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Anonymous No.282968511 >>282968539 >>282968629 >>282968849 >>282969562 >>282970054 >>282976198 >>282980547 >>282990189 >>282990485
yuri gaps
Anonymous No.282968539 >>282986009
>>282968511 (OP)
Anonymous No.282968558 >>282968962 >>282984028
Anonymous No.282968581
Manio next series when
Anonymous No.282968585
Anonymous No.282968606 >>282968619 >>282969908 >>282970286
Anonymous No.282968619 >>282969908
>>282968606
Why is she licking her nose
Anonymous No.282968629 >>282975772
>>282968511 (OP)
Big tanuki and small wife.
Anonymous No.282968849 >>282968877
>>282968511 (OP)
Familiar artstyle but I don't remember it, who?
Anonymous No.282968876
stairs yuri
Anonymous No.282968877
>>282968849
Hachiko, she does incest yuri alot.
Anonymous No.282968880
Anonymous No.282968962
>>282968558
Mona frenching Shion or riot
Anonymous No.282968964 >>282968989 >>282968990 >>282969416 >>282969425
So does it actually help the mangaka if you read the free version of their manga on Comic Walker?
For example if I click on this: https://comic-walker.com/detail/KC_006092_S/episodes/KC_0060920001500021_E?episodeType=first
Does it help the manga stay alive in any way?
Anonymous No.282968989 >>282969056
>>282968964
A little bit. It just tells the publisher more people are reading. It also helps if you flip to the very end and click the heart button.
Anonymous No.282968990
>>282968964
Depends on how the platform handles it, for example if they could be discounting all stats from outside Japan.
Anonymous No.282969043 >>282969057 >>282969126 >>282970241
Đồng chΓ­ nam kα»³... αΊ’nh tΓ‘c giαΊ£ cΓ‘...
Anonymous No.282969051
LOL
Anonymous No.282969056
>>282968989
Why doesn't noighd leave a TL note to ask people to go there and scroll through and leave a like if they can't purchase it? It's free and if it helps even just a teeny little bit it's still better than doing nothing.
Anonymous No.282969057
>>282969043
>Dong
Sir, this is a yuri thread.
Anonymous No.282969108 >>282969136
Is the kasumi manga dead?
Anonymous No.282969126 >>282969147
>>282969043
say fish in bjetnamese
Anonymous No.282969136
>>282969108
Not yet, author marked her wrists but still has to find the box cutter.
Anonymous No.282969147
>>282969126
cΓ‘
Anonymous No.282969374 >>282970582
The series is released for free on Comic Walker
https://comic-walker.com/detail/KC_006092_S
never forget to pay it a visit everytime there's a new chapter and obviously never miss to buy the volumes when they're out, the second one releases in a couple of weeks.
https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4046850213
Show the author that scans bring more readers.
Anonymous No.282969416
>>282968964
Somewhat. Comic Walker likely collects page views, and they also have likes. Either or a combination of the two is used to create rankings by genre of what’s popular on the site. Now, no manga will be axed or continued based on Comic Walker rankings. There’s no* money in this. What it does do however is let more readers discover it, and they may then buy the tanks.
How do they collect page views? They’ll at the very least filter out f5 spamming idiots, something like one view per IP per day. They may have more complex algorithms to filter out bots. They may straight up filter out all non-Japanese IPs because of horrid signal to noise ratio, they have few real international readers and likely gorillions of Russian, Chinese etc bots. But generally: We don’t know. They don’t want us to know. Knowing would make it easier for rabid fans to bot their favorite to #1. Just like Youtube doesn’t want you to know how their algorithm works, Comic Walker wants to keep theirs hidden.
What we do know: Rankings focus on recent activity more so than long term data. Clicking on it three days later when Noighd released the translation won’t do much, you want to click on it at the same time when everyone else clicks on it: Shortly after release.

Congratulations, you now know more about Comic Walker than tech illiterate mangaka ever will.

*You can buy older chapters in the app, this of course directly supports artist & manga. No idea how many people actually do that though. Performance on Comic Walker may also be used to predict future tank sales, but this could well backfire on a manga if few fans religiously click on it every day, giving it a disastrous online performance to tank sales ratio.
Anonymous No.282969425
>>282968964
Ultimately sales which will determine if it will stay alive or not, big magazines have the case the means to keep titles just for portfolio but this isn't the case here.

Though everything can help, maybe number of views can stimulate the publisher on trying to some promotional campaign if they believe there can grab more sales this way.
Anonymous No.282969463 >>282969487 >>282969499 >>282969523 >>282969539 >>282969616 >>282969706
This series was never at the risk of axing the fuck are you on about.
Anonymous No.282969487
>>282969463
Blame the author
Anonymous No.282969499
>>282969463
Author said she can barely muster the motivation to keep drawing since big bad evil Noighd made an unofficial translation.
Anonymous No.282969523
>>282969463
It now is because of /a/
Anonymous No.282969539
>>282969463
it's because of noghid curse
Anonymous No.282969543
This is what happens when you glorify menhera yuri and menhera authors.
Anonymous No.282969562
>>282968511 (OP)
onee-chan HALP HALP I'm stuck in the yuri gap
Anonymous No.282969616 >>282969622
>>282969463
The series has been at risk of getting axed since chapter 1 when the author decided she would refuse to promote it online.
Anonymous No.282969622 >>282969676
>>282969616
Go suck elona’s dick elsewhere
Anonymous No.282969676
>>282969622
Retardee trannies like you are the reason the author fell for the trannysky scam
Anonymous No.282969679 >>282969694
miman oneshot tl doko
yurijob tl doko
skirt tl doko
Anonymous No.282969694
>>282969679
This is a typesetting issue.
Anonymous No.282969706
>>282969463
How do you know it's not at risk of getting axe?
Anonymous No.282969722 >>282969739 >>282969759
lets recap:
we only read the scanlations because she won't mtl her own comic
if it doesn't sell it's her fault for not using twitter
i gave her an entire page view so it's not piracy
she has brain problems for complaining about piracy
she didn't even mean it, she's just an alcoholic
γ€Žεƒ•γ―ζ‚ͺくγͺい』
Anonymous No.282969739
>>282969722
>she has brain problems for complaining about piracy
Yeah.
Anonymous No.282969749
why are trannylators so slow lately?
Anonymous No.282969759
>>282969722
Yes, not promoting her own comic in the only plataform with visibility is objectively her fault and if she gets axed then complaining about retards outside her country reading the manga will sound really silly, not that anyone will see it since she will complain on bluesky.
Anonymous No.282969796
Anonymous No.282969908 >>282970286
>>282968619
>>282968606
Anonymous No.282969974 >>282977627
is this yuri?
Anonymous No.282969996 >>282970264
Just give her an oneesama (younger) already. She already has the boxcutters prepared.
Anonymous No.282970011 >>282986058
Itougods...
Anonymous No.282970037 >>282970059
07 yurifag arc soon?
Anonymous No.282970049
Noighd unironically thinks that paying a small mangaka in exposure is a good thing
Anonymous No.282970054 >>282970082 >>282970128 >>282970140
>>282968511 (OP)
What ever happen to Itou's CF fox marriage manga? Did it get axed or is it just not getting translated?
Anonymous No.282970059 >>282970104 >>282989314
>>282970037
I think he went from a yurifag to a non yurifag considering he no homoed satorika relationship
Anonymous No.282970063 >>282970134
The final solution to the Renacrime question soon.
Anonymous No.282970082
>>282970054
Drew a shikishi for it recently and no one is translating it because redrawing and typesetting Itou art is genuine hell.
Anonymous No.282970104
>>282970059
He has a precedent so his return to form is soon. Inshallah.
Anonymous No.282970128
>>282970054
it's only gotten 3 updates in 2 years, it's clearly not going anywhere
owloli won
Anonymous No.282970134
>>282970063
Renako will legit be gang raped in a women's prison.
Anonymous No.282970140
>>282970054
She got into adult CF…
Anonymous No.282970155 >>282970163 >>282970171
what happened tomorrow?
Anonymous No.282970163
>>282970155
Tomorrow never came.
Anonymous No.282970171
>>282970155
Tomorrow is cancelled forever
Anonymous No.282970172
Nothing ever happens.
Anonymous No.282970192 >>282970205 >>282970500 >>282971003
Anonymous No.282970205 >>282970226
>>282970192
not yuri
Anonymous No.282970223 >>282970242
Anonymous No.282970226
>>282970205
Look closer.
Anonymous No.282970241 >>282970368
>>282969043
sorry comrade, it was a closed off signing booth. she was in there, behind security
i didnt buy the book, so i couldnt enter
and even if i did, no pictures allowed it seemed
Anonymous No.282970242
>>282970223
Anonymous No.282970264 >>282970293 >>282970369 >>282971118
>>282969996
a drawing of jun buying 40 boxcutters
Anonymous No.282970286 >>282970314
>>282968606
>>282969908
Kaho a shit.
Anonymous No.282970293 >>282970331 >>282970369
>>282970264
Anonymous No.282970311 >>282970376
What would late-stage yurism look like?
Anonymous No.282970314
>>282970286
Anonymous No.282970331
>>282970293
Anonymous No.282970368 >>282970429 >>282970619
>>282970241
Why is it always southerners? Us northerners only get endless floods this year.
Anonymous No.282970369
>>282970264
>>282970293
I picked Uta in Second Light, kinda felt bad to NTR Nina but it was worth it.
Anonymous No.282970376
>>282970311
Reaching the buying power of a fujoshi?
Anonymous No.282970429 >>282970511
>>282970368
the event was full of yaoi and fujos so idk if you would want that
Anonymous No.282970500
>>282970192
>voices all the worst girls
cursed
Anonymous No.282970511 >>282970662 >>282971182
https://www.fb.com/share/p/19vXA9Rjid/
There's a short Q&A with fish author. I'll try my best to translate it when I get back (or someone else could do it).
>>282970429
Some yuri is still better than nothing/endless gachashit like in the north.
Anonymous No.282970582
>>282969374
I caught up right now. It was pretty funny. I knew THAT scene was going to happen but it still remained impactful. I wonder where the story is going.
Anonymous No.282970619
>>282970368
Must be nice atleast living in a place where such events have the possibility of happening.
Anonymous No.282970662
>>282970511
>She bought ao dai
Based.
Anonymous No.282970992 >>282971031 >>282988875
Anonymous No.282971003
>>282970192
Our yuri queen!
Anonymous No.282971031 >>282971067 >>282971086 >>282971131 >>282971187 >>282972416
>>282970992
Really hoping the current wave of Yuri popularity will ride the wave and become mainstream like BL.
Anonymous No.282971067 >>282971111 >>282971358
>>282971031
BL is not mainstream, it has a gigantic number of consumers, but if you put boys kissing in anything you will immediately lose all of your male audience.
Anonymous No.282971086
>>282971031
I really hope it doesn't. Yuri attracts enough trannies and schizos as it is.
Anonymous No.282971111 >>282971194
>>282971067
Have you somehow missed the massive memes that were Felix and Astolfo?
Anonymous No.282971118
>>282970264
She orders in bulk from Amazon.
Anonymous No.282971131
>>282971031
Monkeys paw could curl and end up falling into Live Action pile like BL, I am still peeved about Ayaka and more recently Futari escape getting live action.
Anonymous No.282971182 >>282971205 >>282971252 >>282971277
>>282970511
there was little to no yuri presence in the event

here is the TL

Fishe author (S): First of all, thank you all so much for coming to the meetup today.

Q: What was your first impression of Vietnam?
S: Yes, this is my first time in Vietnam. I feel like the food here is really delicious, and also, the aodai is super cute.

Q: Of all the characters in [fishe], who do you feel you're most like?
S: I don't think I'm like any of them (www). But if I had to say who I can relate to the most, it'd probably be the main character, Hinako.

Q: Then which character would you most want to be friends with?
S: Without a doubt, it'd definitely be Miko. Her straightforward, friendly, and approachable personality makes everyone want to be friends with her.

Q: Among the characters, who do you find the easiest to draw, and conversely, who is the hardest?
S: The easiest would have to be Shiori because I love drawing her face; she's so cute. The hardest is Hinako because it's difficult to express the emotions on her face.

Q: What motivates you to keep drawing manga?
S: First and foremost, it's because I love manga. When I was just starting out in the industry, I didn't know anything, but thanks to my editor's help, I was able to keep going.

Q: Circling back to Vietnam for a bit, you mentioned the food is delicious. What specific dishes did you enjoy?
S: Yesterday I had some delicious 'rice paper rolls with noodles and pork' (*1) and I also ate 'broken rice'. Today I ordered delivery (I couldn't catch this part and the translator didn't say either). I hope I can keep eating Vietnamese food when I get back to Japan.

TL note 1: imagine an eggroll, but not fried, and the filling is rice noodle and boiled pork, dipped in shrimp/fish sauce (strong smell)
Anonymous No.282971187
>>282971031
BL is only popular as shipping fandom in a non-BL series, actual BLs aren't that popular.
It's like seeing Madoka and Bocchi being popular and say that yuri is popular.
Anonymous No.282971194
>>282971111
Traps are not considered BL, actually the BL audience hates "draw a girl call it a boy", it's the only type of male homosexual work which is popular with men and not women.
Anonymous No.282971205 >>282971252 >>282971277 >>282971924
>>282971182
(At this point, the interpreter asked the audience to recommend some dishes for sensei) (I'll skip these)

Q: Sensei, you said the aodai is very cute and that you already ordered one for yourself. When it arrives, could you wear it for everyone here to see?
S: No way, I'm too shy. :)))

(I'd die desu)

(The floor is then opened for questions from the audience)

Q1: Sensei, I'd like to ask, in the period after the accident and before she reunited with Shiori, how did Hinako manage to hang on and keep living?
S: It was all thanks to Miko-chan, who came to encourage and help her.

Q2: I'm studying to become a mangaka. Could you give me some advice?
S: Just draw a lot of the things you love. When you do that, you'll enjoy the time you spend drawing, which will make you draw even more, and that's how you'll improve your skills.
(Sensei whispers to the translator)
S: Ganbatte ne! I'll be cheering for you.

(Poster's commentary:)

After that was Sensei's live drawing session. There's a chance she'll post it on Twitter, so I won't spoil it beforehand. Normally, Sensei uses her own personal setup, so she really tried her best today drawing on a tablet. Not only that, she drew Hinakoβ€”the very character she said was the hardest for her to draw. When it comes to spoiling her fans, if Sensei is #2, no one is #1.

Before the meetup ended, Sensei had a few words for everyone:

S: I want to thank all of you for making the long trip here, especially since the weather wasn't great. I will continue to do my best with my art, and I hope all of you will continue to support me. Thank you all so much."
Anonymous No.282971252
>>282971182
>>282971205
Thank you Viet anon
Anonymous No.282971277
>>282971182
>>282971205
Thanks, I was getting around to it. Shame that there wasn't any northern nationalist present to recommend her some northern dishes, so that one day she could ọc ọc here.
Anonymous No.282971358 >>282971748
>>282971067
Yuri also has lots of consumers but they're all men who refuse to spend money. Just look at AriSaku, /a/'s favorite yuri. Anons make memes and actively participate in discussion but I bet not even 5 people here have supported Igarashi directly.
Anonymous No.282971387
yuri has more potential for mainstream than BL but normals need to be converted
Anonymous No.282971528 >>282971585 >>282972181
Which one of you faggots made this.
Anonymous No.282971574 >>282971634
Anonymous No.282971585
>>282971528
@grok explain this
Anonymous No.282971634
>>282971574
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Anonymous No.282971729 >>282973240
are you a sendaist or a miyagist?
Anonymous No.282971748
>>282971358
I don't think the western consumer is reference for yuri or BL in the japanese market anon, the amount of merch some yuri series are getting indicate the opposite actually
Anonymous No.282971898 >>282971941 >>282971978
Both BL and Yuri are niche, one is just more niche than the other
Anonymous No.282971924
>>282971205
during the event, i spotted a green manga drawing and a standee. both are expensive and they were sold out later as i hopelessly tried to find it again
the standee was really good though and yes it was green. it has the two faggots and a background separated into 3d
Anonymous No.282971941
>>282971898
Yes but BL is a niche that makes almost as much money as everything else in the industry.
Anonymous No.282971978 >>282972427
>>282971898
BL is in no fucking way niche. It is what most women consume
Anonymous No.282972020
The great yuri awakening is when all of the most mainstream artists and authors start making yuri.
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Anonymous No.282972181
>>282971528
shatery yuri board maybe
Anonymous No.282972416
>>282971031
The ghost BL is not even that good.
Anonymous No.282972427
>>282971978
Niche is not necessarily small, just specific
Anonymous No.282972733 >>282972775 >>282973042
Yuri will never be as popular as BL because fujos don't give a shit about canon or reality, they will enjoy everything from bait to subtext to explicit yaoi
A man could be actively fucking a woman in front of them and they could still imagine him being reamed by another man
Anonymous No.282972775 >>282973042
>>282972733
Fujos don't need to give a shit because they don't have yumes breathing down their neck.
Anonymous No.282972787
Anonymous No.282973042 >>282973104 >>282976704
>>282972733
Let's be clear, there are legit gay romances in BL, but those are not as popular with fujos because lots of them disassociate the genre with homosexuality and like anon and a large amount of them are fine buying yaoi doujin of whatever popular franchise where the guys are just fucking/raping each other but ultimately will go back to their wives or girlfriends to the responsible thing for a guy which is to build a family, in their vision of course.

>>282972775
It's even worse for them because there is zero chance of any of their favorite shonen to ever go explicit yaoi.
Anonymous No.282973104
>>282973042
The disassociate with homosexuality thing is only true in CN circles because JP fujos are like purity fags but will openly write NTR.
Anonymous No.282973240
>>282971729
Maikaist
Anonymous No.282973456 >>282973643 >>282973688 >>282973891 >>282973898 >>282973911 >>282973936 >>282974092 >>282975202 >>282975746 >>282982398
how does yuris does sex?
Anonymous No.282973643
>>282973456
Nobody has observed it and lived to tell the secret
Anonymous No.282973688
>>282973456
>get very close
>rub bits together
>???
>profit
I don't know any more than that.
Anonymous No.282973891
>>282973456
orgasm
Anonymous No.282973898
>>282973456
Asumi-chan explains everything
Anonymous No.282973911
>>282973456
With boxcutters.
Anonymous No.282973936 >>282986098
>>282973456
lesbians are the only race that can have sex with their own hand
Anonymous No.282974092 >>282974133 >>282974201 >>282976942
>>282973456
>scientists say Lesbian sex is better than straight and gay sex
hmmmm how?
Anonymous No.282974133
>>282974092
They're biased lesbian scientists.
Anonymous No.282974201
>>282974092
sex is terrible without a hole
sex is good with a hole
sex is great with two holes
more holes = more better good
Anonymous No.282974757
noighd where? It's been two morrows.
Anonymous No.282974836 >>282974924
id want sendai to kiss me before sleep
Anonymous No.282974924 >>282975100
>>282974836
Miyagi...
Anonymous No.282975015
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Anonymous No.282975086 >>282975392
Anonymous No.282975100
>>282974924
Miyagi wouldn't want that
Anonymous No.282975167 >>282992372
Hanatori is so sexy
Anonymous No.282975202 >>282975252
>>282973456
handholding
Anonymous No.282975252
>>282975202
God yuri is pretty faggy, huh.
Anonymous No.282975392
>>282975086
interesting, i missed this and yuri ninshin (at least the descriptions and reviews make it sound like some kind of publication) completely
Anonymous No.282975409 >>282975596 >>282976288
So the scanlations for AriSaku are dead now, right?
Anonymous No.282975596 >>282975648
>>282975409
yes, scanlators are an honorable caste that upholds the ancient code of conduct, foregoing any personal kudos for the author's wishes
Anonymous No.282975648
>>282975596
noighd will honor it by committing seppuku with a box cutter
Anonymous No.282975729 >>282975962 >>282979237
The Kinoko manga is yuri?
Anonymous No.282975746
>>282973456
>Fingering
>Fisting
>Cunnilingus
>Analingus
>(Double-sided) dildo
Anonymous No.282975772
>>282968629
Tiny wives are perfect for carrying!
Anonymous No.282975962
>>282975729
The what?
Anonymous No.282976198
>>282968511 (OP)
Yuri age gap is pure kino
Anonymous No.282976213
Big boobies chinese isekai 6
https://mangadex.org/chapter/b742a421-d169-4154-aeb9-0f7fd045a3d9

The Yandere Sister Just Wants Me to Bully Her 15
https://mangadex.org/chapter/20dc555f-2668-468b-874b-a3cfa754cabe
Anonymous No.282976288 >>282976495 >>282977842
>>282975409
Noighd already said he doesn't give a fuck about Igarashi's principles and that if he drops it, someone else would just pick it up (even though no one was translating it for literal months before he decided to).
Anonymous No.282976495 >>282976580
>>282976288
If noighd drops it I will pick up, pick the shittiest resolution, use the shittiest font and will do autistic shitty like give my own jokes on every page and will ask for donations so I can pay for my bar mitzvah just so the whole internet will come down on him for being a massive weak faggot.
Anonymous No.282976580
>>282976495
He can pick up watayuri and mimans puppet one-shot instead.

Please. I'm desperate at this point.
Anonymous No.282976704 >>282977177 >>282977945
>>282973042
>lots of them disassociate the genre with homosexuality
I genuinely don't understand how this happens.

>"Yeah, they kiss and cuddle, but it's not gay or anything."
Is some proper fuckin' doublethink.
Anonymous No.282976942 >>282977231
>>282974092
sex with men ends when the man cums
sex between women ends when they are both satisfied
Anonymous No.282977177 >>282977335 >>282977854 >>282977945
>>282976704
It's easy when you understand chinese and japanese history which was full of massive faggots who would have concubines as wives, this is a very similar mindset where fujos basically don't see guys as faggots unless they are trying to be a couple and having gay sex is just something they do for stress or to assert dominance.
Anonymous No.282977231
>>282976942
Sometimes the man can outlast the woman. Being able to have unlimited orgasms doesn't mean you can actually handle it.
Anonymous No.282977335
>>282977177
Christianity ruined japan.
Anonymous No.282977627 >>282979220
>>282969974
hard to say from the free preview chapters
also the pv is too much noise even for me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H03qfzfE3HI
Anonymous No.282977729 >>282977813 >>282978004
Could somebody spoonfeed me woth good age gap yuri manga?
Anonymous No.282977813
>>282977729
https://dynasty-scans.com/tags/age_gap
Anonymous No.282977842
>>282976288
Look at how many comments the last chapter has. Someone else would MTL it within a week.
Anonymous No.282977854 >>282977964 >>282978087
>>282977177
... That's stupid. Delusional, even.
Anonymous No.282977945 >>282978175 >>282978188 >>282978497
>>282976704
>>282977177
Japanese men threw a huge fit when they tried to allow women to participate in theater, to play female roles. Because they, unironically, thought women could never play "charming heroines" anywhere as well as young boys do.
Conversely we had the Takarazuka Revue, which convinced women in japan that the ideal male ... is a handsome woman with short hair.
The whole country is in the closet.
Anonymous No.282977964
>>282977854
Well duh, but yaoi manga are fantasies that often play into this like anon above said, fujos don't care if they guys just fuck and return to their families as if nothing happened.
Anonymous No.282978004 >>282983833
>>282977729
What type of age gap are we talking here?
Anonymous No.282978026
your next post will be "japan was always an inclusive transgender society"
Anonymous No.282978087 >>282979300
>>282977854
It makes sense enough. They want men to fuck and have romantic relationships, because its aesthetically appealing. They don't care about them being 'gay'.
Which isn't really any different from most guys liking girl on girl because 2x hot girls but they don't care for them being lesbians either.
Both want to see something hot, but also don't want to feel excluded.
Anonymous No.282978175 >>282978383
>>282977945
Things get funny when you realise Kabuki started with female only troupes.
Anonymous No.282978188 >>282978239 >>282978497 >>282978780
>>282977945
>the ideal male ... is a handsome woman with short hair.
Well, japan has evolved and now their ideal boyfriend is a handsome woman, with long hair.
Anonymous No.282978239 >>282978273
>>282978188
Poppy and Geeta eat this everyday?
Anonymous No.282978273
>>282978239
Poppy pulls on that ponytail every night
Anonymous No.282978383
>>282978175
Because they were literally prostitutes. Thats why they only allowed men later. So only half of them were prostitutes
Anonymous No.282978497
>>282977945
>The whole country is in the closet.
This explains entirely too much.

>>282978188
I was gonna bring up Rika! The absolute Alpha Stacy who makes women swoon just by existing.
Anonymous No.282978780 >>282978892 >>282978947 >>282986621
>>282978188
Japan's tomboys are great because they're androgynous
Anonymous No.282978892
>>282978780
I wouldn't call Rika a tomboy. She is a handsome woman, but very classy and composed.
Anonymous No.282978947
>>282978780
Less tomboy and more ikemen.
Anonymous No.282979220
>>282977627
apparently the marketing genre for this is "hong kong noir punk fantasy girl's sword action"
Anonymous No.282979237 >>282979437 >>282979998
>>282975729
The new-ish one? Could maybe go there eventually if the author feels like it, but so far no. Still a cute relationship, I'm enjoying it.
Anonymous No.282979300 >>282979922
>>282978087
Yeah, the truth is that the foundation of the genre when it was trying to establish tropes already was trying to run away from the narrative it was just a phase or a setup for threesomes, ultimately publishers set on a position where they make clear the girls are not attracted to guys or at least not attracted to guys anymore but avoid using certain words and touching on certain subjects related to the reality of being a homosexual in japan. Not that yuri does not have stories that would be the yaoi equivalent, but they are so minor it's pointless to make a point about those.
Anonymous No.282979437 >>282980170
>>282979237
She has the exact flavour of retard rizz like most social anxiety yuri mc, it may never go romance but it'll definitely be funny.
Anonymous No.282979922 >>282980091 >>282980498 >>282981327
>>282979300
Yuri escapes the ghetto largely thanks to the fact that, unlike BL, its cultural underpinnings (tropes if you like) were established by an actual lesbian. And for the most part was written by women or male authors strongly influenced by these female authors, when it was in its infancy.
Now the refusal to mention homosexuality isn't due to publisher demand though. Its just japanese aversion to othering themselves. You won't find a mangaka having their protagonist talk about being a lesbian unless they specifically want to make a poont of doing so, because a japanese person (or rather teenage girl) wouldn't do that unless they wanted to make a point of doing so.
If we had more adult MC yuri, we'd also see more レズ being thrown around.
Anonymous No.282979998
>>282979237
i thought the mc was badly written
switches between being anxious, braindead, and normal entirely based on what's most convenient for the plot
frankly i don't think it's yuri at all, but it'll clearly center around a 5 girl team
Anonymous No.282980091 >>282980281 >>282980370 >>282981758
>>282979922
I'm not sure about this, for example you think Kirara would be fine with an author making a point a character is homosexual?
>If we had more adult MC yuri, we'd also see more レズ being thrown around.
Maybe we would, but again, we have plenty adult yuri where the word was never said. You don't have that many authors like Sal Jiang who write actual lesbian adult characters.
Anonymous No.282980170
>>282979437
if anything she'll get the blonde stacy
Anonymous No.282980281
>>282980091
>example you think Kirara would be fine with an author making a point a character is homosexual?
I'm sure some publishers or editors wouldn't like it, for the same reason many of them told their authors yuri doesn't sell. But its not 'necessary' for them to do it, thats my point. The authors don't do it on their own anyway, there is enough self-published yuri to proof that point.
There are things publishers provably have clamped down on, for political reasons. Marriage being a somewhat common example, though it really depends on the publlisher. But its telling we have more talk of weddings in yuri than we have of being lesbians.
Anonymous No.282980318
Amayo trailer and ch41 doko
Anonymous No.282980370 >>282981325
>>282980091
>I'm not sure about this, for example you think Kirara would be fine with an author making a point a character is homosexual?
If Shueisha has no problem with Teren writing it, I doubt Kirara would care besides editorial concerns.
Anonymous No.282980460 >>282980538 >>282980567 >>282980637 >>282982232
Did you live long enough to witness the return of Mahoako? You can only reply to this post if you're not dead.
Anonymous No.282980498
>>282979922
>random troon on 4chan offended yuri manga isn't about waving rainbow flags
Anonymous No.282980538
>>282980460
>You can only reply to this post if you're not dead.
Well fuck you I'm going to reply anyway.
Anonymous No.282980547 >>282980588 >>282980690 >>282982283
>>282968511 (OP)
Age gap yuri, my favorite.
Anonymous No.282980551 >>282980633
Kiwi is shit.
Anonymous No.282980567
>>282980460
I swear I never lost hope!
Unlike for WataYuri
Anonymous No.282980588 >>282981417
>>282980547
It's not confirmed that Iono is 30-something years old.
Anonymous No.282980614
Nanjamo is shit.
Anonymous No.282980633
>>282980551
Shut up Sulfur, its time for your injection
Anonymous No.282980637 >>282980687
>>282980460
I thought the author gave up, but I'm so glad it's coming back.
Anonymous No.282980646 >>282980683
Gurumin is god.
Anonymous No.282980683
>>282980646
You're not supposed to be in this thread, Liko.
Anonymous No.282980687
>>282980637
Author didn't give up but his health was definitely trying to give up on him.
Anonymous No.282980690 >>282980784 >>282980835
>>282980547
Dot is for Riko ONLY
Anonymous No.282980775 >>282980886
>I will live to see Dark Medic animated
Please!
Anonymous No.282980784
>>282980690
Liko can have her on weekends.
Anonymous No.282980835 >>282980886 >>282980891
>>282980690
NYAAA
Anonymous No.282980849
Anonymous No.282980886 >>282980934 >>282981012
>>282980775
That would be S3, but I feel like as long as the author gets enough material out (early 2027 if the manga doesn't go on hiatus again), a continuation of the anime past S2 is a pretty safe assumption already since the series seems to have hit critical mass with merchandise.

>>282980835
I love jealous weed cat.
Anonymous No.282980891
>>282980835
Didn't say she is only for Dot.
Anonymous No.282980934
>>282980886
>That would be S3
I know and there wasn't enough material for S3 yet, now there is hope.
Anonymous No.282980956
Anonymous No.282981012 >>282981170 >>282981281
>>282980886
>seems to have hit critical mass with merchandise.
>all this merch
>still no Leberblume or Alice figgies
>still only a shitty Magenta one, I didn't get because I thought KDcolle would definittely make one too
At least the one Azul they made was her whorefrost version.
Anonymous No.282981170 >>282981352
>>282981012
I have it, it's actually decent but you can tell the artstyle is different from the KDColle. I'll definitely get the latter too when they announce it because I want everyone in their regular outfits.

>Alice
Every non-PUP scale so far is cast-off with nipples so I wonder if they'd be based enough to do that with an Alice figure too.
Anonymous No.282981281
>>282981012
>Leberblume
I just paint a shadow with two eyes under my Locos skirt when she arrives next year. Easy 2 figgies for the price of one.
Anonymous No.282981325
>>282980370
Watanare is not on shonen jump though
Anonymous No.282981327 >>282981672
>>282979922
>Yuri escapes the ghetto largely thanks to the fact that, unlike BL, its cultural underpinnings (tropes if you like) were established by an actual lesbian. And for the most part was written by women or male authors strongly influenced by these female authors, when it was in its infancy.
It’s less about who started what and more about yuri never having reached the self reenforcing runaway effect that BL has where most authors are women who not only have never talked to or even seen a man, judging by how they write, but also haven’t even read a work made by a (gay) man because those are completely drowned out by the fujo flood.
If yuri starts to explosively gain popularity, it could still happen, so be careful what you wish for.
Anonymous No.282981352 >>282981425
>>282981170
>it's actually decent
The faace put me off, alongside the lack of a proper costume. But maybe it looks better in person.
>Every non-PUP scale so far is cast-off with nipples so I wonder if they'd be based enough to do that with an Alice figure too.
I hope so, but I'm not betting on it.
Anonymous No.282981375 >>282981779 >>282984170 >>282984707
I miss yuzumori
Anonymous No.282981417
>>282980588
She’s still decently older than Dot at least.
Anonymous No.282981425
>>282981352
>the lack of a proper costume
Yeah, this is the big one. Honestly they could've just included the pasties as an alternate nipple cover in a figure with her regular outfit. I guess they could still do that.
Anonymous No.282981672 >>282982627
>>282981327
Modern yuri only exists because of the, largely male, writers that made both lesbian porn and lesbian romance works in the 80s, which fed into the genre and allowed it to spread out with the yuri renaissance in the early 00s. And even in those, you can clearly see the influence of the s culture literature that influenced their entire idea of girl-girl relationships. Cream Lemon Escalation is set in a religious all-girls school long before MariMite existed.
Where something started from matters a lot, the process of becoming "more popular" already happened 20 years ago and is happening again right now. You should be more worried about foreign, tangentially related, literature influence feeding into it.
Anonymous No.282981758 >>282982886
>>282980091
>I'm not sure about this, for example you think Kirara would be fine with an author making a point a character is homosexual?
>retard who doesn't read kirara voices his ridiculous opinion about what they do and don't allow
Anonymous No.282981779 >>282984707
>>282981375
Anonymous No.282981810 >>282981893 >>282982283
Extremely blessed pair, glad that Dot gradually hijacked the third protagonist spot despite not being planned from the start.
Anonymous No.282981893 >>282981971
>>282981810
The Dot/Gurumin persona differences make this pairing so fun. Weird how all the streamer yuri manga don't do anything with this.
Anonymous No.282981971
>>282981893
https://dynasty-scans.com/series/my_best_friend_who_i_love_fell_completely_in_love_with_my_vtuber_self
Anonymous No.282982232
>>282980460
l asked someone to unkill him yesteday
which one of you did it
Anonymous No.282982283
>>282980547
>>282981810
How does she do it?
Anonymous No.282982398
>>282973456
holding hands, interlocking fingers, looking into each other's eyes
Anonymous No.282982488 >>282983936 >>282986441
I wasn't expecting to see so much Pokemon in the yuri thread.
Anonymous No.282982507 >>282982532 >>282982924
>Kiwi x Utena
boring
>Kaoruko x Haruka
normal

>Kiwi x Kaoruko
peak
>Haruka x Alice
wonderful
Utena x Azure
cinema
Anonymous No.282982532
>>282982507
Thanks, bocc.
Anonymous No.282982627 >>282983722
>>282981672
Marimite didn't succeed among girls because guys were jerking off to some lesbian OVAs, most of which ended in tragedy, in the 80s.
Anonymous No.282982886
>>282981758
I don't see you posting a kirara manga using the word lesbian or gay
Anonymous No.282982924
>>282982507
Kaoruko x Haruka is more exciting when you add corruption into the mix. I want the taint of corruption to spread.
Anonymous No.282983405 >>282983557 >>282983595 >>282983818 >>282983819
ok i read the latest semifriends and... that's it?
i've been hearing about 10 pages of steamy explicit sex, and there's not even a nipple
they're not even naked
i'm not saying i need any of that, there just isn't anything particularly saucy here to fuel this sad excuse for a controversy
Anonymous No.282983557
>>282983405
It's kirara
Anonymous No.282983595 >>282986688
>>282983405
If you're referring to that tweet of the person reading Kirara during class, I don't think it's supposed to be particularly serious.
Anonymous No.282983722 >>282983969
>>282982627
You need to work on your reading comprehension.
Anonymous No.282983725
oh know
Anonymous No.282983781
Anonymous No.282983800 >>282985638
Anonymous No.282983818 >>282983848
>>282983405
There was a controversy? Sofar I know people just made jokes over the straight up sex being in a kirara magazine.
Anonymous No.282983819
>>282983405
Kirara does not do nipples, also the last issues is not even them having sex yet.
Anonymous No.282983833 >>282983887 >>282983915
>>282978004
Loli-anything kek
Anonymous No.282983848
>>282983818
Some anons have a hard time understand other anons being ironic
Anonymous No.282983887 >>282983953
>>282983833
>loli x baby
You're sick.
Anonymous No.282983893 >>282984218
cutie
Anonymous No.282983894 >>282983914 >>282983997 >>282984041 >>282985850
>Female pedophile lust for an elementary school girl
>Josei
How?
Anonymous No.282983914
>>282983894
JS(JoSei)
Anonymous No.282983915
>>282983833
Also
>loli
anything 13 and under
Anonymous No.282983936
>>282982488
I wasn't expecting so much yuri in pokemon and yet, here we are.
Anonymous No.282983949 >>282984729
I feel like I haven't read Rapeness in a while
Anonymous No.282983953
>>282983887
I wouldn't knock it til I hadn't tried it, I'll tell you that much.
Anonymous No.282983969 >>282984232
>>282983722
>modern yuri only exists because of the, largely male, writers that made both lesbian porn and lesbian romance works in the 80s
>where something started from matters a lot, the process of becoming "more popular" already happened 20 years ago and is happening again right now
The reason the modern yuri genre exists is because of Marimite (which is why you even bring it up). Of course Marimite did not create the idea of girls being lesbians at all-girl catholic schools in Japan, that was already implemented in Japanese culture. But for your broader point to be accurate, the yuri OVAs of the eighties would have contributed to the popularity of Marimite, which they very likely did not on account of the target audiences being completely different.
Anonymous No.282983997 >>282984041
>>282983894
When it comes to yuri, all the usual magazine demographics are pretty much meaningless.
Anonymous No.282984009 >>282984178
Saunoa ch0-1
https://mangadex.org/chapter/38ff1a33-bd58-4ee5-8a09-252f1a1857e5
https://mangadex.org/chapter/6136b93c-d84d-46f2-9eb6-1e850aa06ea6

Yuri 100 ch19
https://mangadex.org/chapter/73754a60-2e94-48e8-b31c-3f4232420613

Sugar Girl Drip Extra 3
https://mangadex.org/chapter/6f3e1582-ad2f-40c2-ace2-2c95a073628e
Anonymous No.282984028 >>282984069 >>282984170
>>282968558
Was this series a disappointment?
Anonymous No.282984041 >>282984400 >>282984955
>>282983894
>>282983997
Though Oneeloli is something very popular with women and very little with men
Anonymous No.282984047 >>282984219 >>282985215
Oh YH this week.
Anonymous No.282984069
>>282984028
It could have been better, felt like there was too much redundant introspection
Anonymous No.282984170 >>282984225 >>282984707
>>282984028
It was never one of my faves, but it was fine. Ending came a little suddenly, but I feel I'll be more okay with it the further I get from that. I did stop buying the tanks, though.

>>282981375
Now THIS was a disappointment.
Anonymous No.282984178
>>282984009
Anonymous No.282984209
Anonymous No.282984218 >>282984600
>>282983893
new chapter translated when?
Anonymous No.282984219 >>282984785
>>282984047
>no Zenkowa
I sleep
Anonymous No.282984225
>>282984170
>disappointment
I never read the last chapter so I was never dissapointed
I assume it ends with hot /ll/ sex
Anonymous No.282984232 >>282984292 >>282984441 >>282984590
>>282983969
>The reason the modern yuri genre exists is because of Marimite
The modern yuri genre is something extremly different from the s culture revisitation that was Marimite. You skipped the "modern" part, which was the whole point. Yuri had already changed from what it was in the past, to become what it is now.
>But for your broader point to be accurate, the yuri OVAs of the eighties would have contributed to the popularity of Marimite,
Marimite was a big push, but it wasn't solely responsible for the yuri renaissance. And the defining feature of that renaissance was that, unlike Marimite, it wasn't something contained to the shoujo demographic Marimite was aimed at. In fact Marimite itself largely contributed to the yuri genre because it was the entry point for boys and men into the shoujo side of the genre as well.
You think when they made StoPa they tried to get the Marimite reading girls as target demographic? No, there already 'was' a yuri genre outside of that, that was now growing. If not for those works in the 80s, not as bleak as you paint them either, yuri wouldn't have become what it is now and likely would have died quickly again, because Marimite very much wasn't intended to be yuri.
Anonymous No.282984292 >>282984441
>>282984232
>In fact Marimite itself largely contributed to the yuri genre because it was the entry point for boys and men into the shoujo side of the genre as well.
That was the biggest point. Men already consumed yuri and some girls did too (way less actually), Marimite is when both sides realised the other existed and had cool shit.
Anonymous No.282984400
>>282984041
Ryouta's manga is in storia dash. It really doesn't matter or mean anything.
Anonymous No.282984404 >>282984453
marimite this, marimite that
you've had fifty (50) years to read shiroi heya no futari and onii-sama he
Anonymous No.282984441 >>282984563
>>282984232
>>282984292
There were works that would fit the definition of yuri before Marimite, but there was no actual commercial use of the word yuri, the author obviously didn't intended for it to be yuri as (non commercial) yuri works at the time were mostly explicit lesbian stories, what Marimite actually showed the industry is that there was a market for ambiguous female relationships that would easily be interpreted as romantic without being explicitly marketed as a gay story.
Anonymous No.282984453 >>282984566
>>282984404
I read the first and saw the latter, but what does that have to do with anything?
Play Eien no Filena the video game, if you really want to see yuri from before Marimite.
I'd say read Hen, but no one should have to read that unless you are a yuri scholar and do it for historical value
Anonymous No.282984563 >>282984643 >>282984756 >>282984756
>>282984441
>but there was no actual commercial use of the word yuri
Thats a.) not true because the term had been in use for general lesbianism since the 80s and b.) has nothing to do with Marimite, because the term became 'the' term because of a yurifag cabal that founded yurihime.
>what Marimite actually showed the industry is that there was a market for ambiguous female relationships that would easily be interpreted as romantic without being explicitly marketed as a gay story.
Lol lmao even. Marimite was important because it was very very good. Hen wasn't marketed as "yuri" [(because the term wasn't in use for anime and manga then) and its leads actually set out to marry by the end. Marimite was no more gay than Battle Athletes which was very successful in its time as well. People knew the market was there, they did not know it spanned demographics the way it did.
Anonymous No.282984566 >>282984594
>>282984453
It's amazing one of the worst "yuri" manga of all time is also written by the author of one of the worst "sci fi" manga of all time.
Anonymous No.282984590 >>282984625 >>282985218
>>282984232
>The modern yuri genre is something extremly different from the s culture revisitation that was Marimite
>there already 'was' a yuri genre outside of that, that was now growing
The modern yuri genre is also extremly different from those porn OVAs. Yuri didn't even exist as a codified genre until after Marimite came around.

>you think when they made StoPa they tried to get the Marimite reading girls as target demographic?
For the girls who liked the quasi-yuri aspects of Marimite, why wouldn't they?

>yuri wouldn't have become what it is now and likely would have died quickly again, because Marimite very much wasn't intended to be yuri
Even without Marimite, you had works that were aping on works like Azumanga Daioh and mahou shoujo crazy. In a world without Marimite, Saki/Nanoha/Strike Witches all still exist and are heavily influential.
Anonymous No.282984594
>>282984566
In all fairness, it does also have the distinction of being the first manga to end with a explicit lesbian relationship. Even if it is a very bad manga.
Anonymous No.282984600
>>282984218
yestermorrow
Anonymous No.282984606 >>282984857 >>282985017
What is it about Yuri that attracts so much scifi fags
Anonymous No.282984625 >>282984704
>>282984590
>In a world without Marimite, Saki/Nanoha/Strike Witches all still exist and are heavily influential.
Yeah, thanks to those aforementioned 80s shows, in whose tradition they are made. You are contradicting yourself right now.
Anonymous No.282984643 >>282984739
>>282984563
NTA but Murcielago author actually said the same thing about Marimite, though in his opinion it set back the market from what it was supposed to be.
Anonymous No.282984704 >>282984769
>>282984625
>thanks to those aforementioned 80s show
No, they were thanks to mahou shoujo works in the 90s like CCS, Sailor Moon, and Utena (which were primarily marked towards girls).
Anonymous No.282984707 >>282984730
>>282981375
>>282981779
>>282984170
Should I read this?
Anonymous No.282984729
>>282983949
cancelled for rape
Anonymous No.282984730
>>282984707
I loved it but the ending was rushed and terrible, she probably had to wrap it up quickly
Anonymous No.282984739 >>282984834
>>282984643
It did, Marimite is the reason we were trapped in gayngst for another decade, while seinen yuri had already gone on to have girls marry eachother and fuck for a decade.
Anonymous No.282984756 >>282984812
>>282984563
>>282984563
"general lesbianism" is not a product.

>Lol lmao even. Marimite was important because it was very very good. Hen wasn't marketed as "yuri" [(because the term wasn't in use for anime and manga then) and its leads actually set out to marry by the end. Marimite was no more gay than Battle Athletes which was very successful in its time as well. People knew the market was there, they did not know it spanned demographics the way it did.
It was a very influential story, no doubt about it, even the cabal you mention specifically picked the series artists to do the covers of their magazines. I think the number of Marimite doujins speaks for itself in how popular it was with the "yuri audience" of the time.
Anonymous No.282984769 >>282985131
>>282984704
If you don't realise how much Nanoha and Strike Witches have from Battle Athletes it just tells me how extremly limited your knowledge is.
Anonymous No.282984785
>>282984219
Kuwabara is a sleep
Anonymous No.282984812 >>282984900
>>282984756
>"general lesbianism" is not a product
Live action movies used the term in their title. If you are a baby at this and don't know the history of yuri, I suggest going and reading up on/watching the material relevant tomour genre before Marimite.
Anonymous No.282984834 >>282984972
>>282984739
I agree but also disagree, I think it may have set back the nature of the stories themselves but I don't see the market growing to what it became today without going over this process.
Anonymous No.282984857
>>282984606
All about exploring a better future.
I'm now reminded of how I hunted down all those physical copies of the localised Battle Binder, solely based on a single page on /u/ about obscure yuri
Anonymous No.282984900 >>282985008 >>282985050
>>282984812
We have another word for those live actions movies you are talking about and the reason why they are also irrelevant as any manga of the same nature.
Anonymous No.282984955 >>282988110
>>282984041
There was a recent event for the 10th anniversary of Happy Sugar Life and reportedly 70% of the audience were women
Anonymous No.282984972
>>282984834
Marimite gets a smidge too much credit for accelerating a process on its way by the time it was made. Lesbian relationships in manga were already becoming more of a thing and the biggest contribution Marimite made, besides being good and commercially a success, was bringing back the trappings of s culture into modern literature. Which I love and so won't hold it against Marimite, but it was values and ideals from 80 years before made under adverse circumstances that didn't intend to portray something to be idealised.
Anonymous No.282984979 >>282985373
yuri began with bible black
Anonymous No.282985008
>>282984900
You have no idea what I'm talking about.
Anonymous No.282985017
>>282984606
Masamune Shirow did all types of... hentai and his stories involving yuri a lot of the times did have very non yuri developments
Anonymous No.282985050
>>282984900
NTA but one of the reasons yuri was pushed as the genre term, was specifically because it didn't have the sexploitation connotations you are thinking of. You are projecting too hard for someone so obviously ignorant.
Anonymous No.282985056
I need a new chapter of Haidou translated. It's been like a year since the last one.
Anonymous No.282985131 >>282985175 >>282985244
>>282984769
Before Fate is introduced, the beginning episodes of Nanoha are an astonishingly close facsimile of CCS. There's also the fact that all three of those series had potential male love interests for the girls before being phased out, signaling they were still in a transitional period.
Anonymous No.282985175
>>282985131
Even more damning for Nanoha considering the origins of the character
Anonymous No.282985215
>>282984047
I think OMRK and YRYR are the only ones i'm reading from the Yurihime lineaup this year. I've been interested in Mayu no Uta, but I'm letting it stack up.
Anonymous No.282985218 >>282985448 >>282985459
>>282984590
The Nanohas/KanMikos etc. all wouldn't exist without seinen keeping yuri alive for the dark decades.
Factually if not for those shows, yuri would still be entirely girls leaving their onee-sama to marry one day and girls flirting while hiding it from heir boyfriend. Because thats the kind of yuri marimite represented.
Anonymous No.282985244 >>282985448
>>282985131
I don't even know what the hell you are arguing with that. No one said Nanoha wasn't also mahou shoujo inspired, of course it is. Just like its gundam inspired as well.
Anonymous No.282985373
>>282984979
Its funny to say it like that, but Bible Black isn't even that old. It only came out in the 00s.
Anonymous No.282985448 >>282985530 >>282985555 >>282985610 >>282985681
>>282985218
>Because that's the kind of yuri marimite represented
True, but that's not really how the Japanese fans internalized it. Stuff like Maria Holic was already making fun of how everyone basically saw all-girl catholic schools as lesbian magnets a few afters after the Marimite anime (along with the trap fans who became obsessed with the idea of a guy attending one).

>>282985244
The argument was about what it's main influences are from. Stuff like Strike Witches and Nanoha didn't originally intend to pander to yurifags as hard as they ended up doing (hell, before Strike Witches was Sky Girls where the girls had boyfriends), meaning they were obviously closer to the heterosexual influences of the 90s era mahou shoujo shows rather than Battle Athletes.
Anonymous No.282985459
>>282985218
To be fair to Marimite, the whole point of it was to make shoujo that didn't revolve around guys.
But it is true that we have explicit romance and sex in yuri now despite Marimite and not thanks to it.
That was my point about how modern yuri is also based on the 80s yuri that normalised these things.
Anonymous No.282985530 >>282985590 >>282985610
>>282985448
>Maria Holic
Is this one still any decent in 2025?
Anonymous No.282985555 >>282985644
>>282985448
>meaning they were obviously closer to the heterosexual influences of the 90s era mahou shoujo
It doesn't really mean anything like that. It just means they developed further into one direction from another. And 80s/90s mahou shoujo was hardly exclusively heterosexual, especially when you already bring up ccs. Alongside Cutie Honey and Sailor Moon.
Anonymous No.282985590
>>282985530
It's not yuri so who cares if it is.
Anonymous No.282985610 >>282985896
>>282985448
>The argument was about what it's main influences are from
It wasn't. The argument was what influences made yuri what it is today. 'Main' is a weasel word you introduced now.
>>282985530
It wasn't even any decent back then, but you might get a laugh out of it.
Anonymous No.282985638
>>282983800
Kino
Anonymous No.282985644 >>282985733 >>282985779
>>282985555
Tomoyo is just a common trope character from shoujo at the time, it's not really meant to represent homosexuality and had CCS portrayed the future back then Tomoyo would definitely gotten a boyfriend or husband
Anonymous No.282985653
Anonymous No.282985672 >>282985739
20 years from now people will only know yuri as before Kitakawa and after Kitakawa
Anonymous No.282985681 >>282985896
>>282985448
>Stuff like Strike Witches and Nanoha didn't originally intend to pander to yurifags as hard as they ended up doing
You're making the obvious mistake of thinking about these things in modern terms that didn't exist yet.
They never made either of these to pander to "yurifags". They made stories that focused on the relatio ship between girls.
Anonymous No.282985683 >>282985740 >>282985775 >>282985843 >>282986068
I tried getting interested in this genre, but is just as boring as harem and the fan base is even worse. Citrus was enjoyable tho, but still pretty meh. I hope yuri never becomes mainstream and disappears along with yaoi and harem.
Anonymous No.282985733 >>282985868
>>282985644
>it's not really meant to represent homosexuality a
She represents loving another girl, it doesn't matter to yuri if Tomoyo is a lesbian or not. And CCS was all about love not caring about things like gender or age, which you knew if you had watched it instead of just throwing around random titles you read about.
Anonymous No.282985739
>>282985672
this but Kuwabara
Anonymous No.282985740
>>282985683
Too bad for you, Green yuri is on it's way haha.
Anonymous No.282985746 >>282985771 >>282985811 >>282985830 >>282986103
what about height gap as well with younger being bigger
Anonymous No.282985771
>>282985746
Anonymous No.282985775 >>282985821 >>282985952 >>282986096 >>282986096
>>282985683
>Citrus was enjoyable tho
Anonymous No.282985779 >>282986004
>>282985644
If bisexuals are common trope characters, how is it then exclusively heterosexual?
You are as confused as usual schizo-kun.
Anonymous No.282985811
>>282985746
Its the best.
Anonymous No.282985821 >>282986096
>>282985775
He's basically the parody of a tourist kek
Anonymous No.282985830
>>282985746
Nah, it's below /ss/
Anonymous No.282985843 >>282986096
>>282985683
>Citrus was enjoyable tho
I wished peope like you would get filtered out of the genre even harder
Anonymous No.282985850 >>282985886 >>282988143
>>282983894
I'd assume there are more adult woman interested in reading lesbian stories about OL romancing JS than there are little girls interested in reading lesbian stories about JS romancing OL
Anonymous No.282985868
>>282985733
Tomoyo's love is just a shoujo trope and anyone trying to make it more than it is or associating it with yuri is being disingenuous, it was always something meant to be considered as inferior to the main love interest which was the faggot kid who wanted to fuck an older guy, because this is who the trash audience of this series wanted to see.
Anonymous No.282985886 >>282985986
>>282985850
How do we fix this?
Anonymous No.282985896
>>282985610
>the argument was what influences made yuri what it is today.
When you look at yuri creators (the people who actually make yuri), they don't bring up the stuff from the 80s. They bring up Marimite and Class-S (https://teletype.in/@kati_lilian/SJA8KwjjN). I would argue that SonoHana probably had a bigger impact and it's no surprise that its first pairing is the classic onee-sama at a fancy all-girls catholic school, just like Marimite.

>>282985681
>They made stories that focused on the relatioship between girls.
True, but the yurifags/purityfags were the ones who insisted that it was extremely critical that for these relationships, the girls should never enter romantic relationships with guys, for obvious reasons.
Anonymous No.282985952 >>282985980
>>282985775
I like Citrus fine, but it’s not even in the top 20 yuris
Anonymous No.282985980
>>282985952
Citrus would be great if it actually was the toxic, incest rape fest tourists present it as.
Anonymous No.282985986 >>282986005 >>282986034
>>282985886
Make them read Marimite
Anonymous No.282986004
>>282985779
Tomoyo is not homosexual or bisexual, she just loved Sakura and her love was always meant to be just something she would eventually get over as it wasn't "proper", as did her Mom who felt the same way for Sakura's mom.
Anonymous No.282986005
>>282985986
Why can't we make them read something good?
Anonymous No.282986009 >>282986080
>>282968539
That child on the left is so adorable next to her big sis!
Anonymous No.282986030 >>282986245 >>282986484
Anonymous No.282986034 >>282986104
>>282985986
I'm not sure how making them sleep is going to help.
Anonymous No.282986058
>>282970011
That your niece Itou!
Anonymous No.282986068
>>282985683
What did you even watch/read?
Anonymous No.282986080
>>282986009
Actually that's her mom.
Anonymous No.282986096 >>282986116 >>282986143
>>282985775
>>282985775
>>282985843
>>282985821
>Anon liked a yuri story but instead of trying to change his/her mind and encourage him to read other works they decide to call him tourist
Can't be helped, I guess
Anonymous No.282986098
>>282973936
But you have sex with your own hands all day everydays, Anon!
Anonymous No.282986103
>>282985746
>I have come to make you my bride, onee-san
Peak
Anonymous No.282986104
>>282986034
It does
Anonymous No.282986111 >>282986152 >>282986193 >>282986300 >>282986968
>all the good age gap yuri is still ongoing and publishing
I'd love to be proven wrong.
Anonymous No.282986116
>>282986096
Nobody here is naive enough to think they can change your biased opinion.
Anonymous No.282986143
>>282986096
You sound like you already made up your mind, why people would encourage you?
Someone with an open mind would make that clear "Hey clear can you rec more titles like X?"
Anonymous No.282986148
Can current Kanon handle a sleepover?
Anonymous No.282986152 >>282986856
>>282986111
Anonymous No.282986176 >>282986206
Wait a minute... You can't see the moon on a rainy night!
Anonymous No.282986193 >>282986237 >>282986481
>>282986111
Which ones are still ongoing, besides Contract Sisters?
Anonymous No.282986206
>>282986176
not with that attitude you can't
Anonymous No.282986211 >>282986232 >>282986234 >>282986256 >>282986259 >>282986659 >>282988537 >>282988691
post the starting point of REAL yuri
Anonymous No.282986232
>>282986211
Right here
Anonymous No.282986234
>>282986211
I think there's an ancient lesbian poem or something.
Anonymous No.282986237 >>282986390
>>282986193
A Face You Should Show
Anonymous No.282986245
>>282986030
Cute Maika
Anonymous No.282986256 >>282986312 >>282986422 >>282990863
>>282986211
Adachi and Shimamura is the birth of Jesus Christ for the yuri genre, before then it was just Old Testament prophets.
Anonymous No.282986259
>>282986211
Anonymous No.282986300 >>282986713
>>282986111
Nope. Hatsukisu is completed.
Anonymous No.282986312
>>282986256
TRVKE
Anonymous No.282986390
>>282986237
For some reason that didn't even register to me as age gap.
Anonymous No.282986422
>>282986256
Kitakawa was the crucifixion.
Anonymous No.282986441
>>282982488
Iono was already a favorite of mine from SV so her and Dot’s relationship was a nice surprise for me.
Anonymous No.282986448 >>282986681
>when the tall one is a handsome dashing prince
Anonymous No.282986474
melori
Anonymous No.282986481 >>282986528 >>282986592
>>282986193
Does Watatabe count?
Anonymous No.282986484 >>282986546
>>282986030
Anonymous No.282986528
>>282986481
Maybe if the smelly fish hag starts acting her age
Anonymous No.282986546 >>282986605
>>282986484
What is her problem?
Anonymous No.282986592 >>282986938
>>282986481
if it does then Girls x Vampire does too
Anonymous No.282986605
>>282986546
She has MDS
Anonymous No.282986621
>>282978780
Rika I would say is a tomboy, she dresses up in male's fashion and doesn't act very demure
Anonymous No.282986659
>>282986211
Zenkowa
Anonymous No.282986681
>>282986448
>Things you will never see again
>But... there is a new Nanoha manga and anime!
>Yes exactly!
Anonymous No.282986685
>tfw Ennil and Taniya walked so Suletta and Miorine could run
There's been gay chicks in Gundam before.

>but-
Shut up, let me dream.
Anonymous No.282986688
>>282983595
What tweet
Anonymous No.282986713
>>282986300
And so is Married Teacher
Anonymous No.282986763 >>282986807 >>282986922
Who would win in a fistfight, Adachi or Tarumi?
Anonymous No.282986807 >>282986922 >>282987246
>>282986763
Adachi canonically thinks she wouldn't have trouble killing someone, she'd gut Tarumi with the boomerang.
Anonymous No.282986844 >>282986922
Tarumi is shit.
Anonymous No.282986852 >>282986894 >>282987641
Asta is so fucking cute. Cannot even begin to blame Kudelia for marrying her.

Look at this. Could you say no to this?
Anonymous No.282986856 >>282986933
>>282986152
Isn't the spinoff for this still going? Or am I a retard?
Anonymous No.282986878
https://dto.to/series/153872
This version of Snow White is wild
Anonymous No.282986894 >>282986984
>>282986852
>Retarded tranny thinks his ffm fantasy is yuri
Anonymous No.282986922
>>282986763
>>282986807
>>282986844
Pretty sure Adachi could lift Tarumi with a single hand, she is ridiculous strong.
Anonymous No.282986923 >>282986969 >>282987029 >>282987046 >>282987122
TL doko
Anonymous No.282986933
>>282986856
I think it is, but I haven't checked on it in a while.
Anonymous No.282986938
>>282986592
>400 years old
>never bothered to learn about vampire laws
>gets immediately dominated by her first kin
>keeps digging herself into a deeper and deeper hole creating a kin harem
Is Ruruna a based retard or just a regular retard?
Anonymous No.282986953
Miyagi would win
Anonymous No.282986968 >>282987451
>>282986111
>Hoshikawa Ginza District 4,
i don't remember that much of it, but ii think t was ok, and it's not porn (just pointing out it's not porn because of the author).
Anonymous No.282986969
>>282986923
Author just downed another bottle when you posted this.
Anonymous No.282986984 >>282987071
>>282986894
why is it always trannies with you? approximately how much of your brain is dedicated to permanently seething about them?
Anonymous No.282987029
>>282986923
tomorrow yesterday
Anonymous No.282987046
>>282986923
hang on i'm just asking the author for permission before uploading
Anonymous No.282987071 >>282987198 >>282987200 >>282987669
>>282986984
Because I wish this wasn't true, but unfortunately every single time someone is being retarded or there is retarded drama, it's always a tranny. It became so bad even when I hear of one more school shooting I already know it's another tranny.

And I am 100% sure anyone trying to pass the disgusting FFM ending as yuri is a tranny.
Anonymous No.282987122 >>282987702
>>282986923
Noighd did say after that he would push out the V1 extras first. So I think that means chapter TL might be delayed. Depending on how meaty the extras are, does anyone know?
Anonymous No.282987123
Jellyfish can swim in space.
Anonymous No.282987133
I won
Anonymous No.282987196 >>282987229
How many straight girls will be tricked into reading this?
Anonymous No.282987198
>>282987071
>"Everyone I don't like is trans!"
>"Everyone who likes something I don't like is trans!"
I guess the answer to anon's question is 100%. Also, not trans, I just think these two are cute together.
Anonymous No.282987200 >>282987604
>>282987071
so the guy spamming FFM shit with, say, Guel is a tranny too? good to know
Anonymous No.282987229
>>282987196
Do straight girls like isekai? I know it started with them, but I thought they gave up on the genre.
Anonymous No.282987246
>>282986807
Not to mention there was this exchange.
>"So if I did something evil, would you just stand by and watch?"
>Adachi briefly averted her gaze, and then spoke.
>"I would join you."
If Shimamura wants someone dead, Adachi will help.
Anonymous No.282987451 >>282989648 >>282989727
>>282986968
>Hoshikawa Ginza District 4

Pretty great but the ending goes full retard which is unfortunate. I don’t know if it got axed and the author was hastily wrapping it up or what but basically as soon as the neighbor girl blackmails the younger girl into letting her sexually assault her it goes completely off the rails and never really recovers. Good ride up until that point though
Anonymous No.282987503
The princess and her tiny chef wife.
Anonymous No.282987537 >>282987699 >>282987734 >>282987749
https://x.com/4049forever/status/1977388051526500749
https://x.com/4049forever/status/1977390987170271527
>If I don’t get paid properly for my work to be read, I’ll struggle to make a living as a manga artist, which is a problem.
Anonymous No.282987604 >>282987614
>>282987200
The Majima guy? He literally made an edit of "himself" (maijma in the case) in Renako's body
Anonymous No.282987614
>>282987604
You cannot be this retarded
Anonymous No.282987641
>>282986852
yuri
Anonymous No.282987669 >>282987724
>>282987071
>I wish this wasn't true
Least believable statement of all time.
Anonymous No.282987699
>>282987537
I feel like there was a time when people were more discrete.
Anonymous No.282987702
>>282987122
That’s before she said it’s impacting her motivation to draw. He hasn’t said anything after that post.
Anonymous No.282987703 >>282987823 >>282987941 >>282990078
When talking about japanese yuri history, you can't forget to thank Tangled and Frozen, they're vital to the Watanare revolution.
Anonymous No.282987724
>>282987669
I mean, I would rather trannies didn't exist at all, which is soon happening but not fast enough.
Anonymous No.282987734 >>282987796
>>282987537
>hating on the chinese
ok fine i'll buy your comic
Anonymous No.282987749 >>282987768
>>282987537
Didn't Yurihasa translations stop after it got licensed?
Anonymous No.282987768
>>282987749
It’s le chiniz this time
Anonymous No.282987796 >>282987989
>>282987734
>How dare you read a pirated version of my manga in a country where it can't be officially published!
Anonymous No.282987823 >>282987837 >>282990078
>>282987703
honestly I don't see the influence at all
Anonymous No.282987837 >>282987862
>>282987823
The japanese script of those movies is completely different
Anonymous No.282987862
>>282987837
How different? Kinda like 4kids but reverse?
Anonymous No.282987909
just install bitcoin miners on piracy manga sites and have the proceeds go toward buying copies of the manga, then put them in a library for future generations
Anonymous No.282987941 >>282988357
>>282987703
So you're saying he watched Frozen and thought
>Wow! I now have a great idea for a hot lesbian rapist!
Anonymous No.282987989
>>282987796
You being unwilling to learn Japanese and buy from Japan doesn't make it ok to pirate.
Anonymous No.282988110
>>282984955
>What women want
Anonymous No.282988143
>>282985850
There's Oshiegoto. That's oficially shoujo. The FeMC isn't an OL but a teacher but I think it still counts.
Anonymous No.282988297 >>282988575
Yuri is GAY! GAY!!!
Anonymous No.282988357
>>282987941
Who didn’t?
Anonymous No.282988433 >>282988524
I just learned that there is a thing called homonationalism. Yurinationalism when?
Anonymous No.282988524
>>282988433
Anonymous No.282988537
>>282986211
If you think about it really hard every yuri is an alternate universe of Kannazuki no Miko.
Anonymous No.282988575
>>282988297
Well... yeah. That's kinda the point, innit.
Anonymous No.282988691
>>282986211
Anonymous No.282988809
Anonymous No.282988852 >>282988925 >>282989002 >>282989054 >>282989162 >>282989224 >>282989247 >>282989336 >>282989380
Do you support Japan allowing gay marriage?
Reminder that it's not just for women.
Anonymous No.282988875
>>282970992
This site has no actual voters and fakes all its results.
Anonymous No.282988925 >>282989000 >>282989297 >>282989436
>>282988852
people should be allowed to marry whoever they want
Anonymous No.282989000
>>282988925
Even if they're already married/a child?
Togawa Rin approves.
Anonymous No.282989002 >>282989021
>>282988852
I don't really care either way.
Anonymous No.282989021 >>282989035
>>282989002
Why are you even here?
Anonymous No.282989035
>>282989021
Because I like the fictional genre of yuri.
Anonymous No.282989054 >>282989079
>>282988852
No, fuck real dykes
Anonymous No.282989058 >>282989119 >>282989253
English print doko?
Anonymous No.282989079 >>282989156
>>282989054
kys
Anonymous No.282989119
>>282989058
Eri exists so no
Anonymous No.282989156
>>282989079
You first
Anonymous No.282989162
>>282988852
of course
no gay marriage isn't going to boost their birthrates
Anonymous No.282989224
>>282988852
It would be interesting to see what kind of yuri stories this would inspire.
Anonymous No.282989247 >>282989271 >>282989295 >>282989415
>>282988852
I'm OK with fags and dykes living together but I don't approve marriage because they would be allowed to adopt children
Anonymous No.282989253
>>282989058
Eri exists so very soon
Anonymous No.282989271
>>282989247
there must not be a lot of japanese babies to adopt
Anonymous No.282989295
>>282989247
Change you opinion now or else
Anonymous No.282989297
>>282988925
this, incest should be legal too specially the twincest variety
Anonymous No.282989314 >>282989485
>>282970059
R07 is just a pushover and coward.

>Decides to heavily a reference a yuri relationship from a previous work of his in Gou/Sotsu but can't commit to it in a big mainstream anime.

>Can push it as explicitly romantic though in a short novel booklet he explicitly sold as a "doujinshi" (nevermind that Higurashi VN on PC for years was sold as a doujinshi, he really wanted to highlight that this in spite of being a script straight from him this is "just" a doujinshi and not official).

>At the same time was publishing a manga where a non-looper adult Satoko is just a married woman because SE's editors who worked with him on the OG Higurashi manga had been asking for a manga with the premise where the club had married and grew up and their children were now the protagonists for years (also, he ended up with them all just marrying randoms, so even fans of m/f pairings weren't happy with this). Knew it wasn't a good idea though and was saying from the first time he talked about it and even in the author's notes at the end of the volume that it's just a random fragment, not a real definitive future... but in spite of that still went through with their idea.
Anonymous No.282989336 >>282989364 >>282989441
>>282988852
yes because it would reflect on yuri and then there would be an actual reason to continue the story beyond the confession
Anonymous No.282989345
I only accept it if IVG is developed and affordable enough for dykes to have kids together.
Anonymous No.282989364
>>282989336
Otakus live in their own small bubble apart from mainstream society and culturally anime is stuck on late Showa/early Heisei
Anonymous No.282989370
i read fiction with slavery so i guess i support the legalization of that
Anonymous No.282989380
>>282988852
I genuinely don’t give a shit who gets married to who
Anonymous No.282989415
>>282989247
Anon... gays and lesbians can adopt children, including in japan, they just won't recognize both parents as the fathers or mothers. Not even going to comment how not wanting children to be adopted is one of the most petty things I have ever read.
Anonymous No.282989424 >>282990123
Anonymous No.282989436 >>282989499 >>282989692
>>282988925
Itou Hachi approves of this message
Anonymous No.282989441
>>282989336
Romances usually don't go beyond the confession because people dislike relationship problems and also because most authors don't write them well. Adachi and Shimamura is 7 light novels volumes after the confession.
Anonymous No.282989485
>>282989314
The booklet had zero explicit romantic. Also stop being retarded, you are talking about a guy who constantly writes Bern and Lambda flirting with guys, he gives zero shits about yuri, it's just a setup for him.
Anonymous No.282989499
>>282989436
In most of her fantasy works ff marriage is the norm, maybe one day she and her gf can get married irl
Anonymous No.282989648
>>282987451
But thats the best part
Anonymous No.282989664 >>282989816
Anonymous No.282989692
>>282989436
need yuri oppai
Anonymous No.282989727 >>282989872
>>282987451
First Kurogane Ken story?
Anonymous No.282989782 >>282989979
Magical Revolution of the Reincarnated Princess and the Genius Young Lady chapter 48
https://mangadex.org/chapter/83a1e65e-cd6e-49ec-b39e-9de1a098826c
Anonymous No.282989816
>>282989664
otp
Anonymous No.282989872 >>282989967
>>282989727
I guess. Do they always shit the bed at the end?
Anonymous No.282989967
>>282989872
It was spetacularly turns into pure nonsense at some point
Anonymous No.282989979 >>282990010
>>282989782
Anonymous No.282990010 >>282990021 >>282990034
>>282989979
Anonymous No.282990021
>>282990010
the face of a non-consensual happiness giver
Anonymous No.282990034 >>282990058
>>282990010
Anonymous No.282990058 >>282990087
>>282990034
Anonymous No.282990078
>>282987703
>>282987823
Trying to find a connection, Frozen and Tangled romantic relationships are kind of dorky, with couples competing against each other and even fighting instead of just being all lovey dovey, without going menhera but in a friendly way. Like in Watanare and Arioto, i guess,
Anonymous No.282990087 >>282990113
>>282990058
Anonymous No.282990113 >>282990139
>>282990087
Anonymous No.282990123
>>282989424
Amazaki Suika is one of the funnier yuri mangaka.
Anonymous No.282990139 >>282990157
>>282990113
Anonymous No.282990157 >>282990180
>>282990139
Anonymous No.282990180 >>282990207
>>282990157
Anonymous No.282990189 >>282990217 >>282990225 >>282990259 >>282990512
>>282968511 (OP)
these threads are overrun by agp trannies from /u/ anyway, given by how much these niggerbastards jack off to toxic 'yuri' being all popular. just like with /u/ a decade ago, these threads started with some proper yuridanshi and maybe even a himejoshi talking about yuri, but now its been overrun yet again by western trannies. kill yourself.
Anonymous No.282990207 >>282990236
>>282990180
Anonymous No.282990217
>>282990189
Ok ACK
Anonymous No.282990225
>>282990189
you first
Anonymous No.282990236 >>282990260
>>282990207
Anonymous No.282990259 >>282990306
>>282990189
Toxic yuri is more popular among actual women in Japan (not tranny)
Anonymous No.282990260 >>282990286
>>282990236
Anonymous No.282990286 >>282990308
>>282990260
Anonymous No.282990306 >>282990492
>>282990259
now you know why western trannies jack off to toxic 'yuri'. use your brain, you bastard faggot with a mutilated dick.
Anonymous No.282990308 >>282990334 >>282990519
>>282990286
Anonymous No.282990334 >>282990355
>>282990308
Anonymous No.282990355 >>282990380
>>282990334
Anonymous No.282990380 >>282990402
>>282990355
Anonymous No.282990402 >>282990430 >>282990617
>>282990380
Anonymous No.282990430 >>282990459
>>282990402
Anonymous No.282990459 >>282990489
>>282990430
Anonymous No.282990485
>>282968511 (OP)
But not all of us can wake up next to our lovely older one after a good night of physical activity.
Anonymous No.282990489 >>282990582
>>282990459
Anonymous No.282990492
>>282990306
Not a tranny.
You're a retarded tourist.
Anonymous No.282990512
>>282990189
There are lots of wholesome series that are popular in these threads too?
Anonymous No.282990519
>>282990308
Why is Anus acting like this anyway
Anonymous No.282990560 >>282990636
Why does this retard keep spamming yuri threads with chapter dumps?
Anonymous No.282990582
>>282990489
Is the drama finally over?
Anonymous No.282990617
>>282990402
what a crybaby
Anonymous No.282990623
God forbid people actually post yuri manga in a yuri thread
Anonymous No.282990635
Mommy loves this thread, I just hope she doesn't lose her head.
Anonymous No.282990636
>>282990560
shut up bozo
Anonymous No.282990677
Anonymous No.282990687 >>282990709 >>282990738
Anonymous No.282990709
>>282990687
Renako is pathetic but is she pathetic enough to lick another girl's foot?
Anonymous No.282990738 >>282990749 >>282990754
>>282990687
>those boobs
this is not Satsuki
Anonymous No.282990749
>>282990738
anime satuki has inflated boobs, deal with it.
Anonymous No.282990754
>>282990738
It's Satsuki's mom obviouosly
Anonymous No.282990756
Anonymous No.282990789
piracy bad
Anonymous No.282990863
>>282986256
And just like the New Testament, it marks the most boring part until the Apocalypse.
Anonymous No.282990894
is this yuri?
Anonymous No.282990895
Hanatori is not a pedophile, she just wants to insert herself into Satsuki to fulfill her dream of having sex with her Madame Mai.
Anonymous No.282991411
I won
Anonymous No.282991814 >>282991873
Sena lost
Anonymous No.282991822
>>282991773
Anonymous No.282991873
>>282991814
Amori...
Anonymous No.282992372
>>282975167
Based hag enjoyer