss the shows/manga
Anonymous No.282185927 [Report] >>282185983
>>282185888
>direction brained
You mean having a coherent line of thought? Yeah that's called not being a retard
Anonymous No.282185983 [Report] >>282186040
>>282185927
You realize there are other aspects to the genre other than shipping right.
And that's an /a/ issue first and foremost, whenever I catch a thread in other boards it's nowhere near that bad, although not all good either.
Anonymous No.282186040 [Report] >>282186185
>>282185983
>You realize there are other aspects to the genre other than shipping right.
I do, they don't.
Hell, shipping isn't even actually part of the genre. Which makes their off topic spam all the more annoying.
Anonymous No.282186185 [Report]
>>282186040
As long they aren't shitting up discussion I'm not getting my panties in a bunch for a picture of two girls, if it's spamming the whole thread then yeah sure.
Anonymous No.282187344 [Report]
>>282185888
>direction brained
What brain damaged zoomer lingo is this one?