Thread 282981823

"you are not better than others even though you're better than others"????
"there are always bigger fish"????

>>282981823 (OP)
don't bother thinking about it the moral falls apart the second yo use critical thinking

>>282981823 (OP)
japanese sissies are so buckbroken they think being a salaryman is the be all end all

That's a really dumb question

>>282981823 (OP)
Where's the can?

Don't be a dick with your superpower. That's literally it.

>>282982334
It's a little more than that
More like "Don't let yourself be consumed by the one thing you think you're good at, don't let that define how you see yourself and others. And don't be a dick about it."

>>282982445
Sounds like he was just seething that others are better artists.

I would have wiped out all bad people if I was as powerful as he is.

>>282982763
Possibly, but I doubt it

>>282982958
Death Note is about this exact idea

>>282982958
Fuck off Light

>>282981823 (OP)
There's a few things that I personally got from it. It's a classic Bildungsroman, a young person discovering who they are.

Don't be a self absorbed narcissist who revels in their own talent and alienates others. There may also be others out there who are more talented than you. Be humble. (Hanazawa)

Mob is a mob to almost everyone else despite being an esper. I think this is a double meaning in that there is more to people than you think. Everyone is the main character of their own life and has their own unique insights, experiences, and turmoils that they're dealing with. Also, each person has unique traits and skills that make them "them", you are not truly a "mob."

Above probably ties into something along the lines of being willing to bare your soul to others to reveal your true self and make actual connections. Only by acknowledging yourself will you be able to improve, and be happy.

I'm not sure how to articulate this one really. Mob wants to realize himself as a person by becoming someone he and others can respect by self actualization. He hates his esper powers as it's something that's just given to him, he wants to earn something through his own work.
The fact that he could level mountains, but works himself to near death in the bodybuilding club shows there is value in hard work and earning things yourself. It builds character, and discipline, etc.

Mob's brother is also envious of his esper abilities and is willing to do anything to have his own as well. Mob just sees it as a nuisance. Probably showing how you can never understand another person's world view truly, and "the grass is always greener".

All young men have an urge and call to violence.
Growing into proper adulthood is not swearing off violence but learning when to use it.

>>282983495
I don't think that was the central theme but you're right that it is part of the story

You are not special.
Not in the sense that you have nothing to offer the world but in that the issues and feelings you're grappling with are ones that EVERYONE ELSE DOES. You don't need to run from yourself or run from others because connecting with and accepting both of those is how you can resolve the issues.

>>282981823 (OP)
Wow anon, your reflections on this anime are so deep and thougtful. You're so cool and smart, can I touch your weiner?

>>282981823 (OP)
Guy with all the money in the world telling you money isn't that important.

>>282981823 (OP)
The message is to not be a piece of shit

Japanese moral law. Just like how Western media is enslaved to diversity and sexual identity, Japanese media is enslaved to Japanese social morality. It loosens up if it’s in a clearly fantastic setting, but if it’s set in something that looks like Japanese society it goes into full lockdown mode.
Do not stand out.
You are not special.
Harmony above all else.
You are a cog, and that’s great.
Rebellion is bad.
Apologies MUST be accepted.
So if you have powers that other people don’t, you must never use them EXCEPT where it strengthens the moral cohesion of society. Most of all, the Japanese moral code must be promoted and glazed at all times. People who reject Japanese social morality are inherently evil.

>>282984266
Americans lose their upon seeing a cohesive society

>>282981823 (OP)
dont even bother approaching stacy unless you are earning 6 figures
>>282984266
that's not like most of my japanese animes tho...

>>282981823 (OP)
Personally I believe the message is that being special is not going to give you an advantage in life if you are unable to do something productive with it, MOB's powers won't make the girl who does not think he is attractive or even knows him very well beyond him being nice to her when they were kids fall in love with him, same with all the power obsessed retards he fights, all of them just wanted shorcuts in life using their powers to bully others, they didn't really have any education or means to actually rebuild society like they claimed they did, had they gotten their way they would have set japan to a shithole like north korea.

>>282981823 (OP)
you can't help what your heart yearns for, but even if you fail pursuing it will feel better than ignoring it to stick with what you're best at

>>282981823 (OP)
Mob joined a self-improvement club in order to impress a girl, only to get cucked.
The moral of the story if you are manlet, no amount of self-improvement will get you laid.

>>282986502
You wanted the girl to just accept his confession even though he is just a few months in the club and she barely ever talked to him after childhood?

>>282986574
surely it must be more than few months?

>>282986574
>few months
That's more than enough time. Do you think you have to court a girl for years before confessing? And they are just little kids, at that age people datr for the dumbest of reasons or even as a joke

>>282983649
It is kind of the core of Mob's personal struggle though. He's sealed off part of himself because he's afraid of recklessly hurting others, but the constant appearance of assholes who feel entitled to wreck things simply because they can forces him to reckon with his own decision to go too far in the other direction.

>>282986651
Maybe? Though clearly it's not enough to make a difference.
>>282986743
Anon she literally has a line of a hundred men wanting to date her, there is no reason to choose Mob over any of them, who also barely ever talked to her. At least when the series end Mob has a better chance since he is actually holding conversations with her.

>>282981823 (OP)
the powers that determine who is at the top of real life society are so good and just, that even in a fantasy world where some people have incredible power divorced from real hierarchy, it should not, and would not be possible to change the natural order of things.

Essential mandate of heaven propaganda

>>282981823 (OP)
That talented people should become factory workers.

Be careful, there's a mod that hands out 3 day bans if you criticize this show. Better hope you don't randomly step on his toes!

"sakuga" is a mistake.

My favorite part of Mob's arguments is how they're all enforced through brute force.
>You aren't better than anyone because you have powers!
>I'll prove this to you by using my even greater than yours powers to force you into submission
>And you better not do it again or else I'll beat the fuck out of you once more
Genuinely schizophrenic series.

>>282987380
i laughed
it truly is a patronizing story

>>282987380
>>282988276
They all are using their powers for violence, Mob is just showing the final result of what they are doing, someone more powerful is going to show up and force them the same way they are forcing others

>>282987019
>Anon she literally has a line of a hundred men wanting to date her, there is no reason to choose Mob over any of them
Honestly one of the bests parts of the series. I hate it when series deafault to the "just be nice bro" shit and the protagonist gets awared the stacey.

>>282988408
*awareded

>>282986502
The girl was a wasted story point in the end.
As a kid she was shown to be shallow, as a teenager she just didn't want a rando to confess his love to her.
The story would be more interesting if she kept being shallow and mob ended up with one of the other girls.

>>282986502
It's a good lesson. Working your ass off to impress a girl is literally the dumbest thing you could possibly do.

>>282981823 (OP)
Don't hype yourself out the ass just because you're good at something.
Completely restrain yourself to mediocrity if you are super good at something.
I really don't get why that's the final answer the author came to.

Ironically enough if Mob used his power to gain political power (like the villains) he would have achieved his goal of getting the girl. Girls love power.

>>282989001
If you read the sequel it's not like mob stopped using his powers or anything, he's just not defining himself by them. He's still doing cool shit.

>>282981823 (OP)
Don't stand out
Don't change things even if you can change then for the better
Be a basic emotion and hope devoid grass eating slave bitch.
Glory?
Many bitches and dozens of children?
Nah. Be a stuttering bitch who lusts for mid abusive women

>>282987019
>there is no reason to choose Mob over any of them
That is exactly my point. He has nothing to offer over the others so he doesn't get chosen. I was just disputing the belief that you need to spend months and months with a girl to even get a chance with them.

if it was Chad or someone she found attractive to begin with then most of actual courting would happen during the relationship not before.

>>282981823 (OP)
who cares
being a good show is all that mattered

>>282981823 (OP)
You've been seething about this anime for 10 years.

>>282989746
Well I said he was a few months in the club trying to work on his appearance, he doesn't really start talking to her until the ending. The fact is he isn't a chad, so his only chance is by courting her over several months, which may not even pay off, but it's his choice.

If everyone is a not special then yu can be what you want to be

>>282985557
>they didn't really have any education or means to actually rebuild society like they claimed they did
neither do the politicians of the real world yet they're still in charge

>>282981823 (OP)
ONE is a pseud

>>282988768
>shallow
Isn't it more that she's headstrong and capricious but socially very cautious/repressed? She was massively underdeveloped, but she was clearly intended to be a parallel to Mob. He idealized her and what she symbolized for him like everyone else idealized him and the confession arc was in part him realizing that.

>>282986502
Anon, Mob's problem with the girl he liked was that he never fucking talked with her, she only remember him from their childhood, after the story is over is shown that he started calling her daily.

>>282988394
so why doesn't someone more powerful than him show up?

This guy makes this thread every few weeks. When is he going to get tired of it.

>>282991116
Because then you got a Xianxia story that goes on for ten thousand chapters of pure powercreep, and nobody but the chinese has time for that.

Since you're a retarded zoomer I'll put it in retarded zoomer terms that even you'll understand " If you're nothing without the suit, you shouldn't have it".

>>282981823 (OP)
how many times are you going to pretend to care about this?

>>282991116
Because the message is that violence invites more violence, outside of the time Mob lost control, no one has reason to attack him.

>>282981823 (OP)
YOU WIRR GO TO SCHOOL
YOU WIRR BECOME SARARY MAN
YOU WIRR TAKE THE TRAIN AT RUSH HOUR EVELY MORNING
YOU WIRR WORK UNTIL YOUR BOSS LEAVES
YOU WIRR GET DRUNK WITH COWORKERS EVERY DAY
YOU WIRR SLEEP IN THE POD AWAY FROM YOUR FAMIRY

>>282992534
Oh wow anon you are doing much better never going past step 2 and feeding from your mama's and papa's money, truly sticking to the man

>>282981823 (OP)
You're not better than someone because you're good at someone or successful. Being smart doesn't make you better than someone who's dumb. Being fast doesn't make you better than someone who's slow. Being strong doesn't make you better than someone who's weak. At the end of the day all that matters is if you can find your own happiness.
Mob is strong but his strength doesn't bring him joy. Being strong is just something he is, not WHO he is. So much of his growth is becoming a fully fledged person who is comfortable and happy with himself, not just someone who lords how special he is over people. Life's not a win/lose game. You just have to accept yourself.

If psychic powers don't make you special, then why did ONE make the protagonist the most powerful psychic in the world, instead of someone without psychic powers?

Could it be that because if he didn't have those powers, then he wouldn't be special enough to be worth telling a story about? Completely defeating the stories own supposed message? Or maybe ONE just doesn't actually have the philosophical insight or writing skill to make his points with anything besides "The character that represents my viewpoints beats up the characters that represent different viewpoints and that proves that me and my views are right instead of theirs", making the whole story the equivalent of an imaginary shower argument in your own head.

>>282992643
I don't really think it's about accepting yourself, so much as it's about improving yourself. I mean, they hit you over the head with that.

>>282991065
all we saw of them as kids is that he like her and she liked his powers until she saw little chad kick a ball hard and then she forgot him.
The ending could at least have showed him realize his hang up with her was shallow.
And again, he should've gotten closer to the one of the other girls, instead we got a hint that he was starting over with the shallow one.

>>282981823 (OP)
>point gun at head
>BE GOOD
Damn, this show is deep.

>>282987380
mob is a metaphor fo state violence

I watched this in its entirety and i didnt get it. The main characters are shigeo and reigen and every other characters are filler and irrelevant. The only thing that was good about it was the reigen episode, and so i can kind of forgive season 1 for existing as a setup but even then. Im honestly perplexed by the fact that shigeo is the mc. It would have made much more sense if reigen was the main character. All the shonenshit that happens to shigeo is utterly irrelevant and intentionally treated as a joke because its le deconstruction which would have been perfectly fine if shigeo wasnt the main character. So youre stuck with a character who is completely uninterested by what is happening the majority of the time which grows old very fast. Compare that to Reigen, he is a very flawed and interesting character in a very precarious situation, there are stakes at end, it makes me invested and give a shit about this show. Exactly one episode is dedicated to him and the rest of the show is shonenslop parody that even the main characters dont give a shit about, its very strange honestly

>>282981823 (OP)
How did it do it? How did one show make all of inceldome seethe and copulate so hard?

>>282981823 (OP)
You're not defined by your talents or lack thereof.

>>282994733
The funniest thing is when someone complains here the most common advice is "just lift, bro", and that's what Mob does. His psychic powers don't impress the girl he likes, so he decides to work on his body instead. And after she rejects him (cause she just doesn't feel that way about him), he still goes to the gym club and keeps working out, cause he found he enjoyed it that much.

His psychic powers didn't define him. It's an aspect of him, but not the only one.

>>282988768
>>282991065
It's not that Tsubomi is shallow it's that she's a psychotic giga-Stacy.
>doesn't give even a little shit about fantastical psychic powers the second she gets bored of Mobs 1 trick
>stands there and personally rejects a conga line of dudes enamored with her, no texts no ghosting she just firmly breaks 50+ hearts face to face
>ignores earthquakes and evacuation warnings because she said she would be in a certain place at a certain time to meet Mob
During the divine tree arc a fucking memetic brainwashing curse gets passed around by consuming broccoli products. It gets the entire city before Tsubomi finally folds by psychic osmosis before any of her stranger, acquaintance, or closest friends and family can convince her to eat a vegetable she doesn't want to eat. Her willpower and stubbornness are insane.

??? falls in love with her because she is just as unhinged as he is.

>>282981823 (OP)
don't underestimate broccoli

>>282984574
Stacy rejected literally everyone including mob. And even then mob gets a maybe and they're still talking by the epilogue

>>282982958
Define bad people

>>282981823 (OP)
psychics are busted

>>282983282
>He hates his esper powers as it's something that's just given to him
Was this ever the case?

He lost confidence in the appeal of his esper powers because his crush wasn’t impressed and decided to pursue bodybuilding because he noticed that she liked athletes. Plus the incident with his younger brother that made him wary of carelessly using his powers. I think the other things you mentioned were more just lessons he learned as he “grew up”, both from his experiences with others and from what Reigen taught him (intentionally or otherwise).

>>282996938
People who are fine with making others suffer.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH I CANT ENJOY THIS SHOW WITHOUT A MORAL LESSON PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT THIS ANIME MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEANS

>>282981823 (OP)
this garbage normieslop no one remembers?
if there was ever a message everyone forgot so it must not have been a good one.

>>282991116
I mean, that's what Touichirou Suzuki is, that's why he can't just brute force the right and ends pretty much in an tie.

>>282981823 (OP)
>domestic terrorism and god complexes are bad
>[gap]
>your head

>>282992940
His powers are an important part of him, but he learns other skills for it to not define him, so even if he ever loses his powers he's fine. Psychic abilities don't make you popular.

>>282981823 (OP)
Why didn't one punch man get the mob treatment?

>>282981823 (OP)
>Just run bro.
Not that deep.

>>282982763
That's not even the case anymore, it's just his signature at this point.

>>282996143
It is good to remember how mildly insane she is. That might be some metaphor for the ultimate unattainable connection or something.

you're not special because you're SPECIAL, you're special because YOU'RE special
it's not that complex

>>282981823 (OP)
Lifting with your bros is more fulfilling than talking to vapid whores or having delusions of grandeur because you can inflict violence

>>282996143
This is a part of the central absurdity of how ONE compromises his own main premise. The central premise is: Mob isn’t special, and this is symbolizes by his nickname which is the title of the comic. But this is instantly and openly subverted by making this central premise a completely shallow and fake one because Mob is WILDLY special in EVERY way EXCEPT physically. His love interest is ABSURDLY special, the only girl in Mob’s world which is remotely worthy of him.

Now if this was on purpose I’d applaud ONE’s talent as a writer. Pretending to obey Japanese social law while in reality mocking it. But…..I don’t think so. The social lessons seem WAY too earnest for it just to be a misdirection. It really does seem Ike ONE is simply delivering the good social messaging Japanese society expects out of him, and all the cool, crazy stuff that happens is safely inside the context of promoting moral law.

>>282996143
It's fine that she's a turbo giga stacy, because she rejects him at the end and mob ends the series in the friend zone

Are you retards still trying to argue with this bait thread spammer who just keeps making the same shit every few days? You will not convince anyone, it's a waste of time

>>282981823 (OP)
Being special doesn't give you the right to treat others poorly.

>>282981823 (OP)
>what was the message the show was trying to convey?
"You shouldn't use superpowers for rape"

>>282997317
You didn't answer the question. If psychic powers aren't what define him then why couldn't ONE write a manga about someone who doesn't have them at all?

>>282981823 (OP)
Season 1 was peak when they leaned into it being a gag show and all the "don't use your powers on people because everyone's special" talk was played off as Reigan talking out his ass. Season 2 is a slice of life for 2/3rds of the season and starts pretending it's a more serious show with all the lecturing the audience about how powers dont make you special. It's like they missed the point entirely. Great final fight though. Only partway through S3 and it's already a massive improvement over 2

>>283001586
Facts are bait?

>>282981823 (OP)
''If you scam gullible niggerfaggots but look funny while doing so you can avoid all consequences forever'' and ''As a matter of fact you should scam people always so your own victims help you save face to pull even more schemes'' are two real nice messages this show tends to teach us and no one ever addresses them.

>>282986502
/thread

>>283000314
there are way better girls for Mob than Tsubomi, ???% just has shit taste on account of being the caveman id part of Mob's brain

>>283005370
Is it really a scam if they're satisfied?

>>282981823 (OP)
>learn some real life skills and socialize instead of being a delusional manchild

>>282981823 (OP)
Keep your head down and earn your wages

>>282981823 (OP)
Irresponsible reliance on power breeds terrible character flaws.

>>283008496
I'm pretty sure that Reigen is all about quitting your shitty job to find something you actually enjoy doing.

>>283000314
Tsubomi isn’t that special, she’s just pretty and headstrong. She’s the school darling, but the school darling isn’t important.

>>282992988
The entire finale of the show is Mob learning to accept the parts of himself that he'd been repressing. It's both for sure, but accepting yourself is definitely part of it.

>>282997038
>Was this ever the case?
It's been 2 years since I watched this show, so you might be right. I may be misremembering that aspect.

>I think the other things you mentioned were more just lessons he learned as he “grew up”, both from his experiences with others and from what Reigen taught him (intentionally or otherwise).

Right, that's what the intent is supposed to be in a Bildungsroman. The character developing as a person, and the reader is there alongside them. You glean some wisdom and insight from their growth.

I don't think it particularly matters if Mob learned through his own actions and self reflection, or through Reigen's guidance, the outcome is still the same of him growing.

>>282981823 (OP)
being better than others doesn't excuse cruelty.
That simple.

>>282987292
What did you actually say?

>>283007567
yes

>>282981823 (OP)
The lesson is that regardless of what you can do, what you are like or who you are, if you don't look good no woman will ever touch you.

>>282993511
>*wave guns around shooting people like an aggressive retard*
>*a gun is aimed at you for being an aggressive retard*
>OH WOW I GUESS PERSONAL AGENCY AND AMBITION IS DEAD IF I CAN’T EVEN SHOOT AND KILL PEOPLE

>>282981823 (OP)
Most people parrot the "You are not special" line but I think its more like you may be special in some way but that doesn't always make you interesting. Also who cares if you are special if you can't hold a conversation or do basic math, try to be well rounded or at least recognize your flaws.

>>282981823 (OP)
it doesn't matter if you're good at your job if you don't have people skills. some of the laziest people at work can still be very liked while the hardest worker can be looked down upon even though they didn't do anything wrong just because they never attempt to make small talk.

Be humble and caring. No matter how much talent or wealth you have, it doesn't mean much unless you can connect to people on a meaningful level.

>>282981823 (OP)
Just be yourself, except when you are special, then fuck you.

>>282981823 (OP)
>dude you aren't special
When no one is special everyone is.

You good at talking to girls? good job that makes you special, Can you fix a car? Neat, special, Move shit with your mind? Cool, special. All have there place

>>283008723
Reigen is a scammer no different from a phone jeet.