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Imagine what it did to his already unwarranted sense of self importance.

He learned that free will doesn't exist and he wasn't a self-made man, this definitely did not help his ego. His first act as Femto is petty revenge. After becoming a godhand his insecurity only is affirmed. He's driven to assert dominance on Casca, Guts and all of humanity out of magnified insecurity.

>>283449357
If anything, the only fitting end for a character like Griffith would be for he himself to end up turning against the Idea of Evil, and destroying it in some sort of heroic sacrifice, inspired by Guts' constant defiance of his own fate.
It's the natural conclusion of his boundless ambition when faced with the fact that all he did so far was walking a path chosen for him.
Guts having to deal with this shit by himself would be nonsensical.

>Has the opportunity to save Judeau from being brutally murdered
>I WANT WINGS!
What the actual fuck, Griffith

>>283449697
Wings are sweet

>>283449676
I don't understand what makes people think Griffith would just suddenly stop being Griffith and go against everything that makes him Griffith. The IoE section literally only existed to prove that Griffith was not just "manipulated" into becoming a member of the Godhand and that he had a degree of agency in it too. He made this choice when given the choice to do *whatever he wanted* by "God," and I think that's meant to be the final say on his character.

>>283448974 (OP)
I see IoE as a manifestation of Griffith's own consciousness, since it exists separate from the Godhand and their individual meddlings. It kind of melds with the fact that what God tells him (that he has free will) is just what Guts already assumed anyway.

>>283449749
>I don't understand what makes people think Griffith would just suddenly stop being Griffith and go against everything that makes him Griffith
It's the opposite really.
Griffith, who resigned himself to his fate, even if he were to conquer the entire world, would inevitably feel inferior to Guts, who stubbornly struggles against it.
Specially since this was a fate that Griffith himself imposed upon Guts through the Brand, which shows him the limitations of the power of the "God" of Berserk's world.

>>283449868
>who resigned himself to his fate
He didn't, though. He didn't make any of his decisions from a position of resignation. He did so through desire: he chose to sacrifice Guts and the rest of the band to punish Guts and he chose to transform into Femto to fly to his kingdom.

>>283449885
That's the point thought.
He resigned himself to his fate that is following his desires while sacrificing his heart to do so.
This is why the "Idea of Evil" is literally a giant human heart.

"What does it profit a man to gain the whole world, yet forfeit his soul?", resumes Griffith's character.

>>283450072
>He resigned himself to his fate that is following his desires
That's an oxymoron.

the idea of humanity is just a cope the weaklings are made to believe by the strongs

>>283450345
I feel like that's a rhetoric trap to claim Griffith was somehow manipulated/resigned to fate no matter what. Yeah, no matter if literally God tells you "do what you want," that's your FATE you were MANIPULATED to do! At what point does the whole concept just become useless to bicker over? When you're given the choice to act as you wish by God it can no longer be called "fate." IoE was not just Griffith's heart, it was literally Griffith talking back to himself, his own eyes staring back at him, giving himself permission to move forward with his decision to become Femto. You can't get more agentic than that.

>>283450413
Also, if IoE does represent Griffith's heart, what does it say about Griffith that he took advice from the very core of it? It becomes very hard to say he rejected or sacrificed his heart when he talked to it and embraced its advice.