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Where is Sheila? Dead, Alive, Alive but Pariston? Irrelevant?

>>282366810 (OP)
>Alive but Pariston
this

Hunter x hunter is over.

>>282366810 (OP)
More like, "Where is Togashi?" It's been over a week since he xeeted about 419. Is he afraid to post 420 because then people will expect publication soon? Or maybe he doesn't want to mention 420 until he has something more to announce, like when publication will begin again? Or is he just being Togashi?

>>282368785
It would be so Togashi to just fucking dissapear again right as he’s about to finish a batch. Fucking hell

>>282366810 (OP)
The real question is why wasn’t this published as official numbered chapters. Because Togashi would know that a large portion of fans would never hear about this or read this. It’s it because its events are just fanservice and largely irrelevant to the current plot?
And if that’s the case, is Sheila just extra sauce for the troupes backstory for people to go “hey she was in kurpaikas backstory that Togashi released with the movie!” And smile? Or is there deeper meaning to her character?

>>282366810 (OP)
Alive and on Beyond's expedition team

>>282369130
Yep, she's right there on the far left wearing the suit.

>>282366810 (OP)
Alive
>>282366850
>Pariston
Cringe

Sheila good or evil is the true question

Page 1 has the hands from the urn ritual.

>>282371332
Sheila won’t be relevant

>>282371332
evil bitch

>>282371332
She's a hunter: not good or evil, but self-interested.

>>282366810 (OP)
IDK but all I know is that the Phantom Troupe flashback were 3 wasted chapters.

>>282371426
I never felt like the series delivered on this page outside of Greed Island. Toriko ended up more like this.

>>282371776
Some of the greed island creatures also maybe look like more magical versions of some of the creatures that live in Gon's forest.

Do we all finally agree that powerful enough manipulation can overwrite other’s manipulation? And that it’s simply rare for the disparity to be overwhelmingly high? Even ignoring the Shoot / Knuckle argument

>>282372910
No.
It seems intuitive, but there's nothing to suggest it yet.

>>282371426
It's just the alley hands from Diamond is Unbreakable.

>>282371622
Those were the most popular chapters, though.

>>282374022
They were the most popular chapters because it was fanservice. It didn’t serve the story. Also popularity isn’t directly correlated to quality.

>>282372910
do we know what nen Morel uses for his smoke?

>>282374670
yes

What kinda nen category and ability does Buhara's unnatural appetite from the pig hunt exam fit under?

Enhancing is stomach?
Transmuting his food directly into strength or energy?

>>282375099
Conjuration: everything he eats that ends up in his rectum transforms into gold which he then shits out.

>>282371332
Sheila is a spin on Toguro.

>>282372910
I don't think it's a matter of power, but of technique. As manipulator can target anything, there is no reason a manipulator can't develop a method to manipulate something that is already being manipulated. It's just that doing so is excessively complicated, as you likely need to develop it specific for each manipulation hatsu you want to take control over. It would probably be easier as a specialist, by using something similar to a hatsu stealing technique to copy the information of how their hatsu works, and then have a separate hatsu of your own that takes that information to then manipulate targets manipulated by that hatsu.

>>282374727
transmutation?

>>282375943
he's a manipulator

he doesnt need to transmute or conjure the smoke, because he already has his clubpipe

>>282376080
but we never see him light the pipe and he can use it under water and breathe through it.

>>282376118
its massive, he could just have an internal lighter if you're that anal about it

also there are no nen categories that innately govern smoke somehow existing underwater and creating a breathing tube out of smoke
its probably a hatsu effect he created as a result of being a sea hunter and constantly being around water and diving

>>282376118
Not that I care too much about either side of the argument. But there is no reason he can't have collected a lot of smoke as soot on the inside of the pipe. The only difference between soot and smoke is if it is in the air or collected on a surface.

I have friends whose sole reason for watching , and enjoyment , is tied to if nen is actually the best power system.

I know nen is part of why this series is acclaimed, but I alway thought it was just Togashi wanting to make any power possible, but within limit and with rules. Like I don’t think nen mechanics matter all that much to the writing or even the action outside of the basics.

I didn’t finish Chrollo vs Hisoka thinking “this is why nen is the best power system”, I just thought “Togashi can really eight super powers and fights”.

Sorry if it comes off as an aimless rant, I guess what I’m getting at is that Togashi made nen to serve the story first, as a way to excuse him so he can write whatever power or ability he wants without it going full uncontrolled retard shit

>>282376194
>>282376225
he calls it smokey aura.
you're latching to a farfetched explanation when an easy one is available and there is a hint leading to it
the hidden lighter is just retarded. we've never seen and it was never alluded to.

>>282376540
“Togashi can really write* superpowers and fights”

>>282376540
hxh without nen can be pretty good. the hunter exam is solid.

>>282376566
hes explicitly a manipulator as classified by Togashi

>>282376540
Nen isn’t that insane, it’s just that the bar is low. The fact that Togashi gives rules to his his power system already puts it above a shit ton of battle Shonen power systems. The extra quirks like vows , nen after death, conditions, is what makes it so good.
Jojo is still the best for simplicity, world trigger is best for complexity

nen classifications are not why nen is good

nen is good because it explicitly demands some form of equivalent karmic cost or discipline for using it

>>282377083
The only benefits of the classification system are to the method Togashi uses to develop the mental aspect of fights to make a more clear line of reasoning as to how characters figure out the nature of their opponent's abilities. That isn't really a benefit to the system itself, just to the ease of using it in the story. A more vague system where things are less classified, and don't have strict efficiency levels with type, but with a more complex set of tells could be a better system, but it would not necessarily be easier to write, or for readers to follow along with the logic in fights.

>>282377238
No, the classifications are part of what makes Nen popular, not because of how it's used in the story (which readers take with a huge helping of "just trust me bro" from Togashi), but because it implies limitations and lets fans sort themselves into groups. People love being sorted into groups (eg. half of Harry Potter's popularity is the Hogwarts houses) and limitations are what makes power systems fun (nobody likes a system that just lets you do whatever you want because then there's no game for your imagination to play).

Nen also satisfies both people who like power systems where everyone has a super unique ability and power systems that are just ki-infused superhuman feats. Togashi also constructed the Hatsu types in a satisfying way, so from top to bottom, they progress from the generalist, Fighter-esque, master of the basics to the specialist, Wizard-esque, autistic snowflake.

Transmutation is ruined by how hard it would be to make dangerous elements without hurrying yourself . It limits half the abilities you could make with it

>>282377717
Hurting yourself*

>>282377602
I'm not saying that everything with the classification system is bad. Just how strict it is. Such as how manipulators are innately bad at transmutation, with specific numbers put to it. I think a more vague system where it is possible to be an enhancer conjurer that is bad at transmutation instead could be better, but that it would be far more complex to have characters decipher their opponents in a way that is clear to the reader.

>>282377782
That's too complicated. That's like Naruto elemental affinities. No one likes that, there's like 700 different arrangements. People want to be able to say, "I'm an x," not, "I'm a d>b>f>e>a>c". That's some LGBT zoomer shit.

>>282377717
Not really, since you can isolate it. Feitan summons a miniature sun and he's fine with it. Lighting yourself on fire would be a bad idea, yeah, so don't do that. The reality is there aren't "elements" you'd want to transmute to begin with. If you're talking about the classical elements, what do you want to do? Water? Aura already acts like water. Earth? To what, grow plants? If you're talking about the periodic table, you absolutely can do that, but you're not seeing the big picture. Transmutation changes your aura's behavior, it's better not to think about what it replicates and instead think about how you would describe it. Bungee Gum isn't Hisoka transmuting his aura into bubblegum, it's him transmuting his aura into having sticky and elastic properties. That's better than any one particular thing he could imitate.

Also, look at Biscuit, Hanzo and Youpi. They're Transmuters.

>>282378047
The problem with elemental affinities isn't in how complex you can arrange them, but in how boring they are. The elements are just different styles of the same thing with a rock paper scissor system of what wins. And I'm not saying having a main category is bad, I'm saying having a strict alignment with all others stemming from it is. Having 40% in conjuration as an emitter, or the reverse as a strict rule has resulted in Togashi making multiple characters as though they aren't actually dealing with that reduction, due to clearly blending the two categories.

>>282376655
sure but he says he's a weak faggot. how is he a weak faggit with huge aura pool and very adaptive nen ability?
he's using other nen types.
>we never see him light his pipe
>he can use it under water

Which Nen type is best at Shu? Manipulation, Enhancement, or Emission?

>>282378993
Manipulators can put the most aura into an object, enhancers can increase the strength of an object the most, and emitters are a middle ground between them that can also maintain that aura the best when at a distance from it. In general none of them are better at Shu, but depending on the specific application it could go to any of the three.

Watched The Rehearsal seasons 1 & 2. Nathan Fielder would be an EXCELLENT hunter

>>282371426
Isn't this just riffing on the opening for Warm Piss?
>Wealth, fame, power!

KWAB

Morel's nen smoke is conjured. If it was transmuted it would have to remain connected to his body and wouldn't require manipulation.

>>282378047
Feitan is only fine because he conjures a special suit to protect himself. Transmuting his nen into a sun would kill him otherwise, like all other cool transmutations.

Machi chapter when?

>10 chapters every year to two years
>need to reread the whole arc to not feel lost everytime
I'm tired, boss, I'll just wait another 10 years and read when it's done i know i won't

I want to fuck the scorpion

>>282366810 (OP)
unfunny

>>282382292
4-6 years to the end of the succession war at this rate

says he has the next 40 chapters narratively mapped out

How come Gon never went to the Lurka ruins?

Blowing my load in Pitou's impotent cat womb.

>>282382292
I find rereading the arc to be very enjoyable.

I want to fuck the ant

>>282384316
Anon, that's not when the arc's ending.

>>282387262
In 7 years, 30-50 chapter fags are gonna shit up the threads when it’s chapter 460 and the end isn’t in sight

>>282377717
you have 80% of EN, the best at hand to hand combat + defense.
and 80% at CO, the most complex one.
it evens out.

How would Tserriendichs ability work in a giant crowded room. Would every single person see the illusion? Because if so, he’s fucking overpowered as a dictator. He can escape any assassination and use his lie detector on anyone.

>>282377717
It feels like there are only around 10 actually useful properties that you could give your aura that don't require help from another category.
It's just an insanely limited part of nen compared to the other categories and you can easily see why there are so few transmuters in the story. Also it should be nearer emission.

>>282389528
>require help
I feel like people overestimate how much help is needed. Feitan just needs to make a protection suit. I’m sure there’s creative work arounds for any element or property

>>282389553
Feitan needs to get the shit beat out of him and only then can he make a protective suit. He can't just conjure it willy-nilly.

>>282389434
Yeah, despite how over powered it seems it's very risky in combat though, which is why it's so strong in the first place

>>282389434
It doesn't work like that. He's not constantly using his ability. He can still die by assassination. It's a coincidence that he was using his ability the moment Theta tried to kill him.

>>282390137
True. But the guy seems to be intelligent, aware, distrustful, and can activate the ability pretty fast. I wouldn’t be shocked if he’s using the ability like 100 times a day.

>>282389528
It's supposed to be limited, that's why it's next to Enhancement. It's not like Emitters don't go through a similar problem: Melody, Sayird, Razor and Tocino use Manipulation, Knov and Biscuit use Conjuration, and Pokkle, Zeno and Silva all use Transmutation. If Pokkle can shoot a fire arrow, a Transmuter should be able to do the same but trade range for shape and intensity of the flame.

There should also be a bunch of fodder Transmuters that just shape their aura into fists or blades, but Togashi never does it for some reason. He always saves Transmutation for really weird shit like Youpi and Hanzo.

I'm hoping the hacker Heil-ly has an interesting ability because one thing Togashi hasn't explained in detail is the ability for Transmutation to incorporate sensations. It's interesting that the characters with abilities based on feeling good/bad are Transmuters.

>>282391331
Silva doesn't use transmutation and none of Hanzo's shown hatsu use it either.

>>282389528
>>282391331
I dabbled with a homebrew hatsu about storytelling, a while ago. I first wanted to make in conj to summon things from the stories a bit like basho does. I came across the pitfall that they user would be dependend on being able to speak and for their audience to be able to hear them. This had me pivot the hatsu towards transmutation, turning aura into sound and only leaning conjuration if the achieved "narrative Immersion" is STRONG enough. Sound would be great in combat and the user wouldnt need a suit but just earplugs.

Tldr: yes i think transmutation is underexplored

>>282391331
The difference is that emission is already a good category by default. It is the ranged class and long range attacks are always good in combat. Most emission abilities can also be used freely and don't require the user to have to figure out a loophole just so they don't kill themselves with it.

>>282366810 (OP)
She's Pariston now. Although knowing Togayshi she was probably male from the start
>>282371332
Definitely evil

>>282391686
*it conj
*the user
Togodshifuckingdammit

>>282369039
Both the Troupe backstory and the Kurapika backstory will be relevant.
Hence why Kurapika and Pariston having crossed paths yet. And also why Pariston and the Phantom Troupe haven't crossed paths

>>282391686
Any level of sound that could actually hurt or kill a nen user would also break through regular earplugs effortlessly and hurt you. You're just doing Feitan's shtick again and would need a strong condition to make good enough earplugs to not hurt yourself like Feitan does with his suit.
You would be 1000 times better off being a manipulator who controls sound waves. Which is another problem with transmutation, if you are simply copying a real life substance, most of the time you'd be better off simply manipulating the real life version of it.

Nen system became stands with extra steps after G.I

>>282392460
How?or in what way?

>>282391795
kys schizo

>>282391686
I wish Basho got to do more. His hatsu is pretty unique.

>>282392702
It’s hard to write, just like Knovs scream

>>282392610
He saw a meme here and it made people "seethe" so now he just repeats that

Cutechi

>>282376540
nah you are right
Nen is simply an attempt to broadly sistemize powers in fiction in general
its not perfect but it is a far more thoughtful approach than in most media, but at the end its just a vessel to allow his character to potentially be able to do anything

Wing is such a faggot for condescending Kastro to a pair of absolute nen rookies.

If Kastro hadn't wanted to taunt Hisoka and went straight for the kill the clown would be dead before he had figured out the hatsu.

>>282394203
Kastro's biggest issue as a guide on what not to do is the fact that he's too talented.
If almost any other enhancer tried to make the same hatsu he did, they wouldn't even be able to create it at all. They'd find it impossible to conjure something as complex as a whole other human being that can also use nen and would then not even get the chance to try and fail to manipulate it. The problem is that if Kastro didn't have the hatsu at all it would be too difficult to explain how he fucked up, as nen was only just being introduced, and the fight between him and Hisoka would be shit.

>>282394717
>Anyway, here's a jobber who also makes a clone of himself, an Emitter and a Conjurer that rely entirely on punching, a dozen Emitters who rely on Transmutation, an Enhancer who uses Conjuration to turn their limbs into guns and bullets and Manipulation to pilot corpses from the inside and gain access to their Nen ability, and the greater Nen user in the world: an Enhancer who conjures a statue to fight for him

>>282396974
Can you post proof of an Emitter making a construct without using Conjuration?

>>282397004
14 Devils

>>282397099
What's your proof that they're not Conjured?

>>282397142
>Emitter
>In charge of the Emissive systems for the entirety of greed island
>Conjuration is the WORST AFFINITY for Emitters
>We see the 14 Devils become detached from his body through his Aura
If they weren't Emission, then the guy who is in charge of Emission for the entirety of Greed Island trained his WORST affinity for a game he could've just gotten more prisoner jobbers for otherwise.
I feel like that's a pretty conclusive nod to them being Emissive, as close as you can get without Togashi spelling it out.

How could it be a Transmuter ability? It feels like there has to be some aspect of this Nen type that readers aren’t privy of.

>>282397332
Transmuters can also morph/change the physical properties of objects, we see this with Bisky and Youpi morphing their physical appearances, presumably without Conjuration, it'd make sense that you can also use that principle to change the properties of nonliving objects, too.

>>282397308
So Knov and Sayird don't use Conjuration, Morel doesn't use Transmutation, and Hanzo and Biscuit doesn't use Manipulation.

>>282397438
It makes more sense that that's just Conjuration and it's no big deal for them because Transmutation is next to it. Transmutation is supposed to affect aura and nothing else. Creating an object by sacrificing another object is still creating an object. This is why Hinrigh, Tsubone, Kurton and Padaille are Conjurers.

>>282397308
>>We see the 14 Devils become detached from his body through his Aura
That is a non-canon anime only scene.

>>282397332
Someone makes their aura regenerative like a lizard.

>>282397625
> So Knov and Sayird don't use Conjuration
Knov does utilize Conjuration, I'm only saying it's likely that if Emissive constructs exist, which we have evidence for, it'd be that opposed to Conjuration. also
>Sayrid
When does he use Conjuration?
>Morel doesn't use Transmutation
I mean he pretty obviously does. Both Morel and Knov utilize myriad aspects of Nen in both of their abilities (mind you, Morel is the lowest tier of Nen-user, only being 'great')
>Transmutation is supposed to affect aura and nothing else
Where is this said?
>Creating an object by sacrificing another object is still creating an object
The aspect of not being able to be cut by something, repairing oneself can be attributed to Transmutation, otherwise why would Nobunaga imply this instead of just saying "This wall was made using Conjuration", throwing out many possibilities. Hinrigh specifically says it's "protected" by Nen, which implies that it may not be a Nen construct in and of itself.
>Creating an object by sacrificing another object is still creating an object. This is why Hinrigh, Tsubone, Kurton and Padaille are Conjurers.
I don't disagree.

>>282397751
My bad.
Regardless, I don't think this disproves the point I was trying to make.

>>282397332
Covered in aura transmuted to be hard, durable or resistant to slashing.

>>282397788
>Knov does utilize Conjuration
Why? If Emitters can make objects, why bother using Conjuration at all?
>When does he use Conjuration?
Earphone appears on Oito.
>I mean he pretty obviously does
What an idiot! Doesn't he know it's the opposite of Manipulation? You should tell Togashi he messed up.
>Where is this said?
It would be weird if Wing describes Transmutation as changing the properties of aura...and then forgetting that it can change the properties of, uh, everything. Wow. Why not just say that, Wing?
>The aspect of not being able to be cut by something, repairing oneself
Those are two different things. I'm not against the idea that maybe Transmutation can repair something, somehow, but it doesn't do it by creating something, because that's Conjuration.

>>282397994
I never once said that Nen users can't utilize affinities outside of their own. All the examples you've given are affinities being used in conjunction with their main one, their main affinity is the focal point of their ability, while everything else is supplementary. It would make more sense if some constructs were made from Emission, the general difference being Conjuration doesn't directly effect the user, while Emitted constructs typically enable an Emission-based ability. Goreinu, Razor, Biscuit (Despite being Transmutation), Musse, Camilla, and Tserriednich are all examples of this. Camilla is likely the most blatant, Conjured objects are visible by normal people, Camilla's cat wasn't seen by anybody, lest you postulate it being representative rather than literal, which hasn't been done before in the manga to my knowledge.
>Wing describes Transmutation as changing the properties of aura
We've seen that non-human objects or species can have aura, as is the case with Abengane's ritual.
>Those are two different things. I'm not against the idea that maybe Transmutation can repair something, somehow, but it doesn't do it by creating something, because that's Conjuration.
Yeah, I don't disagree. Conjuration has been shown to be able to replace or alter objects/events. If we're arguing for Transmutation, the property which Transmutive aura grants is imbued through another affinity such as Emission, but can be theoretically achieved by a swath of abilities, could achieve the desired effect we're seeing in the panel.

>>282398310
>Camilla is likely the most blatant, Conjured objects are visible by normal people, Camilla's cat wasn't seen by anybody
No one was around to see the ability apart from Musse who reacted to it.

>>282381937
pretty decent point.
i forgot the anti-conjuration points

>>282398310
Musse's owls are confirmed to be conjuration by the fact that only he can see them. This is not the same as non nen users not being able to see aura as even other nen users can't see them, so the invisibility must be a conjured effect like Kurapika's stealth dolphin.
Tserriednich's nen beast is said to be conjured in chapter 384.

>>282381937
>>282398573
oh oh
how does he change the properties of his smoke if it's conjured?
he can make it behave as a wall, prevent people and water from leaking in as well as just behave as smoke.

>>282397332
I feel theres plenty of valid overlap between categories, and its mostly a distinction of how one thinks about and uses their nen.
Which again follows with its link to personality and individuality.

I'm conjuring a gun.
I'm emitting a gun.
I'm emitting a bullet.
I'm conjuring the bullets that go in my gun.
I'm enhancing the bullets in my gun to bullet harder.
I'm transmuting my aura to have bullet-like properties.
I'm enhancing my gun to have stronger properties.

These things have roughly the same results, its simply how you use your aura.

>>282389434
any long duration and AOE effect destroys him. for example, Feitan.

>>282381937
Emission due to needing a Nen core to function, and then this enables the automation through Manipulation and changing how it looks through Transmutation.

>>282398621
Conjuration is the shapeshifting category not manipulation. His smoke changes from a gas to a solid and changes color. His smoke also smells like smoke which debunks it being transmuted as he would have to pointlessly add the property of smelling like smoke to his transmuted aura for no reason (Hisoka's bungee gum does not smell like rubber or taste like gum as those would be extra properties). His smoke can also become invincible (smoky jail) which is something only conjured objects are able to do (APR or Cheetu's hourglass).
It also looks nothing like transmuted aura (Zeno's dragons or Pokkle's bow and arrow) which is a dead giveaway that it's either a real object or conjured, if it was transmuted it would be transparent and his copies wouldn't fool anyone. This is also part of why emitted nen beasts have never been real and how you can tell something is conjured 99% of the time just by looking at it.

>>282398689
Feitan is probably the worst example imo. Rising sun took forever to start. Zazan was just so stupid she stood and watched

Someone like Camilla would rape tsneed

>>282398596
>confirmed to be conjuration by the fact that only he can see them
How does that confirm that they're Conjuration?

>>282398833
Read the rest of the post.

If we ever get to the end, would be sick to see a Hunter Exam from the Examiners perspective.

Cheedle has Leorio, Gon, Kurapika, and Killua create phases for an Exam, or a single phase.

>>282398848
In doesn't dictate Conjuration.

>>282398310
>Conjuration doesn't directly effect the user
What does that even mean? People who transform their bodies are Conjurers (Tusbone, Kurton, Padaille) and Conjurers can use their abilities on themselves (Kurapika, Abengane, Kortopi), not to mention Hakoware. Do these not count as directly affecting the user? And is the implication that Emitters who make non-conjured constructs DO directly affect the user? Razor's devils don't do shit to him, they just walk around and play ball.
>Goreinu
True: teleportation. The manga does not clarify how the gorillas are created or how Goreinu would recreate them, so that's no help. Although if you trust the anime (I know), they're summoned via portals, which would make them seem conjured to me.
>Razor
The devils don't use Emission abilities, though, they literally just ball.
>Biscuit
Cookie-chan doesn't use Emission, unless you want to call the fact she uses aura at all Emission, in which case you'll have to reprimand Wing for forgetting to name Emission as one of the types Kastro used to make his doppelganger.
>Musse
True, I don't know what to make of Musse. An ability like that sounds like Emission, but sometimes Togashi throws curveballs, like all the conditionally invisible Conjurations in this arc.
>Tserriednich
He's a Specialist so you can't make much of that.
>Camilla's cat wasn't seen by anybody
That might be due to no one being there, anon. :)
>We've seen that non-human objects or species can have aura
But those things themselves are not aura.
>the property which Transmutive aura grants is imbued through another affinity such as Emission
We've seen people put aura in things and walk away and nobody considers it emitted (eg. Gido's tops). It's not like Gido had a thousand lines of aura connecting him to the tops.

I think the fact Nobunaga didn't consider the wall to be using Conjuration is because his attacks didn't even scratch it. It's hard to tell in the panel, but I think the lines he made are just cosmetic.

>>282398862
It's not In. It is never stated to be In. If it was, Camilla or literally anyone he has ever spied on could simply use Gyo for one second and immediately realized the owl is there. It is fully invisible just like Kurapika's conjured stealth dolphin.

>>282398897
>That might be due to no one being there, anon. :)
oh! i'm silly :D

The only distinction between emission and conjuration seems to conjured things are semi-permanent if a users aura is depleted?

Skilled emitters like Razor can condense their emitted aura to the extent that it becomes manipulable physically solid material?

It'd be valuable to have a more comprehensive guide/documentation of Nen Affinities and their relation to Abilities besides the stupid fucking fanon wiki.

>>282398862
>>282398833
he's referencing this page

Conjuration is just shittier Emission, but doesn't require persistent use of nen to maintain a corporeal object, and those conjured objects are "less" enhanceable or manipulable by virtue of the hexagon weakness thing that probably isn't very real?

Wait so it's superior to Emission in every way, except efficiency of raw damage and durability?

And it can summon beings from other dimensions?

Wing is fucked up letting Gon fight Hisoka

>>282399588
I guess that kills the 'Emission based construct' theory. I think with someone like Netero it's more likely that the construct itself is based in Conjuration but the attacks, like we see with Pitou, are Emissive. The construct itself is purely aesthetic or aids in adding restrictions.

>>282399805
Razor has an emitted manipulated volleyball team with physically corporeal form.

The main problem with discussions about nen types and taking Togashis type list for the characters as reference is that just because a character has a type doesn't necessarily mean their ability has to use that type or only use that type.
Take Kastro for example, he is listed as an enhancer but his ability used multiple different nonenhancer types, which is why he had shit affinity.
This is literally one of the first nen fights we see where the type usage is explained and people still don't get it.
So for example Knov is an emitter, but just because he's an emitter doesn't mean that the master key for his mansion isn't conjured, it is.
Then we have characters like Netero or Razor who have such ridiculous amounts of power that they can compensate for worse affinities in their abilities by sheer output.
So while Razor might be an emitter and his main skill is emitted volley balls his dolls can still be part conjuration, same as with Neteros statue, just because he is an enhancer doesn't mean he can't emit/conjure aura with his ability.

>killugon doujins I was gonna commission scans for are already ordered and getting scanned by the people I was going to commission
Can't wait

>>282400041
Whenever someone conjures something that doesn't do jackshit, they just sit there or walk around and act as a kind of marker or receiver for the Nen user, I assume that person isn't a Conjurer, since Conjurers make something like magic items and there's no point in just conjuring a dude with no special effect. And presumably anyone can do this, since everyone can use the five non-Specialist categories. Most blasters use Transmutation for example even though they have "only" 60% affinity. That says to me that making your aura sharp and burning is not a big deal.

He should clarify:
Purely emitted aura can't behave like solid matter.
Purely conjured sentient entities aren't manipulated but have will of their own.

Would that do it?

Razor's Team is conjured but manipulated?
Kastro's Double was conjured and manipulated.
Nen Beasts are conjured, but not manipulated.
Knov's space is conjured, but the portals are emission.

>>282400413
Emission is the separation and persistence of aura from the body.
Conjuration is the realization of aura into matter.

Nice Ultimate Conjuration Nen, not even being able to eat Nen after death

More and more new anime fans are waking up to how overrated and horribly paced and lengthy chimera ant arc is. In 10 years it’ll probably be hated

What the fuck happened? It’s been the longest break between posts
….right when the next one was 420…