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Oh, it's a pro-AI anime... ick

>>283149973 (OP)
>Pro-AI
People are literally going into comas because of AI in beatbreakers

>>283150061
No, Digimon.
The main character is framed as an asshurt bitch because he doesn't like AI telling him what to do and his e-pulse is glitchy.
I guarantee you it'll end with a message about trusting AI because it "wants to help you", or "there are good and bad AI just like people :)"

>>283150131
>loving AI because some algorithm told you to.

>>283149973 (OP)
Whoa, I needed to know your valuable opinion on the matter
The opinion is...You dislike the new thing? How bold of you...no one's EVER done that...have my upvotes. Please make a thread for every valuable insight and opinion you have on any new controversies.

>Main characters motivated entirely by money
>Main character seen as wrong for not wanting to be controlled by AI
>AI literally feeds off of your life source and this is just normal
this show is creepy

>>283150327
AI is not new and the AI in Digimon isn't the generative kind

>>283150327
>You're not allowed to dislike it if it's new.
hmmm I wonder which company you belong to which gets so aggressive about public opinion.

>>283150569
When did I say you aren't? I want to KNOW what YOUR opinion is. Elections come up? Please, make a post and tell us who you hate, who you like. It's very important that you post about it on /a/ - Anime and Opinions.

>>283150751
Sarcasm stops working when you turn it into your personality.

>>283149973 (OP)
No it's actually
Ai bad, but ai digimon is good.

>>283150751
Yeah god forbid we discuss the subject matter of an anime right? Better shut up like good cattle and accept every bit of propaganda, don't wanna be a WEIRDO OUTCAST who doesn't follow the herd.

>>283150821
I hope it does turn out to be like that. Digimon are sentient, living beings made of data. The other AI stuff in the show is very suspicious, constantly monitoring children and trying to control them.

>>283150412
It's a dystopia, Anon

>>283150091
>>283149973 (OP)
>The main character is framed as an asshurt bitch because he doesn't like AI telling him what to do and his e-pulse is glitchy.
But he's right. That's the thing: He isn't being a bitch. He's objectively right that he shouldn't be trusting these things or the city that's been built with it. It's all nefarious and it's resulting in people being exiled because they aren't compatible with it or have objections to its usage.

This is 1:1 what is happening with AI and social media right now. The show is saying he's right and this kind of treatment for people who don't want to participate in social media is heinous. Not that he's a bitch for dissenting.
The world in this case is wrong. Sapotamas are a bad thing.

>>283149973 (OP)
My problem is with it using they/them for gekkomon. They made my boy mentally ill

>>283150327
>>283150131
>>283150751
/a/ will bitch about shit getting worse while cheering the oppressive companies that are being used to make shit worse. Pathetic contrarians.

digimon are ai

>>283150327
>The opinion is...You dislike the new thing?
"new thing" is a giant waste of money and energy that's being used to break every copyright law in existence, monitor every human who has ever lived, and saddles governments, and populations with massive bills to fund its electrical, water, and land consumption which are never paid for by their creators but instead come straight out of the taxpayers because they're simply allowed to rule the government for free.

Just like Sapotamas.
Really, Digimon has nailed this season.

>>283149973 (OP)
>MC makes clear stance against Ai
>"hurr durr ITS PRO AI"
How much of a retard juice did you drink today OP?

>>283151218
Lots of things that don't seem like AI are actually AI just not the generative kind.

>>283151218
Digimon are digital creatures in contrast to us analog creatures. They aren't AI any more than you and I are meat AI.

>>283150131
Take your edgy contrarian takes back to twitter.

>>283150131
AI only makes money because it's stealing from every artistic endeavor in existence and reselling it. If you or I could resell any work of art just with the names and numbers filed off, we'd become trillionaires too. We'd also go to jail for a long, long time.

But Microsoft and Google does it billions of times a second and nobody thinks they deserve jail for what is objectively the same crime.

>>283151203
Those tourists do not represent the opinions of natives here.

>>283151458
>AI only makes money because it's stealing from every artistic endeavor in existence and reselling it.
IP/patent theft has been the cornerstone of industrialization and content creation for ages.

>>283151458
>caring about piracy on /a/
roflmfao

>>283151521
And the reason no country ever actually created an air tight system that would have at the minimum made AI companies pay up for the materials it was accessing was because many business models hinged off shitty paywalls and bloated payment models or that they too defied IP and patent law.

>>283151521
His post specifically refers to artistic content, nice try trying to redirect the argument at industrialization. Every time you post it really reveals how absolutely dishonest ai contrarians are.

>>283151563
Who are you quoting?

>>283151577
>His post specifically refers to artistic content
It also applies to artistic content too. It was super easy to rip off content back then or do unofficial translations. Not to mention the sheer amount of times authors and artists got fucked over in compensation or even recognition.

>>283150131
I dislike it because it's making everyone even more retarded than they already were.

>>283151720
Those unofficial translations barely affected the income of the jap artists, they were encouraged because the official localization companies are regarded as taking most of the profits and being a rip off. Fuck off newfag.

>>283151808
>Those unofficial translations barely affected the income of the jap artists
I wasn't constraining my point to just Japan. You do know this AI stuff expands beyond just Japan right?
>they were encouraged because the official localization companies are regarded as taking most of the profits and being a rip off.
Many back off if an official one does come out though. I feel like you left that part out

>>283151887
We're talking in a japanese context aren't we? Why are you trying to change the topic to some western thing no one here would know a lot about?
>Many back off if an official one does come out though.
Because they'd have less of an incentive to make a translation when there already is one. But that doesn't go for piracy, where /a/ encourages people not to even buy blu rays from western companies even if they're of a decent standard.

>>283151259
>monitor every human who has ever lived
AI didn't do that. All the surveillance regimes were in place prior to 2020.
t. worked in security

>>283151943
>Why are you trying to change the topic to some western thing no one here would know a lot about?
You do know this is an American imageboard and Japan is within the framework of "western" legally.
>Because they'd have less of an incentive to make a translation when there already is one.
Because someone can file something against them if a certain publisher wants to push for it. That and Japan has shown precedent with scanners and leakers that have been caught and fined.

>>283151218
Digimon are real creatures in a world made of data, which honestly isn't that different from flesh and blood humans which has been repeatedly pointed out across series. Time Stranger calls them Phase Electron Lifeforms. Basically another entity on a different plane of existence.

>>283152079
Yes, it is american. That doesn't mean everyone has to talk about what happens in america all the time even on the anime board.
>Because someone can file something against them if a certain publisher wants to push for it.
That's to defend the publisher not the artist. What's your point exactly?

>>283151991
If you were such a technology expert your definition of ai wouldn't be based on how normalfags use it.

>>283150131
Fictional AI was supposed to get rid of mindless, menial tasks and let us focus on research and creative endeavors. Present-day AI are being geared towards making creative works and critical thinking obsolete, allowing humans to only continue working at very low-level "generalist" wagie and factory jobs where it is cheaper to pay a guy than a specialised robot.

>>283149973 (OP)
Aren't digimon literally AI?

>>283152079
Japan is not western, it belongs to the taiwan singapore south korea group. Also associated with south east asian countries like the philippines and thailand and formerly hong kong. With the way the usa is going there might end up being a level of separation between marxist countries like canada and the uk and israel grovelers like america hungary and poland.

>>283152741
This is a big part of it. Slave labor appears to be the end goal while the world runs of half-functional, flawed AI that everyone will mindlessly consult and trust.

>>283152779
This is going to become the new "Digimon are genderless" misinformation campaign huh?

Pic related is a Child by the way.

>>283149973 (OP)
Remember when AI was cool?
Like in Star Trek or Iron Man when they'd talk to their computers and stuff would happen like they wanted

All we get in reality is some sloppily drawn pictures and hallucinations

>>283153069
>Digimon are genderless
Some of them are, some of them aren't.
Some of the ones that aren't by default can have a defined gender, but the ones that do have a gender are never gender neutral or the opposite gender.

Ones like Renamon, Angewomon, Ranamon, Babamon, are always Female.
Angemon, Any of the Royal Knights, Olegmon, Jijimon, always Male.

Hyemon for example seems like it could go either way.
And tossing in Evolution muddies the water even more.

>>283153328
So woke.

>>283152816
>With the way the usa is going there might end up being a level of separation between marxist countries like canada and the uk and israel grovelers like america hungary and poland.
lmao you are absolutely nuts.

>>283153328
>Renamon
>always Female
Nein

>>283153328
>Renamon
Renamon specifically said digimon don't have a gender.
>inb4 ruki's mom saying renamon is a girl
Same shit as niggers saying piccolo is black.

>>283152307
>That's to defend the publisher not the artist
Because artists also flag content too

>>283151521
Ask the soviet union: Stealing everything works great until you run out of stuff to steal. Then it all comes crashing down when you lack the ability to create anything of value.

Sapotamas in the show are a parallel to this phenomena. They are objectively adding nothing to people's lives, but have severe consequences for not letting them into it.

>>283153435
The Renamon in Survive was male.

>>283153476
still would

>>283153476
Are you just saying this, because it had a deep ass voice or did it actually go out of its way to say it is a man.

I'm excited to see if Eyebrows gets added to the cast, gets her own Digimon.

I hope it's not a Leomon.

>>283153463
>Ask the soviet union
They actually invented more things than the West did, and much of it was stolen from them by espionage. After the collapse, the West gorged itself on the Soviet surplus for 2+ decades, and some still do today.

>>283153711
>>283144944

>>283152741
Society is probably as anti-intellectual as it's ever been. AI has little to do with it.

>>283149973 (OP)
>show is obviously about how the "glitches" (both digimon and people) that dont fit in or go against the ai society deserve to exist
>op somehow thinks this means the show is about how ai is allways good
How retarded can you be anon? Like genuinely how can anyone watch the first three episodes of this and not already see the "actually ai and the governemnt is bad!" twist from a mile away???

>>283153880
AI is a big symptom of it. Nobody would have approved of machines that just stole everyone's creative efforts and gave them back with the serial numbers filed off before the current era of "Fuck you got mine". The artist and the intellectual is seen as less than worthless.

>>283153769
Ask China then!

>>283151164
People in this setting are also chipped which means their bodily autonomy is violated from a young age, he's gonna rip that shit out of his hand with a knife at some point and be like there, now I won't glitch everything anymore.
The end stage for him is to reject technology and become Uncle Ted.

>>283153151
>Like in Star Trek or Iron Man when they'd talk to their computers and stuff would happen like they wanted
All everyone wanted was cool robot butlers like this. Now they're desperately trying not to lose their jobs to them. Ironically the people trying to replace them all could very easily be replaced themselves.

>Real life is heading straight for BB's dystopia of mandatory AI "assistants" and microchips
>Except we wont even get digimon out of it.

>>283151421
Contrarian would be taking the /a/ route of bitching about new technology because it's new.

A completely independent, sentient AI should rule humanity.

>>283151259
>>283151458
>copyright laws!
>piracy!
Holy fuck this is like satire seeing this shit on 4chan.

>>283149973 (OP)
Arent digimon themselves AI???

>>283155596
You and I pirating something we weren't going to buy anyway is different from Microsoft stealing everything and putting their badge on it. It's the difference between pissing in the ocean and dumping raw sewage in it for many years.

>>283155611
Digimon are digital monsters, it's in the name. They're a counterpart to us analog humans. They're not anymore AI than we are. They live in digital information as a medium.

>>283155596
4chan isn't selling their cheap fan scanlations, that's the difference. we do it for free

>>283155413
Maybe if we believe really really hard things won't be so bad

>>283155596
Manga and anime piraters are entitled but approach it from a archivist mentality. AIshills are those that are too afraid of being shit at something to actually invest time in learning skills and rely on prompts to give them the illusion that they've done something worthwhile. Normalfags using AI are anti-intellectual retards who are unironically the fat lards from WALL-E who would opt for convenience at any cost. It's funny because Americans used to make fun of countries like China that would always make cheap, low quality knockoffs of popular things. We've been seeing cultural degradation for decades now but illiterarcy and anti-intellectualism is accelerating thanks to the political climate, Covid, and shit like TikTok.

>>283155876
This

>>283153880
It's frightening isn't it? In 13 short years this is what it came to.

>>283149973 (OP)
This might be the anime that finally reminds people that Digimon are spirits.

>>283157383
Kemonogamis

>>283152741
The "AI" itself can't do that, though. Only people encouraging AI can do so and guess who owns OpenAI hahaha

>>283157383
There have been a million anime by now telling people about electromagnetism, computer data and ghosts. I don't think anyone's gunna understand.

Appmon was pro AI.

>>283151218
I think it's an interesting theme to bring up in a Digimon anime considering the current times.
Beatbreak feels like a genuine "sci-fi" work to the bone, it's speculative science fiction in a way that mixes well with Digimon.

Anti-AI jap otakus are like this

>>283153328
>Digimon are gender fluid

>>283158056
>type the world male on the computer
>select it and type female instead
>your sentence is now transgender

>>283158107
And yet some people have a problem with that

>>283158176
Data on a computer isn't a biological species designed with male/female in mind. Typing something different on a computer isn't the same as a botched surgery or mentally deluding yourself that your stereotypes are who you really are.

>>283155742
>we do it for free
you sure do

>>283155115
China has more patents than anywhere else in the world

>>283149973 (OP)
??? How is this a "Pro AI" thing if they fucking live in a dystopia caused by AI? I'm totally against the gen AI bullshit, but I'm not that paranoid. Take your meds.

>>283155413
Digimons become real with enough psychiatrics.

>>283149973 (OP)
I'm enjoying VRAINS with a Digimon coat of paint

>>283155413
If they did offer augmented reality waifus and digimon, would your concerns about everything else dissipate?

>>283150131
The hell did Will Smith say about AI?
I don't get my opinions from celebrities
I hate AI because it's incompatible with the way I believe the world should work

>>283159349
I think he's talking about I, Robot but in that Will Smith turns out to be an AI Robot as well which makes his accusation even more ironic and stupid.

>>283151521
Are you sure that's an honest argument?

>>283153151
We just didn't think about it because it felt like fantasy that would never happen.

>>283152741
>where it is cheaper to pay a guy than a specialised robot.
Can you imagine the economic miracle it would take to have a complex product as a robot with thousands of parts to assemble and maintain being cheaper than a minimum wage laborer ?

>>283159291
I am feeling more 5D's from it. Glowing Dawn even lives in a slum area. And we have a bike chase next week.

>>283159549
I wonder when we're going to get the lowdown on the flood/destruction of the city. Which digimon was responsible do you think?

>>283159583
>flood the shithole area
>threaten to flood the rich if they don't feed him E-Pulse
is it time for croc to become a main villian?

>>283153328
>Royal knights are always male

>>283159426
It gets a whole lot easier when you don't feel the need to make it human shaped or mobile

>>283159371
Oh
That movie was really dumb
It almost had something in the same ballpark as a good take on AI, but then it went and threw it out for a budget terminator event with "some of the robots are good actually because they're just people like us" thrown in and completely spoiling the soup

>>283152262
The origin of digimon differs between continuities. In Tamers the first digimon and the digital world was created by humans before it began evolving by itself. The game Brave Tamers claims the digital world was first created as an accidental byproduct of the creation of the first computer. And its growth was tied to the expansion of the electronic communication networks on Earth. Regardless, every explanation of the origin of digimon involve humans in some way. Making them artificial, albeit, usually accidental.

>>283159549
I assume their currency is based on yen, 100k yen (around $600) is quite a lot for a low level bounty, I wonder why the group is dirt poor.

>>283155413
This will replace you.

>>283153069
>>283153328

>>283159371
>Will Smith turns out to be an AI Robot as well
Will Smith's character is human, he just has a robotic arm which is used to help highlight that he's not so different from the robot main character

>>283159549
I meant in terms of certain character design choices, revenge and family motivations, wacky hungry AI companion born from the main character's electrical pulse.

>>283153069
Crazy how as kids we all complertely understand the difference between sex and Gender because Renamon told us the distinction but then there are retards like this who can't comprehend such a concept because Renamon(who has been potrayed as male and female with now design alterations between the two) has been a porn idol

>>283159291
>>283161605
Cannot wait for Gekkomon to take a more humanoid form and have people draw them fucking

>>283159549
This is a really comfy home base.

>>283159549
Dohna Dohna for me

>>283158211
Hey, some animals can change their sex naturally, without any botched operations.

>>283149973 (OP)
Of course, Toei declared in its investor report that all series will be animated with AI

>>283159693
That's a corpse.

>>283159965
600$ absolutely cannot support 4 people

>>283150091
>No, Digimon.
Which are compared to being glitches (see: bad things) just like the main character is.
He's going to trust Digimon because they're just like him.

A tsundere? Isn't that a bit outdated?

>>283164563
If she actually becomes tsundere for Tomoro atleast it will be somewhat justified since he is a moody prick.

>>283155596
You cannot tell that he's a retarded /pol/tard from that picture? He's just trying to shit up the board.

>>283164563
Gotta present the classics to the new generation of kids.

>>283151458
It is fundamentally untrue that it steals anything, every work is new and copyright only pertains to finished products and it is incorrect to be applying it to databases in the first place. When you create any work, you use your imagination and your imagination is nothing but a collection of copyrighted work held in your brain of which you reshuffle and piece together into something new. AI literally does the same thing your brain does and people freaking out over it are idiots who are insecure and dislikes others being able to create something they want because it isn't through them.

That femboi's bat digimon partner sure is cute though.

>>283152741
>Fictional AI was supposed to get rid of mindless, menial tasks and let us focus on research and creative endeavors. P
That was never going to happen,it doesn't even happen in fiction

>>283153991
They would anon,just like they accepted many other extremely invasive things,there are things much worse that people already accept AI is just a minor thing

>>283165444
Will it become a femboy Devimon I wonder.

>>283152741
>Fictional AI was supposed to get rid of mindless, menial tasks
Mechanization of manual labour has been happening since the fucking industrial revolution, and it sucked for a lot of people who used to do this work. You shouldnt be surprised that when it happens to different people for once, a lot of people dont give a shit.

>>283160039
Is it gay if I want him to do that to me

I support AI only because it makes art troons seethe.

We need bad ai for enemies
Where are the eaters?

>>283153880
What does it truly mean to be an intellectual?

>>283150091
>I guarantee you it'll end with a message about trusting AI because it "wants to help you",
Anon, did you not see the OP? I highly doubt that.

>>283157672
2017 waa a very different time

I am honestly not sure everything points to me that the whole getting chipped at birth and sapotama and its AI dictating everyones life is dystopic as fuck.
However the fact that digimons are born from it completely throws a wrench into that train of thought

>>283161968
You will never be a real woman.

>>283166066
Most Digimon born from the sapotamas just send the first people they see into a coma by draining their e-pulse, and those who don't and partner with the human instead have the option of either becoming wanted criminals with a bounty on their heads or work for the government as bounty hunters
It's also quite dystopian

>>283165708
this show is all about evil humans and digimon

>>283153151
Don't forget ChatGTP doing kids's homework and encouraging their suicide.

>>283153151
That's because we don't have AI we have large language models, that is to say a big magic 8 ball that uses up all the water and electricity.

>>283151259
>Muh electricity and water bills
Lmao, I'm using local, like hundreds of others and I'm the only one footing the bill. And its a small af electricity bill, less than 10$ for generating like 10k pics. You know nothing about this tech.

>>283153711
murasamemon is the shambala leomon. if she gets a partner it is gonna be another one

AI is going to be a worthwhile investment and you will regret not getting into it sooner.

>>283168452
>This boy fills me with pride.

>>283166066
The world government is covering up the fact that their smartphone eggs can turn into dangerous monsters. So it fits the dystopia vibe.

>>283164563
no

>>283164563
One of the best tropes can never be outdated

>>283166097
And neither will It be any Digimon

I think AI criticism is retarded because its all capitalism critique in disguise
>muh resources
>muh copyright
>muh soul
literally none of this shit matters if its not a multi-billion dollar company doing it

New Digimon manga soon.
https://x.com/JP_Excelsior/status/1980338158106792255

>>283155571
Nope. Contrarian means taking a position against the common opinion simply for the purpose of being different. Read a dictionary. This board doesn't like ai because it's ruining the humanity in art and producing lower effort and lower quality entertainment. Being supportive of ai has become the minority opinion, so you're most likely the contrarian.

>>283153421
How so? If you've read anything about canada and uk it's pretty clear that their general politics have taken a turn to radical leftist ideas in all parties, those countries are generally hesitant to show public support for israel and sometimes criticize it. This is different to the other three which outright defend every action israel does and regard it as their close ally.

>>283171343
actually braindead

>>283172315
>radical leftist ideas in all parties,
>Canada
If this were true, we might have an actual robust inter-city rail system and the postal service wouldn't be on strike all the time

>>283149973 (OP)
>Duuuuude technological advancement is le bad!
>Duuuuude capitalism is le bad!

Beatbreak is such a slop show. More retarded fear mongering over AI. AI is not going to take over the world.

>>283172960
Tolerating the unions striking all the time is a common instance of useless leftist governance. marxism doesn't have to require aspects of real socialism.

>>283173038
Thank you for your input, ChatGPT.

>>283173038
Of course it won't, it's merely another tool for jewish tyrants

>>283161605
Crazy how these things go. The plot in Ghost Game was also super similar to Yugioh Arc-V with the whole "MC's dad vanished into a different world years ago and there's something horrible going on over there and also sometimes the MC('s digimon) has this alter ego/berserk mode that appears when shit hits the fan and they start slaughtering shit."
Not that the story ended up going anywhere in Ghost Game though.

>>283173303
Story in arc-V really didn't go anywhere either so it pans out.

>>283173303
It did go somewhere
It just crammed 30 episodes worth of plot into 3 and ended with sequelbait

>>283173038
It's a cyberpunk-themed show which happens to be kinda topical because of the rise of AI.

>>283157672
>>283165956
The main villain in appmon was leviathan. It was anti tyrannical superstate world control AI. Very basic antichrist and messiah stuff. Just look up basic descriptions and art of leviathan by Thomas Hobbes.

Digimon yelling their attack names gives a feeling of
>Oh yeah, I'm home

>>283174783
We only need a shinka sequence with an insert song and we would be so back.

>>283171343
Interestingly, I doubt this show is going to take a Luddite stance toward technology and the aesthetic of a cyberpunk dichotomy between the sprawl and the city make it fairly likely that this could swing to being a very directly anti-capitalist, anti-fascist narrative with the government and companies running the eggtopia being critiqued more so than AI and integration lifestyle technologies

>>283173112
>just beat the strikers until they work
Standard right wing bloodthirst

>>283175231
The luddites weren't even against new technology they just wanted compensation for becoming redundant. Stop using that propaganda term.

>>283175320
Who are you quoting?

>>283175363
If you want that term to exit usage, you will have to come up with a replacement that conveys the same meaning (yes, the propagandized meaning) and make it more popular in common use. Until then everyone is going to keep using it.

>>283175441
Or maybe the ai advocates could speak reasonably and honestly instead of using insults and referring to historic events. But it seems like decency is out of the question for them.

>>283175532
Referring to luddites this way is older than AI drama and older than you lol
What a deranged idiot you are

>>283175573
Yes that is true, why are you bringing it up?

>>283175405
Did devimon and the dark masters and the like turn back into an egg or did the adventure kids just straight up delete them forever.
I know machindramon's ghost went on to become milly.

>>283175643
Because you got triggered by a standard English expression and tried to language police me. Based on the way you immediately jumped to talking about “AI advocates” I have to assume you’re a mentally ill loser who spends a disgusting amount of time arguing uselessly about AI on social media.

>>283175708
Yes, every Digimon gets turned back into eggs and gets reborn in Adventure.
Eventually they'll be partnered with a human then die a true death when their human partner passes away.

>>283175740
You got language policed for being dishonest. People being dishonest decades before you doesn't make your dishonesty okay now.
>you’re a mentally ill loser who spends a disgusting amount of time arguing uselessly
Nice projection faggot

>>283175950
But I wasn’t dishonest. I used Luddite to refer to a potential for a total/violent rejection of technology and AI in particular as the show’s message, which cannot be dishonest because that’s how everyone uses the term Luddite. I wasn’t even talking about the pro/anti AI drama on social media that you clearly let rot your brain. How many hours a day do you have to spend wasting words with other mentally ill losers to get triggered by the term Luddite and start launching into your memorized talking points?

>>283149973 (OP)
Digimon are a literal form of artificial intelligence though??

>>283176643
Lots of projection here. It's probably you who's obsessed with this. Just stop using historic words wrongly okay it doesn't matter if someone else did it too.

>>283174292
A bunch of Gammamon lore including the whole GRB concept was mandated by execs halfway through for brand synergy, forcing them to do last-minute rewrites. It's clear that the original plot was going to be the Gamammon and Gulus personalities merging to unlock Siriusmon.

>>283177633
Blackagumon showing up and foreshadowing the grb concept showed up very early into the show though.

>>283177737
Again, GRB did not exist as a concept when BlackAgumon showed up, meaning the original plan for BlackAgumon had nothing to do with GRB.
Note also that there was an episode focused on black subspecies Digimon having particularly destructive powers which made them appear evil, which ended up having nothing to do with the rushed GRB observer explanation we got in the last episode.

>>283177564
Of course it matters if other people use it that way, the purpose of language is to communicate ideas rather than to be “correct.” I use Luddite in the standard way that everyone does because no one cares about its historical context, but for some reason that triggers you and you have these weird talking points stored away in case you ever see someone say Luddite. You’re a mentally ill loser who argues about AI on reddit all day every day, you seethe about the term Luddite because it’s part of the drama meta there.

>>283177870
>grb did not exist when this was made
>grb turns digimon black
>black digimon shows up at the end of gulusgammamon debut episode the source of grb
>anon says this has nothing to do with grb and that it was just a coincidence
Just, because we didn't know it existed at the time doesn't mean the production didn't know.

>>283152741
I'm an artist and I love creating sovlfvl art, but I would never ever do it if I'm not getting money or online attention from it :(

>>283177352
They aren't artificial thoughever, except for those that are

>>283178109
No, that's what I'm saying. The production didn't know. It's confirmed that execs showed up halfway through and told them to make a bunch of changes, because they wanted to introduce things like GRB. The director of Ghost Game said the project was a mess which left him as a nervous wreck.

These kinds of mid-series rewrites aren't even uncommon in anime, e.g. Gundam SEED had Dearka switch sides and join the heroes because execs poked their heads in and said his model kit wasn't selling well enough.
Heck, Kamen Rider generally only plans the first half of a series first, and then writes the second based on what elements were well-received.

>>283178364
>confirmed that execs showed up halfway through and told them to make a bunch of changes
Can I get a source on that?

>>283178468
https://x.com/cozy_ashfilm/status/1640353058373931008
The GRB lore was introduced by Regulusmon's Digimon Reference Book entry. The GG staff have confirmed that they had no access to the Digimon Reference Book, which was written by a separate team, and that in the initial material they had to work with Gulus was a dead-end evolution rather than a full line.
In fact Gulus in the Vital Bracelet was originally a more conventional Dark Evolution that was inferior to Gammamon's true Adult stages, and that's what the Ghost Game writers were working with. It was only *after* they reinterpreted him as something bigger that the Reference Book writers decided to follow suit and came up with a full line + the GRB concept to flesh him out.

>>283178918
When donthey say this in the stream?

>>283178364
>mid-series rewrites
IIRC Digimon Tamers was originally supposed to end with the heroes fighting Beelzebumon. The entire final arc + Beelzebumon's redemption was only invented midway through.

>>283179398
So it was a good rewrites, I love the Cthulhu abominable that was the D-Reaper.

>>283152741
>Present-day AI are being geared towards making creative works and critical thinking obsolete
as of it was any different before
western animation and anime have gone down the shitter long before AI. Same for writing, same for education. For varying reasons.
The same retard asking Chatgpt for answers was just googling shit before. Guess what? its functionally the same.
The *only* real concern about AI for me is mass cheating in education, which can easily be fixed with proctored, in person tests and punishment for cheating. And cheating has always been an issue in education anyway.

>>283174292
I love Gulus autism:
> I tell you weaklings, this fucking supernova is a menace, let's fucking get stronger to fuck him up before it reaches us here
> Oh, shit. How much time we have?
> Around 2000 years, so get strong quick!

Then Hiro creates a fucking utopia in less than 10 or so years.

>>283153069
>"Digimon are genderless" misinformation campaign
They used they/them for gekkomon this very episode

>>283152779
Nothing artificial about Digimon well besides the couple that are indeed artificial but I digress.

>>283160417
Thats sex, not gender

>>283180915
If they are genderless they should use "it" instead, they isn't going do the job

>>283180945
noone actually separate sex and gender,people only use it when its convenient

>>283180891
Whose plan was dumber

>>283181156
At the very least, Gulus could feasibly live long enough for GG's super far off disaster to actually be his problem

>>283181156
Rose is dumber because he sabotaged his own plan that was already on track, and he didn't have Gulus's excuse of being driven crazy by PTSD

>>283180915
The translators do, moron.

>>283181048
You shouldn't use "it" because digimon aren't objects or animals.

>>283181544
digimons aren't people either,they are closer to "things", so unless you are going for plural "it" makes more sense

>>283181628
They are closer to people than to things and that’s why they is being used

>>283181825
digimons are closer to animals than humans, the only similiraity to humans is specific individuals and inteligence of some

>>283181870
Humans are animals

>>283180915
Troon translators are - yes.

>>283179398
I guess that's why he resembles Apocalymon.