Thread 282998777

>Draw cute couple!
>Make them swingers!
What manga!

First counter couple.

Second counter couple.

>>282998777 (OP)
Ahahahah ntr chads won again

>>282998777 (OP)
>>282998794
>>282998805
>cute "couple"
Only the girls are cute, >>282998777 (OP) looks like a sad wimp, >>282998794 is a fat ogre and >>282998805 has a weird face
do attarctive women really get hitched with unattractive men just because those men let them have sex with other unattractive men?

Also author also introduced another girl, but this time without boyfriend. So what is plan now? Just plain simple cheating?

Sounds gross

>>282999237
Why?

Sounds hot

>>282999509
Cuck

>>282999535
Yes

>>282999509
And fun too.

>>282998777 (OP)
so... you're gonna dump a chapter or what?

>>282999018
I'm assuming you've never met people who do this type of shit irl but more or less yes. Same for poly relationships/ open relationships. Anyone who doesn't practice monogamy is disgusting anyway.

>>283000081
I mean, I would expect both of them to unattractive, it just seems odd that the dudes swing with hot women and the women swing with these weirdoes.

>>283000408
They are mid menheras. Just mangaka can't draw them ugly

>>282998777 (OP)
>the boys are unique
>the girls are one girl in different wigs
Ah bishoujo design, never change

>>282999978
First chapter then. Tankoubon version.

>>283000408
Attractive men don't want whores for a wife. The woman date down because they have to. No one on their level would take them when they could have a monogamous wife instead.

Its not swinging, retards. Swingers don't regret, i see mc regrets from the beginning while his girl doesn't. She enjoys it. Mc is a cuck, he get from his girlfriend being fucked not from fucking other woman. Cripto ntr manga

>>282998777 (OP)
Must..... Do BETTER

>>283001542
>>283001552
>>283001580
Ahahaha this is cuck shit. Swingers have too much sex they get bored with eachother, this is clearly womans fault. She doesn't want this cuck and offers open relationship

>>283001583
>MUST...... EXPLAIN..... THIS.... AS NTR!
We know anon. We know what your heart wants.

Is this by the same artist/author that did karami zakari or whatever it was called?

>>283001732
Looks like kanokari author

Hot manga

>>283001742
Yes, it's same artist as Karami Zakari, but this time it's his solo work without Karami Zakari's author's involvement.

Author said he plans a swing with two guys on the other side

>>283001415
>>283001436
>>283001481
wait a minute, this is sex! (almost)

>>283001899
They will DP MC's wife?

>>282998777 (OP)
I don't read stuff for faggots. Why are you?

>>283002002
Of course

>>283002084
Your girlfriends tells you this. What would you answer?

>>283002084
Your girlfriend tells you this. What would you answer?

>>283002131
I wouldn't be dating a whore.

>>283002162
>>283002180
Ahahaha this is ntr. Swingers would happily discuss the possibilities.

>>283002209
You are somehow well informed anon.

>>283002321
Ahahahahhaa
Lol

>>283002321
Chapter 1 end.

>>283002321
>>283002355
this seems like a nightmare
thanks for the dump op

>>283002502
I wonder, if I should continue until chapter 3, which conclude first swing.

>>283002693
Please do, swinging is my fetish and the main girl looks cute.

>>283002764
Ok then. Continuing with chapter 2. Tankoubon version.

>>283002321
>she is even wearing her ring
he really is the better man...
>>283002002
>>283001899
based, that's what he deserves for cucking her

So basically all men in this manga are pushovers and cucks who do that their cheating wifes want.
Fat dude doesn't look like he actually wants to share his wife

>>283003361
>Fat dude doesn't look like he actually wants to share his wife
Do he? He seems pretty fine to me.

>>283003406
He is asking mc to fuck his wife, he is not saying how he wants to fuck other women. He is pathetically silent and do it just before his wife asks

>>283003345
hiro-dono! dont look!
>>283003361
more like tired of their gfs/wifes, only the mc seems to be a better man so far
it's also really funny how the mc was hesitant to fuck the hag while his gf spread her legs for the Ojisan the very first night

>>283003503
YAMERO

>>283003610
oh my

>>283003631
>>283003696
APOLOGIZE

>>283003722
for what? only god knows how many dicks those lips have sucked (in the last 24hrs)

>>283003804
Chapter 2 end.

>>283003804
>socks stay on
now we're talking

>>283003842
She is a pro whore

>>283003831
Continuing with chapter 3. Tankoubon version.

>>283003852
i hope you're not implying that only whores keep their socks on during sex

>>283003933
Experienced women don't give a shit about socks. They just want to have sex.

>>282998777 (OP)
Boy looks kinda cute.
I'll read it if there's bi stuff.

>>283003935
That's hardly spoiler material

>>283003974
this is as "bi" as it got >>283002951 (so no lesbos for you)

>>283004026
w-what's that noise...

>>283004014
>lesbos
No, the guy should do gayshit.

>>283004014
Considering that this girl >>282999179 has no boyfriend, I won't be suprised, if it ended with threesome. Unless author decide go full cheating route.

>>283004103
hotwife noises

>>283004194
watch out MC-kun she is going to groom you!

>>283004194
she's a predator

>>283004194
>>283004207
I know copying plots is pretty pervasive in hentai/manga, but this will be like the 10th time I've seen this exact plot of "swinging wife distracts reluctant husband with tepid sex while MC's wife gets absolutely power fucked by big swinging husband and slowly turns her into a whore"

Is this just NTR disguised as swinging all the way down?

>>282998777 (OP)
I just like seeing cunts get fucked by ugly bastards or niggers

>>282998777 (OP)
I only like it when it's an honest swing and everyone is happy, and not when the MC is left alone and the other guy gets both girls.

>>283004309
I wish I could tell you but I have been skipping on my Daily JP anki
so I have no idea what is going on

>>283004412
this is literally rape btw

>>283004398
This. We need more honest swing stories. Too often author uses it as excuse for standard NTR story when other guy gets all bitches.

>>283003899
Holy fuck my sides lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

This shit is horrible for the soul.

>>283004521
you're joking right

yawn

Let me guess: he doesn't enjoy swinging but she does.

>>283004521
>Makes him cum only to tell him they are going swinging tonight
wow

>>283004309
My money is at her using swinging as a means to make him turn gay by the end or at least bi sexual

>>283004703
>>283004722
>>283004739
what's your move here anons?

>>283004703
There's something kind of nauseating about seeing his wife dressed in such a boring outfit knowing she probably just came on the other guy's dick minimum three times. Feels so deceitful and it reminds me how idols on twitter will post themselves in overcoats and the baggiest sweaters in public only to post their asshole all over the internet for money

>>283004751
Eat her pussy out while it's still fresh

>>283004751
Divorce. Barring that, force my wife to move with me to the countryside and become a hyper-possessive borderline abusive husband who chases away other men

>>283004739
Chapter 3 end.
I going to stop there today.
I hope that somebody will pick this up for translation. If necessary, I can provide tankoubon raw. Just ask on Mangadex forum under manga.

>>283004309
These kind of stories always try to play a "subversion" in which the man (traditionally "the wolf" in nip media) is pure and believes in love, while the girl (traditionally "the sheep") has hidden lustful desires that her passive partner can't satiate and takes advantage of the swings to find men who can.

It's always the same story beat, every single time.

>>283004703
How big do you think his cock is in relation to the cuck?

>>283004862
At least twice as big. Doujin taught me so.

>>283004885
Not only that, but the very act of putting it in will cause the first of at least 10 orgasms.

>>283004831
thanks anon, i'm not sure if "enjoying" is the right word here but this was an interesting read for sure
i too hope someone picks it up

>>283004885
But this isn't a NTR doujin. It's a swing couple

>>283005007
It's not a true a swing couple until both enjoy the experience. Judging by the dumped chapters, he's still not fully on board with letting other men defile his wife, which counts as NTR.

>>283004703
Why did they fucked in a different room? Isn't the point of swinging is two pairs fucking in a single, large room?
This is just NTR at this point.

>>283005049
>>283005097
uhhh i don't think it counts as ntr

>>283004916
So far there is 28 chapters. First couple is pretty much just introductional and their part is closed after first volume without any deeper drama. Second couple is where things get complicated. And on top of that MC meets this girl >>282999179, and get's interested in her without telling to main girl. Right now it's not clear whether author plans MC fully move to cheating on MC's side or setting up something else.

>>283005176
wow she's a cutie

>>283005097
No. Having it separate in two rooms is also way.

>>283005175
your opinion doesn't matter

>>283005097
2 couples 1 room and full-on orgy involving 3+ couples are the variations that became popular in porn, but one couple per room is the usual setup when starting out in the swinging world.

>>283005263
>the swinging world
Sounds like serious business

It's pretty funny how quickly the second couple male moves the MC's wife into bondage and enjoying getting roughed up, meanwhile the MC is taking care to be delicate with the dude's girl because he hits her and yells at her.

This is officially a soul corrupting series. Just leave it to the Japanese to fetishize having your life torn apart

Another ntr trash and anons fucking love it.

>>283005296
It is. Rules are always important. You can even see them making some there >>283003282

>>283005263
>>283005209
>but one couple per room is the usual setup when starting out in the swinging world.
Maybe its my virgin heart but this feels like sodomy with extra steps.

>>283005296
It can destroy couples quite easily when boundaries are not agreed upon in advance. It's not uncommon for someone to become attached to a partner from another couple and begin cheating on their own partner with them.

>>282998777 (OP)
That's just ntr with extra steps

>>283005356
>It's not uncommon

Read: it's very common for this to occur between couples under the average age of 50

I can get off to swinging or netorase only if it progresses to full netorare.

>>283005474
Get out. We need some stories that are pure simple swing with no NTR turn.

>>283005611
This, you can't even have cheating anymore without some retard yelling "NTR!"

>>283005611
>>283005634
What is NTR to you? For me it's about the permanent consequences. Something has to change forever. For example, in my eyes a couple can still be together but if the child isn't the husband/boyfriend's then it's netorare.

>>283005611
Brother do you see how happy this whore is compare to her bf? >>283004739

Ain't no way this isn't gonna end in fullblown NTR, it's so obvious what's gonna happen.
The plot-twist is gonna be the guy that NTRs his whore gf and honestly i wish all of it was out just so i could get the gratification now

>>283004086
>>283004144
>>283004144
Elveen rune scholars i NEED you to translate this.

>>283004739
The fatfuck pulled her hair, right?

>>283005861
Yep, main problem was her being masochistic girl who into being slave or someshit. Mc is a classic nice guy who can't give his woman proper treatment. He is into caring for that domestic violence blond hag.

Basically mc and fmc don't fit eachother

>>282998777 (OP)
The best part is when she gets raped by the guy from the second couple they swing with. That guy seems to even beats his girlfriend. The main whore goes back to get violated by him a couple more times after the first rape.
Basically the whole thing is about a couple where the girl wants to fuck anyone but her boyfriend and talks him into swinging which he does not really want to do. It's the same shit as "Entanglement:My truth your lies". If you don't believe me check out the chapter with the second couple in the hotel room where he lies next to her while she is getting fucked by the chubby guy.

>>283004739
swinging is always ntr

>>283006016
Holy fuck that's hot. Reminds me of that story by Otaku Beam where the cheating wife gets drug-raped in the second chapter and that's the guy she continues hooking up with after she divorces her husband.

I love swapping, specially if the main female continues seeing the men in secret.

>>283006162
Yeah, in this the main girl confesses to the MC that the second couple's male broke their "rule". I think he fucked her without a condom and just went in without any lube or anything, she even cried. A couple of chapters later she goes back to the guy to get tied up and fucked hard.

>>283005861
He did and the worst part was that she didn't even bother fixing it when meeting with the cuck again.
Nothing wrong with being intimate with him but at least try and look presentable once the deed is done.

>sex haver
>still looks and talks like a faggot
They should start blacklisting some mangaka from the industry for it to improve.

>>283006340
It's funny how the author tries to make it seem like they (the main couple) are both bad people.
She fucks the fat guy in her kitchen which the MC sees when he come home from uni.
The MC on the other hand seems to enjoy having sex with women who actually want him (unlike the main girl). He keeps fucking the second girl after they warm up to each other and meets the blonde girl (not the blonde hag), who also wants to have sex with him.
Can you blame him for wanting to fuck girls who want him as much as he wants them?

>>283006301
Why are w*men like this?

>>282998777 (OP)
I sometimes wonder how mentally ill one must be to write this dogshit. NTR is fun when it's in small doses and just in minor subplots but when you make it the core theme of your story, then it becomes just misery porn but not even the good kind

>>283006524
decades of demoralization and zero self esteem would do that to anyone

>>283006489
They are dishonest. If she told her boyfriend to do shibari bondage or spank her he would do it.
Main problem is their shame culture, they can't tell such things to their boyfriends but easily tell it to strangers since no shame

>>283006568
I don't think they ever really explain why she (main girl) does not enjoy having sex with MC. She either does the starfish (and makes a weird face during sex) or rejects him completely. The author never goes into detail what the fuck is wrong with her

swingfags always say it's not about ntr
yet it's always the same story of how MC isn't really into it while the girl fucks to kingdom come

>>283006793
This is what happens in open relationships 100% of the time.

>>283006777
Stinky penis havin ass

>>283006259
Chapter 3 fuking when?

>>283006432
This whole situation could be avoided if the girl were honest with her feelings. That is: she doesn't want anything to do with the guy sexually, they should have broken up and moved on, not only the MC would have found other people who genuinely cared for him sexually but both wouldn't have to jump through so many hoops and rules.
I don't think the MC is bad, just super passive and should've ended with her as soon as he met the other girls. But the girl is pure evil

>>283006793
>implying the guy isn't fucking other girls too

>>283001256
>>283001415
He keeps licking her mouth while she's totally clamped up.

>>283002304
>>283002321
And the bitch as already called over another couple, that's every alarm bell in the book nigga, run away.

>>283006892
Yeah, whole thing could have been solved by them breaking up.
But since the author needs them to be stupid as a vehicle to create NTR scenarios

>>283006961
no shit holmes, if they broke up there'd be no story

>>282998777 (OP)
>FMC hand is fully closed
>MC isn't
Subtle

>>282998777 (OP)
If you want something similar but even worse, check out "Grapara!" by Katsura Airi and Nishikida Keishi.
The main girl is always about to get NTR "raped" cause she is actually retarded, while the main guy is a spineless wimp who tries to support her in her "efforts" to become a gravure
idol.
Also every male besides MC is a possible NTR-man all the time.

>>283006892
Dysfunctional couples usually lean too hard on one side of the coin: either sex becomes a routine and loses all excitement, which leaves only a "better than friends" codependent relationship, or they try bonding physically through sex and neglect communication. I think the main couple falls in the former case.

>>283006892
>she doesn't want anything to do with the guy sexually
Where did you even get that. They pretty much do sex stuff together during manga several times.

>>283006793
Do you think the guys who back a losing heroine want her to lose the bowl? What is being given isn't what we want, but there's not much you can do about it.

>>283007088
Why not subvert the expectations and actually do that? Have a MC who can stand up and say no
There is always a story, you just have to find the right angle

>>283007338
Yes, they do but the main girl always has an uncomfortable expression on her face (when they have sex) and seems unwilling.
That one time they have sex and it is shown, she wants him to cover her face under some pretense while in reality she does that to hide her discomfort

>>283007338
The opening sex scene between the two of them is her refusing to kiss him and shove him off of her, doesn't seem like she wants to fuck him at all.

>>283007467
I think that you rather see things that may not be there. First of all, she pretty happily blows him after final swing with first couple and second that her expression during that one scene can have far more meanings than just discomfort.

>>282998777 (OP)
I want a wife like her

>>283007534
You know, woman can refuse you at times. That doesn't mean she doesn't want have sex with you at all. Here he tried to finger her. She did not wanted it for whatever reason.

>>283007620
Are you sure?

I am going to masturbate to this furiously later. Thanks OP.

>>283004739
so they never show the girl part?

>>282998777 (OP)
Ew

>>283007916
cock too small

bull is needed

>>283007916
Yeah. This could be anything, from disappointment, over confusion to crushing. It's simply too vague to say for sure. Fact that you interpret it worst way, just shows what is your desire for direction of this story.

>>283005686
I hope adoption stories aren't ntr

>>283007735
>You know, woman can refuse you at times.
For a kiss? That is like the basic of the basic form of showing love/intimacy

>>283007994
yes, in the following chapters and from there on out the girls side is shown extensively

>>283007934
It could be also something on note "I don't want you to see me like this."

>>283008092
What do you mean "desire for direction of this story"? I've read all 28 chapters of the story that have been released. I know where it goes after this scene

>>283008118
Yes, even kiss. There may be moments when woman feels that it's not right time to be intimate at all. Anyway as I said, here she is not refusing kiss, but getting fingered. And that's way beyond basic intimacy.

>>283008177
>I know where it goes after this scene
THIS. You know. You are already sure. You don't need any further reassurance. Just from the heroine's simple expression, you were able to predict whole future plot. I wonder, if you predition will be correct.

>>283005305
I don't believe you, or rather i want to believe you and need that you post pages of such degeneracy

I hate NTR, but I like the character designs,but yeah

>>283008260
This is not the newest chapter you retard. This is from chapter 15 out of 28. Learn to read.

Velvet kiss is the only good manga about swinging

>>283008403
Real and true

>>283008330
Yeah, newest chapter implies NTR rather from HIS side, than her side. As he was pretty much willing to kiss another girl without heroine's knowledge. She on other side so far did nothing beyond swinging.

I love netorare so much.

>>282998777 (OP)
So wait, what's the manga's name?
Where are the raws? search image does not help

>>283008292
This after he basically raped her

>>283008518
So what about the time she fucked the fat guy in her kitchen while MC was at uni?
Or the time she went back to the guy from couple 2 after he roughed her up and broke their rule?
You might have forgotten that the guy from couple 2 seems to abuse his girlfriend and even came to MC's apartment (as a threat) when he wanted to stop swinging with them (couple 2)

>>283008542
>So wait, what's the manga's name?
Japanese title: Soredemo Ashita mo Kareshi ga Ii
English title: Even So, I Still Want to Be Your Boyfriend Tomorrow.
>Where are the raws?
Web versions here:
https://yanmaga.jp/comics/それでも明日も彼氏がいい
Tankoubon version:
My own copy, which I bought on Bookwalker.

>>283008184
I will take your word for it.

feminism was a mistake

We must be better men.

>>283008625
>So what about the time she fucked the fat guy in her kitchen while MC was at uni?
Anon, that was just MC daydreaming. Fat guy was not there.
>Or the time she went back to the guy from couple 2 after he roughed her up and broke their rule?
MC was first to broke rule when he met with other girl. Dude found it out, which is why he went rough on heroine. During that dude tells heroine what MC did and then MC and heroine have talk during which they sort out thing and decide heal relationship between couple. She went to him because of that. Just like MC went to other girl at same time.

Simply put. You clearly ignoring plot and forcing your wish on straighfoward NTR. I don't say that you don't get it eventually, it's not happening yet.

>>283008730
Patience is virtue. Some girls and people overal need their own speed on things.

>every post defending the girl is from ESLs
Im nooooticing
>>283007916
I dont know why she even bothers. like she clearly gets mad after he ""cheats"" on her with picrel but why? it makes no sense

>>282998777 (OP)
I hate this

>>283009564
Adultery is bad okay gang

>>283009583
how can something that makes my pp this hard be bad?

>>283009623
Pic related was made specifically for moments like this.

>>283009338
Well at least the MC cucks the main girl with the one in the picture you posted in the latest chapters (main girl is on the phone while MC and the other girl fuck)

>>283009623
You have a bad pp

>>283009691
yes I know that's where I got that pic from
still I cant get a read on her. on the one hand it makes me think she was angry ONLY because she didnt let her watch on the other if you wont even fuck him why would you get off to being thirdwheeled?

>>283009829
Maybe it is a woman thing and it won't make any sense no matter how you look at it

threadly reminder that it's not rape if her pupils turn into hearts

>>283009338
>Im nooooticing
What exactly?

>>283004347
You're unironically a faggot, then.

>>283005611
We don't need cuckshit in any of its variants.

>>283010032
Sharing is caring, not cucking.

>>283009583
It's not adultery if everyone are OK with it.

>>283008670
wait...AWW HELL NAWW

>>283010712
yup
>>283010219
>most self aware commie

>>283010712
Yes and one of the other people who worked on it, is now writing "GraPara!"

>>283010760
Dont know what that is

Swinging manga where 2 het couples swap and the mc husband gets fucked by the other husband please

>>283004831
Can you post all the raws you have please? I have absolutely no idea where to dl raw scans because i'm used to read english tl instead.

>>283010896
>the thread is nothing but cuckshit and literal faggots
Absolutely disgusting. I don't know why I expected any different, this is why "swinging", watching other couples and all other "experimenting" with other people is still cuckshit garbage.

>>283009684
>>283009623

>>283010864
another cuck manga

>>283010931
If you are fine with web versions, then go on https://yanmaga.jp/ register there and then you should be able read all chapters for free. (Even if some will unlock for one day only)

We must be better

I'm not deep enough into the porn addiction rabbit hole to enjoy shit like this.

>>283011410
Don't expose yourself to it too much

>>283011410
no one here cares about the sex
what's interesting is the cheating part that the mc and his girlfriend do

>>282998777 (OP)
The Japanese love this shit

>>283002131
>Holy shit, you can speak Japanese?!

>>283004109
>>283004646
>>283010896
Based

>>283009884
Everyone always wants to know if her pupils turn to hearts, but what about his pupils, huh?

>>283012297
It's actually insane trying to figure out if this is some kind of fucked up fad perpetuated by the authors onto readers for cheap drama or if there's a subsection of authors who are aware how popular it is among the japanese general public. If it's just being used as a marketing tool by editors and mangakas, why won't it die out? Why do the japanese consume so much swinging/ntr shit?

>>283013137
Hot

>>283012608
lel
>>283013201
it's essentially sex and gossiping combined of course it wont die out

>>283010623
Getting real tired of people who think consent is the only thing that matters

>>283013711
Ok, teach me, wise Anon. What else matters?

>>283004703
Me on the back

>>283007735
Your argument would have some value, if not for the fact that she said here>>283002084 that she can't be turned on by any guy she's going out with and keeps fantasizing about doing it with other people. She's a terrible woman.

I see this took great inspiration from Kanokari.

Even as someone that likes NTR I wouldn't try this with my wife in real life, it sounds so dumb, also she would stab me if I even tried to entertain the idea.

>>283016409
Kanokari is psychological horror while this is more akin to ryona for the soul

>Go through the raws
>secod girls seems to be a little crazy and ends up clinging to mc
neat
>third girl is massive Yaoi fujo
kek

>>283013201
>Why do the japanese consume so much swinging/ntr shit?
As someone that actually studied japanese history, this shit was pretty common before ww2, acceptable cheating I mean, hell not being able to maintain a mistress or two was sign of being a lesser man, you could even throw it as an insult, if anything the full monogamy don't cheat on me thing is pretty recent indeed, and in the bubble era shit was even worse with the full force feminism of the 80s, which is also funny because that was the idol age so you had sluts at one side and super chaste and pure girls on the other side.
The japanese are special indeed.

>>282998777 (OP)
what's up with nips and cuckoldry?

>>283016868
And you still wonder why NTR sells so well.

>>283001899
I like where this is going
>>283002002
Not quite

>>283004739
Her pussy was never the same

>>283017009
Swingers are gays as fuck

>>283013201
>>283016686
There definitely isn't as much swinging mangas as there is NTR mangas. Too often swinging is just bait and switch to classic NTR.

>>283017495
Why does the difference matter
It's all trash

>>283017509
Because some people want just simple vanilla swinging.

The chain of Karami Zakari
>Karami Zakari blonde girl edition,, has multiple NTR IN IT
>Karami Zakari gay edition (as in MC+Bald guy), yes it is real
>Karami Zakari non hentai edition (Still has NTR in it)
>Some one-shot NTR by the same artist as the non-hentai version
>Karami Zakari Isekai edition: Someone reading the OG reincarnates into baldie, still has NTR in it
>Grapara, has NTR of side characters and NTR bait to the FMC
All of these came from the original series, both the artist and author are rolling in NTR money

>>283017545
Also it's more to fun read about two couples pushing their boundaries before reaching some conclusion. Than about how much MC is inferior to other guy, before he gets abandoned by everyone.
If I wanted other, I can read classic NTR. No need for whole swinging part in such case.

>>283017612
Author is not involved in this.

Something in reverse psychology could explain japs obsession with ntr. Basically seeing happy vanilla pair makes them hurt with jealousy. I don't like to see happy pairs on the streets too. It makes me sad about my wasted potential.

Its like deluding yourself. She is ntr whore and he is a cuck, I'm single because there are no good girls, it's not mu fault they think after seeing vanilla

>>283017545
>vanilla swinging
No such thing. The moment it's with another partner, it's no longer vanilla.

>>283017722
What if other couple is pair of lesbians?

>>283017814
Still NTR. The MC of Mob Otome is still a cuck if his harem kissed each other before they kissed him.

>>283017814
>>283017846
What if it becomes an fffm foursome?

>>282998777 (OP)
Does the guy get with another man? Or do they cuck out on making this a real swingers manga? Asking the real important questions here. Otherwise, it's disingenuous and lame.

>>283010712
>SEAfags still trying to pretend this shit isn't NTR coded

>>283008933
So, even before knowing what happened with the MC and other girl was willing to break the rule and fuck that guy. People forget that characters don't have our perspective as a reader.
In this situation it means she was willing to fuck this guy without the MC knowing regardless.

>>283006826
>>283006259
this seems good thanks

>>283018886
Again you intentionally twisting things. MC was first to break rule. Heroine did normal swinging, until other guy told her about what MC was doing. After that MC and heroine had private talk, sorted things and decided to help other couple. So far heroine did nothing that the hero doesn't know or at least isn't aware.

>>282998777 (OP)
You people NEVER read before posting, this "swinging" series become some weird harem with a bunch of girls in love with Main Male Character. But in this thread is just NTR spam. Why use the word NTR if you never use it correctly? I almost never see people using NTR in the correct context. It doesn't help that a lot of people think Love Triangle and Cheating is the same as NTR

>>283019588
>Why use the word NTR if you never use it correctly?
Because it's not a word, it's an acronym with 3 distinct meanings
NeToRare (to be stolen)
NeToRi (To steal)
NeToRase (to give away)

>>283019749
Those are 3 different words

>>283019801
And NTR is 3 letters
解るかい？

>>283017009
>It was a groom op all along
knew it, he is kind of cute so he was build for stranger swinger cock

>>283019749
90%of ntr is netorare. Ao basically ntr mean to be stolen

>>283019397
No, you are the one twisting shit. Again, the fmc doesn't have the readers perspective.
The other boyfriend didn't tell her what happened until she already started fucking him.
From her perspective she had no idea the MC did anything yet and still chose to fuck behind his back.

>>283019898
>90%of ntr is netorare
Those that read NTR would disagree since the majority self insert as the one doing the cucking effectively making it Netori.

>>283019588
The FMC is still fucking the other guy, she chose to stay with the MC because he accepted her freakiness, that's all. How is it a harem when the last guy she fucked wasn't the MC?

>>283019941
Ntr is for cucks. They self insert as a cuck whos girl being stolen from him.

>>283019981
True, I'm a cuck and when I read NTR I self insert as the cuck.

So ntr means cockoldry
Cheating means fuck other girls like a chad or old fat bald bastard

>>283019981
I like to self insert as the girl betraying the trust of her partner for the thrill of being made into a plaything

>>283020023
NTR is strictly a descriptor for the feeling of having a loved one stolen.
Hence non-incest NTR involving moms and sisters.

>>283020040
Mom ntr is the best kind of ntr.

>>283019954
>How is it a harem when the last guy she fucked wasn't the MC?
You are commenting without reading the actual work, the series was a poorly attempt of swinging and little by little it become a bunch of girls getting obsessed with the main male character. So it become this weird harem series

>>283020084
>You are commenting without reading the actual work
No, I am commenting after just reading it. You are a defensive cuck.
She literally just fucked the other guy two chapters ago while the MC went on his date with the other girl.

>>283020007
10/10 post.

>>283019941
>>283019981
>>283019989
What is this weird "self-insert" myth? Why people always spam it?

>>283020126
Lower intelligence people genuinely can't read stories without self-inserting.
It's the breakfast problem in action.

>>283020099
I do not understand what part of my post confuses you? The series became this weird harem but for some reason you think a bunch of girls obsessed with the main male character is not a Harem?

>>282998777 (OP)
Oh did the Entanglement manga already end? Was it any good?

>>283020164
I get it, there is not enough cucking for you, cuck.
However, I also noticed you realized I was right, that the FMC has been fucking someone other than the MC more than the MC, nice harem, cuck.

>>283020126
Nice try, cuck, we don't have female POV only because it ruins self inserting feelings. If we had her inner monologues about mc having small dick or how good it to be fucked roughly this manga would be about swinging.
We only being around mc since readers are self insert

>>283020176
Why are you spamming the word cuck? It doesn't even apply in this case. And like a said before this is a weird harem series the swinging partners are the girls that are becoming obsessed with the main male character to the point they seek him for sexual encounters, the authors is even introducing more girls

>>283020238
We do see her getting fucked from her perspective and enjoying it more.

>>283020238
I cannot comprehend the way you read stories, is like you can't look at them objectively. You always try searching for some hidden meanings, because you are trying to outsmart the Author?

>>283020240
>Why are you spamming the word cuck? It doesn't even apply in this case.
Because you are a cuck that is literally crying about the MC not being cucked enough.
How low is your IQ that you don't even understand your own complaint?
Especially when that complaint is still retarded because the FMC has fucked other guys more than she's fucked the MC. Also, she had to hide her face because the MC wasn't making her feel good enough. Yet you still want more cucking because you're a cuck.

>>283020265
Just accept that you are self inserting cuck. You are not swingerlover, just lil ntr fag

>>283019937
You are twisting things by ignoring what is actually happening in the manga. You deliberately trying to see heroine as cheating slut, because you probably need your daily dose of NTR. But no so far heroine did nothing without MC's complete knowledge. When dude told her that MC was doing it was in middle of swinging session. While MC was fucking dude's girlfriend. Take off your NTR glasses and try paying attention to what is actually happening in manga.

>>283020269
I feel like you don't want to communicate with me, so you are trying to get obsessed with the word cuck in an attempt to discredit my whole observation and argument of the story

>>283020289
>You are not swingerlover, just lil ntr fag
I'm not trying to love anything, I just want to understand what the author is trying to write

I like how this manga gave so lot people ntr fetish. Wypepo especially love it

>>283020294
No, I am just not simping for a fictional woman like you and only described the actual sequence of events in the story.

>>283020326
Real NTR fetish or the porn version that thinks NTR is this weird magic sex thing? Instead of the stuff you see in Shoujo/Josei that needs 100+chapters of set up

>>283020296
>cuck that can't accept being a cuck
Get some therapy anon. Your entire complaint is that the MC is getting cucked enough yet you think you aren't into cucking.
You seem to be a bit of a fucking retard desu.

>>283020358
>is
isn't*

>>283020358
I'm trying to talk about the harem aspect of the series

>>283020385
Yes, you were complaining about the MC getting interest from women instead of simply being sidelined as a cuck.
The swinging is still happening, it literally just happened in the story where his gf fucked another guy.
Yet, you are complaining that the MC is also getting action and isn't just stuck in a corner.

>>283020352
It is realistic manga depicting real Japanese relationship. Its happening righ now in Japan.

>>283020408
>you are complaining that the MC is also getting action
I never said this

NTR is the thinking man's fetish

>>283000081
Why even date if you want to fuck around? I will never understand open relationships or swinging. Just keep the person you want to fuck more than others as a fuck buddy, why add the extra steps to fuck around with others?

>>283020414
>It is realistic manga
Nope, not at all. Maybe if you have an extremely bad understanding of people

>>283012260
I'm only interested in the sex part. A friend couple opened their relationship, and it really was just a desperate attempt to delay their breakup. MC-kun should've just left her there and then at bench.

>>283020450
>this "swinging" series become some weird harem with a bunch of girls in love with Main Male Character
You aren't asking for swinging, you are asking for cuckoldry. The MC getting action while his gf is also fucking other guys is swinging, retard.

>>283020457
Something about love and the infinite deep of the human mind

And they even ask why so many romcoms end with a confession only. Later there is only bittersweet ntr

>>283020453
What's the thinking woman's fetish?

>>283006793
Anthony Burch is the one who wanted to cheat on his spouse. It's his own fault for being a fucking retard with no redeeming value.

>>283020471
Check on reddit. Open relationship is popular as fuck especially in the west. Japan catching up
Manga is realistic

>>283020481
What I said is not a negative, is just a neutral statement of what is happening in this story. I cannot comprehend how you saw it as a complain or a negative

>>283020515
>Check on reddit.

>>283020498
>Later there is only bittersweet ntr
Anon you don't know what NTR is

>>283020515
Japan can barely tolerate prostitution as long as it's purely physical. Emotional cheating is a big no-no.

>>283020523
>is going to pretend he wasn't complaining now
lol
sure buddy, you never posted the following
>the series was a poorly attempt of swinging and little by little it become a bunch of girls getting obsessed with the main male character. So it become this weird harem series
>And like a said before this is a weird harem series the swinging partners are the girls that are becoming obsessed with the main male character to the point they seek him for sexual encounters
>seek him for sexual encounters
Again, you are just mad he's not being cucked the entire time. You need therapy for your repressed cuckoldry.

>>283020515
The majority of these reddit stories are fake and extremely difficult to write these type of stories because authors always try to use a combination of magic sex logic + sex is not that important and has 0 psychological and physical effects on the characters

>>283020538
Its <i love my gf she makes me happy but when she is with other men in bed i feel bad>
Ntr is bittersweet as fuck

>>283020559
>you are just mad he's not being cucked the entire
But I'm not

>>283020572
That is not NTR

>>283020557
And still we have emotional cheating at the top position in all porn surveys, ntr manga is crazy popular in japan too.
They love it

>>283020587
When you complain about it being poorly written because other female characters actually like the MC and want to have sex with him, calling it a harem when the FMC is still fucking other guys.
You can try to play dumb all you want SEAfag but your entire complaint is that the MC is still getting sex so it's now somehow a harem despite the fmc still fucking other guys, you know, like swingers.

>>283020615
>ntr manga is crazy popular in japan too.
>They love it
What are you talking about? Why are you taking porn surveys so seriously? And porn is so badly written because is always some magic sex

>>283020651
NTR manga sell very well in Japan, anon, he's not lying. One of them that is adjacent to this story just had a live-action version announced.

I can see how mc and fmc being fucked together by fat ojisan and that wife beating dude.
Mc doesn't look straight, he is bi.

>>283020635
>When you complain about it being poorly written
Because it is.
>calling it a harem when the FMC is still fucking other guys.
When the main male character has a bunch of girls obsessed with him, we normally call those series Harems

Guys guys let's calm down. Let's get back at the topic at hand that is the swinging manga please.

>>283020691
Ah yes, the famous harem series where all the girls fuck other guys. It's so funny you can't accept your own desire to see more cuckoldry, whatever, enjoy your repressed desires.

>>283020672
>he's not lying
I never said he was lying
>NTR manga sell very well in Japan
This happens globally for some reason people in /a/ want you to believe is something that only happens in japan

>>283020712
Japan is ntr HQ

Japs' obsession with getting cucked is reaching concerning levels.

>>283020738
Can't wait for adding migrants to the reception

>>283020706
>the famous harem series where all the girls fuck other guys
Obviously they fuck other guys those are their boyfriends, but is still a Harem because those girls are getting intense interest on our MC, the author even introduced a new girl >>283017009 please read the series before posting

>>283020733
>>283020738
Again why are you gaslighting yourself into believing this headcanon?

>a hate NTR
>Ntr manga discussions are always reach bump limit
Hypocrisy, just accept that you love ntr, feeling of your beloved girl being fucked by other men make you feel something bittersweet

>>283020861
99% of NTR are not real NTR threads, they are actually porn threads because discussion of actual NTR is extremely difficult specially because people here are afraid of talking about shoujo/josei series

>>283002304
ENTER

>>283020919
Could someone post the NTR lizardman picture? I needed it not too long ago and didn't have it saved

>>283020919
They don't talk about them because they don't read female orientated manga just like we don't play video games with female protagonist. Womens problematics are too far off to us.
And 90% NTR is male orientated male POV genre.

>>283020768
You have to be trolling. No one can genuinely be this retarded.

>>283020976
>>283020990
Porn NTR is extremely boring because is devoid of Logic and use magic sex as a jail free card for everything, in Shoujo/Josei you can have 100+ chapters of set up and another 100+ chapters to explore way more interesting concepts

>>283021034
>a female anon can't get the genre created by men for men
Men are cucks, we like this

>>282998777 (OP)
Can someone please translate this series? is more of a Love Triangle story but it sounds super interesting to discuss with /a/

https://mangadex.org/title/c158261d-fad9-45e8-a7c9-02c1e20e6792/kecchin?

>>283021104
>Men are cucks, we like this
if that is true why you don't ask for something better written so it can feel more real?

>>282998777 (OP)
>>283021120
This is the synopsis:

Shu, Yu, and Mako have been friends since they were little, but after middle school graduation they begin to drift apart. Shu has become the rough kid of the three, with his motorbike, cigarettes and porn. He's going to follow his brother into carpentry. Yu is the smart kid, and he's developed a crush on Mako. They attempt to enter the same high school - one below his mental abilities, but unfortunately above hers. After Mako fails the entrance exam, she goes to another school and works part-time as a waitress.
Now Yu is going to high school alone, but he soon makes friends with a pretty girl who encourages his newly-discovered tentative interest in motorcycles.

Will Shu, Yu, and Mako be able to keep their friendship alive, despite the different paths their lives have taken? What will happen with Yu's crush on Mako, now that he's growing closer to another girl?

>>283020861
I like NTR, sadly most of the times it isn't well done, I hate how authors go to the "I love him because of his huge dick" instead of going through the more slowburn route like some VNs do.
Slow corruption is way better indeed.

>>283021352
It more realistic. Women just like that. Sadly that men can't accept it.

>>283021397
Not really, in real life cheating and leaving isn't merely a physical thing, NTR hentai goes through that boring route instead of dwelling more on the psychological side of things for over a page or two.
That's the difference on why NTR on both josei and shoujo manga is better while only a few VNs are actually good at it.
Hentai NTR most of the time feels no different from make believe sex, very boring.

>>283021397
The irony, it's actually men that obsess over getting cucked by a "superior dick".
For women it's far more about the actual seduction and foreplay, the attention.

>>283021176
>Shu has become the rough kid of the three, with his motorbike, cigarettes and porn.
He is literally me

>>283021034
>>283021531
For some reason "NTR hentai" is SUPER GAY, you waste more time looking and talking about dicks than than the girl.

>>283021619
Men don't give a shit about girls feelings.
Female in ntr story is a medium between 2 men: one is a weak cuck and strong chad.

>>283001899
Source?

>>283019895
Foreshadowing...

>>283020007
KEK

clover did it better, they're both bros and genuinely enjoy it without that psychological masochism crap you can see in the dude's eyes in OP image

>>283020007
LOLZ

>>283024791
I keep forgetting that sex is a pretty psychological heavy activity. And that you can have all the right "attributes" and still fall short or don't enjoy it as much because your mind is not on it.

>>283024791
NTR kino

>>283024791
Fujo girl in the cuck chair watching mc and his wife get their backs blown out

>>283026184
I don't think you understand what NTR is

The girl design and artstyle is too cute for this I don't like it

>>283029555
>is too cute for this I don't like it
???

>>283030222
cute girls shouldn't be in swinging relationships getting roughed up

i hope this manga never, NEVER gets translated. It makes me sick.

I love netorare so much it's unreal. Weak omega male dicklets should not be allowed to reproduce.

>>282998777 (OP)
Netorase>>>Netorare

>NTR thread in /a/
>hits bump limit everytime
This place used to be purityfag central this shows how truly fucked and broken modern society is....

>>283000081
True. I used to know two different poly relationships in college and everyone involved was a freak.

>>283002131
Leave, I guess.

I genuinely held up my big sister's relationship as the example of how monogamy could work between people for decades since she's been with her boyfriend since HS and now she's forty. Turns out almost the entire time they were swingers and her boyfriend fucked dudes. She confessed to me last year. She also has a girlfriend on the side.

It's none of my business but I've legit never looked at her the same way since and just kinda avoid her. I don't know if I'm in the right or not.

>Draw cute couple!
>Make the girlfriend discover she's a masochist!
Better.

>>283032004
>she's been with her boyfriend since HS and now she's forty
>her boyfriend fucked dudes
>She also has a girlfriend on the side.
H-hot...

>>283032004
>just kinda avoid her
100000% in the right

>>283032197
*sadist

>>283020056
>Mom ntr is the best kind of ntr.
this
>>283020007
LMAO
>>283030521
I do. this is the story of how a girl broke her social programming and turned into Aya "everyone but the bassist" Hirano, one dick at a time

harem is patrician
ntr is disgusting

>>283032004
>she's been with her boyfriend since HS and now she's forty. Turns out almost the entire time they were swingers and her boyfriend fucked dudes
God I wish that were me

>>283032850
Even if your girlfriend fucks other girls?

>>283020343
>described the actual sequence of events in the story.
You clearly not.

>>283020861
Controversy = clicks.
It's easy enough to filter or hide threads, but everyone in this thread is trying say how swinging good, or swinging bad, but nobody comes here to be convinced, so nobody is getting persuaded.

>>283033004
I'm the girlfriend not the boyfriend

>>283018616
>coded
Go back.

>>283032444
Harem is for little boys who don't know eating too much chocolate will make them sick
NTR is for people without souls

>>283033301
Okay. Would YOU fuck other girls?

where my netorase to netorare chads?

>>283033423
In the ideal scenario I wouldn't have to. But maybe

>>283033647
Oh... Thanks for the reply, anyway.

>>283001542
>>283001552
>>283001580
at this point you just break things off. She doesn't actually like him at all, which becomes even more obvious later on

im not proud of myself but this lil manga that involves a girlfriend lending her boyfriend can be considered swinging and a little of netorare, and a love it.

>>283033647
What is the ideal scenario then? Having a boyfriend that fucks other dudes? Is he fucking or getting fucked?

>>283033476
damn she looks hot af

>>283035330
they staying a couple doesnt make any sense whatsoever, unless it's revealed that she is keeping him around as her beta provider
>>283035430
meh that's just harem with extra steps

the main character will have a happy ending

>>283035580
haitoku sensei girls are great and his sex scenes are very dynamic. Dude's underrated as hell

>>282998859
>swinger
>American poster: i-i-its NTR NTR NTR

Retardest poster in this topic holy fuck go get some education

>>283036024
>spiritual sequel to karamisakari
no he wont lol. unless you meant the other kind

>>283035525
>What is the ideal scenario then?
It's evident that she's a straight "fujo" (for lack of a better word.)

>>283036138
>"swinging" but male MC is portrayed conflicted and agitated about the whole idea in nearly every page (empty pupils, bags under eyes, frowning)
>muh America out of nowhere
nearly every NTR fag on this site is a faggy, asperger ill brownoid SEA nigger with next to no sexual dimorphism, prove me wrong

>>283035330
>Oh no my girfriend did not wanted me to finger her once. Must dump her immediately.
No wonder that there is so many virgins on /a/

>>283035626
You being on /a/ on other hand makes perfect sense.

>>283035525
Getting

>>283036206
I know, I'm curious
>>283036472
You'd encourage that? Doesn't it make you think of him as less of a man?

>>283036297
Can you read before posting?

>>283036552
The way I see it, a "normal/masculine" guy who subs/bottoms has moe gap.

>>283032004
>gay and lesbian marry each other so they have a normal marriage while fucking the people they wanna fuck on the side
Only acceptable way to engage in homosexuality in my book.

>>283033301
You know the rules.

>>283036658
Ah, I see. So you're more interested in a manly guy doing it then a typical twink type of guy. Would you want him to have another partner or sleep around?

>>283036697
Bodytype actually doesn't matter all that much but personality does. Sex with others only when I'm in the room. Monogamy outside of those encounters.

manga of the year

im such a sucker for plots that involve an exgirlfriend that has been corrupted for other guy.

>>283036788
So a tough jock boyfriend that gets topped right in front of you. I think that's pretty cute anon.

I just like heavy drama in my romance slop

>>282998777 (OP)
I'm tired of the current era of NTR. I think future NTR hentai works should take these series as examples (although I don't think any of these examples are perfect, as they all rely heavily on "porn logic")

[Surumenium (Taniguchi Daisuke)] Another August, 10 Years Later with You

Anoko wa Boku ga Suki ja Nai Boku dake ga Kizuiteta Hazu no Loli Kyonyuu Jimikei Bungaku Shoujo

金田は何も悪くないVol.1 - 2

主人公はどう脳破壊されるのか？

Kimi no Maku o Yaburu no wa Boku dato Omotteta.. InCha NTR Monogatari part 1 and 2

ともかの ~親友の彼女としてはいけないコト

(Mashiraga Aki)] Story of the 'N' Situation - Situation#2 Kokoro Utsuri

たぶん誰でもよかった

Oh! and like pic related remember that people are extremely complicated, that is what makes sex so interesting (obviously pic related is a 20 pages hentai, so the interesting problem gets resolved in like half a page)

>>283024791
This is too painful. If a guy was able to make the women I love scream out of pure pleasure and ecstasy while I sat their filled with regret while his loose whore of a wife boringly rode me I'd brutally kill everyone in that room and I'd set myself on fire as penance for allowing it to get that far before jumping off a skyscraper.

>>283037674
Mental illness

>>283037971
Yeah, so?

>>283037971
Yours, if you disagree with him

>>283038355
Him? Stop talking about yourself in third person Anon.

>>283037674
Why don't you just jump right away? Free yourself from this torment of life anon. It's too restrictive for you.

>>282998777 (OP)
I remember one other manga of same kind. It had even cuter girls.

>>283038565
I need to suffer in pain before ending for doing something so stupid in the first place.

>>283038651
And their motivation to do whole thing was far more straightfoward.

I think this manga would be more tolerable if the main girl wasn't so cute and innocent looking.

>>283021552
Indeed, many guys fall for the trap of stopping giving attention to their wives once they get married.
Money enough won't keep her with you after all.

>>283038672
You already suffering from your restrictive life. There is no need to prolong it any longer.

>>283038709
Oh I thought you were replying in reference in to my fictional scenario, forgive me for assuming you weren't a faggot.

>>283038689
On the contrary, cute and innocent looking girl doing kinky stuff is allways most attracting thing on this stuff.

>>283038729
Fact that mere fictional scenario drives you crazy so much speak for itself.

>>283038814
>drives you crazy
projection, I forget about this thread and this entire post the moment I click out of it until the red notification eye pops in the bottom corner and reminds me that I even made a reply in this thread.

>>283036850
Digits? Why are her tits so low on her torso?

>>283037510
i think future NTR should just copy te to te tsunaide 100 times, if a girl wants to get cucked they should do it with 20 different guys at the same time

>>283037674
Don't worry it's not his forever. Soon he'll be screaming out of pure pleasure and ecstasy too. And they'll be holding hands while it happens.

>>282998777 (OP)
is this Boku Yaba sequel ?

>>283039232
>i think future NTR should just copy te to te tsunaide 100 times, if a girl wants to get cucked they should do it with 20 different guys at the same time
BORING, Porn Logic needs to die

We made it over 500 posts. Congratulation. Maybe more chapters will be dumped later in another thread. Unless somebody pick up translation first.

>>283037510
Anon, these examples are all "BSS"