Thread 283255118

I don't get it. Why is this so popular?
Show teases an interesting story only to ignore it for long periods with 'bounty of the week' episodes which are hit or miss. I love the cast, but it feels like we barely scratched the surface.

>>283255118 (OP)
You just wouldn't get it

>>283255118 (OP)
>where's the DEEP LORE
kill yourself if this isn't bait, or if it is bait.

>>283255118 (OP)
>outing himself as a low iq faggot

>>283255118 (OP)
You're just mad it doesn't have any girls you consider to be your "waifu". Maybe Outlaw Star is more your speed.

>>283255118 (OP)
Seeing people get filtered by episodic storytelling will never fail to make me laugh.

>>283255164
Eh, I get it I guess. It's just way more of a standard for a show to have an overarching story between episodes. Not that they don't do episodic shows anymore, of course they do but I would figure a lot of kids here grew up in the era when TV-shows began to make their shows less episodic in storytelling.

>>283255164
there isn't anything to get filtered over. I grew up on Pokemon, Beyblade and sitcoms etc, I have nothing against episodic storytelling.

>>283255118 (OP)
all watanabe garbage is the same, hope you learned your lesson

>>283255385
It was okay, could have been better but it was not garbage.

>>283255118 (OP)
Cowboy Bebop walked so Samurai Champloo could run.

>>283255118 (OP)
Good music. It’s 90s vibes are unparalleled. Feels like a cigarette on a Saturday evening walk downtown.

>>283255118 (OP)
>filtered by cowboy bebop

>>283255759
OP should just give up. Anime is not for him.

>>283255714
>>283255118 (OP)
both as mid
"lets make an anime out of filler episodes"

Ignoring OP because he's a fag, it's interesting how the rise of streaming and content binging has made linear, serializations so total in viewers' minds. It's not even just disliking self-contained episodes as filler; it's as if their minds cannot even comprehend non-linear narratives.

Compare it to the necessities of TV syndication, where self-contained episode narratives were the norm, since you never knew when a prospective watcher was going to jump in.

>>283255793
yeah yeah I watched this shit ages ago its an incoherent mess and your cope just shows it
you can like it for its aesthetically pleasing animation and spike but anything else is just cope

>>283255118 (OP)
>I don't get it.
yeah we know, you're an idiot
also a faggot
kill yourself

>>283255793
>the rise of streaming and content binging has made linear, serializations so total in viewers' minds
they are literally retards with addled brains
they are no different from tiktok zoomers with short-form internet content induced ADHD brains with holes in them
like this fag here, subhuman >>283255806

>>283255806
I'm not sure if I should tell you to try harder or stop trying. Either way, you're embarrassing both of us.

Zoomer cannot comprehend the art of episodic storytelling. It's much harder to craft an interesting, memorable, well rounded, satisfying plot in 20 minutes than yet another serialized Netflix slop storyline that drags you along for hours of cliché and filler just to justify its runtime.

>>283255964
Zoomers are a sickening species.

>>283255964
I’m a zoomer (98) and it was the first anime I watched.

>>283255964
Zoomers are fairly unique animals

>>283255882
>no argument

>>283255118 (OP)
I remember my uncle was saying this is shit

>>283255964
they'd rather watch abridged youtube edits at 2x speed anyway

>>283256331
they probably pay for premium to do 4x now

>>283255118 (OP)
>no mention of art, music, animation, direction
>'uhhh where is the lore???'
Fucking hell OP

>/a/ now like Cowboy Bebop
What happened? I thought we all agreed it's a normalfag anime for Toonami plebs who don't like anime.

>>283256682
just read this thread
boomers accusing boomers of being adhd zoomers because if every other episode feels like a random filler episode, it's your fault

>>283255793
Always fun to watch an old show and have to figure out if you should watch it in production order, broadcast order, or some other order fans made up.

>>283256749
I just do reverse order.

>>283255118 (OP)
Its one of my favorites of all time, but you need to understand that it was one of the few selected and watched over and over again on TV twenty years ago. To a lot of us who didn't have the internet or streaming it was something we've never seen before. Learn more about the era and context a work is from rather then just try to go "WHY THING LIKED AND POPULAR?"

>>283256759
Reverse of the production order or the broadcast order?

>>283256791
Production order.

>>283256682
Cowboy Bebop still has a lot of merit and has aged very well. Especially if you like different Genres of Cinema like Noir or Western. Its fun to enjoy as a Kid and great to fully understand and contemplate as an adult.

>>283256802
Well, either way you're starting Star Trek on Turnabout Intruder.

>>283256426
>art, music, animation, direction
I thought I shouldn't state the obvious.
It is a 90s Sunrise show scored by Kanno, of course it's stellar.

>>283256749
>>283256791
Always just assume broadcast order in most cases unless its Gun Grave.

>>283255118 (OP)
it was about the journey, not the non-story.
Hence why our protagonist isn't really in a rush until the very end.

>>283257113
>really isn't in a N.Y Rush until the very end
You had one job

>>283257015
Then you already know why it's popular; it's a show that manages to blend all those things into a very nice cohesive whole.

See you space cowboy

>>283255964
I always wonder if the people who are unable to recognize subtext in TV shows and movies also struggle with object permanence.
>>283256682
The anime was never seriously disliked but when someone says Cowboy Bebop is their favorite anime it raises a lot of red flags.
>>283256749
I determine what date and time each episode takes place and try to watch it in real time. Makes episodes with flashbacks a scheduling nightmare though.

How's the movie?

>>283258389
it's great, some great original music tracks, has a good bounty and bounty target, god tier animation and choreography throughout, we get faye rape fanservice, it's a standard bounty bumped up to movie tier stakes but all feels appropriate in tone and thematics for the series

>>283257611
See you space samurai

>>283256682
The problem is normalfags fellating the show so much that they elevate it above the entire medium as if it is the only thing worth watching. Cowboy Bebop still is a really fucking good show though

>>283255164
>episodic storytelling
deboonked by aristotle

>>283255793
I've noticed this with Paranoia Agent, especially. The number one complaint I see about it from the modern generation is that they think the story was shit. They don't really comprehend that the stand-alone plots ARE the show and the story is just a thread to thematically connect them.

>>283260037
I don't remember much of PA, except for suicide club episode, schizo whore teacher and rushed bs ending.

>>283255118 (OP)
It gets you attached to the characters (and them to each other) before they slowly go their separate ways and leave a hole in your heart.

mogged by season one lupin, show is popular because of toonami and nothing more, for non anglo yoroopians it just doesnt have the emotional value that it does for ppl across the pond

>>283260695
>a love letter to Americana like jazz and the wild west frontier mentality has no appeal to yoorofags
Yeah no shit a fucking jazz infused western has middling appeal to the faggot cowards who would rather stay in Europe to be ruled over by kings than live and die rustling and hustling and expanding into the boundless [space] of the new world frontier. You pussies never went to the moon either.

>>283260833
Weird crash out, lmao are all mutts this insecure?

>>283260894
I'm not crashing out at all, I'm literally just emphatically stating the obvious man. I'm perfectly calm.

>>283260833
>i heckin' LOVE the RUSTLING and HUSTLING of the frontier

>>283255118 (OP)
zoomers shouldn't be allowed to watch anything prior to 2010

>>283255118 (OP)
This show would've been better without Faye and Ed.

>>283255118 (OP)
Only thing I didn't like was the ending. Everyone is just written out just so they can kill off spike.

>>283261543
Faye is the best character with the saddest most emotionally resonant and beautiful moment in the entire show.

>>283261699
I didn't feel anything for that filler episode.
Just wanted more stuff with Spike and the Red Dragon Syndicate.

>>283255118 (OP)
Because Spike is shit and dies at the end

>>283261774
there are no filler episodes, zoomer mutt retard
because you're a gay retard nigger with 70 IQ

>>283261867
Lmao
Stop seething over Chinese cartoons.

>>283259551
Oh I see, this is some stupid new meme going around.

>>283261774
How can you say the payoff to Faye's entire deal as a character is filler. Like, nigga what the fuck.

>>283255118 (OP)
mass appealing. its one of the few anime you can show other normies and they wont think youre weird for liking anime. its really just that simple

>>283260833
nta, I hate jazz and even I thought that music was really good most of the run (except for that shitty opening, RFB should have been the opening).

>>283263296
I don't agree at all, whether you hate jazz or love jazz Real Folk Blues is a 100% ED material song.

>>283263416
It fits the show too perfectly to not be an opening, but it's still a great ED.

>>283259259
see you space dandy

>>283264346
I haven't seen SD yet, do they use that line at end card?

Is good and people that dont like anime can enjoy it

>>283261543
>without Ed
Agreed. She's the worst character Watanabe has ever made.

>>283261867
>there are no filler episodes
>Toys in the Attic

>>283269195
I don't like Toys in the Attic but it's not a filler episode.

>>283255118 (OP)
>Why is this so popular?
Never was

>>283269329
True, Samurai Champloo was the popular one

>>283269906
>Ed, but fat and even more annoying

>>283269195
that's one of best episodes other then perriot le fou episode

Show is 9/10 if you ignore the Julia shit and close your eyes whenever she is on screen.

>I dont get it
Of course you dont

It teased an interesting world people wanted to explore more.
Much better than Watanabe's boring modern shitshows like C&T or whatever the fuck the last one was (didn't even watch know it would just be more trash Netflix writers wrote and paid to put his name on)

>>283261543
stfu, Faye is literally the best character and Ed is cute too.

>>283273607
You need to get better choices in waifus than a boring hoe.

>>283255164
Outing yourself as someone who prefers short chunks of dopamine’s bursts is not a flex

>>283273607
Ed is retarded, get some taste

>>283256682
We literally grew up on Toonami. I've had every minute of Bebop and GITS burned into my brain from having them on in the background each week.

>>283255207
>It's just way more of a standard for a show to have an overarching story between episodes
Maybe that's the expectation now.
But that has nothing to do with Cowboy Bebop.
It's the difference between a novel and a collection of short stories.
You want everything to be a novel, where every episode is a chapter of the full story.
When tv used to be short stories.

The "interesting story" is the worst part of the show, it could have been a solid 9/10 but the terrible ending retroactively ruins the great episodes

>>283255118 (OP)
Sure it could have been more but that wasn't the plan of the creators. The show did what good art does, captures a sensation, a vibe, a flavor. Don't be so negative and call it overrated or whatever.

>>283273918
retarded girls are the best.

>>283257902
>when someone says Cowboy Bebop is their favorite anime it raises a lot of red flags.
About what? Its not like you are going to hang out with a cowboy bebop lover from this site so why care?

>>283276015
>Its not like you are going to hang out
no, but you are going to discuss anime online.

>>283255118 (OP)
Because people like (You) won't shut the fuck up about why it's so popular.

>>283276492
And?

>>283257902
>when someone says Cowboy Bebop is their favorite anime it raises a lot of red flags.
The reason why girls dont like you is due to you being a contrarian who is not able to create your own opinions. Just so you know, the next time you get rejected.

>>283268112
>Call me, call me....
>Let me know its alright.....

>>283278947
>silently, voraciously eating eggs to swallow their sadness
>they have way too many because their crew is cut in half

>>283279039
Extreme kino alert

>>283274915
I wish they showed at least some of their background. Just an episode or even an extended flashback of Vicious and Spike fighting side by side, the one where he gets ambushed and 'dies' the first time or Injured Spike getting healed by Julia.
It would have gone a long way into developing their dynamic and making the ending hit.

>>283271886
And if eyes are open when Julia is on screen?

>>283280262
spray red eye.

>>283280923
ok

>>283279998
Its hinted at and subtly implied. A full on episode or flash back arc would be far too much. You get the idea especially if you watch the series multiple times. Which is honestly what you are intended to do.

>>283278866
it's thresome to discuss things with somebody who has contempt and ignorance regarding the medium.

>>283282715
tiresome*

>>283282715
Well It took you nearly 6 hours but I'm glad you got there. Ignoring the person you don't want to talk with is a start. Also if someone says something the makes you cringe don't bother with replying most of the time because its unlikely they will probably reply back. Living with people who have different opinions is also one way of going about things but this is 4chan so you do you.

>>283255118 (OP)
I'm watching it for the first time because it's one of the universally acclaimed shows I completely missed years ago. Will any future episode get any more stupid than an immortal unkillable kid who murders random people for no reason, and can only be hurt with a magic bullet?

>>283255118 (OP)
It's full of MKULTRA Monarch trigger phrases and symbolism.

>>283284735
Had to rescure it from page 10 first.

>>283284766
The whole SCRATCH episode. It combined with Ergo Proxy became the 2020 movie "The Empty Man".

Here we see shatter / mirror break symbolism combined with moon splitting. Common up till ~2010. Evangelion flashed it for 1 frame using Rei as a symbol substitution. Etc.

>>283284817
Purple = 88, Green = 49. 88 + 49 = 137, 33rd prime. She wears gold and red.

>>283255164
Not necessarily. I didn't enjoy the episodic nature of Bebop, but I did do in Violet Evergarden.

>>283255118 (OP)
OP, I'm there with you. it has some good ideas, but ruined by all the filler episodes. Bebop is babby's first "stylistic" anime and everyone worships it for that.

The one thing I'll hate about this show (and its got nothing to do with its quality) is how people still spread the lie that it was a failure in Japan.

>>283282925
Most are fine, there is one dumb mushroom episode.
at least the woman in there is hot.

>>283261774
Same.

>>283261812
>Spike is cool and dies at the end. Which is cool.
ftfy

>>283271886
Julia was great. You were just too stop to follow the story. Nobody is surprised.

>>283280262
14/10

>>283286508
or that watanabe prefers the dub.

>>283286541
Guess who wrote Mushroom Samba, lol.

>>283289777
watanabe also wrote that feng shui episode, it was nice.

>>283255118 (OP)
Use your eyes and ears, and find out.

>>283255118 (OP)
>Why is this so popular?
Grooming
Old weaboos liked it and forced the younger generations to like it too or be considered posers.
It's the same with Star Wars, KOTOR
A holy cow that you can't criticize or ignore.
It's not bad by any means, just overrated like Tarantino's movies

>>283282925
Toys in the Attic was pretty stupid. Kid just eats the monster and the episode is over.

>>283255118 (OP)
It's loved by boomers who watched it on Adult Swim. They don't like anime.

>>283255118 (OP)
It’s one of the few anime free of incest pedo diddy ahh shit, that’s why it’s popular.

>>283271886
>9/10 even without its best elements and iconic main plot
high praise

>>283290886
Isn't that one considered one of the weakest episodes of the entire show?

>>283294408
It is considered the weakest.

>>283294226
Incorrect.

I'd like to be as cool as Jet when I'm 40

>>283255118 (OP)
>"The thing you liked when you were young actually sucked the whole time."
I hate nu /a/ so much.

>>283256682
>What happened? I thought we all agreed it's a normalfag anime for Toonami plebs who don't like anime.
I don't know what you're talking about, most people on this board use to like Cowboy Bebop. It's only in the 2020s when /pol/fags invaded the board & started hating on anything "Western influenced" that this series started getting shat on.

>>283295407
It is not uncommon that the things we liked as kids weren't actually good.

>>283255164
The only thing laughable here is enjoying awful episodic storytelling

>>283298004
>He can't enjoy episodic story telling

Lol, genuinely embarrassing

>>283255118 (OP)
The main story is the least interesting thing about the show
Spike is a jackass who stole his friend's whore

The show is liked because of the style, music, concepts, voice acting and shit
The episodes can be hit or miss, but when it hits it fucking hits
The Pierrot Le Fou episode is very memorable for one, remember being so creeped out by it

>>283285037
First? What other anime has style comparable to Cowboy Bebop?

>>283255118 (OP)
Babby's first anime for most americans

>>283300288
Lupin III, especially Part I, has a lot in common with it. Watanabe even admitted that Spike was based off of Lupin.

>>283255289
Beyblade has a continuing storyline, it wasn't episodic
Bebop is closer to Batman TAS where episodes are self-contained + some small main story

BTW OG Beyblade is still the most autisitic anime/manga ever made
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1000&v=aRCMHAHYK1w

Feels very artificial around here, future of the net ain't looking so bright.

>>283295481
Those are the kinds of people who love Cowboy Bebop. They hate moe stuff, and always have. Just look at how much they hate Onimai.

>>283300097
t. incel

>>283260695
Apples and Oranges
Of course Lupin and co. mog the Bebop crew big time
But Bebop's appeal for me isn't even the characters
It's what happens around them and the world around them; the concept of a future that is essentially the wild west that somehow co-exists with advanced technology
Bebop's melancholical view of the future is a gritty but ultimately comforting one because it's based on Watanabe's love for 20th Century European/American Cinema and Music(you are wrong about the non-Anglo European part too since some of the episodes are literally based on French New Wave Cinema), so in that sense Bebop is an ultimate sort of tribute to the pop culture of 20th century(particularly the 1920s to the 1960s/70s) and that includes Asian pop culture like Bruce Lee too + the guy on whom Spike's character design was based on was Japanese actor Yusaku Matsuda(who also was featured on a Hollywood movie before he died young) let's not forget that and I think that's what most people find unique and appealing about Bebop

Bebop is not just an anime, it's a tribute to a different time period
In a sense it's the anti-Blade Runner
Whereas Blade Runner warns us how bad the future will be; Bebop instead comforts us by throwing a blanket at us by taking us into a nostalgic vision of the future where the future somehow resembles the past

>>283260695
Apples and Oranges
Of course Lupin and co. mog the Bebop crew big time
But Bebop's appeal for me isn't even the characters
It's what happens around them and the world around them; the concept of a future that is essentially the wild west that somehow co-exists with advanced technology
Bebop's melancholical view of the future is a gritty but ultimately comforting one because it's based on Watanabe's love for 20th Century European/American Cinema and Music(you are wrong about the non-Anglo European part too since some of the episodes are literally based on French New Wave Cinema), so in that sense Bebop is an ultimate sort of tribute to the pop culture of 20th century(particularly the 1920s to the 1960s/70s) and that includes Asian pop culture like Bruce Lee too + the guy on whom Spike's character design was based on was Japanese actor Yusaku Matsuda(who also was featured on a Hollywood movie before he died young) let's not forget that and I think that's what most people find unique and appealing about Bebop

Bebop is not just an anime, it's a tribute to a different time period
In a sense it's the anti-Blade Runner
Whereas Blade Runner warns us how bad the future will be; Bebop instead at comforting us(and I guess Watanabe) by throwing a blanket at us by taking us into a nostalgic vision of the future where the future somehow resembles the past

>>283263962
Wrong
RFB is only about Spike/Julia/Vicious
Tank fits better as the OP

>>283284766
>virus mixing system
>missing any word starting with C
Hmmmmmm

>>283300369
>Watanabe even admitted that Spike was based off of Lupin.
Bullshit. He said he was based on Yusaku Matsuda.
Vicious was obviously inspired by Goemon but that's a different thing.
And obviously Bebop was inspired by Lupin the 3rd but it's something very different nonetheless.

Lupin at his cuckiest is never such a simp like Spike.
And at his Chaddest he is literally a criminal rapist in the original manga but Miyazaki kiddified it for TV.

>>283300953
It's funny to think that the guns in Bebop are guns that would be almost 100 years old in terms of their designs by 2071

>>283301192
Shit figure
His hair looks like Deku's and her hair looks too saturated

>>283301306
Tbf do you think we will have more advanced guns than the ones in Bebop in 2071?
With how slow tech is evolving I doubt we'll have something like Star Wars-style Blasters in 2071

>>283301192
Stunning.

>>283301507
Anon, if the 1911 is still relevant after 110+ years
Believe me, it'll be 2071 and the 92FS, Glock 17, and the S&W revolvers will still be used and made

>>283301639
Let's be honest here; the difference between a Blaster and a conventional handgun is much bigger than the one between the 1911 and and the Jericho

If Blasters ever happen then the traditional handgun will go the way of the sword

>>283289962
>No Asteroid Blues
shit list
>listing ameridub airdate instead of OG JP release date
cringe site

>>283256682
>I thought we all agreed
This is 4chan, retard. No one here will even find consensus on literally anything.

>>283301946
I highly doubt we'll see the technology unless we run into an IRL Covenant

>>283255118 (OP)
What if, like, episodes were made to be enjoyed as is

>>283301239
Spike and Julia "simped" for each other equally. Back in the day we called it being in love.

>>283303383
>we called it being in love
such gayshit

>>283257902
>when someone says Cowboy Bebop is their favorite anime it raises a lot of red flags.
Oh, really? Someone saying that a space western anime that was widely beloved and aired on mainstream networks is their favourite is "a red flag." It's only the second anime most people watch after Pokemon (Akira is the third.) What weirdos those people must be.
Pro tip: If someone's asking for your favourite anime, they're an otaku, and telling an Otaku you liked cowboy bebop is like telling a sci-fi nerd you liked star wars. Indicative of having surface-level experience with the medium, maybe, but hardly a red flag in the same way telling someone you're a lolicon would be.

Cowboy Bebop was the first "anime" I actually completely watched. I remember waking up to the episode parodying Heaven's Gate on Adult Swim early in the morning, it still sits in the back of my head.
It's amazing and it's dub is one of the few examples where it's better than the original.

>>283304356
this is why we can't discuss cowboy bebop on /a/ and why faggots like the OP exists
because of retards like yourself who are living stereotypes and cliches
the dub is not better than the original, fucking kill yourself you stupid nigger

>>283301239
I think Spike is really just an amalgamation of guys Watanabe thought was cool and that includes Lupin and Yusaku Matsuda.

Also, now is as good a time as any to mention that the first five episodes of Tantei Monogatari are fansubbed. It's a really good show, no longer Japanese boomers were obsessed with it.

>>283301306
it's retrofuturism.