Thread 283140607

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You can blame any timer difficulties on Demon-kun

>>283140668
THE GOAT ALWAYS COMES THROUGH

>>283140607 (OP)
Hey I'm curious is this series following like canon history to a point? Or his own thing completely?
Im asking for the obvious fact that historically MC dies and in a very miserable ugly way if I'm not remembering wrong

based chapter
i kneel takauji

>>283140607 (OP)
O_O Tokiyuki is cute.

>>283140668
Why couldn't Yuki have just been part of the main group?

>>283140860
Well if you ask me like that

>>283140860
look at what you've done anon.... you broke our main character

>>283140904
No! I refuse and will stop reading here

>>283140904
I don't wanna turn the page...

>>283140722
This is the final arc and we're all wondering the same thing.

>>283140941
>Tokiyuki should have sucked up but you wouldn't
Wouldn't the more expected opinion of the reader be that Tokiyuki should have rebelled because we love our main character and want him to thrive? I found this to be a bit of a weird jump in his, still unbelievably cool, monologue

The faces on Takauji's back are killing me.

End of chap-

>>283141059
Yes, Takauji-sama

>>283141025
>that drone with an artillery shell strapped to it
lmao

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>>283141025
How dare this backwards savage from the 1300s call me out

>>283141106
Defeater of the 4thwalliyuki

>>283141049
It's probably more of a historical perspective for the actual Japanese who know about this stuff from history class rather than Westerners getting it all from an adaption. Tokiyuki isn't exactly a hero figure in real life and doesn't get much in the way of empathy, more like 'odd footnote that took too long to get trampled'.

I would give anything to read this in a physical issue of Jump

>>283140722
Yes thats part of the intrigue in seeing what Matsui does with the ending. Takauji's God has already rewritten history in parts of the manga so who knows.

personally I think it will be a GOOD END and Tokiyuki will make it out and fake his death. But this is also Matsui so I wouldn't be shocked if he does actually get decapitated.

>>283141245
our HERO finally gets his boss page

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>>283141059
cant wait for this part to be animated

>>283141245
Young Lord is Good at Pursuing

>>283141245
I've been waiting for this moment

>>283140722
This might be the most ill-timed chapter to ask this question

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>>283141059
I feel like those only work as spreads. Every double page has a little bit on the top right that is peeling off, and it makes the arrows telling you to turn the page make more sense. It's even better when you turn the page and Tokiyuki comes from the top right to interrupt the 4th wall breaking with his own. But then again, no one should read manga page by page anyway, or even worse, with vertical scrolling.

>>283141224
Oh, I hadn't thought about it that way, that explains it, thanks!

>Matsui pull the deadpool
i fell second hand cringe

>>283141059
>straight up turns to the reader and explains the subtext
How does he get away with it?

Matsui better not wimp out and let the little shit win.

Great chapter. Now that Fubuki has been sidelined again, he should die to some random mook in the battlefield.

>>283141366
stop being reddit please

>>283141245
Don't do it Tokiyuki! Cool as they are, the demon tags are jobber flags!

Matsui never disappoints but holy shit. What a final fight and crazy chapter. We went from puking acrobatic threesome to murdering the fourth wall, cool monolog, takauji-san

>>283141245
THE BIRB

>>283141337
I've begun to notice that TES paneling is usually better when you're reading it 2 pages a time, like in a book

>>283140980
Reminds me of the Twitter discourse that happens every now and then about medieval people hygiene and how they'd just assume knights shat in their own armor

>>283141614
most manga are, it's just that often people don't give a shit

from the puke battle to breaking the fourth wall. Matsui never let me down.

>>283140875
Too different from history unfortunately. He really was this insane in life

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>>283141768
Damn you

>>283140860
It's hard to disagree with Takauji here when Tokiyuki gave up on his revenge to live a peaceful life fucking his wives for years and nothing bad happened.

>>283141049
>because we love our main character
Maybe he's thinking from the perspective where he is the main character? Takauji wouldn't think of himself as the main villain.

>>283141247
He has only rewritten history into the history we know IRL.

Thanks for dumping the chapter. Such a good one this week.

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>>283141059
Shogun-sama

I am kneeling to you and to the god Matusi

>>283141768
We've seen fourth wall breakers get destroyed before in the same magazine sorry

>>283140860
don't talk to me you son of a bitch

GET ME OUT OF THIS WACKASS SHONEN MAGAZINE AIIEEEEEE

>>283140860
Is this Matsui trying to blame the readers for not liking Tokiyuki enough or what? I don't think anyone said Tokiyuki shouldn't have "rebelled".

>>283141768
Is this the ending we are heading towards

>>283140668
Oh good I was worried Matsui forgot about him.

>>283141924
I'm pretty sure you are supposed to disagree with Takauji in some parts

>>283141106
Reality bending feat.

>>283141850
How many of them were able to rewrite not the in-story universe, but the plot itself?

>>283140904
It's funny because this exactly what the Hojo expected people to do after they did this shit to them, but we're supposed to like the Hojo and be mad that anyone rebelled against them.

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>>283140904
I don't understand the question. Sounds like this god is just coping really hard.

>>283141245
Hmm but if you remember the runner has always been the winner in these

>>283141981
But according to >>283140941 the readers do think that and only think they personally wouldn't have? This does read like Matsui breaking the fourth wall to argue with readers but this argument makes no sense.

>>283141245
BIRDBROS, IT'S HAPPENING

>>283141245
Damn, it looks like it's headed to ending soon.

>>283142138
I mean no shit its only been mentioned this was the final battle like four times already

>>283140722
>Hey I'm curious is this series following like canon history to a point?
So far yes, but the plot was written so that Tokiyuki and Takauji had more behind-the-scenes influence on what was written in our history books.

>>283141768
The funny thing I can’t make a “Clearly the guy I made is the greatest Jump villain” joke or else I’m falling for Takauji’s trap of not seeing them as people

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>>283141492
Yeah, they're not traditional spreads like the final page of this chapter but they flow really well like this.

>>283140980
>>283141620
I didn't really "think" about about ancient people as "humans" until I read about the Pompeii graffiti when I was about 16~ish. That made me aware of just how alike we are. Sure, some things vary from region to region and time to time, but on the whole we are almost the same.

>>283140980
>the people of history aren't even human
Ancient people, sure. Fictional ancient people, I have to put some effort into it.

>>283142105
Maybe he thought it was a rhetorical question when it clearly wasn't
Or Demon-kun is coping really hard

>>283141049
Yeah it reads like he's specifically arguing with readers that don't think that or being mad at history fans who like Takauji or something.
>>283141224
The thing is, Tokiyuki does get some sympathy but he's a small footnote because he factually didn't accomplish much so no one argues that everything would have been fine if Tokiyuki didn't rebel. People who know history know Tokiyuki wasn't the main problem Takauji had, other than the first Kamakura capture he was irrelevant and he was just a kid for that one so it wasn't really him doing it, no, Matsui, little kid Tokiyuki wasn't genuinely leading armies and flying around the battlefield killing people.

And by the time he was an adult he had just one small group in the Southern Court with people like Nitta and Akiie and the Kusunokis being actually in charge, basically this entire argument is ridiculous because it only exists in TESworld where everything revolves around Tokiyuki but TES fans mostly support Tokiyuki whereas book history fans don't give any weight to the fanon depiction of these characters so no one is arguing any of this. I dont' get it.

>>283140722
It doesn't really, it's sort of the canon timeline but what actually happened changed so much that it may as well change the ending too.

>>283142626
>no, Matsui, little kid Tokiyuki wasn't genuinely leading armies and flying around the battlefield killing people.
bullshit

I wonder how the anime will adapt this in 10 years

>>283142710
I feel like S2 will just end midway the way S1 did and we won't get anymore seasons

>>283142710
They pause the anime as this scene is happening and it cuts to live action Takauji (still voiced by the same seiyuu)

>>283142710
I kind of doubt it will get that far.

>>283140980
This is a funny point to make when one of the manga's main points is rejecting the taiga version reimagining of Takauji as a complex human being in favor of another villain carricature.

>>283142014
Technically Tokiyuki agreed that the hojo sucked but he's the Good Hojo so everything should be okay

>>283142034
same, i don't understand who is arguing what

>>283142014
>but we're supposed to like the Hojo
Not really

>>283140980
That's literally what you made akiie's underlings. And then made akiie proudly call them nothing but animals

>>283143044
I think we are, there's some lip service to them doing bad things sometimes but we're supposed to cheer and clap whenever Tokiyuki brags about being the Hojo heir. I remember one where he mocked Doyo because he and everyone would have had to grovel to Tokiyuki's dad.

>>283143076
Yeah this whole rant feels really fucking weird with how he's treated a lot of background characters and antagonists.

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>>283141492
I'm not really feeling this weird 4th wall breaking lecture, gives me Red Hood vibes kinda
who is he arguing with even?

>>283143257
>who is he arguing with even?
Evil God-kun is arguing with Tokiyuki, and (You) kinda

>>283143568
But no one argued any of that

>>283143692
He's also a massive liar

I don’t understand what strawman Matsui is even arguing with here.

holy shit

>>283144095
my best guess is the history fans who like takauji and don't like tokiyuki as the mc, except that makes no sense as none of those people argue that either real or fictional tokiyuki shouldn't have rebelled
so maybe the point is to shift the dislike of tes mc tokiyuki into something that would look bad like hating real tokiyuki for doing something perfectly understandable, except literally no one does that and the history fans don't buy the idea that takauji cared about tokiyuki at all at this point in time
even if you pretend tokiyuki personally did the nakasendai war and the only reason takauji ever turned on godaigo was muh tokiyuki then those heckin evil takauji fanboys and rekijo fujo yumes or whatever matsui is whining about all fucking love that tokiyuki rebelled since that's what made takauji shogun and it worked out for him fine irl
so i don't fucking know

>>283140668
I love this pin eyed bustard like you wouldn't believe.

>>283141059
Don't wanna.

>>283140860
Takauji, you were causing the Black Death...

>>283144702
I love you anon, saved forever

>>283140875
The entire Hoshina army was great.

>>283141245
Haha, it is now I, the Protagonist, who is "IT"¡

>>283141283
Really glad I'm not the only one to have thought of Loveable Furry Old Grover.

>>283141059
Yes, my lord

>>283141366
>Deadpool
Seems more something Grant Morrison or DC during the Silver Age would release than Deadpool.

>>283144702
10/10

>>283142014
The first villain in the story was a Hojo

>>283144702
Now this is art.

Reminder that Demon God is COPING at (You)
>page turn reminder keep getting more forceful
>(You) can't actually respond to to it, it's just assuming what you're saying or how (You) feel
>ends with Tokiyuki not understanding what the hell it/Takauji is saying or who it/Takauji was talking to and Shizuku literally saying it's confused

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>>283141059
I agree with this man. Takauji should LIVE!

>>283143044
The story starts by presenting the Hojo as incompetent and easily manipulated rulers, but not evil. Then Takauji comes along and murders all of them in cold blood to gain power. Clearly Takauji is in the wrong.

Takauji was barely 20 years old when he became shogun and defeated a regimee and years later btfo samurai and the emperor.
Is as believeable than little Hojo being a succesful rebel.

>>283145730
Kojiro is a rape baby and the Hojo let it happen without punishment.

>>283145552
ok but what is the point being made

>>283145778
He was 33 though.

>>283145813
That Demon God is coping for being wrong about humanity

>>283141245
KINOOOOO

>>283144702
Absolute perfection.

>>283143257
>>283144095
I don't think you're supposed to take it too much to heart. Takauji/the god is grandstanding and mostly saying this as self-justification for his own actions. It all leads up to "you're too dumb to really understand history anyway, so I should be allowed to take over the world."

>>283146103
The whole thing with history repeating itself feels like it's trying to make some point. If he's meant to be wrong what is he even supposed to be wrong about? If this got axed early I would have assumed this was a spite ending.

>>283146296
This IS a spite ending, because no one really cares about it much and every time he tries to do history stuff it polls like shit.

>>283146296
>If he's meant to be wrong what is he even supposed to be wrong about?
That humanity will never learn or that gods should be the ones to guide history.

>>283140904
I turned the page. But not because I like you or anything, b-baka shogun!

>>283146383
But the history fans also hated how he was handling the history parts and the Takauji evil clown thing.

>>283145813
It's your fault that things ended like this because (You) rooted for a trap shota and not for me.

>>283145813
There's no point being made. For all we know, it may have been something that Matsui and his historians were talking about one day, and he thought it would fit what the "God playing the role of the bad guy" would say.After all, any series needs an antagonist, and the godly force possessing Takauji is ours, not Takauji, the real person.
I guess you could argue that all god-like beings are the antagonists, including Tokiyuki's bird (and maybe even the author), and that's the point being made? Without them, Tokiyuki would've been the footnote in history that we know him as, instead of a person rallying thousands of lives to their early death, and Takauji wouldn't indirectly be responsible for the Black Death.

>>283146660
but he's literally complaining about people not rooting for Tokiyuki or caring about him enough, that's why it makes no sense

>>283146538
>you, reader, are bad for saying Tokiyuki shouldn't rebel
>but no one said that
>shut up, you thinking Tokiyuki shouldn't rebel is proof that you don't think historical people are human
>but again I didn't say that and in fact complained about poor treatment of historical characters and how the manga is too focused on dumb humor instead
>shut up, you thinking historical people are not human is why you can't learn from history and that's why history repeats itself, you bad person, you, it's all your fault
>the fuck
>actually none of this matters because it was the evil god saying it, I just spent the chapter on this for no reason

>>283146604
Yeah, but those don't vote for jump, those post online.

>>283146926
Now erase all of your replies and realize that Evil God is coping.

>>283146962
The more obvious reason is that there just weren't enough of them or that they were driven away by the silliness early on. If Matsui really wanted a history manga audience he should have written a real historical manga. If he wanted to pander to shota, harem and gag manga fans he doesn't get to complain that that's what most of his audience is.

>>283147060
coping about what?

>>283147170
About losing.

>>283147248
he thinks he's losing because the evil readers are on his side? because that's what he's whining about

>>283147130
I always felt matsui shot himself in the foot writing TES how he did it.
If he had been a tad more serious he could have made something really interesting instead of a fanfic he's now throwing a shitfit about.

>>283146296
I do think there's a point there, but if you think about it, it also undermines the very concept of this manga. Matsui set out to spin history into a somewhat irreverent battle manga, and to criticize the reader for not taking history seriously enough, he's also poking fun at himself. The villain is basically saying that the premise of the manga itself is wrong, so it's just one more reason why he needs to be taken down.

>>283147314
>because that's what he's whining about
He's whining about Tokiyuki.

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>>283141059
Seeing this right after finally finishing Billy Bat makes me feel like there were some wasted opportunities. All of his previous history eating was great, this is just silly, but still very fun.

>>283147442
he's whining that the readers don't think tokiyuki should have rebelled because they don't think he's as human as them and that's why history blah blah

>>283147346
Yeah frankly he should have written about an OC having cool and funny adventures with some horror elements in a vaguely historical setting if he really wanted that. Making it the super secret history of how random historical footnote saved the world and the guy who won historically was dumb and wrong and only won sometimes because he cheated with evil magic also my self insert, sorry, totally historical character fucked all the women but still looks like a cute shota tee hee is something that was always going to annoy everybody.

>>283147626
He's whining that
>he's getting beaten by a "nobody"
Then he turns to the reader (who cannot respond) and continues
>none of this would have happened if Tokiyuki accepted his losses and never rebelled
>humanity will never learn from their mistake
>gods should be the ones to drive history
He's basically trying to justify himself to a brick wall.

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>>283145552
I think the whole bit with turning the page is him """asserting his authority""", like the king from the little prince but incredibly desperate.

>>283146660
But I never root for MCs

>>283147775
but he assumes the reader agrees with him on tokiyuki, that's why this whole line of argument makes zero bloody sense

>>283147900
>but he assumes the reader agrees with him on tokiyuki
He's filling in the blanks for himself.

>>283147988
anon it makes no sense to fill in the blanks with the idea that the reader is completely on his side but also the reader is wrong in not having enough empathy for Tokiyuki and that's why humanity is bad
besides Tokiyuki is not a nobody in the manga itself, he is respected and loved and treated as a great leader by most characters, he is a nobody in real life history which is why this feels like a meta rant and not something in character

>>283148163
>anon it makes no sense to fill in the blanks with the idea that the reader is completely on his side but also the reader is wrong in not having enough empathy for Tokiyuki and that's why humanity is bad
Well, he's also losing his mind currently

>>283140668
Our hero return

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>>283141059
>silly demon god making it hard to adapt into anime

>>283140860
YES YOU ARE RIGHT
THE ONLY GOOD HOJO IS A DEAD HOJO
FUCK THE HOJO
IN THE IMMORTAL WORDS OF NITTA YOSHISADA:
HOJO WA HEISHI
WARERA GENJI
>>283141245
Go Sagamijro! Do what Koshiro couldn't do and finally wipe out the Minamoto.

>>283141245
Keep the gag going and start riding behind panels and shooting through them.

>>283148986
Just make Demon God pause the anime mid-episode and then he starts ranting

>>283143257
Wasn't the Red Hood author an assistant of Matsui?

>>283149298
He was an assistant when Red Hood ended all the way until Otr started

>>283149351
>that Otr manga is by the Red Hood guy
Oh shit, wonder how that one's doing.

>>283149401
I kinda stopped reading after a while, so no clue

>>283145552
>Takauji is so mentally ill that he's now blaming his loss on the readers
Even if I'm slightly confused by his unhinged rambling, I love it.

I think it's just Matsui commenting on nip culture and society again

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>>283140860
Right when I think elusive samurai has become stale, matsui pulls me back in...

>>283141245
That's my cool sex-having hero.

>>283150336
Well I like it and I missed it greatly
Probably why I'm so happy with this chapter

>>283150336
Would current WSJ be alright with that kind of shit? Wouldn't they be scared that it would alienate readers? They're bleeding enough numbers as it is
Sure, Matsui has some leverage because he's a veteran, and hell, his second series did so well, they decided to air it again and even animate what they skipped in the past, but still.

Kino chapter

>>283150965
>Would current WSJ be alright with that kind of shit?
One Piece has been shitting on the government from the start. I don't think they care THAT much, but Champion seems to do crazier stuff.

*clears throat*
Ahem. SEX with Tokiyuki.

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>>283141059
Yeah, Matsui nailed this monologue and the whole fight. Manga meta masterclass.

Click on this tab and get your ass back in here

Okay, assuming the anime lasts long enough, how the fuck would you turn this bit into animation?

>>283151597
I would say fake eyecatch like they're going to commercials but it goes into the unhinged rant but S1 didn't have eyecatches.

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>>283147673
both funny and sad how hard it is for some people to read matsui manga

I'm sorry guys but I love this chapter too much to get mad

>>283151115
Eh, that's a weird one because it shows that both the government dogs and the pirates have good and bad, and how some governments aren't bad, but rather, fucked over by tyrants, and the upper caste (world government). And the latter doesn't really feel like any regular government/society, but more of a shadow government/backwards society, like the street shitters and sandniggers.

>read chapter
>"lol we've had arguments about this here"
>read replies
>"who is he arguing against?!"
(You)
There have been a couple people in these very threads insisting that Takauji was a perfect saint who literally, unironically did nothing wrong and was always 100% justified in his actions. This is an implicit assertion that those who opposed him were wrong and/or stupid and that their resistance was not justified. And it goes beyond implications.
There have been people in these threads who have said at various points that Tokiyuki should have just submitted or given up and gone off the grid. And there have even been some who have mocked him for persevering in a struggle that was ultimately futile. This is the exact thing Takauji is talking about. And this way of thinking is likely more common in Japan where more people know of these figures and submission to the status quo is more ingrained in the culture.
And this isn't just a Takauji/Tokiyuki thing. This is how "history fans" treat history in general. It's nothing more than hindsight aided worship of genius gigachads stomping on worthless losers that should have known their place. And anything they did that their fans would have found intolerable if they had been subjected to it themselves is handwaved with historical moral relativism. All of this is precisely what leads to right side/wrong side of history thinking.
This entire manga has been a critique of how we think about great men of history. Not in the normal marxist way of saying they actually didn't matter at all and that it was all just the inevitabilities of economics, technology, demographics, etc. But rather that those who survived to shape history were the victors in struggles between many great men, that victory in these struggles was not always the result of merit, and that being a great man of history has little to no relation with being a great man in a moral sense.

>>283141059
nah imma vertical scroll

>>283152015
That's pretty much all I've got from WSJ, then.
>>283152388
Well put. For a long time I wondered what this story would be "about" but I really feel like I get it now. Obviously these takes are going to be really subjective to people going in and expecting a straightforward historical series, but I read this manga to begin with for the Matsui spin on things. Which is probably why I'm not that mad at the portrayals.

>>283151597
They'd have to figure out something well before this part. Takauji has been messing with pages for a while. My guess would be that they change it to him messing with the animations.

I initially picked this series up because other anons made it out to be some kind of gay shota story due to the extremely feminine-looking male lead. I stuck with it because I enjoyed the story and characters, but I still feel vaguely disappointed. What was the point of depicting Tokiyuki as a boy so feminine he could be called a trap?

>>283152925
It's either Matsui Tokiyuki or pic related.

>>283153092
I'm not complaining, mind you.

>>283152925
>What was the point of depicting Tokiyuki as a boy so feminine he could be called a trap?
Matsui likes traps and so do I.

>>283151597
>the anime reaches the scene where the demon Takauji turns his head back
>suddenly, the scene pauses with the [II] symbol and everything
>the camera zooms out to show that the episode is being played on a real TV
>a man in a suit dressed as Takauji begins to give his monologue as if it were all part of a show
>he walks around the room while speaking directly to the audience, looking and gesturing at the camera
>the images used as examples in the manga are digitally added to the scene like in weather reports or replaced with real pictures and models
>unlike in the manga, the audience “answers” Takauji by moving the camera from side to sides like a yes/no gesture
>the actor becomes more furious each time they respond
>the transmission becomes increasingly unstable, full of noise and with glitches that make the actor look monstrous at frames
>the scene ends with the angered actor getting close to the camera and saying the final lines until the interference cuts off the transmission
>the anime returns to normal with Tokiyuki and Shizuku wondering what the hell just happened and a joke about the TV industry
Alternatively parody the Max Headroom incident with the transmission being hijacked by a man with a Takauji mask saying the monologue and suddenly returning to the anime when the monologue ends.

>>283153478
Finally somebody who noticed similarities between both frames

>>283154178
>well, i shall set you free
>press play, and the animation of human history will end...
>and the animation of a god's history shall begin
>I command it.
>Press pla-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwortdC_o14

>>283141143
HE RAN

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Is Matsui hearing voices in his fucking head? I don't think anyone is reading Elusive Samurai for historical accuracy.

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Did Tokiyuki actually interrupt him here, or is that Takauji using his reality-bending powers to usurp Tokiyuki's position as protagonist?
Now he's the one using elusiveness and being chased in the Nanbokucho game of tag.
And of course we know Takauji wins out in the end, so...

>>283154708
I mean who knows? This is a what if so maybe Tokiyuki wins in the manga.

>>283154708
The corners of the pages were bent before Tokiyuki popped out, I assume Takauji was interrupted.

>>283154938
The corners are bent because he asked the reader to turn the page, like in the previous spreads

>>283154607
Are you sure? Have you been reading since this came out? Because anyone that has can tell you that there's been plenty of people complaining, even if there were plenty of times when they're right; yet, just as you said, this isn't something that should (necessarily) be enjoyed for its accuracy.
And that's just us. Imagine how it is for the actual japs on social media/their anonymous boards.

>>283141850
Medaka Box mentioned!

>>283154962
I thought he wanted the pages to turn so he could continue his rant, it's why Takauji was surprised when Tokiyuki slashed him.

>>283154708
This makes a lot of sense. The only thing that makes me think this isn't the case is the fact that Tokiyuki came from the previous page, which lends towards Takauji being interrupted. But Tokiyuki getting a nanboku-cho tag spread 5 pages after Takauji said the pages of a god's (his) history would begin is highly suspicious.

>>283152388
>And this isn't just a Takauji/Tokiyuki thing. This is how "history fans" treat history in general.
Wow you are so smart and intelligent, you are so much smarter than everyone anon. History really can all just be summarized as the elite succeeding over the downtrodden.

What a perfect summation of every single historical account. You should honestly write a book, I think the whole world needs to hear this message.

>>283155464
Say it again with less assmad

>>283155464
This has so little to do with what I said that I'm inclined to believe it is a bot post.

>>283155277
Right. I mean, I think Tokiyuki did unexpectedly interrupt his monologue perhaps, but that wasn't enough to dispell what Takauji was doing maybe

Good news everyone
https://www.aniplex.co.jp/jumfes/
The wait is almost over

>>283140860
He is right, he is ascending through his wisdom.

>>283140980
Alright I'm turning it don't rush me!

>>283156704
>don't rush me!
>he says replying to a 10 hours old post
anon, it's too late...

I never read the end of the dark tower because stephen king told me not to and I'm not turning the page

>>283157259
Turn. The. Page.

>>283157259
TURN IT MOTHERFUCKER
You WILL complete it like the rest of us.

>>283157259
You didn't miss much. Everything after he inserted himself into the story was gay and lame.

>>283157355
Patiently waiting for the artist's take on this chapter with FemTakauji

>>283157259
based

>>283157573
This is extremely in character for them. The modern AU writes itself.

>>283150809
I still like Neuro the most out of his 3 works because of the stupid jokes like these

If Takauji was so all knowing, then how did he not know I was reading the chapter in a mongolian basket weaving forum and there was no page to turn?

>>283158753
Takauji agrees with this anon >>283141337 and doesn't want to condone reading manga improperly by acknowledging it as a possibility.

>>283152388
except that's a strawman as no one actually said any of this

how will tokiyuki even job here

>>283160353
will he even?

>>283160353
>misses

Why are there zero doujins on sadpanda? No, the hundred or so yaoi ones don't count.

>>283160675
Fujo manga.

I am only reading this for the bussy. got no idea what is going on story wise.

>>283161221
Your bussy has 3 wives and 300 concubines.

>>283147352
When dealing with a period where very little is known was the wrong move I guess. He'd be making up some 70% or more to fill for time between known events. And even those events are quickfire summary.

"Historical fiction" is always pretty fucked unless you go full documentary, but then half of what you say is: "there's a few documents from multiple sources that say this and this happened (some level of corroboration), then silence for a decade, oh and this individual is now dead".

>>283162312
He chose to ignore or rush through the majority of known important events and only added a few original ones. It's like he wrote a history manga while hating that he was writing a history manga.

>>283150965
Modulo has been touching the refugee crisis

>>283141116
Bro? Do you not follow what they get up to in Ukraine?

>>283162300
That doesn't make him less cute. Also, he has no concubines because everyone but his wives think he's weird.

>>283157424
Wasn't what I was expecting but
https://twitter.com/takatakaDie/status/1980226032251899979

>>283140860
m-me?

>>283141245
holy shit

>>283165032
I'll take it

>>283144702
Based

>next Matsui manga probably won't start until at least 2030
Pain. Although that probably answers whether or not he'll bother with WSJ again. It's already in a bad state, and it looks like it's only going to get worse.

>>283165831
I'll keep dreaming of Matsui joining Jump SQ or Ultra Jump. Weekly format seems to be draining.

>>283165941
I wasn't originally in the "Matsui wants to do seinen" camp. But recent chapters have made me join it. And I really want to see that. If this is what he does in a shounen manga, then what would he do with even less restraint?

>>283141059
>>283145239
Yeah, it reminds me of Ultra Comics.

>>283169641
I'm still annoyed that the pokemon collab wasn't Ho-oh. It was the perfect choice.

>>283170217
The Pokemon collab as a whole was lazy except for the heavy hitters that Jump is already pushing.