Thread 282957976

Do you think rocks would be ashamed of his son if he saw what he did to newgate and having slaves?

The main characters

You were magnificent Rocks D. Xebec. I won’t forget you for as long as I live.

ITS SIMPLE

WE

WANT

THE

WORLD

Roger defeated Imu Saturn on God valley I'm calling it now. They don't call him the Pirate KING for no reason!

>>282957976 (OP)
Please remove garlic the fraud

>>282958029
GODling has so much aura

Imu can blow up islands, he doesnt need Uranus. The mass sinking was meant to kill the D empire, nothing like that will rise again so Imus behavior is genuinely stupid

>>282958056
The only reason why he was called the pirate king was because he travelled the entire grand line nobody said he was the strongest person

Lulti is the thinking mans ship.

>>282957976 (OP)
Yes

>>282958029
Who's gonna tell garling he's not gonna fight unharmed women and children

if each One Piece character was to be an embodiment of a human trait, what would it be?
>Luffy
freedom
>Zoro
honor
>Nami
greed
>Sanji
love/kindness(?)
>Usopp
bravery
>Chopper
It's been so long since he was a character, I need to go back to read from Drum Island onwards and see what Oda's vision was with him
>Robin
>Franky
>Brook
>Jinbei
I've go nothing

>>282958113
Based.

>>282957976 (OP)
Well, duh.

>>282958055
You know, Rocks is oddly in tune with fate, like how he accurately says luck is not on his side anymore. Maybe BB inherited that? Or is it just Hawkins no waza da?

>>282958152
>Sanji love/kindness(?)
Reijuu please go talk to a therapist this is just cringe now

>>282958152
Robin could be something like hunger for knowledge, can't think of a single term for it.

Why was Harald such a BITCH

>>282958111
Cope, Roger brought Imu to his motherfucking knees and kissed rogers boot.

>>282958113
Why is Robin so slutty?

>>282957976 (OP)
FUCK TEACH

>>282958113
>>282958156
why do they pair so well together?

Does Oda still have the guts to have Luffy die at the end of the series?

>>282958113
>>282958156
LuBo is superior

>>282958200
Someone posted this clip showing how cool Brook was https://youtu.be/YdZmn3sqMCs and it got me thinking that yeah kindness does seem like a big attribute for Sanji. Like the "not letting anyone go hungry" thing. I'm not sure if there's a reason anyone would argue Love isn't a defining trait for him

>>282958256
He has to for Two Piece.

>>282958230
Nice headcanon

>>282958239
Teach being so dogshit at fisticuffs is why I can't take him seriously as a villian, I feel like he HAS to get merged with Imu at some point.

>>282958288
>headcanon
It will soon be shown as fact and then all will kneel to the PIRATE KING!

I'd tenderly rape Ulti if I were Luffy

>>282958242
Their energies really match. And clash, but that's part of the fun.

>>282958256
If Luffy dying is a part of his original ending and he's not deviating from it, then yes. Otherwise I'm leaning towards no.

I am the biggest fraud of all time protected by the biggest hype and largest lies disguised as trvkium, hahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!

>>282958236
Female characters who are constantly on the run and have to bribe and hide have a "you just know" element to them. Same as with Nami and her needing to gather all that money. I actually wonder which Oda females DON'T have this element, other than the princesses.

The One Piece is real

>>282958324
Honestly? Roger

>>282958288
>picrel
Lmao.

>>282958256
I believe the old man form isn't just a gag, it reflects how much of Luffy's lifespan he's burned up with his reckless journey.

>>282958324
Garling...

>>282958053
>Garling later forgot

The GOAT

>>282958152
Why the hell is Nami the only one who is a negative trait, but Usopp is apparently "bravery". Even she fits that one more

>>282958242
Both are idiots overprotective of their loved ones, who solve everything headfirst into a fight, no matter the opponent.

>>282958404
I’ll take good care of your wife while you fight Satan, Rocks.

>>282958317
Nah, Luffy should rape cute girls instead

>>282958029
>3 fingarlands
>sabo
>koby
WTF was Oda thinking

AHHHH ROCKS MY SWORD INJURIES
>heavy breathing
ARENT HEALING AS WELL DUE TO IS HAKI AHHHHH I AM MAC TONIGHT ACKKJJK

>>282958440
>Teach never sleeps, because he still has nightmares of THAT moment

Why the FRUARCK is the One Pace website a link to a discord now?

>>282958113
>>282958156
>>282958258
LuYa is the endgame.

>>282958477
>one pace
Weak, don't speak to me

>>282958029
Only 4 characters here deserve any respect

Garling should be embarrassed.
No “how high will your celling go?” for you

I will miss this BEAST.

>>282957976 (OP)
Rocks probably owns slaves himself anon, he's a pirate

>>282958456
Guys, she is only talking about Orochi, I swear.

In dire need of more Smoothie in this outfit. It's the cold season for Pete's Sake!

>>282958521
And yet, he will still kill Rocks. How funny life can be sometimes.

>>282958415
I did not mean greed to be negative, the same way pride/honor isn't negative to me either.

>>282958531
Just like Luffy keeps those slaves under deck, because he is a pirate.

>>282957976 (OP)
Is Garling a Dragon victim or a Blackbeard victim?

>>282958490
Luffy and Zoro swore to never have sex and to prevent Sanji from ever having sex, it's over.

>>282958568
he will die of old age

>>282958308
When Teach puts his claws back on you'll see a big difference in his fisticuffs.

Would it have been a good change if Oda made it so that Celestial Dragons CAN'T legally take human slaves from World Government affiliated nations, and only from non-affiliated nations, or would that break some world building? We know life is actually pretty comfortable and peaceful in WG nations, so it would make the WG and Navy seem a little more nuanced.

Do you think WB knew Teach was his old captain's son?

>>282958055
What about killing the Batman?

>>282958565
The Straw Hats are literally one of a kind, even the Roger Pirates weren't as goody-two shoes as them. Not that Luffy is completely morel or a hero like normalfags often try to make him out to be though. Rocks is a mass murderer and wanted to take over the world.

>>282958627
no, I bet Roger knew though

>>282958490
Yamato's body belongs to Momonosuke.

>>282957952
I think this little shellshocked kid is supposed to show how the great Davy line has been reduced to this scared little bug. He feels like the smallest, weakest, loneliest scrap of something that was apparently great, that was apparently stomped to smithereens by a bunch of hedonistic ugly degenerates. Which is why he becomes desperate for power through any means, and believes in no moral code

Stomp on something long enough and even the flame of integrity will be snuffed out to become the ashes of a trampled, missing tooth thief. It could happen to the blood and legacy of anyone, even Roger, even Luffy, even in their own lives (in a bad timeline).

>>282958640
What a beast.

>>282958531
Not gonna fall for your lies sengoku

So apparently the narration here calls Garling the "champion" of God Valley without any sort of bias.
>Tournament he practically organized was a complete disaster and cancelled right after it started
>The grand prize "meant" for him, Shakky, and a bunch of other powerful devil fruit prizes were all lost
>One of his sons was kidnapped by a marine cadet of all things and given to pirates to be raised by them
>Got his ass kicked by Rocks while backed up by another knight and a group of demonized Davys (including Rocks' own dad and granny, so he must have been mentally shaken)
Nothing short of being essential to Rocks' death could redeem him and earn him that title at this point, and even then he still wouldn't look that good.

>>282958456
>Oden danced naked for five years instead of doing anything to stop Kaido/Orochi
>Hiyori whored herself for years to uhh get close to Orochi?
>Momo needed Luffy to save his country and Yamato to convince him to stop being a pussy
Are we sure Moria is a Kozuki?

>>282958521
Garling
>2nd in command of the entire world
>genes so strong his two sons are highly influential
>most popular Celestial dragon
>made sommers his bitch
>fucked shakky
>eats lobsters every day
He won in life

>7 one piece threads
fucking stop
there isnt even shit to talk about

>>282958617
CD can take whatever they want, even princesses from member kingdoms. Heck, even rich people can buy mermaids in the slave markets, and they are from a member nation. It's just it's easier to capture non-citizens and criminals than bring heat on their operation if you take from WG nations openly, when slavery is technically illegal.

>>282958721
He just killed the most citizens and slaves he's a bum

>>282958682
>He feels like the smallest, weakest, loneliest scrap of something that was apparently great, that was apparently stomped to smithereens by a bunch of hedonistic ugly degenerates.
Good write up.

Worth mentioning that it happened 800 years ago too, and it still wasn’t enough for them as they’re still hunting the Davy Clan today. That kind of unreal one-sided hatred would make somebody go loony.

>>282958791
Would they even be able to count kills after the island descended into chaos?

>>282958617
>non-affiliated nations

Is Sabaody a non-affiliated nation?
Charlos took the nurse there as his wife.

Obligatory Bonney post

>>282958815
All because joy boy cucked imo

>>282958152
Nami is too moralfag to be greed, she wouldnt have hesitated to sell out Robin for shekels if she was greed.

>>282958668
Strawhats are not the only ones; the only pirate groups we have seen in the slavery businesses are the Kaido, Donquixote Doflamingo, and Blackbeard. The rest just seem to be relegated to raiding or other illicit business. If Oda wanted for Rocks to have slaves, he would have shown it; he had plenty of time and background space in the flashback to do so.

I love hancock so much. I want to have sex with hancock.

>>282958640
Man I really want him to fuck my wife

>>282958668
Sometimes I like to imagine OP characters watching the anime openings of OP, knowing it's a cartoon about "their world" - and being salty as hell about the Strawhat kid and his pals being the center of attention, standing around in groups smiling like idiots and having fun like a bunch of carefree hipster kids, and with happy and comfortable women included in the in-group

>>282958721
The kaido of CD

>>282958904
We know luffy she's practically begging you at this point

>>282958888
Checked.

>>282958721
I say wait and see,
My Garlingcoin will boom to the moon.

>>282958893
There was also Caribou but that was a special case since mermaids are the most valuable and he was in the position to kidnap a bunch at once.

>>282958029>>282957976 (OP)
I VVILL keep pushing the akainu coup d'tat agenda.

>>282958893
If anything, we see more pirates defending or helping slaves, like the Sun pirates, or Rayleigh saving the girls. Even Law took in a former slave in his crew after they saved him

>>282958617
You’re misremembering things. While CD’s can take slaves from almost anywhere, your average person can’t. What they do is buy them from criminal slave traffickers. Hypothetically speaking if a Marine ship was passing by and they saw a Slave trafficker ship attack an affiliated kingdom they’d be obligated to assist. It’s not the case for the slaves already trafficked.

>>282958893
Kaido doesnt export slaves, he just makes an entire nation his laborers

>>282958055
Our heroes.

>>282958996
So how will he handle koby as his son in law?

>>282958775
I know they can, I'm saying what if they couldn't. Also Celestial Dragons seem to have some limits, even Saint Charlos thought he'd have to bury Fishman Island in money to get away with killing members of their Royal Family.

>>282959026
>son in law
Just a rebellious phase crush.

>>282958843
Mary Geoise and Sabaody are the only WG nations where slavery is practiced, the WG outlawed slavery 200 years ago, what goes on in Sabaody is technically illegal.

>>282958775
>>282958843
>>282959019
You guys missed the point. He was asking IF the world building would be better if CDs restrained themselves and only publicly took non-citizens as slaves.

>>282958893
Normal pirates raid and kidnap people, Koby was a slave to Alvida remember? Rocks rules Pirate Island, of course they have slaves.

>>282958152
>Robin
Perseverance
>Jimbei
Justice

>>282959026
Hibari chan will find a better man than KEKby.

>>282958674
>Yamato's body belongs to Ace
FTFY

>>282959109
FUCKING THANKS. I was getting confused by my replies.

>>282959140
Nah, she's not his type.

>>282959176
What a playa

>>282959176
Did they...

>>282959091
People from non-WG islands don't have any human rights so as long as it's just them getting enslaved it's not actually illegal at all.
That's the whole point of the slave auction list saying people from non-members are fair game.

>>282959109
The worldbuilding might be better but it’s not the message Oda wants to convey. It’s two things happening here, one is that the WG permitting slavery for affiliated nations is just another example of them overlooking horrific shit for a price which is a reoccurring element (Law’s backstory). The other is the message that CD’s have their own laws and rules that apply to them alone. But you could definitely make this work in other ways.

I actually wouldn't be surprised if Oda offscreens this Imu fight because the present day Imu fight still needs to have some surprises.

>>282959205
No but Betty...

>>282959224
Based Toei

>>282958617
It would make more sense, but Oda could also expand on how wide is CDs slavery. I mean, there's not that many of them, so the number of slaves they posess shouldn't be that high, without counting criminals and non-affiliate people made slaves.

>>282959140
We all know she wants Luffy

Whitebeard, Linlin, 15 year old Kaidou, Rocks, Shiki, Rayleigh, Gaban, Roger, Garp, Sengoku and hybrid Saturn could all oneshot me easily....

I actually wouldn't be surprised if Oda chowed down on another week's worth of F-Burgers then ripping ass so hard he has a minor stroke again

>>282958674
I hate that this is probably true, Oda seems to be pushing it, as much as I want her to try to embody her idol's womanizing ways and fuck Ulti

Best end: threesome while Faget goes for groceries

>>282959275
So canon it hurts

>>282959278
We know, Saint Figarland WEAKling

>>282959319
Don't forget this

>>282959345
Or this

>>282959109
Yes. I think people from affiliated nations are protected, but if a Celestial Dragon wants a princess, they'll order CP0 to kidnap her.

>>282959390
Celestial dragon type post

>>282959381
So Cipher Pol are ontologically evil right?

>>282959345
Shes monstrously stronger than Base Luffy so this is actual rape

>>282959390
wow aibro rare oliva art from you? what made you feel in the oliva mode all the sudden?

Why don't the Celestial Dragons just build a farm where slaves will breed new slaves with each other to make a human cattle slave farm? Is that too evil for Imu and the Gorosei or something?

>>282959372
>>282959345
>>282959319
>>282958490
Yamalove'd.

>>282959390
Why Olvia and not Olivia?

>>282959440
What do you think the entire world is supposed to be?

>>282959466
>Olivia
?

>>282959436
well, there's been a few mothers in the manga lately

>regular non-tranny men popping hearts for another man
Seriously though, it's not out of the ordinary for shonen authors to do this with women over women, but I don't recall Oda drawing something this gay with men before, or am I speed reading?

>>282959440
Because it's not as fun as making slaves out of people with real lives.

>>282959390
It's kind of funny how Robin is one of those characters where no one gives a shit about who her lost parent could be. In this case her father.

>>282959454
Goofy is quite lucky

>>282959513
G-5 soldiers did for Sanji I think

>>282959523
probably because the whole backstory of her/olvia already passed, so people don't ever expect or think they'll find out who he was

>>282959471
>>282959516
Fai enough

>>282959560
Why did Oda push her so hard?

>>282959513
I could swear that has happened in other moments too, but I cannot recall a single one.

Sooooo is baby Buggy in God Valley too? He'll have to show up at some point.

Zoro and Nami's birth parents are still a mystery and both of their backstories seem to want you to make note of how mysterious that is

>>282959054
I think the change you suggest would make the CD's at least slightly less monstrous and the WG seem a tastier option than being unaffiliated.

imu is the source of roger's pirate aids

>>282959609
Your birth parents are a mystery you reject

>>282959585
Luffy can feel those colossal tits on his back and still has no reaction

>WOROROROOOO
>CYNTHIA
>YOUR GARCHOMP IS NO MATCH FOR ME

>>282959645
Hasn't activated the Color of Libido haki yet

Remember that two panel flashback for Kaido and we thought that was all of the backstory we were going to get on him?

>>282959636
an I don't intend to solve them

Was Yamato always meant to stay and protect Wano? Or did Oda actually consider her joining the crew after Wano?

ENTER

>>282959684
Oh yh this dude crawled up a giantess vagina

>>282959740
And directly fucked her egg.

>>282959124
>>Robin
>Perseverance
glad to see someone else had the same idea as me. though I like the other anon's suggestion too

>>282959123
Then show me the slaves, Oda has never had a problem showing darkshit, or making pirates do evil shit.

>>282959622
Yeah I think it would make the WG a more realistic organization in a way. Taking foreigners as slaves has been common throughout history everywhere, but you generally don't just go and enslave people a couple of miles away from you.

>>282958891
greed is not just monetary. Being the embodiment of greed means you want everything, tomi, taisei, chikara... and people to dearly care about.

>>282959706
We really don't know.
The fact that Oda made Yamato one of the few people in the world who know Luffy's dream means she's going to be special somehow.

>>282959781
Why is it so hard to believe Rocks was a piece of shit? He led an island of murderers and rapists. You don’t do something like that without being morally bankrupt yourself.

Maybe at the start CDs only took people from unaffiliated people as slaves, but as the centuries went on and their culture became more and more depraved they started enslaving whoever they felt like.

God Valley has the largest gathering of CoC users (past, current, and future) in the series. The second largest is Marineford. Can you guess what's the third largest?

>>282959759
Gaban coats his cock with CoC and fucks her with an giant invisible penis.

>>282959291
>usopps arc
Ishygdtt

Why does she know this?

>>282959763
She surving the grand line for 20 years straight starting at 8yo proves that she must have pre brain brain fruit vegapunk levels of iq

>>282959834
geez I don't know, maybe because Oda hasn't shown us him being a piece of shit with this long ass flashback? The best you can pull is him stabbing Loki, and he ended up being his biggest fan.

Dragon will kill Garling.

But Shanks will kill Dragon.

Luffy and Shamrock will eventually team up to take down Shanks, who dies by his own sword instead.

>>282959935
Robin didn't enter the Grand Line until she was an adult.

>>282959291
Canon asf

>>282959889
So she can pass the knowledge on to Ulti and Faget.

>>282958029
All the important characters established 18 years ago...plus Sabo and Imu

>>282959936
He killed an Admiral.

>>282959993
Sabo debuted 15 years ago.
7 for Imu.

>>282959706
The fact Yamato insisted so much to join the crew was a signal she was bait. Oda also wouldn't throw a wrench into the Monster Trio dynamic with how Jimbe was demoted to Midhat tier.

>>282960011
You lie. It’s still 2021.

>>282959993
Anon, Sabo was 2010.

>>282959993
Anon…

>>282959834
It's embarrassing how hard you are trying sengoku

>>282960011
>7 for Imu.

>>282959781
He's shown it multiple times. Arlong, Alvida, Crocodile, Doflamingo, Kaido, and Blackbeard. What makes you think they are the exceptions? We had Koby save a Princess from pirates who kidnapped her. Rebecca's mother was kidnapped by pirates until Kyros saved her.

>>282960001
and that's bad how?

>>282957976 (OP)
Rocks is still a bastard who robs and kills people for fun, so he'd probably be proud.

It still sucks that Rocks isn't a chaotic bastard who'd pick a fight with everyone though. Imu being at the center of literally everything is boring, like a slow burn Madara/Kaguya combo.

>>282960038
>Itchy nose
>Doesn’t stretch his finger to scratch it
Hackda.

>>282960067
>isn't a chaotic bastard who'd pick a fight with everyone
Then he's just be kaido who we already have.

>Strawhats -- Close Family
>Rayleigh -- Mentor
>Shanks -- Role Model / Father Figure
>Ace -- Sworn Brother
>Sabo -- Sworn Brother
>Yamato -- ?????

>>282959936
>t-the 5 towns wipes off the map were all t-totally full of only evil people, yeah!
>same with the ports, and those raids were only against evil people again!

>>282960118
Yamato = breeding sow

>>282959889
Luffy is going to tell Linlin his true dream which will unlock the Big Mom pirates for the Grand Fleet.

Hot take: Doflamingo should have been the main antagonist of the franchise.

>>282960118
oversized onahole

I lost to Doffy’s cock…

>>282960148
This except Don Krieg

>>282960047
Because, except for the ones you mentioned, no others have been mentioned in canon, there is no mention of the rest doing business in that, so it's not a rule everyone does. Stop moving the goal post and show me where does Rocks is shown having slaves, instead of forcing headcanons.

>>282959560
Yamato should've been way hornier than what we got

>>282960133
You can make a list like that with Luffy if you eliminate context too.

>>282960133
Next SBS I hope someone asks Oda what the fuck Article 18 of international law is supposed to be.

>>282960186
Nobody cares about BUM Krieg.

>>282960175
Viola…Law…

Shanks and Shamrock are basically Dante and Vergil from DMC if you think about it

I am Doffy's cock....

>>282960011
Is Imu going for the world record for being silhouetted the longest?

>>282960278
Hahahaha how are you so small?

>>282960263
Except way less cool.

Would be funny if the yami yami no mi is the only way to prevent Imu from hijacking Teach's body since he's part Davy.

>>282958152

>Luffy
Pleasure, Loyalty
>Zoro
Obsession, Intensity
>Nami
Security (this is why she's greedy - people criticize money hoarders, but those who come from poor beginnings are often people desperately trying to secure the safety of a "nest", like the one Nami lost)
>Sanji
Compassion, yes
>Usopp
Bravery, yes
>Chopper
Tenacity (he saw something real happen, as fantastical as it was, and is everyday working towards that lofty peak through his study and practice, even if it's not emotionally related to his dream every day)
>Robin
Rebellion, and yes, perseverance/tenacity (she and Chopper are both astrologically ruled by the old man of limits and death, Saturn - carrying on the knowledge of their old mentors, but limited by reality - but Robin has always been rebelling against the system that tried to kill her, never once believing she's wrong, always believing in the knowledge that would shake the world to it's core)
>Franky
Creative/spontaneous/intuitive
>Brook
Passionate (Aries are a physical/energetic sign and passion is a fuel of music)
>Jinbei
Confident (Also an aries, acted as a leader for Luffy with no hesitation)

>>282960052
Marines are like cops, overall they’re a net positive. And Admirals help uphold the system along with the Gorosei and Holy Knights.

>>282960201
Nice picture of Ulti’s sunglasses.

>Shamrock is featless
>Qilingham is a joke
>Garling was offscreened even in his prime and has no feats
>Gunko is a mind controlled sock puppet
>Sommers is no diffed by Rayleigh and Gaban
God's Knight stock is below the 9th circle of hell

>>282960198
Luffy is unique, and we've clearly seen Rocks act more brutally than Luffy. Literally the only difference between between Rocks and Blackbeard we've seen so far is that Rocks values and trusts his friends. Rocks still wants to become King of the World at the end of the day. I don't get why you guys want Rocks to be this gay ass revolutionary who frees slaves and shit. That would be incredibly lame.

>>282960113
Nah, Marine Propoganda Rocks was even crazier, enough to make Roger and Garp protect the CDs of all people. Now it's just going to be Uno Reverse Rocks being put out of his misery.

>>282960133
>Destroyed 1 nation in 2 years
Pathetic, he'll never rule the world if that's the best he can do

>>282960346
>Qilingham is a joke
Why? He's been pretty consistent.

>>282960346
>Qilingham is a joke
Joke characters are the most dangerous kinds

>>282960376
He's a goofy dragon man and when he's not he's just hot. He's probably gonna unsummon all his summons when Usopp scares him to unconsciousness

>>282959176
If Ace was a real man he would have impregnated a random girl on his journey, so that one day he could have his own Blackbeard to take revenge for him one day. It feels like a big moral in one piece is you gotta have kids so one day they can futher your goals when you inevitably get killed.

>>282958029
Garling ? most likely will serve tea to everyone else

>>282960350
Luffy is not the only one who doesn't deal with slaves; a good chunk of pirates don't care about the trade. Even Doflamingo didn't care about losing that revenue; it's likely the market is already dominated by groups with connections with the Marines and WG. I'm not saying Rocks was a saint, but it's stupid to invent evil shit; neither Oda bothered to even hint.

If I was at God Valley things would've gone down different, that's all I'm saying

>>282960466
Sengoku...

>>282960338
The only thing they have managed to do is to create a world overwhelmed by pirates and state-sanctioned mass murders.

>>282960531
>>yfw rocks' least favorite food is cherry pie

>>282960466
we know Ulti

>>282960531
that's why Luffy has his will

>>282960466
sure..fraudgoku

Mihawk is the most successful character ever in One Piece
>Pursued his dream
>Achieved it at a pretty early age
>Had a cushy job where he couldn't get in legal trouble and could basically just do whatever he wanted
>Fucked around doing whatever because he's basically retired and set for life in his early 40's (which might as well be your 20's in One Piece)
>Found an apprentice to surpass him so he can still have at least one more good fight
>Got fired from his cushy job but then transferred immediately to a slightly less cushy but vastly more fun job where he might actually get a good fight in again
He's winning at life

>>282960637
Does he even train?

>the real reason kaido was trying to build a military for the last 20 years to destroy the world government was to take down satan after personally fighting them at god valley and losing his good friends rocks and whitebeard to them both
>that's why he still idolizes rocks even at onigashima
Bros....... Is Kaidou the most redeemed person yet?

>>282960682
He was still an incredibly terrible person

>>282960637
>Entire life purpose is to lose to zoro
I can't imagine how sad that is fo him. All he does is nothing but wait for zoro to beat him. Can anyone truly like such a character?

Pre timeskip:
>Meet Pirate Captains with different values
>Save a kingdom or two
>Look for gold in the sky
>Fight the Government as a team
>The New World is pretty dangerous
Oda has kids:
>WB is the perfect father figure
>Don't let the fish children become racist
>Save the giant children from being kidnapped
>Don't blame children for their grandparents actions
>Marry off your daughters to a good man
>Feed the starving Wano children
>Tear your body apart to keep your daughter healthy
>Save the giant children from being kidnapped.. again

>>282960577
They’re not responsible for the great pirate age moron, Roger is.

>>282960682
He wanted to create a massive war to destroy everything.

>>282960682
Making him a machiavellian gar from makes him a good person. Personally, however, it makes him a lot cooler.

>>282960682
I've forgiven him so I'd say yes

>>282960710
He wouldn't feasibly be able to rule the world after destroying the WG if he had. He would have been the means but not the end goal. The tsunami washing the trash away from the beach, not remaining afterwards.

Luffy beat the wrong enemy...

>>282958055
Blackbeard has the strangest crew in One Piece history

aibro if you're here requesting RobinxBoa pressing their boobs together in an onsen type setting, please.

>>282960637
Both he an Zoro have nothing going for them but autismal hyperfixation on swords

>>282960682
>Ordered 5000 SMILEs when Vegapunk is one island away
Vegapunk loves funding, he'd probably have built him something cool

>>282960637
and he also fucks perona

GIWTWM

>>282960733
Tomino won
Fuck adults, the future belongs to the next generation

>>282960783
Am I the only one who thought it was odd that the WG would allow Vegapunk to set up on an island so far out from HQ and just beyond Yonko territory?
Was there no other place closer to the redline?

>>282960626
He would have made sure every slave died. Garp was a failure, allowing so many to escape.

GIWTWM

>>282960852
Punk Hazard was near the Red line but it blew up
Yet another mistake from Jaygarcia 'Man of science' Saturn

>>282960314
your picks for Zoro, Chopper, Robin, Franky and Brook show that you really thought about this. I could've never come up with those traits but now that I'm thinking about them they work on so many levels. Robin is rebellion against the world personified, Franky's whole deal is his spontaneity. Even for Zoro obsession is a good pick though I'd have personally gone with Rigor perhaps

I don't understand the ones you picked for Luffy or Jinbei

Saturn is a hero.

>>282960734
A pirate promise for a legendary treasure was a sure spark, but the groundwork was laid by the massive poverty caused by the Celestial Tribute, tolerance of criminal empires like the yonko, and the abuses from the marines. This is why, despite the One Piece being decades without being found, the world still produces criminals like crazy.

His standing is far higher than it was at god valley. He lost the fight and got beat up, but survived. The same sort of growth that lots of people have in OP. Not to mention, it's been decades since that point. Look at how different the emperors became by the current day, Garling is likely no different. Imu allowed him to join the 5 elders. I think he's going to be dangerous when they finally have to face him.

>>282960730
>Shanks' entire life purpose is to be killed by blackbeard.
I can't imagine how sad this is for him. Can anyone truly like such a character?

>>282960138
>>282960166
So Future Wife?

>>282960962
Shanks will lose to BB, but it could go either way as to whether he dies or not.

Is Kaido top 5

>>282960921
Its a hellhole planet with no generalized education system allowing upward mobility so crime is inevitable

>>282961129
Not even top 20.

>>282961129
1. Imu
2. Joyboy
3. Rocks
4. Harald
5. Roger

>>282961129
He's our Top Guy if nothing else

>>282961129
in stealing fruits from his crewmates

The OP world map has US state sized landmasses on it in the blues. My question to Oda is what the fuck are those countries and why do they not seem important given their gargantuan size?

So, about those spoilers..

>>282960682
Like with any titan at this point, what he cares about and what he's willing to do for it is admirable. But he has little care for things outside his tunnel vision, which makes him a bastard. Everything outside his path can get fucked

>>282961145
Most islands are ruled by kings in a feudal structure; there is no real upward mobility, even with education, and that's if you live in a WG country. Because if not, you are everyone bitch, including the Marines. No shit, there is a lot of people who try their luck in the sea, even if they are not aiming at the One Piece.

>>282958029
Fuck that shitstain Koby, I’ll never accept him.

>>282961203
He's your top.

>>282961277
But industrialization exists so upward mobility should be possible

>>282961328
spoken like a true cornholin' faggot-ass huh anon

>>282961353
Only in select islands or factions, most of the technology is hoarded by Vegapunk in his personal "laboratory/themepark".

Where are the republic islands in OP?

>>282961366
Yep, you truly did.

>>282961399
You showed us all how, bud!

>>282961390
Vegapunk hoards non commercial tech, the man would never deprive people of the casual wonders of science

Where is Destiny Island in One Piece?

What makes Sakazuki make this face?

>>282961410
Followed your example.

>>282957976 (OP)
this lineup is genuinely so disgusting if you take it in a vaccuum, WB can tank islands and Rocks can just fly on Kaido's back

there has to be a reason Imu is so overpowered because even with all the shit that's happened I don't honestly see it without someone here getting domi reversi'd

>>282961412
That man only thing he gave to the world of note is killer robots to the genocidal government, and engine boats that can cross the calm belt.

>>282961428
Sabo killing him.

>>282961428
>when you find out who is fucking your daughter

>>282961515
Koby is literally a homo

How did a leaker sketch better than Oda himself?

man I can't wait for next, Rocks and friends vs Imu will be great

>>282961548
Proof?

>>282961592
I don't get it

>>282960905
>Luffy
I'm an astrologyfag that's been interested in their birthdates - with all the other esoteric stuff that's been in the series lately, I wouldn't put it past Oda and his crew to have been very deliberate about the date choices.

Luffy is a Taurus. An earthy, physical sign. Practically the defining trait of Taurus is that they love food, and Oda has always been adamant about how highly Luffy loves meat above all. They love the earthly pleasures of life. Music, touch, fun. But they're also very hardworking and extremely stubborn. Like a bull. Nobody is making Luffy do anything he doesn't want to do. Taurus is associated with the 2nd house, which is about establishing yourself and your beliefs.
It's strongly about family and the home you come from - kinda like 4th house/Cancer/Nami, but that has a more emotional turbulence to it.
It's also a sign that has a lot to do with loyalty. Luffy's success has had a lot do with how loyal he is to others and how loyal others are to him.
Ruled by Venus, the planet of love.

>Jinbei
Usopp, Brook, and Jinbei are all Aries.
Usopp has the young quality. (Aries is the first sign, having to do with the very essence of your core self, the break of dawn, the first naive life after the dissolvement of Pisces) - he's naive and very boyish, thinks very highly of himself sometimes and has a lot of energy, but hasn't actually tested himself in experience very much. Like a ram that will bravely try to challenge any opponent but gets destroyed.

Brook is the Mars, sexual, passionate energy of a rockstar. Rockstars tend to be male sex symbols and Aries is Mars/the male sex symbol. Mars = Passion = Good music

Jinbe stepped forward for Luffy and rescued him with no hesitation. Provided him guidance when he was lost. Aries is associated with leadership, trailblazers. A brave ram that would never back down.

>>282961635
he has a vagina

>>282961651
Hibari's gay for Koby then.

>>282961635
wasn’t affected by Hancock’s devil fruit powers, please read the manga.

>>282961644
if Aries fits on to Usopp, Brook and Jinbe at the same time then it seems like your can interpret literally any zodiac sign on to any character type

>>282961552
It’s the Yamatoschizo agenda to minimalize Carrot’s presence in the series.

>>282961644
>>282961706
Horoscopetards go die

>>282961678
>>282961651
>Hibari thinks she's in love with a boy
>Koby has actually just been a flat girl this entire time
>Akainu has to deal with the fact that his daughter has a lesbian crush
SITCOM KINO

>>282961710
Hey how did you snuff us out like that? Stop.

>>282961735
you're such a scorpio

>>282961678
>>282961746
canon

>>282961748
She looks weird with small boobs

>>282961793
That's looks cool, but it's also really outta place in OP.

>>282961839
I like the retarded face this artist gives all his girls

>>282961793
It’s just random nonsense happening for no reason. Plus long unbroken shots are impressive in live action, but not in animation.

>>282961899
bro they did all of this in one take

Reminder that you don't owe your parents anything. Blackbeard must be pretty ashamed that his father coasted for years and lost to Imu whereas he'll be successful.

>>282961793
I am tired of Gear 5 shenanigans and it's going to be like this for the rest of the series

Need 10 foot tall fat titted nonbinary autistic gf

>>282961748
>>282961868
>>282961839
MADE for Ulti...

Foxy could beat any Gorosei or Admiral, he just has to land the Slow Slow beam.

Humping the gay out of Miss Yamato

>>282961979
Jack…

>>282961803
CUTE GIRL!

>>282961960
TRVKE

>>282962014
Girls humping each other is hot.

>>282961960
>>282961998
I don't think Foxys power works the way you remember it working

>>282962014
>>282962044
TRUE

>>282962014
>What people do not go to prison.

JACK! JAAAACK! DID I TELL YOU ABOUT THAT ONE TIME ROCKS CALLED ME A GOOD BOY WHEN I FIRST ATE MY DEVIL FRUIT, JUST BEFORE WE FOUGHT SATAN TOGETHER!

… oh, I already did? shit, like a million times? WHATEVER! LEMME TELL YOU AGAIN! ROCKS WAS SO COOL, JACK!

Do you think Yamato rapes Ulti? Since Ulti is a prisoner?

Is it over?

>>282962045
>t. gorosei or admiral scared of losing to foxy

>>282962139
Only when alcohol is involved.

>>282962156
SHITSOPP sucks anyways
>>282962183
Does... does she at least take Ulti's handcuffs off?

Yamato letting Kawamatsu having his way with Ulti to release his twenty year long blue balls frustration.

>>282962172
Neither of those would lose to Foxy in any possible universe. Foxy is weak and a coward.

Does Imus demon ability affect Devil Fruit users?

>>282961706
I find Brook and Jinbei to be less strongly traited characters, but yes, the human psyche and experience has many layers and so does astrology (we mean it when we tell you your tropical sun sign is only a sliver of the pie, but these fictional characters with far fewer layers aren't gonna have their authors picking and designing their time of birth/natal charts - more the general theme of their egos)

Every sign means something to everybody, because it represents the journey of the soul we all must take. In some avenue and time of your life you will likely learn from or be gifted by all of them. (And your chart/transits/dashas/sidereal often reflects these specificities, but I don't think everyone should waste time looking into the script as opposed to just living as they're compelled to and possibly failing/exceeding/defying the gameplan)
I think we choose the planetary code we're born into, like poneglyphs that we can find guides or spoilers from our unborn selves if we seek them. But I don't think everyone is meant to read them, and at the very least do it after you're 30, after your saturn return, to review your journey so far as opposed to anticipating/worrying/sapping your natural compulsions

>>282962215
>Foxy is weaaakkk annnnddddd aaaaaa cowwwwaaaaaaaaarrrrr*gets boxed*
You are SCARED. SCARED of Foxy.

>>282962221
Find out in 2 weeks, maybe 3

On one hand, I think Oda is setting Shamrock up to be a different sort of Celestial Dragon with his own dreams and goals. I mean, he even showed a weird amount of respect to Loki.
On the other hand, Shamrock DID orchestrate the kidnapping of the giant children and attempted destruction of Giant history

>>282962262
shitter with no haki isn't doing anything in HAKI PIECE lmao

>>282962262
No, nobody is scared of Foxy.

>>282962139
Every time she has to be reminded not to do Kaido's snowmen or make Oden boiling jokes.

>>282962221
I think it's more so the abyss mark that likely stems from Imu's powers rather than whether or not they have a devil fruit.

>>282962228
Y'know what maybe the Elders are the good guys

Maybe those with Devil Fruits can’t turn into Demons because they have the “Devil inside them” already or whatever

>>282961914
And all it took was giving the cameraman multiple concussions and seizures.

>>282962262
Foxy is called "The Silver fox" because he will always be the inferior Boxer no matter how many traps he uses

>>282962198
I will never forget in Egghead when the Vegapunks were more scared of being sniped by Zoro and Robin than Usopp, the crew "sniper"

>>282962139
It’s actually the other way around (consensually)

do you hold your bros hands when you piss /opg/?

>>282962374
I don't have any hands

The Trust Fund pirates
Captain: Portgas D. Ace
Helmsmen: Yamato
Chef: Charlotte Katakuri
Archeologist: Marshall D. Teach
Mascot: Edward Weevil
Navigator: Buckingham Stussy II
Fighter: Monkey D. Luffy

>>282962338
FUARKKK, it's the KING of ONESHOTTING YONKOS!!!! I kneel!!!

Ace should have never been born Garp

>>282962406
Sengoku...

>>282962295
Anybody else find it strange he called Mary Geoise the Holy Land?

>>282960637
no, Oda said he turned out to be an autist due to a betrayal
It wasn’t all easy for him

>>282962228
based, saved.

>>282962389
Your hooves still count, Chopper.

>Rocks the strongest
>lose against Imu
>Blackbeard the laziest
>wins against Imu

We still have Loki vs Harald btw

Fuck you Whitebeard.

>>282962441
A U R A

>>282962441
>My son is the Sun God Nika
>… what
>(dragon beats Smoker)

>>282962482
Blackbeard…

>>282962515
>>282962441
>NOOOO YOU CANT SAY THE N WORD DRAGON!

If you have a devil fruit, you can't get Reversi'd because you are already a devil

>>282962482
Squard...

Luffy's mom: Roger
Ace's mom: Garp

>>282962482
Stussy…

We love and respect marines

>>282962571
Send a buster call

Perona.

>>282962482
Laido...

>>282962598
rape bait for Devon

>>282962571
they do a decent job

Maybe Harald wanted Loki to have the devil fruit so he wouldn’t change into a demon and later why Rocks would turn into a demon but not WB and Kaido

Too many retards in the WB crew

>>282962617
Poster's barely disguised fetish

>>282962482
Magma brat...

>>282962598
Mihawk's fucktoy.

>>282962622
I won't forget that the most damage from the WB pirate's side of marineford came from this guy when he attacked his own captain.

We love and respect pirates

Dragon is so lucky

>Arcsys making more FighterZ DLC
Bros the feud with them and Bandai is over. We may actually get One Piece FighterZ when they finish that marvel slop

>>282962622
He was right. WB was sacrificing his crew for Ace knowing full well that the Gorosei would activate if things got too out of hand. WB really believed Ace was the sun god of prophecy because he was a hyper-literal simpleton who thought Fire Logia = The Sun

>>282962454
He won because he was the smartest. He got the fruit he's father was specially looking for to counter Imu.

>>282958451
I love Maffey!

>>282962681
kek nice try blud. Bandai hates one pice

Reject nips embrace china

>>282962697
How the fuck did Blackbeard just coast around in WB's crew for decades and never become a commander? He had to have been stronger than a bum like Thatch

>>282962681
The moment Bandai-Namco dies is the moment that One Piece videogame development-rights finally falls in the hands of competent developers.

>>282962736
Sometimes being promoted is more headache than its worth. When you're a wagey you learn to just coast, conserve your energy

>>282962722
If they get over the gacha craze, they can actually make something good

>>282962697
It really feels like Rock's is living a second life through Blackbeard. Either Eris imposed all of Rocks' life goals unto Teach at a young age or Rocks has possessed him thru Davy voodoo.

Also, what two fruits would those be? Darkness and Nika? Would the darkness fruit be best for Harald since he's so big and casts a shadow?

>>282962736
he wants to lay low as much as possible till the right moment came up once he found the yami yami no mi it's time to get the ball rolling at that point towards yonko hood status.

>>282960290
Vegapunk was silhouetted for 11 years so Imu still has a long way to go.

>>282962826
One for himself (Darkness fruit) which he failed to find, but luckily his son found it. The other is a complete mystery could be the Nika fruit or something else for Harald for the unstoppable duo.

What if Imu is a chocolate beauty?

>>282962696
No, Akainu told him that WB was going to sacrifice his allies, so his main crew can avoid getting killed. That is why he stabbed WB.
But you are right, WB was throwing his fleet into a obvious trap, and would have been absolutely annihilated if it wasn't for Luffy showing up.

>>282962959
malemu fags will be big mad

>>282962608
>>282962660
You fags wish.

>>282957976 (OP)
I don't think

>>282963064
Right, I forgot; Mihawk is Perona's fucktoy.

>>282963028
Built for Big Mochi.

>>282962139
>Do you think Yamato rapes Ulti?
You can't rape the willing, but yes. Yamato tops Ulti in the bed, like she does with all her women.

w-where did my fellow, opbros go...

FUCK...break week has truly started...

>>282958456
>She spoke about a single guy by smearing an entire dinasty's last name and the people of Wano, nuanced as they were, got it.

>>282960872
I want Kiku so bad, her size is such a turn on.

I suck dick constantly

>>282963407
Garp...

>>282959140
Fag's been pretty active.

>>282958726
He failed after all.

>>282963406
we know Zoro

>>282963340
I'm currently here mostly lurking. Haven't posted in hours now.

>>282959665
Kek

>>282963486
Why was it called Egghead when his head is an apple??

>>282958893
>and Blackbeard
What slaves does he have?

>>282960105
Buggy’s aura suppressed him.

>>282958113
>N*il polish
garbage

>>282963543
Why didn't Vegapunk use an eggshell instead of an apple?

>>282963614
Intellectual property infringements. Tamago holds the patents

>>282960739
>world
He means Imu.

Imagine being this handsome forever. He really mogs all the other elders

>>282961793
The infinite potential of animation, and they go with that shit. It's crazy that an episode of fucking Naruto captured the essence of Gear 5 better than anything we've seen in OP.

>>282963340
I’m playing Ghost of Yotei and Monster Hunter to pass the time, at least until the next spoilers drop. This will be a very long week, it’s especially bad for me because this chapter gave me a crazy itch for One Piece.

>>282963737
Imu is emperor Nero
Nika is God
Joyboy is Jesus
Ju Peter is St. Peter

Additionally, Nero crucified St. Peter, and there’s a literal cross in Shepherd Ju Peter’s name when written in Japanese. Moreover, the reason his name is split into “Ju Peter” is because the “Ju” part is written as a cross in japanese, thus making him “St. Peter”. He’s also the only Gorosei to not have a royal-sounding name, he literally has one of the most agrarian and working class names there is.

We finally found him. The silhouette was real.

btw, what makes One Piece unique from typical shonenslop is that it doesn’t make mocking edgy comments on religion. it criticizes bad actors who try to use God’s name to murder people (Caribou), or declare themselves as God to rule over others (Enel, Imu), while praising good people for using God as an example of benevolence and virtue (Kuma).

>>282958721
>Nothing short of being essential to Rocks' death could redeem him
There's another way

>>282963872
Kuma is based on the protagonist of Green Mile and Jesus Christ. His fruit is one for one the Green Mile guy's power, to remove people's pain and sickness from their body and take it in himself. Not only that but he's a large muscular man who towers over everyone with a heart of gold.

>>282963090
that’s hot, Perona’s perfect.

>>282963867
Lmao

>>282963737
Too bad there's no sex allowed

>>282963873
Eh I like it better in Oda's style vs Cutesexyrobutt's. More appealing anatomy too desu.

>>282958674
Only the young Momonosuke.

>>282963361
Yes unironically. Do you genuinely believe Momo and Hiyori wouldn't beat the shit out of anyone who tried to act bigoted to Tama?

>>282963924
post it on catbox, not everyone has twitter.

Kaido a cute.

>>282963818
He's heroic and masculine in comparison to his decrepit peers. He obviously groomed Garp into starting SWORD and will back a palace coup later in the story.

>>282963977
Hiyori said that to mock Orochi and his death, just as Orochi has done to her father by boiling him alive.
That said, I was initially upset by the Kurozumi pogrom, but considering that every senior and adult Kurozumi actually supported the patriarch’s planned assassination of the shogun + every other daimyo, they got what they deserved.

>>282963933
built for baby making

>>282963933
i like both, oda just lack in the muscle definition department for females

>>282958682
>Your black is beautiful!

>>282959318
>Oda seems to be pushing it
Yes?

Luffy please have sex with me

>>282964227
go to sleep bonney

>>282964227
hancock, rebecca, vivi, shirahoshi, marguerite, alvida...

>>282964227
Alvida…
Zoro…
Nami…
Robin…
Hancock…
Shirahoshi…
Rebecca…
Law…

>>282957976 (OP)
rocks would have called teach a bitch multiple times throughout the series but he'd be proud of what he accomplished and of his crew

>>282958221
is curiosity good enough?

>>282964227
smooka-san...

The holy land is afraid of me.

>>282964360
Rocks-sama…

What Ace and Teach did wrong was they never became hakiswordsmen like their fathers.

>>282964360
Terrorist Minks

>>282964343
I think it fits.

>>282964402
Haki swordsmen is an outdated style and died with Oden, it's all about Mythic Zoans these days

>>282964402
It's a shame Teach abandoned the claws for a devil fruit merchant fighting style. It's as close as it gets to a bladed weapon in his father's style, and he bitch-slapped Ratnks with those beauties to show who's boss. It's sad he tossed them away.

>>282964481
Are there more mythic Zoans now than Logias?

Heck are there even enough natural elements left?

All I can think of is
>Salt (which is just reskinned Crocodile fruit)
>Naturally occurring sulfuric acid
>Stone

>>282963361
>and the people of Wano, nuanced as they were, got it
Oda didn't say that.
Instead he implied Tama might be in danger if she's found out.

>>282964666
wasn't pica the stone fruit user?

>>282964695
Pica was a Paramecia, and my guess for what S-Crocodile's fruit is since it's the closest thing to a Logia and sand is just grinded up rock anyways. I'm guessing he can use lunarian flame with stone to create lava like an Akainu paramecia.

>>282964695
Pica was a "stone assimilation" paramecia.
In other words, Oda knew he might want to introduce a proper rock logia later down the line.

>>282964725
>lunarian flame with stone to create lava
Retard.

>>282964798
Yes. Zoro said King's flame is like magma. Magma is just burning stone, as opposed to sand which is grinded stone.

Given the green bloods all came from paramecias of the Impel Down prisoners, particularly the Doffy family and Baroque works, what other fruit would fit Crocodile?

>>282964666
>Oil
>Air
>Dust
>Uranium- nuclear self destruct

Some anon said Loki will have a mythical rainbow logia, model: bifrost and it kinda works

>>282964826
Speedread your post. I'm the retard here.
Common theory is the Doku Doku, poison hook and all.

>>282964864
Also plausible. It's logia like. I'm sticking with Pica though simply do to the stone element sand shares with it.

so basically imu is shadow figure devil and will be sucked in by blackbeard power

>>282964666
>Heck are there even enough natural elements left?
I really don't like the forest fruit being a logia because I don't think it fits in with the rest. but when plants are allowed you could also do stuff like foilage or grass or mushroom spores or whatever

>>282964837
Does it have to be "mythical rainbow"? They have rainbow bridges in Elbaf, maybe it's a common thing. I like the idea of a Glass logia.

S-Croc is definitely seems the worst off since all of his inherited battle instincts come from an advanced logia user.
To even come close to how Croc fights he'd need some kind of special paramecia, and I doubt Vegapunk had Katakuri's DNA.

>>282964666
>>282964837
cloud logia

>>282964911
maybe trebol's fruit is a special paramecia and they have access to that

>>282964939
No Trebol was just a really skinny guy pretending to be a logia.

>>282964959
based fraudmaxxer

>>282964911
I remember someone Anon had a theory that S-Croc would have Pica's fruit, and combining it with his Lunarian flames would be sort of a lava bender.

>>282958308
that's actually what I like the most about him. He is a scumback, a shit fighter and uses any underhanded method to get a win. A true villain.
Better than simply a strong guy that just happens to be evil

>>282964979
That was literally me and I posted it again here. Hello again.
>>282964725
>>282964826

>>282965022
Oh shit, I remember it from like two months or so back I think.

>>282965039
Correct. Though I swear I posted about it like 2 years ago during Egghead.

>>282965039
>>282965076
Oh you even replied with basically the same reply about it being like lava bending.

>>282964162
Much better, and understandable his buff women are rare and underwhelming for the muscle-lovers. Not a fan of the whole thing myself though.

Would you be willing to gen York in that couch pose earlier with her green knee-high socks on only?

Somehow vegapunk returned

>>282958053
>Lord Imu's powers I require
>I avoid anyone Admiral tier or higher
>Give me unarmed civilians or I retire

>>282964911
>To even come close to how Croc fights
Crocodile often turns his sand into sharp weapons or sandstorms that act like tornadoes / wind blasts. He also has a poisoned hook. They'd just give him Baby 5's Arms-Arms fruit (they got it when Sai brought her along for a diplomatic mission. Remember he was at the Holy Land.)