Thread 283279999

According to Japan's Agency for Cultural Affairs, these are the most influential and memorable works in the history of Japanese media arts that helped shape modern anime.

Do you agree?

>>283279999 (OP)
I have not seen any of these

>>283280037
get out

>>283279999 (OP)
>Ghost in the shell over Dragon Ball
Huh

>>283279999 (OP)
>FMA over dragon ball
>devilman rip off at number 1
Embarrassing

>>283280066
I've probably seen more anime than you, I just don't watch boring shit like this list

>>283279999 (OP)
Kamichu is the only good one here

>>283279999 (OP)
>Lupine
Lupinでしょう？

>>283279999 (OP)
>no KnY

>>283279999 (OP)
>No Space Battleship Yamato
>No Sailor Moon
>No Macross
>No Urusei Yatsura
>No Gosenzo-sama Banbanzai
What in the holy fuck??

>>283280092
Even if you're joking please kill yourself immediately.

>>283280116
I mean some of those are in the top 100, just not in this part of top 25.

>>283279999 (OP)
If you haven't seen AT LEAST half of this list, why are you even on /a/?

conqueror of shamballa being on that list is weird af though.

>>283280137
They should be in the top fucking 15
Who assembled this list?
Why is KAMICHU in there?

This is made as a list of influential and memorable works for other creatives of note in the Japanese animation industry.
I think it's a decent list. You can draw clear lines between several individuals on the staff lists of these works.

All of you going "???" are probably thinking more about popularity in the pop-culture scene, which is irrelevant.
Kurosawa was hugely influential on several bigshot Western movie makers but his movies aren't that popular even in pretentious film circles, despite the fact that his name is namedropped by them at every opportunity.

Just look at the staff listings of, say, Char's Counterattack or Patlabor 2.
I accept the inclusion of stuff I haven't scene, because I trust that they were influential on creators.

>>283280154
Have not seen any of these either

>>283280154
>no KnY

>>283280160
Gosenzosama was so influential in terms of designs/movement that reactions to it earned the term "Gosenzo-shock" from every animator who was active in the industry when it came out.

>>283280116
What you listed are snack tier anime these are actual food.

>>283280154
>Lupine
REEEE

>>283280203
Shut your mouth nigger

>no KnY
>no SnK

>>283279999 (OP)
>Chungsa
The fuck is that supposed to be?

>>283279999 (OP)
Kamichu? Really?

>>283280273
It is regarded as a masterpiece and was recognized for its artistic quality, winning the Excellence Award in the Animation Division at the 2005 Japan Media Arts Festival. Among TV anime, it achieved the highest distinction. It also ranked joint 22nd, alongside The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, in the Agency for Cultural Affairs’ “Japan Media Arts 100 Selections” (Animation Division).

Critic Yuichiro Oguro highly praised the series for its engaging story and its animation that captures natural human emotions and movements. Critic Ryusuke Hikawa also lauded it as a work that brings happiness.

Manga artist Tatsuki Fujimoto has said that he likes the series and has watched it several times because he found it so enjoyable.

>>283280273
I can kinda see why a japanese government department would like it but it does stick out

>>283279999 (OP)
The titles are correct but I don't agree with the order.

>>283280160
Wrong. This is an even worse take because then the list is missing generation defining works. Where are Gold Lightan and Naruto which got entire generations of animators to become animators? Where is Night on the Galactic Railroad? Where is Gamba? This list makes no sense no matter the perspective you look at it from. I have NEVER and I mean never read or heard a Japanese creative talk about how LotGH or Kamichu oder FMA of all things influenced them. Meanwhile there are countless people who got into animation because of sakuga episodes in Gold Lightan (including Yuasa) or Matsumoto's animation in Naruto.

>>283280187
>>283280247
Both are modern anime retard

>>283280401
So is FMA

>>283279999 (OP)
Kamichu? Who the hell knows that internationally? No Pokemon in the top 20 is crazy.

>>283280401
>over a decade old
>modern

>>283280435
Pokemon anime is garbage and everybody knows that

>no One Piece or Naruto
LOL

>>283279999 (OP)
Funnyschizo gonna freak

>>283279999 (OP)
Why are 2-6, 8 and 10 the only ones who get a place? What does it mean?

>>283280478
Stop noticing

>>283279999 (OP)
>Japan's Agency for Cultural Affairs
yikes

>>283280203
>food analogy

>>283280531
let him cook

some obvious omissions, but yeah Kamichu is a masterpiece

>>283280398
>Meanwhile there are countless people who got into animation because of sakuga episodes in Gold Lightan (including Yuasa) or Matsumoto's animation in Naruto.
Or Hakkenden or FLCL etc.
This is obviously not made from a sakugafags perspective.

>>283280554
Alright, that's it.
Get in the oven.

>>283279999 (OP)
>Chungsa
what is this?

>>283280621
Mushishi

>>283280621
Big Chungus

>>283279999 (OP)
I am not Japanese.

>>283280655
We know.

>>283280116
>Gosenzo-sama Banbanzai
How is it influential?

Why post an automated translation instead of the original?

Name the last time you've seen kamichu thread.

>>283280105
>>283280187
KnY is just popular. It didn't influence or shape modern anime.

>>283280435
>internationally
Irrelevant

>>283280743
It certainly shaped the minds of the two young spics you replied to

>>283280151
>If you haven't seen AT LEAST half of this list,
Why would I? Cardcaptor Sakura and Chungsa are the only good anime on that list.

>>283280711
I don't think they take 4chan threadcount into consideration

>>283280037
>>283280092
You are not missing much yeah, from this list I would only recommend Eva and CCS, you can skip everything else.

>>283279999 (OP)
Haruhi won btw

Glad Kamichu is getting the recognition it deserves. For all of you here complaining about it, your opinion doesn't matter.

This is a list from 2006
https://en.namu.wiki/w/%EC%9D%BC%EB%B3%B8%20%EB%AF%B8%EB%94%94%EC%96%B4%20%EC%98%88%EC%88%A0%20100%EC%84%A0

>>283279999 (OP)
post the link
also
>fma

>eva is first
that piece of shit is first?

>>283280105
>>283280187
>>283280247
>>283280398
>>283280446
Because Its a list from 2006
https://kurashidata.com/548#100_2006

>>283279999 (OP)
>Fullmetal Alchemist
How?

>>283280881
retard

>>283280881
>>283280830
Thankfully this thread has confirmed Kamichu is as relevant now as it was then

>>283280811
>>283280970
>>283280573
The list was rigged by Kamichu fans like the ones quoted. They smuggled in fake anime like "Chungasa" too, probably as a joke. This thread is a psy-op.

>>283281000
>Kamichu fans
The whole 5 of them, I am sure.

>>283281000
Yeah, chungasa can't be a real anime name, chunguses weren't invented until after 2006

NGE is just extremely overrated by a certain nostalgic circle of fans it doesn't deserve to be 1

>>283281000
>https://kurashidata.com/548#100_2006
Looks like it's MTL for Mushishi

>>283281010
They're an extremely small but elite group. Remember what Lenin said about revolutionaries. You only need a few good men to get the job done.

No sailor moon ? That shit pretty much kick-started the magical girl genre

>>283281098
kek

>>283281098
It's 38

>>283279999 (OP)
How is FMA influential and memorable but not other battle shounen?? I can understand DB at least.

>>283281098
This is only original anime, not manga adaptions.

>Castle of Lupine
>Chungsa
>Shambhala
>Red Pig
>Counterattck of Adult Empire
>Kamichu
who?

>>283281132
Shin-chan movie

>>283281098
>kick-started the magical girl genre
Maybe the sentai like part of it but not the rest.
>>283281132
>he hasn't watched Red Pig

was this MTL from jap to chink to eng or some shit, how is it so bad

>>283281190
Worse: Corean

>>283280968
???

>>283279999 (OP)
LoGH mentioned

>>283280160
Your statement about is wrong since NGE tops the list while in fact NGE sure had some good animation bad clearly not worth a mention.

>>283281277
The face of autistic man

>>283281036
>>283281280
NGE was a miracle for the japanese economy. They've managed to sell so much overpriced plastic because of it.

>>283279999 (OP)
Where is JoJo's?

Oh boy another fucking list thread from and for a bunch of norm-

>>283279999 (OP)
>>283280881
>23

A refined pallete of works, each entry highlighting a new height of Japanese storytelling fused with the passionate, unique visual styles only found in Japanimation.

>>283281190
This is pretty standard google translatese.

>>283279999 (OP)
>Anno on first and second place
Apologize

>>283279999 (OP)
Here's the actual list in nip without these google tl shit.

>>283281490
>.gif
anon what the fuck

>>283281508
That's straight from their website.

>>283280830
>>283280881
So what? Almost nothing relevant was produced after that.

>1st
>2nd place
>7th
>8th place

>>283280037
I have watched all of those.

>>283279999 (OP)
Where’s Madoka

>>283280830
>>283280881
Oh lol
Op is a faggot

>>283281596
>>283280881

>>283279999 (OP)
>From 2006
How would the list look now? Mugen Train would be there for sure

>>283280830
but Fullmetal Alchemist started airing in 2009

>>283279999 (OP)
>Kamichu
well that's a surprise
I love it but never thought it was that highly regarder

>>283281646
Are you stupid?

>>283281544
>It appears my superiority has led to some controversy

>mihackzaki
>list average release year is in the prehistory
List disregarded

>>283279999 (OP)
I don't see Naruto, which should be there.

>>283281924
IESLB

>>283280154
More than half of that list is no longer relevant and thus, utterly meaningless.

>>283281967
>t. Hackao Mihackzaki
Don 't you have a worthless son to beat?

>>283281552
I will not stand for dishonesty and deception

>it's old, therefore it's obsolete
normalfag mentality

>>283281992
Did you wander in from DBS or something
Shoo, andale.

>>283281280
Aside from direct Rei and Kaworu rip-offs, which kind of faded out by now but were very common in anime for a while, NGE heavily changed the whole anime industry thanks to its late night reruns, which influenced the idea of airing new shows on that timeslot too, rather than every tv showing aiming for the daytime or early evening market. You also got a push for characters based products rather than the usual robots, since it was seen as freeing them from sponsor requests on the robot designs and even use in the show.

Really, if you want to complain about stuff that's only there due to popularity (and from the time, they wouldn't even appear in a list made later) you have Kamichu! and freaking Conqueror of Shamballa.

Legend of Galactic Heroes although old and renown hasn't really had much influence either and stands as an oddity if you compare it to other shows from any era.

>>283279999 (OP)
>Dragon Ball
>#11
Way too high

>>283279999 (OP)
Where is Pokemon?

>>283279999 (OP)
I'm surprised they didn't put in rose of Versailles

>>283281552
>>283282015
If these shows can't hold their position for another 20 years, then their placement is misjudged.

>>283279999 (OP)
>laputa
Hehehe

>>283282531
Their position in what? Normalfaggots social media feed and tourists circlejerking discourse?
I guess John Ford movies are shit because no normalfaggot today even knows they exist.

>>283282668
In this list you absolute retard. What else could I be talking about?

>>283282015
Receny bias is a thing, and that poll is obviously affected by it. Not to mention, the legacy of a series becomes much clearer to judge years later when we can see if it actually influences future big names or is still in the public conscious.

>>283282668
Everything I like should be respected, and everything I don't like should be forgotten.

>>283279999 (OP)
>Red pig
Do they mean porco rosso?

>>283283301
They mean Kurenai no Buta.

>>283279999 (OP)
>23rd Kamichu!
Excuse me?

>>283279999 (OP)
Kamichu? Was it really that influential?

>>283283324
Because it is weird, when the film start, it displays crimson pig with the other translation if I remember correctly.

>>283283394
Yes, it influenced my life

>>283280104
puresu undarstando, automatically translated titles are not the english titles.
5) Lupin
12) Acktually Princess Mononoke (they didn't translate the second word)
16) Has a spelling error, Shamballa
17) Porco Rosso
and some that I don't recognize

>>283279999 (OP)
>Dragon Ball below Ghost in the Shell, Fullmetal Alchemist and Evangelion.
Japanese are known for their notoriously shit taste.

>>283279999 (OP)
Great
Bad
Bad
Mid
Great
Didn't watch
Mid
Bad
Great
Mid
Ranges from bad to great
Ok
Good
Ok
Ok
LMAO
Mid
Great
Didn't watch
Bad
Great
Great
Didn't watch
Didn't watch
Bad

>>283280092
frfr not even boku no pico?? how the fuck is bocchi not on this

>>283279999 (OP)
>Evangelion
>Doraemon
>Gundam
>Totoro
>Dragon Ball
>Z Gundam
All those had either loli nudity, shota nudity, uncensored boobs or all 3 of them
So if they recognize those things as important and influential the why go out of their way to censor all 3 of those things on every anime remake, reruns and streaming?

>>283280087
Actually, it's a Zeorymer ripoff.

>>283284507
Your logic is completely insane
Seek mental asylum

>>283280037
>>283280092
ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>283284555
Not him, but nudity is natural and I genuinely believe that nudity and body focus breathes humanity into anime. Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, humans have bodies, are aware of them and look at them. Whether lewd or non-lewd, it's inseparable part of human experience and makes stories better when included.

>>283279999 (OP)
I know 20 of those but only watched 6

>>283279999 (OP)
I don't even watch much anime but I've watched 16 of those

>>283284507
Muttland happened.

>>283279999 (OP)
>>283280154
Nice to see FMA there. I'm interested in why Samurai 7 is there though.

>>283286476
then why are you on /a/?

>>283280154
>nadesico
Was that show that big?

>>283279999 (OP)
>16th: Conquerer of Shambhala
You mean the FMA movie with the actual nazis? What the fuck is that doing there?

>>283280154
>Samurai 7
Obama he is trolling.

>>283279999 (OP)
Nice quads but the Laputa Animation Festival poll is still better.

Top films:
1. My Neighbor Totoro (1988, Miyazaki)
2. The Little Prince and the Eight-Headed Dragon (1963, Serikawa)
3. Horus: Prince of the Sun (1968, Takahata)
4. Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind (1984, Miyazaki)
5. Laputa: Castle in the Sky (1986, Miyazaki)
6. Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro (1979, Miyazaki)
7. Spirited Away (2001, Miyazaki)
8. Akira (1988, Otomo)
9. Grave of the Fireflies (1988, Takahata)
10. Puss ‘n Boots (1969, Yabuki)

Top series:
1. Future Boy Conan (1978, Miyazaki)
2. The Adventures of Gamba (1975, Dezaki)
3. Astro Boy (1963, Tezuka)
4. Mobile Suit Gundam (1979, Tomino)
5. Neon Genesis Evangelion (1995, Anno)
6. Heidi, Girl of the Alps (1974, Takahata)
7. Lupin III (1971, Osumi/Miyazaki/Takahata)
8. 3000 Leagues in Search of Mother (1976, Takahata)
9. Anne of Green Gables (1979, Takahata)
10. Space Battleship Yamato (1974, Matsumoto/Nishizaki)

Top shorts:
1. The Spider and the Tulip (1943, Masaoka)
2. Dojoji Temple (1976, Kawamoto)
3. The Magic Ballad (1982, Okamoto)
4. Jumping (1984, Tezuka)
5. House of Flame (1979, Kawamoto)
6. Broken Down Film (1985, Tezuka)
7. Tales of a Street Corner (1962, Tezuka/Yamamoto/Sakamoto)
8. Coffee Break (1977, Furukawa)
9. Mt. Head (2002, Yamamura)
10. The Breaking of Branches is Forbidden (1968, Kawamoto)

>>283287664
>My Neighbor Totoro (1988, Miyazaki)
And dismissed. Kiki, Mononoke Hime, Nausicaa>>>> my faggot totoro.

>>283280037
at least watch haruhi

>>283287783
>Mononoke Hime better than Totoro
MH was Miyazaki's worst work before The Boy and The Heron

>>283281122
>>283287005
Given how the list is from 2006, it makes absolute sense, that series is what jump started Bones in the first place iirc.

any list with Akira is an automatic DQ. What an overrated shit.

>>283282015
Anime is just much better now.

>>283279999 (OP)
I don't think I've heard of a single one of these except for Dragonball, Gundam, and Doraemon.
Trash list of literally who's. Where's Attack on Titan? Where's Chainsaw Man? Where's Sword Arts Online?

>>283289082
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>283280321
Agreed. Kamichu is good but feels like something that was gov subsidized. Lots of cultural stuff.

>>283281913
Yurie is your goddess whether you like it or not

>>283289446
Cute retard in love

>>283281490
>>283281504
>no SAO
It singlehandedly created an entire decade+ of blackhaired protagonists who get transported to another world.

>>283279999 (OP)
>half of them didn't inspired shit or were inspired by a more memorable work
the absolute state

>>283291663
Check your grammar before you post. We are not in a death battle thread.

>>283279999 (OP)
>the most influential
>that helped shape modern anime.
I think Japanese people don't know what these words mean.

>>283279999 (OP)
>>283281132
>Castle of Lupine III Cagliostro
Lupin III the best movie
>Chungsa
Chainsaw man?
>Shambhala
FMA 2003 the final movie
>Red Pig
Red Pig = Porco rosso
>Counterattck of Adult Empire
Crayon Shin-chan movie
>Kamichu
CGDCT from 2005

>>283279999 (OP)
probably would swap shamballa for Madoka or Sao, since we are sill getting madoka clones and Isekai to this very day

also
>kamichu
lmao

>>283292175
>Chungsa
Mushi-shi. Apparently the wrong transliteration is korean for some reason.

>>283292474
>Madoka or Sao, since we are sill getting madoka clones and Isekai
(You)

>>283292474
I agree

>>283279999 (OP)
>>283280154
So proof Old really IS Good, and New really IS Bad

>>283293092
As this list is supposedly from 2006, the fact that it includes FMA does not really make it sound like "old good".

>>283279999 (OP)
All these shows are woke where’s dragon ball heroes

>>283293092
>list made in 2006
>has series like Haruhi, Kamichu and Mushishi among the top 30
>literally shows that aired 1-2 years ago back when this was made
It's the exact opposite, this list has a lot of recency bias and it feels more like a "new good" list

>>283279999 (OP)
Dragon Ball should be much higher and that retarded 2003 WW2 fanfic ending shouldn't even be here, let alone over fucking Madoka, which is still giving us edgy magical girls today.

>>283279999 (OP)
>tfw still haven't seen Nausicaa
It's on my HDD, I swear I'll get to it eventually.
With that being said, Evangelion being number one is pretty obvious. If there ever was one example of THE anime, Eva had to be it.

>>283279999 (OP)
I haven't seen 99% of anime but I've largely cleared this list. I will happily take this as confirmation that I have sifted through the trash successfully.

>>283280154
>>283280116
>>283279999 (OP)
>Cardcaptor Sakura over SM
HAHA take that Toei slop eaters, CLAMP chads win again!

>>283279999 (OP)
>No Rumic IPs
Isn’t she the richest mangaka in Japan for a reason? At the very least either Urusei Yatsura or Ranma should be on that list for creating the modern harem and bishoujo genres and codifying such common anime tropes like tsunderes and yanderes.

>>283288887
How much are you being paid to be wrong on the Internet?

>>283279999 (OP)
I did not expect Kamichu. Pleasant surprise.

I finished reading the first book of Nausicaa and besides the first 50 pages, I was pretty bored the whole way through.
Am I a brainlet?

>>283280798
the melancholy of peak

>>283282126
>Legend of Galactic Heroes although old and renown hasn't really had much influence either and stands as an oddity if you compare it to other shows from any era.
That's because it's an OVA, it's literally funded and maintained separately from the regular anime ecosystem. That's why it's such a unique and ambitious show, regardless of the opinion one has about it. The influence it has, if one can find it anywhere, is probably not in making other giant OVA shows.

>>283294938
I read her works and they're all shit

>>283298124
>all shit
Not a fan of the tsundere trope I take it?

>>283279999 (OP)
>influential
No. If we are talking about influential shows Astro Boy, Mazinger Z, Sailor Moon, Hokuto no Ken, Death Note, SAO and at least one shoujo should be there.

>>283279999 (OP)
never heard of 6th, 17th, 19th
I know of the rest but only watched 5/25
hbu fags

>>283300276
>and at least one shoujo should be there
You already mentioned Sailor Moon though.

>>283301370
Sailor Moon is shonen for black women

>>283280037
Based

>>283300276
sneaked in DN, like we wouldn't notice.

>>283280105
>modern anime shaped itself out of thin air

>>283292175
Ah yes, lets get an ero doujin artist do character designs for us.

>>283279999 (OP)
Anno in shambles

>>283279999 (OP)
>Fucking STAND ALONE COMPLEX above GiTS
>Dragon Ball and Pokemon not undisputed 1 v 2
Fake list they made up to make themselves feel better

>>283304393
Pokemon is pure slop you retard

>>283279999 (OP)
Actual top 25 (No particular order)
1. Evangelion
2. Nausicaa
3. Pokemon
4. Gundam
5. Lupin III
6. Astro Boy
7. Mazinger Z
8. Hokuto no Ken
9. Perfect Blue
10. Ghost in the Shell
11. Dragon Ball
12. Ashita no Joe
13. Akira
14. Spirited Away
15. Doraemon
16. Battleship Yamato
17. Sailor Moon
18. FLCL
19. Slam Dunk
20. Madoka Magica
21. Cardcaptor Sakura
22. Haruhi Suzumiya
23. Princess Knight
24. Love Live
25. SAO

>>283304541
>No particular order
what does that mean

>>283282160
cope

>>283280087
Absolute bullshit.

>>283280154
>50th lupin
I call bullshit

>>283279999 (OP)
>Haruhi Suzumiya over >>283280154
Slam Dunk
Bullshit, the former literally is a sports anime benchmark and it's op is one of the most popular karaoke songs in history while the latter at best had some hand in the brief para para craze and memes. Even K-On has more cultural relevance because it's relatable while haruhi was just good.

>>283304541
>Sailor Moon over Cardcaptor Sakura
Your Toei toy shilling kiddy shit will never be good.

>>283279999 (OP)
>>283279999 (OP) (OP)
>Haruhi Suzumiya over >>283280154
Slam Dunk
Bullshit, the latter literally is a sports anime benchmark and it's op is one of the most popular karaoke songs in history while the former at best had some hand in the brief para para craze and memes. Even K-On has more cultural relevance because it's relatable while haruhi was just good.

>>283295953
I wish there were more giant OVA shows.

>>283305047
Lotgh didn't have animation as good as other ovas.

>>283305062
Absolutely correct, but directing was good and it told a good story very well.

>>283305062
Because it had an episode per month and not per year.

>>283305344
Imagine being such a brainless npc that you have to repeat what has already been said in the first fucking post

>>283286600
Probably just because it's based on Seven Samurai.

>>283280830
>>283280881
mods STILL
didnt remove this thread and permaban OP