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I can't quite put my finger on it but there's something about this anime that bothers me a lot.
Anonymous No.283482829 [Report] >>283487862
>>283482659 (OP)
it's a tryhard boring sol overrated slop which botted to the top on mal by fujoshit enjoyers (f*males)
Anonymous No.283482930 [Report] >>283483046
Maybe your butt hurts.
Anonymous No.283483046 [Report]
>>283482930
From what?
Anonymous No.283483098 [Report] >>283484970 >>283487083
>>283482659 (OP)
Its hands down my favorite anime of the past decade, but I mostly watch 80s mecha shows.
Anonymous No.283483100 [Report] >>283483176 >>283498571
>>283482659 (OP)
there's no black people, which isn't even accurate to medieval europe
Anonymous No.283483149 [Report]
>>283482659 (OP)
It bothers you that it's popular while not having any unsafe horny elements
Anonymous No.283483176 [Report]
>>283483100
There are elves and demons, so it's totally Medieval Europe 100%.
Anonymous No.283483514 [Report] >>283483554
>>283482659 (OP)
It's shit. It's reddit.
Anonymous No.283483549 [Report]
>>283482659 (OP)
>I can't quite put my finger on it but there's something about this anime that bothers me a lot.
The inevitable shilling threads ad nauseam bothers me the most. And it looks like they're already starting.
Anonymous No.283483554 [Report] >>283483650 >>283483819
>>283483514
What the fuck does that even mean? It's not contrarian enough for your special little snowflake incel ass? Go watch Naruto.
Anonymous No.283483600 [Report] >>283483868 >>283486606 >>283487083 >>283488596 >>283489583
>tfw people call this show a reverse isekai
I feel like in order to get Frieren you have to have read a book without pictures before, and it is so apparent that most people here have only read manga.
Anonymous No.283483650 [Report] >>283483715 >>283483716 >>283483819 >>283484457 >>283488555
>>283483554
Naruto is far better than this fujoshit trash. Imagine calling others incel over an obvious reddit tranime.
Anonymous No.283483680 [Report]
>>283482659 (OP)
I like it a lot but the magic system is wishy washy hand wavey bullshit and hurts every plot point it's used for
Anonymous No.283483715 [Report]
>>283483650
I wouldn't know, I have actually never seen or read Naruto because having standards is hard.
Anonymous No.283483716 [Report] >>283484496
>>283483650
What's fujo about it
Anonymous No.283483734 [Report] >>283483855
>>283482659 (OP)
What does the guy do? Does he fuck one if them?
Anonymous No.283483819 [Report]
>>283483554
Naruto also is shit and reddit.

>>283483650
Have you transitioned yet?
Anonymous No.283483855 [Report] >>283483896
>>283483734
he's the punchline to small penis jokes
Anonymous No.283483868 [Report]
>>283483600
I read harry potter
Anonymous No.283483896 [Report] >>283484113
>>283483855
One singular joke
You clearly didn't watch it
Anonymous No.283484113 [Report] >>283485091
>>283483896
doesn't matter, having a small penis is what defines his character
Anonymous No.283484457 [Report]
>>283483650
>Naruto is far better than this fujoshit trash
This is not even b8, just mental retardation
Anonymous No.283484496 [Report]
>>283483716
Main female character probably, incels are pretty basic
Anonymous No.283484557 [Report] >>283484925 >>283485096
>>283482659 (OP)
It is a badly written battle shonen that gets praised as a deep masterpiece
Anonymous No.283484925 [Report] >>283486350 >>283487342
>>283484557
How is it badly written? What do you think is an example of a well written series?
Anonymous No.283484970 [Report]
>>283483098
I hate fat people so much
Anonymous No.283485048 [Report] >>283485137 >>283485161
>>283482659 (OP)
That it feels Ai generated? From story to character design and voice acting.
Anonymous No.283485055 [Report]
>>283482659 (OP)
Anonymous No.283485091 [Report]
>>283484113
You didn't watch it
Anonymous No.283485096 [Report] >>283487083 >>283487098
>>283484557
It's not battle shonen at all. That's like calling Lord of the Rings or Game of Thrones battle shonen. It is just a played for straight fantasy show.
Anonymous No.283485137 [Report]
>>283485048
How so?
Everything in it feels purposeful
Anonymous No.283485161 [Report] >>283485238
>>283485048
A lot of the show is about nostalgia and regret and I don't think an AI is capable of experiencing those things.
Anonymous No.283485238 [Report] >>283485382
>>283485161
>A lot of the show is about nostalgia and regret
No, it isn't
Anonymous No.283485376 [Report]
>>283482659 (OP)
Bad worldbuilding, but that's ok becuase only the biggest mentally ill people care about that.
Anonymous No.283485382 [Report] >>283486413 >>283492332
>>283485238
Maybe I watched a totally different show then? What is the show actually about? Can you recommend an anime that actually focuses on regret and loss?
Anonymous No.283486350 [Report]
>>283484925
It is low quality bait, welcome to shitchan
Anonymous No.283486413 [Report] >>283486721
>>283485382
It is bait, if someone says frieren is badly written is attention seeking
Anonymous No.283486606 [Report] >>283486746 >>283486792 >>283491800 >>283494621 >>283498635
>>283483600
regular books are boring not because there are no pictures but because of the pretentious language they always use. I hate big words and having to look shit up on the dictionary, it kills the immersion and the fact that any book that uses simpler language is labeled as poorly written will keep me away from that medium forever.

>inb4 pseud who brags about reading moby dick in 1 afternoon shows up
Anonymous No.283486721 [Report]
>>283486413
Frierentard cope
Anonymous No.283486746 [Report] >>283486892
>>283486606
You are a functioning illiterate in the same way somebody can be a functioning alcoholic. Congratulations.
Anonymous No.283486792 [Report] >>283486842
>>283486606
I think you just haven't read very many books
Anonymous No.283486807 [Report] >>283486886
>>283482659 (OP)
It's popular?
Anonymous No.283486842 [Report]
>>283486792
Like not everyone has to read David Foster Wallace, but like Pride and Prejudice is still an uncomplicated book that is considered to be a good read. Goddamn, shit is wild.
Anonymous No.283486877 [Report]
>>283482659 (OP)
It's because fern isn't helping shopa pp graduate into adulthood.
Anonymous No.283486886 [Report]
>>283486807
I once waited three hours in line for a Frieren exhibit in Ikebukuro.
Anonymous No.283486892 [Report] >>283486930
>>283486746
90% of people don't read books and they are in higher strata in life that some random 4chan NEET, curious.
Also note I'm only talking about novels/fiction books not actual useful books that students and high IQ people read.
Anonymous No.283486930 [Report] >>283487169
>>283486892
>not actual useful books that students and high IQ people read
What the fuck are you actually talking about?
Anonymous No.283487000 [Report]
>defending illiteracy
What the actual fuck.
Anonymous No.283487025 [Report]
>>283482659 (OP)
Uninteresting characters, bad world building, and mediocre writing are being covered by shallow emotional moments that idiots use to pretend that this is good.
Anonymous No.283487032 [Report]
>>283482659 (OP)
It's because the story keeps trying to present itself as something subversive, cool and different from the traditional isekai that people hate so much, only to end up doing the same thing. From the Tolkien races to the demon villains, and all the other generic tropes it uses to build it's world.
The show starts off as if it's going to be this chill iyashikei adventure, only to immediately shit all over that with a Naruto esque exam arc and jacking off how cool, awesome and badass Frieren is while continually proving her right about everything.
The demons in the show are contradictory and awfully written and not even the fans can even decide what it's trying to go for.
Anonymous No.283487083 [Report]
>>283485096
>>283483600
I read the whole of Malazan, Memory Sorrow and Thorn, Second Apocalypse and many others and Frieren is a 5.5 or 6/10 for me. I appreciate it for what it is, but I’ve seen way better!
>>283483098
Respectfully disagreed as a fellow /m/ enjoyer. Have you seen Bravern btw?
Anonymous No.283487094 [Report] >>283487160 >>283487202 >>283488855
Why do people keep calling Frieren isekai? Who the fuck is traveling to another world in this show? Am I missing something?
Anonymous No.283487098 [Report] >>283487191 >>283491118
>>283485096
No, retard. The show literally begins as if it's going to be an iyashikei adventure, and the immediately goes into a literal chunin exams style arc that takes up the majority of the run time.
Anonymous No.283487160 [Report]
>>283487094
It’s an insult to its setting; namely heavy Dragon Quest influence, worldbuilding and anachronisms.
Anonymous No.283487169 [Report] >>283490359
>>283486930
>claims to be literate
>can't understand what is meant by such a simple statement
typical pseud
Anonymous No.283487191 [Report]
>>283487098
Like how The Hobbit starts as cozy slice of life shit missingin The Shire?
Anonymous No.283487196 [Report]
>>283482659 (OP)
Being popular doesn't mean the quality of the series is bad :D
Anonymous No.283487202 [Report]
>>283487094
Its native Isekai
Anonymous No.283487303 [Report]
>>283482659 (OP)
Because it's popular with a broad range of people and this bothers you because it confuses your narrative of whether you should support it or not
Anonymous No.283487342 [Report] >>283487678 >>283490205 >>283490533
>>283484925
The demons in Frieren are incredibly contradictory and badly written. They don't understand human emotions, and yet their entire modus operandi is manipulating people's emotions? They don't have emotions and yet Lugner got mad about Frieren hiding her mana and Aura cried when Frieren forced her to kill herself? They don't have morals, and yet they think hiding your mana is wrong and they think other demons dying is wrong? They're smart enough to engage in political conversations with other races and yet they don't know what a father is? Nothing about them makes any sense.
Watch, as Frieren fans will attempt to drown me in paragraphs of mental gymnastics, contradictory interpretations and retarded headcanon.
Anonymous No.283487564 [Report] >>283487658 >>283487972 >>283488518 >>283488646 >>283488927
>>283482659 (OP)

People that don´t like Frieren don´t know how to appreciate simplicity in design or are bothered by classicism. These people usually think that in order to be popular something should really stand out by breaking with conventions or having a very unique style or identity. In short they usually think only truly special media should get big and popular.

This is off course presumptuous and preposterous. Well done classic narratives and styles can obviously also stand above mediocrity. Truth be told Frieren is not all that special if one associates being special with complexity. It´s just a very good classic narrative. Good is good, bad is bad, simple designs and high quality production values. The only thing that it does different is that it focus on the moments in between rather than on the big adventure to save the world. It´s a very comfortable story about dealing with loss and regrets and moving forward.

Honestly i´m pretty happy that it´s popular since it´s popularity has opened the doors for high fantasy to make a come back. It´s a light of hope on a market saturated by isekai. If it wasn´t for Frieren we wouldn´t have Dungeon Meshi or Witch Hat Atelier. Think about that.

I also like Frieren for what it is though. I´ll reserve judgment about it being a masterpiece (or not) until it´s done but people saying it´s bad are being ridiculous and contrarian. Those people probably thought Jobless was going to be the fantasy anime of the decade and are just sore their shitty isekai lost.
Anonymous No.283487658 [Report] >>283487967
>>283487564
No. It's badly written. The show keeps trying to take tropes from earlier works like Tolkien's and tries dressing them up to be more complex or interesting, only to revert them back to their simpler form.
Anonymous No.283487678 [Report] >>283487729
>>283487342
>I don't understand nuance and the implication that things can be more complicated than what is exactly stated without the thing I'm told being a lie
Anonymous No.283487729 [Report] >>283487769
>>283487678
>>I don't understand nuance and the implication that things can be more complicated than what is exactly stated without the thing I'm told being a lie
The problem with the idea that this is meant to be more nuanced or a part of Frieren's growth is that the story and narrative have never framed Frieren as being in the wrong for her beliefs on demons no matter how extreme, even despite all the contradictions that have been written. In order to do this, they'd have to 180 the entire audience's perception of her actions up until that point.
Anonymous No.283487769 [Report] >>283487783
>>283487729
Why
Anonymous No.283487783 [Report] >>283488906
>>283487769
Did you not read what I just wrote?
Anonymous No.283487862 [Report]
>>283482829
You never going to be a woman. Give up and do a flip or better yet stream it.
Anonymous No.283487967 [Report]
>>283487658
>Tolkien
lol
Anonymous No.283487972 [Report] >>283488518
>>283487564
Finally, an intelligent post on /a/.
Anonymous No.283488386 [Report]
Another thread full of losers shitting of an anime way better than their fav
Anonymous No.283488489 [Report]
>>283482659 (OP)
Maybe the fact that it's yet another male BAD female GOOD anime.
Anonymous No.283488518 [Report] >>283488680 >>283488781
>>283487972
Intelligent, but flawed.
>>283487564
I do appreciate simplicity. And I think MT is as good as Frieren; neither are particularly good. Frieren simply does not do much with its narrative and themes. It abandons them for a more typical story, while well made, is simply not above your average WSJ entry. Take for instance, the Golden City storyline, that behaves eerily like KnY.
Additionally, Meshi’s and WHA’s productions were entirely unrelated to Frieren’s, and WHA is currently a much worse series than Frieren, not to mention compared to its own beginning!
Anonymous No.283488555 [Report]
>>283483650
This.
Naruto is also shit though.
Anonymous No.283488596 [Report] >>283488643
>>283483600
No, it's a native isekai.
Also Comics aren't real books(Yes even Japanese comics.)
Anonymous No.283488643 [Report] >>283488669
>>283488596
>native isekai
It's a native another world? What goddamn sense does that make? What is the difference between native isekai and fantasy then?
Anonymous No.283488646 [Report] >>283488702
>>283487564
>If it wasn´t for Frieren we wouldn´t have Dungeon Meshi or Witch Hat Atelier
Come on, at least put effort into your bait
Anonymous No.283488669 [Report] >>283488689
>>283488643
Ones a dragon quest ripoff and the other is fantasy.
Anonymous No.283488680 [Report] >>283488737
>>283488518
Is there any series you like sir? Those are the best the genre has to offer you like or not
Anonymous No.283488687 [Report] >>283498409
>>283482659 (OP)
Probably the fact that EVERYONE in the series is autistic. The only time any character shows emotion is when they're doing some gag, otherwise they're blank faced and monotonous.
Anonymous No.283488689 [Report] >>283488730
>>283488669
What makes Frieren a Dragon Quest ripoff?
Anonymous No.283488702 [Report]
>>283488646
Both anime adaptations exist thanks to frieren
Anonymous No.283488705 [Report] >>283488964
>>283482659 (OP)
It's self inserting shit but your self insert is already dead but the girl is still forever in love with him anyway. In other words tranime.
Anonymous No.283488730 [Report]
>>283488689
There is a dragon and they do quests
Anonymous No.283488737 [Report] >>283488837
>>283488680
Why the fuck are you conceding?
Anonymous No.283488753 [Report]
It's a series made with women in mind. This is a feminine show, made for literal trannies and w*men. Enjoying Frieren is synonymous with having low testosterone and high estrogen.
Anonymous No.283488781 [Report]
>>283488518
I have never seen Attack on Titan. Is that a native isekai?
Anonymous No.283488837 [Report]
>>283488737
NTA sorry
Anonymous No.283488855 [Report] >>283488892
>>283487094
Himmel is 100% an isekaijin and is better you accept it sooner than latter.
Anonymous No.283488892 [Report]
>>283488855
>isekaijin
I don't know what this means.
Anonymous No.283488906 [Report] >>283488954
>>283487783
I did read it, I'm just not understanding why you think what you do
Anonymous No.283488927 [Report]
>>283487564
You missed the biggest offense that triggers contrarian tourists, the anime’s sincerity toward emotions. Rejection of sincerity is a survival mechanism for the mentally ill.
Anonymous No.283488954 [Report] >>283489033 >>283489142
>>283488906
Because Frieren is framed as in the right for everything she does?
Anonymous No.283488964 [Report]
>>283488705
friren is the self insert and she's still alive
Anonymous No.283489033 [Report] >>283489074
>>283488954
Yeah, because objective good and evil exist in her world. Her flaws stem from the fact that she doesn't realize what she had with Himmel.
Anonymous No.283489050 [Report] >>283489097 >>283490425
People that shit on frieren are incel losers that dislike women because their life is shit, shounentards that think a slow show with emotions is bad or contrarians that dislike anything popular and watch the show with shit lenses
Anonymous No.283489074 [Report] >>283489136
>>283489033
>Tolkien
lol
Anonymous No.283489097 [Report]
>>283489050
Anonymous No.283489136 [Report]
>>283489074
Yeah, Frieren is an anime with elves and dwarves in it, so he is going to probably get mentioned a lot.
Anonymous No.283489142 [Report] >>283489166
>>283488954
Everything she does to demons, not everything
Anonymous No.283489166 [Report] >>283489232 >>283489249 >>283489296 >>283489303
>>283489142
No, literally everything. Name a single time she's wrong about anything.
Anonymous No.283489232 [Report] >>283489269
>>283489166
Not realizing what she had with Himmel while he was still alive?
Anonymous No.283489249 [Report] >>283489269
>>283489166
She was wrong about what Heiter wanted her around for, literal years of work and research for an obvious lie that she didn't bother to think about
Anonymous No.283489269 [Report] >>283489298
>>283489232
>>283489249
And then the story never challenges her ever again on literally anything.
Anonymous No.283489296 [Report] >>283489493
>>283489166
Her plan with the tracking coins back fires.
Her thinking sleeping with with one eye open would give her time to react against the shadow warrior.
Her thinking Genau raging was a demon.
Her thinking the antique she bought was genuine and she made a good deal.
etc
Anonymous No.283489298 [Report] >>283489493
>>283489269
Her being obtuse about Himmel and how you can't step in the same river twice is the ENTIRE theme of the show.
Anonymous No.283489303 [Report] >>283489493
>>283489166
Mimic
Anonymous No.283489493 [Report]
>>283489298
>Never consequential or leads to anything
>283489298
>Never consequential or leads to anything
>>283489296
>Never consequential or leads to anything
>>283489303
>Never consequential or leads to anything, literally a gag
Anonymous No.283489583 [Report] >>283489618
>>283483600
People who actually read books are the ones who hate Frieren because we recognize it for the derivative, midwit, normalfag slop that it is. Only subhumans like (You), who virtue signal about reading while never having read a book in your lives, enjoy Frieren.
Anonymous No.283489618 [Report] >>283490291
>>283489583
Wow you are so different and special, you read books and hate popular things!!1!
Anonymous No.283489721 [Report]
>>283482659 (OP)
presumably that the personality of basically all of the characters is that they're autistic, and their conversations all sound like business meetings even when they're in the middle of fights. with of course the exception of Stark, that pair of dyke girls, that one loli village leader, and some other background characters. each of whom fits neatly into some equally boring worn out trope.
Anonymous No.283489785 [Report]
>>283482659 (OP)
This show made me realize I needed to take a break from watching anime.
It's been a little over a year since I watched something.
Anonymous No.283490205 [Report] >>283490232 >>283490633
>>283487342
>The demons in Frieren are incredibly contradictory and badly written. They don't understand human emotions, and yet their entire modus operandi is manipulating people's emotions? They don't have emotions and yet Lugner got mad about Frieren hiding her mana and Aura cried when Frieren forced her to kill herself? They don't have morals, and yet they think hiding your mana is wrong and they think other demons dying is wrong? They're smart enough to engage in political conversations with other races and yet they don't know what a father is? Nothing about them makes any sense.

Yeah, I think that's pretty much it. I was feeling there was something off about the anime and I think you might just have pointed out what that was.
Anonymous No.283490232 [Report]
>>283490205
I think it also falls into a bigger problem where the show takes a simple concept from an earlier work, like the irredeemable race and tries to make it seem like it's going to be more complicated and interesting than before, only for it not to be.
Anonymous No.283490291 [Report]
>>283489618
Read the comment I replied to, you illiterate swine.
Anonymous No.283490359 [Report]
>>283487169
>bitches about stilted language
>says "what is meant"
Anonymous No.283490425 [Report] >>283490609
>>283489050

Nobody could possibly dislike it because its just flash clang cube elf cartoon fighting "demons" located in not yurop #12794029-2 version 2.5/16(this time its with the psychological consequences of being an ageless character in a world of people that die of old age) in an already oversaturated market.
Its got to be because there is something wrong with themselves.
Anonymous No.283490533 [Report] >>283490606
>>283487342
>They don't understand human emotions
Their brains operate differently from a normal human's. Their mindsets and behaviors are totally alien.
>yet their entire modus operandi is manipulating people's emotions?
In that they understand appealing to humans in certain ways can bring about desired results. If you ask me, Frieren and Flamme greatly exaggerate a demon's ability to manipulate people.
>They don't have emotions and yet Lugner got mad about Frieren hiding her mana and Aura cried when Frieren forced her to kill herself?
Demons have some emotions, but they don't seem to possess all emotions human do, nor do they understand the emotions they do have.
>They don't have morals
They have demon morals, not human ones.
>They're smart enough to engage in political conversations with other races and yet they don't know what a father is?
This is something I also took issue with. Lugner might have just been sarcastic in his answer to Linie, or maybe it means most Demons don't have any interest in learning anything about humans.
Anonymous No.283490606 [Report] >>283490831
>>283490533
>Their brains operate differently from a normal human's. Their mindsets and behaviors are totally alien.
And yet nothing seems to show this. They operate like they're just sociopaths with a serial killer gene. Everything about them is described as human from the way that they're arrogant or prideful.
>In that they understand appealing to humans in certain ways can bring about desired results. If you ask me, Frieren and Flamme greatly exaggerate a demon's ability to manipulate people.
How do they do this if they don't know what emotions are on a functional level and can't recognize them in other people?
>Demons have some emotions, but they don't seem to possess all emotions human do, nor do they understand the emotions they do have.
How do they do this if they don't know what emotions are on a functional level and can't recognize them in other people?
>They have demon morals, not human ones.
They have very human morality. They think trickery with mana is wrong, and other demons dying is wrong. There's nothing saying that they couldn't just adopt another moral system.
Anonymous No.283490609 [Report] >>283491816
>>283490425
You are watching it throught the shit lenses anon said
Anonymous No.283490633 [Report] >>283490668
>>283490205
0 media literacy
Anonymous No.283490668 [Report] >>283490784 >>283490905 >>283490962 >>283496216
>>283490633
Ever notice how Frieren fans keep trying to insist that this series is super smart? They're not smart enough to recognize that it isn't smart. It's a retard show that managed to hoodwink people into thinking it was some super deep show.
Anonymous No.283490784 [Report] >>283491626
>>283490668
It's the inevitable consequence of tens of millions of normalfags getting into anime during covid. Most of these people are completely without taste or culture, and they've never explored media beyond their safe zone. So for them, Frieren must look like some sort of revolutionary masterpiece. I kind of get it.
Anonymous No.283490831 [Report]
>>283490606
Demons are very simple to understand as they are essentially a take on the concept of "inelligence without true sapience" This however can be difficult to understand for those who posess sapience without true intelligence.
Anonymous No.283490902 [Report]
>>283482659 (OP)
i only liked it due to how hot frieren is.
they really should show more of her.
Anonymous No.283490905 [Report] >>283490952 >>283491626
>>283490668
I don't pretend it's some work of complex genius that you need to be incredibly clever to appreciate
Quite the opposite really, I'm genuinely baffled by how people manage to constantly misunderstand something so simple and straightforward
Anonymous No.283490952 [Report]
>>283490905
The show is the one that tries overcomplicating everything, and yet always retreats back to being simple and straight forward.
Anonymous No.283490962 [Report] >>283491060
>>283490668
Are you talking about eva?
Anonymous No.283490966 [Report] >>283491153 >>283498349
>>283482659 (OP)
One of my biggest gripes is that the characters are just so deadpan 99% of the time. The most emotive person on the series is Himmel and he's dead. It makes sense that Frieren and Serie would be so stoic, but none of the humans should be this hardboiled outside maybe Denken.
Anonymous No.283491022 [Report]
>>283482659 (OP)
It baffles we didnt got a beach episode. I wanted to see Fern's big boobs bouncing while Frieren's little feet touch the hot sand and they become wet ans juicy
Anonymous No.283491037 [Report]
>>283482659 (OP)
its good, watchable even
i look forward to the next release
that said,
>did you know that time happens?
is not quite the heaven sent, profound statement that i believe the writer thinks it is. The first few episodes teetered dangerous close to being preachy by bashing the viewer over the head with that theme
Anonymous No.283491060 [Report]
>>283490962
He must be, there's none of that here
Anonymous No.283491118 [Report] >>283491160
>>283487098
>literally
>literal
>LITERALLY
you talk like a white woman and your shit's all retarded
Anonymous No.283491153 [Report] >>283493108
>>283490966
I didn't mind since most of the characters were people who were at the absolute top of an academic/intellectual field that emphasised control and analytical ability and even IRL these kinds of niggas all tend to be of a "type", The characters that didn't have this trait like Ubel, and Wirbel were regarded as the oddballs of the field so that helped to reinforce the idea.
If anything having characters lock in and deal with the problems in front of them with a kind of maturity instead of just yelling louder at them was a big plus point for the series.
Having characters who are supposed to be leading professionals in their discipline acutally act professionally to an extent was a beath of fresh air compared to most shows.
Anonymous No.283491160 [Report]
>>283491118
I know black men who talk like that
It has nothing to do with the fact that it's stupid, I just felt like mentioning it
Anonymous No.283491315 [Report] >>283491626
The marketing pushed it as a deeply emotional story and its that for maybe 1/3 of the first episode then nothing. Then 7 episodes later it devolves into a naruto tournament arc.
Anonymous No.283491626 [Report] >>283491847
>>283491315
>>283490905
>>283490784
So much of this show was also pushed by right wing reactionaries, especially since Starship Troopers was being used as a political compass test.
Anonymous No.283491633 [Report]
>>283482659 (OP)
>hey what if the same thing we have seen 1835891351385193 times before but with budget this time
I don't know mate.
Anonymous No.283491800 [Report] >>283494671
>>283486606
>it kills the immersion
"it" being your own weak powers of articulation, not the big words
Anonymous No.283491816 [Report]
>>283490609

Watched it thru the same lenses i watch everything else with, results not always the same with other shows, even of the same type. Weird how that works.
You should go back to making it sound like the demons are an allegory for jews, that worked better.
Anonymous No.283491847 [Report]
>>283491626
What does that have to do with anything?
Anonymous No.283492332 [Report] >>283493347
>>283485382
how about you tell us, in your opinion, which anime is the best anime of all time anon?
come on, share with us
Anonymous No.283493108 [Report]
>>283491153
They're just unexpressive and dull.
Anonymous No.283493347 [Report]
>>283492332
Anonymous No.283493471 [Report] >>283493515 >>283493702 >>283494309 >>283496865 >>283497681
>>283482659 (OP)
Sousou no Frieren constantly conflates reminiscence with reflection. While it presents itself as a profound and introspective look into grief, time, and the impermanence of life, it never moves beyond easy nostalgia bait. In place of any genuine introspection or growth, Frieren endlessly dwells on the past. The high quality art, animation, music, and cinematography give the illusion of emotional depth and mask how static and shallow the story really is.
Beyond the first few episodes where Frieren mourns and reflects before deciding to cherish what she has left and reconnect with Heiter and Eisen, she doesn't change at all throughout the entire season. The show falls into the same episodic rhythm:
>Arrive at a new town
>Flashback to Himmel
>Fern acts like the mom
>Stark acts as comedic relief
It becomes formulaic and repetitive while acting as though it is profound. It never develops any of it's themes, it's an endless loop of sentimental reminiscing.
Fern and Stark never progress beyond their initial tropes. It tries during the demon arc and the ballroom dance, but never capitalises on it and regresses back to their original dynamic afterwards.
The second half of the season is boring bureaucracy about magical exams and administration. It introduces even more tropey, throwaway side characters who contribute nothing to the initial themes of the show.
The whole show is visually beautiful but shallow. The constant illusion of being contemplative and mature comes off as pretentious when you drill down and see there is nothing substantive underneath. You could cut half the episodes and lose nothing of substance. It's a sentimental and comfy vibe that appeals to the zoomer's lack of media literacy.
Anonymous No.283493515 [Report]
>>283493471
holy shit something of substance!
Anonymous No.283493630 [Report]
>>283482659 (OP)
Simple. it insists upon itself.
Anonymous No.283493702 [Report]
>>283493471
Are you sure it's not just...
Really slow
Anonymous No.283494309 [Report]
>>283493471
A lot of this comes across as the author trying to seem mature. Such as when the author avoids using any sort of exaggerated facial expressions.
Anonymous No.283494561 [Report]
>>283482659 (OP)
>but there's something about this anime that bothers me a lot.
I guarantee you, if you never interacted with the fanbase or people that use this show for culture war shit, you would think that it's fine
Anonymous No.283494621 [Report] >>283494671
>>283486606
Honestly this bait is so retarded it made me laugh, thanks anon
Anonymous No.283494671 [Report] >>283498126
>>283491800
>>283494621
yes you're very smart anons. As I'm sure your mom has told you many times.
Anonymous No.283495807 [Report] >>283495850
>>283482659 (OP)
I've never come across a manga that required more than three volumes to even get remotely interested! Usually, the most I read is one volume. This is an absolute piece of garbage that takes more time than reading a book just to empathize with and start caring about the characters. It's overrated. If you don't know what bothers you about it, it's simply trash, but you're consuming it anyway.
Even Goblin Slayer did it better, and he actually comes from a novel, unlike Mr. wanna be a book Frieren..
Anonymous No.283495850 [Report]
>>283495807
Goblin Slayer? Seriously?
Anonymous No.283496216 [Report] >>283496333
>>283490668
There might be cases for or against the characterization of demons; what you posted isn't. The greentext is so dumb that it's bait or you do in fact have 0 media literacy for believing it.
To top it off, you do this thing where you completely deflect with "you defended the anime". I'm not sure why nu-posters think this is a gotcha. That's unbelievably shallow tanking the literacy levels further.
Anonymous No.283496333 [Report] >>283496814
>>283496216
Okay, then explain where I'm wrong.
Anonymous No.283496814 [Report]
>>283496333
Chatgpt isn't sentient but it can write text.
Anonymous No.283496854 [Report]
>>283482659 (OP)
it become popular without any stupid gimmicks
it is a slap in the face to shitty anime
Anonymous No.283496865 [Report] >>283496920
>>283493471
Not one Frierenfag had a response to this, because they know it's correct and it makes them seethe.
Anonymous No.283496920 [Report] >>283497102
>>283496865
"Are you sure it's not just really slow?"
Anonymous No.283496959 [Report] >>283496982 >>283497114
Before this ever became an anime this board would sing its praises. Now its 'Le popular thing is le bad im so cynical and based xdd' .Many such cases.
Anonymous No.283496982 [Report]
>>283496959
As is the nature of the thing
Anonymous No.283497060 [Report]
>>283482659 (OP)
The fact that Frieren doesn't have a functional libido despite being the sexiest creature in the world? Yeah, that bothered me too.
Anonymous No.283497102 [Report] >>283497454
>>283496920
The irony is that Frierenfags love to pretend all the jokes about the show are just people "hating", but when presented with actual, substantive criticism, your best response is
>w-well it's just...slow...you just don't like s-slow anime...
Anonymous No.283497114 [Report]
>>283496959
People shit on this before the anime came out too. People consistently complained at how boring the characters were.
Anonymous No.283497140 [Report]
it's slow unlike my fast paced 40chapter shonenshit battle
Anonymous No.283497142 [Report]
Lmao the entire thread is Freirentards either trying and failing to explain how the Demons make any sense or personally attacking people...
Anonymous No.283497173 [Report] >>283497220
>>283482659 (OP)
Frieren the Redditor. Superficially mimics elements of other great stories in order to cynically pander to zoomers who live on social media. The MC is literally an autist who sleeps a lot, has terrible hygeine, lives life without purpose, and struggles to understand emotions, but she's also a badass archmage who destroys everyone in her path, nothin personnel. Oh, and she's a cute elf girl! Sex with cute elf girl who's just like me!
You could not write a more reddit or xitter character if you tried. It's incredibly disingenuous and even narcissistic in a way. Garbage anime, but then again nearly everything made post-COVID has been shit, so it's got plenty of company.
Anonymous No.283497220 [Report] >>283497337
>>283497173
Anonymous No.283497337 [Report] >>283497927
>>283497220
Thanks for proving my point. Take a shower.
Anonymous No.283497404 [Report]
>283497142
you made 200 threads on the topic and you want me to explain again dumb shit like "Aura cries". That's not even an argument. It's stated that demons mimic people. Aura crying proves this wrong...how? Kill yourself.
Anonymous No.283497454 [Report]
>>283497102
Okay fine fine, right you don't get it, that explanation only makes sense when you already think what I think...
How to say this in a way that actually makes sense...
My claim is that the supposed lack of introspection and character growth is really just very slowly paced and understated, and so it's easy to miss that it's happening at all when you're expecting it to be as obvious as the inciting incident
Anonymous No.283497606 [Report]
Every day I check /a/ there's a Frieren thread and they read the exactly same, this show is a real magnet for the "I'm so counter-culture and cool for disliking this" types.
Anonymous No.283497681 [Report]
>>283493471
at least its not as bad as shaman king. god that fucker needed a strict editor
Anonymous No.283497927 [Report] >>283498007
>>283497337
you're mom doesn't like when I shower
Anonymous No.283498007 [Report]
>>283497927
That's just because she wants all the hot water to herself
Anonymous No.283498031 [Report]
>open thread
>frogs
>jaks
>twitter screencaps
>reddit screencaps
Anonymous No.283498126 [Report] >>283498494
>>283494671
Anon, please read this and tell me if you're too illiterate to get it
Anonymous No.283498257 [Report]
>>283482659 (OP)
Because it's good and popular?
Anonymous No.283498349 [Report]
>>283490966
i think anime overacting has rotted your brain.
Anonymous No.283498409 [Report]
>>283488687
Counterpoint/example: everyone is giga autistic in dungeon meshi but that never seems to be brought up as a fault.
Anonymous No.283498494 [Report] >>283499107
>>283498126
I mean that's something written in 19th century England so I can excuse some of the language but if some faggot pseud wrote any of this a modern book

>Michaelmas term
>Fog drooping on the gunwales of barges
>Fog creeping into the cabooses of collier-brigs
Expecting me to know what the fuck any of that means then I'll throw the book into the trash
Anonymous No.283498571 [Report] >>283498620
>>283483100
Shalom
Anonymous No.283498620 [Report] >>283498706
>>283498571
I'm pretty sure that was a joke
Anonymous No.283498635 [Report] >>283498701
>>283486606
Pffffftttttttahahahahahahah, this has to be one of the top 5 most American posts ever written on the entire site
I sure hope it’s bait, or your IQ is likely similar to a somalian
Anonymous No.283498701 [Report] >>283498797
>>283498635
Show me a photo of the books you own or your goodreads account. Let's see the stuff that you actually read or do you just pretend to read so people won't think you have no personality?
Anonymous No.283498706 [Report]
>>283498620
It’s impossible to tell anymore, I just assume bad faith until proven otherwise
Yes, it’s tiresome
Anonymous No.283498797 [Report] >>283498907
>>283498701
>post a picture of your 5 meter long family library filled with books in a foreign language (some French, some English) so I can shitpost further
You already concluded I have no personality, what’s the point
I just replied because your post is sincerely baffling
Anonymous No.283498907 [Report]
>>283498797
>Asking a question is the same as making a conclusion.
Woah so many literate book readers in this thread. Maybe you should try actually reading something from your dad's library, son.
Anonymous No.283499107 [Report] >>283499317
>>283498494
It’s called broadening your vocabulary. These terms aren’t even that hard and probably don’t take any time to search up
Anonymous No.283499317 [Report]
>>283499107
That's why I originally said I didn't like reading those books because I don't enjoy interrupting my reading to search for terms I'm not familiar with. I'd rather just read non-fiction books or light novels that don't have such obscure language for the sake of it.