Thread 282203406

This show had nothing new to say from this guy onwards and the characters were just paper thin robot constructs devoid of all humanity, defending abstract philosophies that no one would adapt irl which they droned on about in a monotone "rational" voice which made any commentary on human nature lost.

But I guess you thought he had a cool moustache and had your adhd-riddled brains starving for fight scenes so you just lapped it up.

But you'd be wrong. It's an 8/10 two thirds through, 5.5/10 last third. All the show needed was that epilogue credits roll connecting to Copernicus which it could have dropped after the two thirds.

Probably screaming into the void here though as I don't think /a/ would watch a show like this.

>>282203406 (OP)
Nah I agree. It kept going and going but everything interesting had already happened. The finale of the inquisitor and his daughter kept me going but they fucked it up by making it way more complicated than it should be. Who keeps an arm in their pocket like that?
The priest and the duelist stole the show.

I haven't watched it but I believe that your opinion on this anime is accurate, it certainly seems like that kind of story.

>>282203406 (OP)
I disagree. The twist that 90% of the conflict in the entire series was the product of a dead man's autism and another man's illiteracy and mental retardation instead of some far-reaching conspiracy to suppress knowledge grounds the series instead of boiling down to a bunch of nips still being mad about the Catholic church for the 1000th time.

>>282203406 (OP)
>he didn't enjoy autistic japanese bug fedora version of Umberto-kino
pleb

>>282203477
kek, yeah the arm part was weird. It's so dumb that I chose to read it as him just being delusional and doing it for some weird comfort, not him actually rationally putting things together about the daughter

wow bait thread just ask if you wanted gay

>>282203511
I did like this part, also made it more in line with history since I kept thinking throughout the show that from what I remembered they weren't that adamant about supressing this stuff, and Copernicus himself never suffered any prosecution or anything, and later on when Galileo did, it was more because he was insulting the pope and rebelling against the entire political system as part of publishing his theories, which is why he was put under house arrest. None of the pyre burnings and stuff.

>>282203524
>tfw no Bond anime with Connery likeness

>>282203511
The knowledge surviving out of chance and not due dilligence and clever proliferation of it at some point and the "we'll give our lives just for the 0.1% chance that it will live on" and then it does because it's a show wasn't a turn I liked in an otherwise hardcore show where people have no plot armor and stuff.

>>282203511
>so uh, have you considered that you in fact are retarded?
kino, a bit of a trope of leaving yourself so open like that, though I guess he underestimated his autism.

>>282203573
>show about monks and the injustices of the church
>no shoehorned in gay character or gay subplot
a western show in current year would never

>>282203477
>The priest and the duelist stole the show.
Yes. Because they felt like they had something to them beyond just some weird abstract ideology they had inherited, they actually struggled with their humanity. Also, the priest telling the duelist to his face that, of course not everyone should read, that would be retarded, was hilarious and the type of thing I love seeing in historical stuff that isn't in line with today's views.

>>282203501
thanks chatgpt

>>282203611
>when Galileo did, it was more because he was insulting the pope and rebelling against the entire political system as part of publishing his theories, which is why he was put under house arrest
No, Galileo never insulted the pope, and it was explicitly because of heliocentrism, and Copernicus's works ended up on the ban list too. If Galileo didn't renounce heliocentrism, he probably would've been executed for heresy.

>>282203511
Christcuck is that you?

The gang is all here

This show is for women it's why it has so much gay porn
>>282203880
oh look a fag, this series was shit

>>282203858
In 1632, Galileo published his Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems, which defended heliocentrism while describing geocentrists as "simpletons". Responding to mounting controversy, the Roman Inquisition tried Galileo in 1633 and found him "vehemently suspect of heresy", sentencing him to house arrest.[2] At this point, heliocentric books were banned and Galileo was ordered to abstain from holding, teaching or defending heliocentric ideas after the trial.[3]

The affair was complex, with Pope Urban VIII originally being a patron and supporter of Galileo before turning against him. Urban initially gave Galileo permission to publish on the Copernican theory so long as he treated it as a hypothesis, but after the publication of the Dialogue in 1632, the patronage was broken off.[4]

Just copy pasting wikipedia here, so you know, grain of slat, but the pope supporting him at first in this, and then with him without permission going ahead and naming his detractors, ie the church "Simpletons" isn't exactly quietly publishing it, it's meant to mock them.

>>282203893
Honestly something about this show attracted the worst faggots that constantly go in circles around the same fucking thing every time. If the discussion was decent and not forced bait every time maybe the faggotry wouldn't call out to me

>>282203858
"Historical Notes: Galileo insulted the Pope, not the Church", an Independent article, probably what popularized the idea, not sure how accurate it is though

>>282203928
NANDE-DE-MOH

>>282203928
maybe the discussions are bad because there's nothing to discuss. maybe the historical setting gives it an air of importance and prestige tv a la your vinland sagas, but are in reality not that deep and don't have much to say beyond the first few episodes and you'd be more truthful to your human soul if you watched some well-animated shonen fights with pumping music and themes of friendship, loyalty, not giving up, and love.

>>282203923
>Just copy pasting wikipedia here
Then there are some other passages you should include

Earlier, Pope Urban VIII had personally asked Galileo to give arguments for and against heliocentrism in the book and to be careful not to advocate heliocentrism. Whether unknowingly or deliberately, Simplicio, the defender of the Aristotelian geocentric view in Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems, was often caught in his own errors and sometimes came across as a fool. Indeed, although Galileo states in the preface of his book that the character is named after a famous Aristotelian philosopher (Simplicius in Latin, "Simplicio" in Italian), the name "Simplicio" in Italian also has the connotation of "simpleton".[146][147]

This portrayal of Simplicio made Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems appear as an advocacy book: an attack on Aristotelian geocentrism and defence of the Copernican theory. Most historians agree Galileo did not act out of malice and felt blindsided by the reaction to his book.[k] However, the Pope did not take the suspected public ridicule lightly, nor the Copernican advocacy.[151]
>the pope supporting him at first in this
The pope was a supporter of Galileo, not of Galileo advocating for heliocentrism, which has already been officially declared heretical.

blog?

>>282204054
would you rather have a flavor of the week inflammatory cancer phrase and a lewd image instead?

>>282204038
so either the pope was retarded and didn't get that Simplicio was not galileo's creation, or he thought that most people wouldn't read the preface explaining the name and would simply read it as galileo shitting on the church and getting away with it, so he chose to go after him, sounds like the latter is most likely, so if this is to be believed you are right and this >>282203956
article is dubious at best in its claims.

>>282204145
Sounds to me more like Galileo called him a retard, then doubled down by insisting "retard" was an ancient term of respect.

>>282204104
Yes. Better than tourist pseud threed

>>282204145
>>282204496
so...which is it? just the duality of man and call it the day? Not very scientific

>>282203768
Did you somehow miss all the fujoposting