Thread 283577134

What does this mean for the industry? https://x.com/animationbiz_jp/status/1983837725003530647

>>283577134 (OP)
Nothing good, just like xitter threads on /a/

>>283577143
well it's just the cover of the info, there's the direct link to the article https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000026.000017625.html

Reminder to anyone in this thread: "Foreigners" does not mean westerners. Chinese, Koreans, SEA. Their numbers assuredly outdoor America and Europe.

>>283577134 (OP)
More garbage anime that tries not to hurt foreigner sensibilities. Especially burger and chink ones.

Why can't OP spell?

Holy shit learn English, ESL

>>283577172
Accorfing the stats, mayor increses zones of legal consume we're:
-South east asia
-India
-Latin America

Weirdly Europe consume decrese and USA consume mantain stable growing a bit.

>>283577184
>>283577188
Sorry lads, i try my best u_u, kisses from east evrope

>>283577206
kill yourself, faggot

>>283577161
>"The overseas anime market is growing larger than the domestic anime market. The user distribution of SmaPoke is also seeing significant growth in overseas share, with Indonesia, Japan, Nigeria, the Philippines, Vietnam, India, Bangladesh, and the United States. "

Is anime brown people coded?

Yeah, certified kuso thread. Clean it up.

>>283577222
:-(
(i am bocchi)

>>283577225
go back to africa

>>283577134 (OP)

I understand you fear this could mean studios may feel more inclined to westernize their productions to fit the international demographic but doesn´t it actually means the opposite? Many of us watch anime precisely because western media has become unwatchable and want something different.

Luckily westernized "anime" only manages to achieve circumstantial popularity. Like Edge Runners, it was hot stuff when it came out but it is no longer relevant and i don´t think it´s on anyone´s top 10 or top 20 except people that have seen very little anime and have no frame for comparison.

China may be able to satisfy that demand instead of japan but most of what they make is cheap CGI looking stuff... Maybe Korea will jump on that train, they have that weird cultural mixing going on already.

Japan should just keep doing what´s always done. If it ain´t broken don´t fix it. Specially considering KnY movie became such a success. I still can´t believe something so basic and shallow is more successful than ghibli or anime author movies like Mamoru Oshii or Satoshi Kon (no, actually i can totally believe it)

>>283577134 (OP)
That slum from 2007-2014. Collapse really hit the anime economy.

>>283577278
>I understand
Lying cunt

>>283577134 (OP)
Just more foreign influence when making market decisions. It shouldn't be a problem as long as it's not influenced by english speaking countries.

>>283577134 (OP)
more censored slop

>>283577134 (OP)
That the Chinese can probably grape the shit out of the Anime industry by cutting off Japan from the market in favor of homemade chinkslop.
Like just cut out the Japanese studios from the middle and have writers go directly to the Chinese sweatshops the Japanese outsource to.

They set themselves up for another 1990's crash.

>>283577134 (OP)
The same thing it meant for the games industry.
A sanitized product with none of the things that originally made it stand out in the first place.
Better archive all the loli anime while you can.

>>283577134 (OP)
It's just the yen falling like a rock

>>283577954
*it's effectively like they were able to raise prices by 40% in all foreign markets and consumers didn't slow down at all

Nuke China

>>283577134 (OP)
i wont consider movies part of this graph

the chinese are mastering the art of anime slop. genshit is only the beginning, in decade or so japanese will be animatong for xi jing ping studios

cool. how's the yen doing?

>>283577989
I am genuinely fucking sick of China and India. Get your own websites in your own fucking language instead of shitting up Western ones with just piss fucking poor English. 4chan is a copy of 2ch for people who don't speak Japanese. It isn't hard to make a version of 4chan in Mandarin, but your entire culture is fundamentally uncreative due to years of strict government oppression.

>>283578233
China is going to be slaughtered in the next 10-15 years. First by a war at sea, they'll lose to America, and then by crippling sanctions. It's over for them.

>>283578249
https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/USDJPY/

>>283578233
Nobody cares about Genshit these days grandpa. How about they try and make something new and original?

>>283578294
You're mentally ill.

>>283578344
China's government is too oppressive and India is just too fucking backwards.

>>283577134 (OP)
If the overseas market increased when yen is weak doesn't that mean more yen for them?
Or it increased because the yen was weak?

>>283577134 (OP)
It means western tv shows are so far in the shitter that dogshit quality modern anime is somehow better. Fucking bleak.

>>283578357
No, I am an American. The two are very similar.

>https://youtu.be/oMNuEUQpsxw?si=Ezbkw-MIraKyCJ1f
Remenber when Pokemon was Japanese and they ate rice balls and shit? Now it is just a generic product.

>>283577134 (OP)
>2005-12
Why did it fall off during that period?

>>283577134 (OP)
95% of anime is already slop, so probably nothing.

Watching China just fail at soft power compared to Japan and S. Korea has been hilarious.

>>283577134 (OP)
So lowering the quality standards and shtiting out anime for faggots and retards worked out really well for them.

>>283577172
So what? A foreigner is a foreigner

>>283577195
>Europe consume decrease
Europe's peak of anime consumption was years ago, before a lot of people here were even alive really.
As for America, it only recently hit its peak and will be declining soon.

>>283577134 (OP)
>>283577161
https://www.tdb.co.jp/report/industry/20251105-anime25y1-9/
But two anime production companies went bankrupt, and six suspended or closed operations or were dissolved, resulting in a total of eight companies exiting the market

>>283578422
Yeah man, that happened like, before you were born.

This chart is about revenue, not profit. Even if overseas sales hit 2 trillion yen, only about one tenth of that, roughly 200 billion yen, actually comes back to Japan as profit.
That’s why the Japanese anime industry still cares way more about domestic fans than overseas ones.

>>283577172
Money is money
What seem to be the problem?

Lots of coping in here, eh?

>>283577134 (OP)
meanwhile Kadokawa...

>>283579166
>Keeo saturating market with isekai
>wonder why its blown up

>>283579058
I was born in 1989 you retard. I remember dial up internet.

>>283577278
>westernize their productions to fit the international demographic
Is that what Hollywood is doing by censoring shit in China and always considering how certain movie plots might be received in other countries? You know the biggest growing markets are in Asia and not the West. What is most likely going to happen is there coming out more and more high production shounen movies instead of more niche stuff catering to the tastes of otakus (we will still get the usual slop, but good movies that don't cater to the lowest common demoninator are only going to become even rarer).

>>283577134 (OP)
assuming you are trying to fearmonger "Censorship"

It wont, if it surpassed it, means is already in the working and nothing needs to be added / or removed.

>>283577134 (OP)
>>283577225
>What does this mean for the industry?
It means that shonenslop will continue to reign supreme because I'm from south asia and can confirm that no one here seems to like anything in the medium beyond that.

>>283577172
Thank you I was going to say: India, but obviously China and the rest of SEA is huge.

>>283579537
You mean Battle Shounen?
Because i dont think ME would like any SoL

>>283579211
Don't acting like you're oldfag when everyone can tell that you're newfag

>>283579831
Don't act like you speak English when your verb tense is super fucked holy shit you sound like you are having a pulmonary aneurysm.

>>283578344
What do you mean nobody cares about Genshin?

>>283578450
>rapid rise in internet usage and piracy
>weird transitionary period for physical media (bluray killed dvd and then itself in the usa)
>if you wanted to watch a series that wasnt already licensed in english you had to go to fansubs/scanlations and then got sucked into that ecosystem
>box sets were expensive and jewed to hell and back
>tankobon were hard to find if you werent in a big city
>anime was seen as annoying kids doing the naruto run or pervert pedophilia, nobody was willing to be seen with merch
those are the biggest factors but these things affected all digital media, music industry still hasnt recovered.

>>283578296
You couldn't even handle Russia with its pathetic economy but you have the audacity to threaten China which is much stronger, kek.

>>283580499
the usa hasnt fought russia thoughbeit

>>283580647
Neither they will ever fight China directly, because all they are capable of is it to bomb some underdeveloped shitholes, that do not pose any real threat to them.

>>283580845
Can't wait for the chinks to fofo. America made that shit hole country wealthy and relevant.

>>283577134 (OP)
anime has been shit for the past decade
All this means is that is about to get worse
For anyone who watched anime before 2012, this means it will have less things that made you fall in love with anime

>>283579187
Kadokawa only has a handful of fantasy anime. Other publishers are far more aggressive in that market.

>>283580883
i highly doubt anime will have less hype moments and aura

>>283580895
>Other publishers are far more aggressive in that market.
Don't they own the rights to like 85% (or even more) of all isekai titles on the market?

>>283580947
What is aura?

>>283577195
Only euros that watch anime are the french

>>283580947
off yourself zoomie

>>283577195
all of those are relatively alright compared to the west.

>>283580986
They own Narou and Kakuyomu but that doesn't mean they have the rights to everything and definitely not that they animate that much. This season the only fantasy series they do are Hahanoha, Kakuriyo, Isekai Quartet and Nageki no Bourei, which is mainly a Micro Magazine series.
The rest is by publishers like Overlap, Earth Star, Alphapolis, Koodansha, Hakusensha, Hobby Japan or Square Enix.
If anything Kadokawa is too conservative when it comes to adapting fantasy and losing money as a result.

>>283579870
>ESL lecturing other people on how to speak English

>>283577134 (OP)
There may be concern for censorship considering China and South Korea are both very censor happy and dislike boobs and blood, so sponsors might try to pressure studios into toning down certain content so they can better sell mainstream series to wider audiences

That said, it's hard to tell what the real impact would be since both hardcore otaku and studios themselves tend to be strongly anti-censorship and have historically strongarmed sponsors and broadcast to get away with the most stuff possible

I wish western studios, creators and fans were as stubbornly in favour of free expression as Japanese ones

>>283577134 (OP)
It's Japan's birth rate decline catching up with them.
No kids, nobody to consume media. Adults are too busy to enjoy them, and NEETs in Japan don't get gibs unless they live with their parents.

>>283581239
>It's Japan's birth rate decline catching up with them.
>No kids, nobody to consume media. Adults are too busy to enjoy them, and NEETs in Japan don't get gibs unless they live with their parents.

That's pretty much all the fucking first world countries right now if you are not a mini state that works to louder money.

>>283581945
I really doubt any of the other first world countries are working 14 hours a day.

>>283581945
Can you just type in your native language and I can maybe use auto translate? What the FUCK does "working to louder money" mean? Are you having a stroke? Do you smell burnt toast?

>>283582023
Nibba

>>283582087
And yet Japanese workers keep complaining about black companies. It's really hard to believe your shitty chart.

>>283582023
japs dont work 14 hour days, they work 8 hours then stay in the office for an extra 3 hours to look dedicated in front of their boss then they spend another 3 hours kissing their bosses ass at a restaurant or karaoke bar

>>283582061
No.
Kill yoursellf.

>>283582087
>Spain
>Portugal
>Italy
>fucking Greece
that's how you know it's fake.

>>283582128
>it's really hard to believe raw stats when you have the anecdotal evidence of some rando
???
ok

>>283582181
Unironically better than 97% of the life int he global south.

>>283582128
>>283582192
that dude cropped out the source so the graph is bullshit by default but you can go ahead and look up annual work hours by country and japan never cracks the top 10 in any assessment

>>283577134 (OP)
Nothing, this isn't anything new.

>twitter screencap thread
Ninbros

>>283582308
matter of perspective i guess
ive never seen a mexican be as depressed as i am when corporate managers talk to me about fucking nothing for an hour and then lay off half the office and make me pick up the slack

>>283577134 (OP)
Japanese people either has shit taste, or has been focused on gacha shit far too long to the poit it's affecting the anime industry

>>283577195
Latinamercians don't pay for anything.

>>283582717
>ive never seen a mexican be as depressed as i am when corporate managers talk to me about fucking nothing for an hour and then lay off half the office and make me pick up the slack

You don't meet them enought, there's the concept godines that's pretty much that.

>>283578233
>chinese will surpass anime and manga, by completely copying animes style and passing it off as its own
this is why china hasnt produced anything of cultural notoriety since they traded kung fu movies (that were hong kong made mostly anyway) for the most blatant propogandist slop that doesnt even look cool.

>>283577134 (OP)
nothing. you fags fearmonger with this shit every single year

>>283584057
t. blind man that can't see all the censorslop that's been pumped out since covid