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Will Japan ever make a modern day anime of the nuclear bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Or is it just too sensitive a topic?

It might be too sensitive for people who don't have personal experience with and trauma from it to be seen as doing it justice.

>>283641566 (OP)
The Japanese right-wing want Japan to have nuclear weapons and anime is run by right-wingers, both in the fandom and the creative side

>>283641566 (OP)
seems boring since you already know whats going to happen

>>283641566 (OP)
They do all the time, it's just covert

>>283641566 (OP)
What's weirder is I never see an anime or manga that celebrates 20th century imperial Japan. I assume there'd still be a lot of holdouts romanticizing the era, or are they also the same conservative types who think of it all as childish degeneracy?

>>283641566 (OP)
I think that's something most of the entertainment industry would sooner just avoid unless you were really shooting for something.

>>283643113
They cannot celebrate it because Imperial Japan is associated with Emperor worship and the current Emperor keeps on telling people that no, he absolutely does not want to return to Imperial Japan. And for good reason - being an Emperor means to be a hostage, locked away from the outside world and only allowed to socialize during religious ceremonies

If he receives political power, it means that his personal life becomes even more restrained than it currently is. He absolutely hates being reduced to a tourist attraction

>>283643113
Does Golden Kamuy count? It's set in the early 1900s

>>283642628
They're certainly free to try.

>>283641566 (OP)
They have already done a lot of anime about the ww2 and the bombs
They wont do anything modern since zoomers dont like that

>>283641566 (OP)
>Will America ever make a modern day cartoon of 9/11? Or is it just too sensitive a topic?
This is how dumb and stupid you sound.
>a thread died for this

>>283641566 (OP)
Japan is pussies about their history.

>>283643360
I watch that.

>>283643360
>Will America ever make a modern day cartoon of 9/11?
I'd watch that. That sounds pretty funny.

>>283643113
Like most chud material, it's celebrated by dog whistles. Many Japanese otakus wish to be born during the empire to have a harem of comfort women and the closest they have is isekai

>>283643352
Japan is America's only ally in the region and mainly because Japan is afraid of all its neighbours taking revenge for WW2. Even worst Korea is currently flirting with China

>>283643305
Makes sense, also makes it even harder than it already is for me to know what modern Japanese really think about things so it's a shame in that respect.
>>283643351
Is it just the backdrop or is there some kind of political messaging present too?

>>283643383
well yeah that explains why GATE was so popular, not to mention the author is an unabashed far right nationalist

>>283641566 (OP)
>>283641675
>>283642628
There are plenty of good movies already on this topic and even one with it made not too long ago. Why would you want another one?

>>283641566 (OP)
I remember that very good movie, In this corner of the world was pretty recent.
I guess you don't see that many is because they're not chained to their dark past like Germans with the nazis or Americans with slavery.

>>283641566 (OP)
TENNO HEIKA BANZA---AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!

>>283641566 (OP)
Will America make a modern day cartoon of the Korean war?

>>283643360
>Will America ever make a modern day cartoon of 9/11? Or is it just too sensitive a topic?
>This is how dumb and stupid you sound.
It would actually be a legit question...
If 9/11 was done by some outsider force during times of war of course. Last I checked Japan didn't bomb itself to lose the war on purpose.

>>283643305
Never heard that take, really interesting.

>>283643113
The foundational anime industry was made up of a bunch of failed and bitter ex-student far-left revolutionaries. So anime has a long tradition of being much further left politically than Japanese culture as a whole. This included a general distaste for Imperial Japan not just for being a right wing fascist state, but the very same people who had ruled it had been the people who had crushed those student revolutions that all the anime boys had been a part of in the 60's after the the US had put them back into power (also explaining the anti-American vibes you see in a lot of old anime, the creators had a personal axe to grind against both). This has only recently started to fade away as all those old geezers die off or retire. So you're only just now seeing more young animators play with the era. But conversely they now have to deal with the fact that Anime is no longer only consumed in Japan (outside a few outliers like Dragonball or Pokemon), but everywhere, which means it's uncouth to make a work that touches on the era. This is why the "Taisho Era" has become such a popular setting in the last decade. It allows the author to set something in the Imperial era but sidestep all those tricky issues like "Genocide" and "Fascism" by saying "Oh I'm not setting it in the icky nasty Showa Era, this is Taisho, absolutely no world wars to see here no siree."

>>283641566 (OP)
Everyone who was around for it is fucking old and no longer relevant in the industry

>>283643711
The founders of Gainax all had some obvious nationalist sympathies.

>>283642628
>anime is run by right-wingers, both in the fandom and the creative side

>>283642672
This. I can't count the number of times an anime used some "destructive effect resulting in mushroom cloud" to show the audience that shit just got real.

If anything, reference to Hiroshima/Nagasaki would stand out to Westerners MUCH mor than something MUCH more influential to Japanese culture, like famine.

>>283643749
That was ages ago. Anime shifted from far left to far right

>>283643749
What political bent do younger creators (those born after 1980) have nowadays?

>>283643749
>the palestinian issue
Meanwhile Tomino outright states that even back then he was utterly allergic to all the leftist student horseshit after seeing how they acted like cunts during his uni days.

>>283643794
Do you stop being a Christian when stop going to church?

>>283643113
anime and manga were gatekept by leftists in the past
lots of boomer animators and mangaka were unironic commies

>>283641566 (OP)
They should make a modern day anime about 9/11, but instead of making world trade center the main topic, it should be about the four million arabs the burgers killed in revenge. That's the main tragedy of the whole thing after all.

>>283643711
>But conversely they now have to deal with the fact that Anime is no longer only consumed in Japan (outside a few outliers like Dragonball or Pokemon), but everywhere, which means it's uncouth to make a work that touches on the era.
This is what I was missing, now it's adding up.
What about manga though? Is it the same story or is their industry wide and accessible enough to present everyone?

>>283643749
So.. Zeon has a right to defend themselves?

>>283643791
Far right. Too far in the right even for the Japanese far right

>>283643785
Not at all, Gundam still really is the best example of how progressive the industry is

>>283641566 (OP)
They deserved it

>>283643853
Miorine and Suletta never kissed, had no development and no on-screen wedding. To be fair, that was more American liberalism than old school class struggle. There was some comment about the militar complex but it was surface level

>>283641566 (OP)
That's like asking if America will ever make a modern day cartoon of 9/11, except it's two entire cities instead of two towers.

What if they did an anime about 9/11 but they got the facts wrong and did a colony drop on the twin towers?

>>283643749
>anti-japanese anthology by by various foreigners (Galbraith, Kamm, Shen Lien Fan, Freedman, Thiam Huat Kam) with only four japanese names and the only one that was ever actually involved in the otaku scene is one essay touching on it briefly by Okada Toshio.

>>283643810
He never was a political leftist in the first place and has multiple rants about ideologues.

>>283643974
Everything is anti-Japanese so long as it disagrees with you, you disingenuous piece of slime. Kill yourself.

>>283643974
You’re pulling that anti-Japanese bit out of your ass because you’re another butthurt neonazi pedophile tourist who can’t deal with otaku media being overwhelming leftist

>>283644040
To be fair, otaku media was ovewhelming leftist but now it's made and consumed by chuds

>>283642628
>>283643711
>>283643749
Leave your amerimutt left/right (both kike lovers) shit when talking about Japan

>>283644060
Not at all, that’s why your animegate circlejerk is limited to online gutters like this while the actual community and the artists remain overwhelmingly progressive.
There aren’t anime being made that promote right wing ideas.

>>283644037
>>283644040
>w-we're definitely not anti-japanese
>1. 'Otaku' Research and Anxiety About Failed Men Patrick W. Galbraith
>4. Traversing Otaku Fantasy: Representation of the Otaku Subject, Gaze, and Fantasy in Otaku no Video Shen Lien Fan (University of Utah, USA)
>7. Train Man and the Gender Politics of Japanese 'Otaku' Culture: The Rise of New Media, Nerd Heroes and Consumer Communities Alisa Freedman (University of Oregon, USA)
>10. 'Otaku' as Label: Concerns over Productive Capacities in Contemporary Capitalist Japan Thiam Huat Kam

>failed men
>Otaku Subject, Gaze
>Gender Politics of Japanese 'Otaku' Culture
>'Otaku' as Label: Concerns over Productive Capacities
Yes, very pro-japanese stuff.

>>283644081
Kill yourself back to /pol/, you neonazi pedophile

>>283644127
Pedophiles catching strays, geez

>>283644081
>american education
WE ARE ASHITA NO JOE

>>283644110
You're supposed to put forth an argument after giving a citation. All you did was list a table of contents.

James Cameron wants to make a movie about that guy that survived both nuclear bombings.

>>283644037
>>283644040
>>283644060
>manga and anime was always leftist!
Literally only Miyazaki is notable for it and he disavowed leftism back in the 80s over ideological animation disgusting him. (calling Suzuki a leftist is quite funny considering he's considered something of a cutthroat businessman who is alleged to mistreat the, mostly female, employees and embezzles company money into his thai mistress at that)
Or why modern day libshits like yourselves censor old manga and anime in modern adaptations including the recent Doraemon?
Incidentally most of the people you illiterate morons dub leftists are nationalist-aligned, like most from old Gainax.
Animators at the time were largely apolitical outside of obvious outliers as would be obvious to you if you'd actually listened to any.
Manga even more so with the biggest political movements were getting censorious blowhards off their backs.

>>283644110
What about any of that is anti-Japanese?

Can someone bring up that video showing all those big name manga creators being nationalists, holocaust doubters/deniers or being friends with people like that? I had it saved but I can't find it.

>>283644206
You have all this cope because you can’t actually point at any anime that promote right wing ideals. Even today it’s all leftist progressivism. Anti-racism is completely standard and unquestioned. Capitalism is portrayed as an arcane torture machine that erases parents from existence. Queer people are respected and their harassers portrayed as petty, evil people. Women are shown to be equally human and equally capable to men.

>>283644266
>You have all this cope because you can’t actually point at any anime that promote right wing ideals.

Will Japan ever make an about the rape of Nanjing?

>>283643623
>Last I checked Japan didn't bomb itself to lose the war on purpose.
Funny you should mention that, because this was actually a plot point in a manga. I forgot which one it was, but it had Not-Abe. Japan apparently made a deal with the US back in WW2 to get nuked and surrender without fighting.

>>283644266
lmao so you don't actually watch anime at all
Could have just said that and saved us all some trouble

Why does Japan have to do it? Can't your own country produce a couple films about nuking Japan?

God, that's why we can't have these threads. People here are too immature.

>>283644357
China just made a movie about Unit 731, closest you'll get

>>283644431
Hollywood doesn't even make WW2 movies anymore unless it's another boring holocaust drama slop

They will never make one. Japan's greatest ally the US of A would be sad otherwise

You all realize your arguing with that tankie that spams "Tomino is a leftist" with paragraphs and paragraphs of psycho babble for years right? This person is very mentally ill lol, they are a lolcow on the farms too.

>>283644551
But Tomino is a leftist. You don't have to be a tankie to see that.

>>283644585
You’re talking to a tourist that has literally never even watched a Gundam series lol

>>283644585
Tomino is a fellow chud, a beautiful chud too. He is a senile boomer incel as well with his very misogynistic remarks on women.

>>283644585
Even a single word of Tomino's views on women would get him excluded from every single leftist movement.
Pic related is him explicitly citing leftist hypocrisy on the nuclear bombings as shocking him to the point that he actively rejected ideological elements in his animation work.

>>283644463
I completely memoryholed this, has to be the single most bafflingly stupid and cruel act of war I've heard of.

>>283644551
My life isn't nearly as boring to know who a certain anon is or who is a lolcow on the farms

>>283644632
>>283644618
Oh no no no

>>283643749
I’m rooting for Palestinians, but I am a White nationalist and don’t want them in White countries

>>283644632
wtf

>>283644685
Can you cite an anime that supports white supremacism?

>>283644708
K-on

>>283644618
>>283644632
Is Gundam a work devoid of ideology? Is this what you're trying to say?

>>283644742
Gundam is anti war, that's it. If you add left or right wing messages you look like a retard desu.

>>283644716
See, you have to shitpost because you can’t actually do it while I can zip off a list of anime that promote anti-racism like FMA, Eureka Seven, Gundam, etc.

>>283644768
Based Tomono being anti jewish

>>283644786
I fail to see how this is anti-Jewish

>>283644742
No Tomino’s Gundam is highly ideological with the entire newtype complex and all sorts of variations on colonialism/imperialism/fascism being critiqued alongside neoliberalism.

>>283644647
That's because decent chunks of it is obvious atrocity propaganda played-up for modern day political reasons by certain surrounding countries.
Unethical experiments involving torturous treatment of prisoners yes, but there's not much evidence of many of the things claimed about it like operating on fellow doctors and nonsense like that more like making use of inmates to do autopsies. The most damning stuff we know about is the frostbite and dizzy spell experimenting on people.
If you actually go and read up on it you find lots of claims about why there's hardly any japanese evidence at all (the evil japanese silenced the witnesses! ignore that basically all our main witnesses were people from the unit), most of the evidence is US reports and the more dubious stuff is simply waved away with "the japanese destroyed all the evidence not missing a single one!".

>>283644772
Attack on Titan and Muv Luv, snk ending is where the creator had to be nice instead of go all out.

>>283644832
It’s hilarious that fascist scum will never miss the opportunity to do war crimes denials

>>283644839
Attack on Titan is an antifascist masterpiece lol
Yes, even before the timeskip. Did you forget about the part where they overthrow a monarchy that controlled the people with literal memory alteration on top of their secret police, hidden cults, etc?

>283644849
>fascist scum
go back

>>283644886
>Attack on Titan is an antifascist
probably, I dropped that crap early
>masterpiece
lol, no

>>283644849
>war crime denial
Not at all, you can read the same on jp wikipedia.
They discuss the actual crimes with american sources and which unit 731 member was testifying and to what.
Unlike english wiki which neglects to mention the witnesses and which uses aussie newspaper articles as sources.

>>283644832
It was a yt documentary I watched a while ago so I'm not really sure about the sources and the specifics are fuzzy but what really irks me is the goal in itself of breeding a super bug to throw out in territory Japan themselves wanted to conquer and rule at the cost of of everyone involved including the researchers. They went completely insane for "NIPPON DAI ICHI"

>>283644886
Oh yeah I'll add some more
Gate military dude bro propaganda, The Irregular at Magic High School (explicitly anti commie), Hellsing Ultimate, Tanya (lol), LoGH, Ghost in the Shell, Zipang, Psycho pass, Girls Und Panzer
>Masterpiece
Also I dunno bro your commie friends online call it chud core... you seem to forget the inspiration to snk and it's very much pro fascist. Pure kino too.

>>283644551
He does seem fundamentally retarded and only talks in vague terms so that does seem to be on-point.
Weird that he'd cherrypick Tomino too since he's openly anti his position.

>>283644932
>Girls Und Panzer
hahahahaha
Grasping at straws aren't we?

>>283644932
Remind me what happens in Hellsing again

>>283643113
There are plenty of /pol/ tier manga like that but not really any anime because the anime industry is run by miyazaki's commie union.

>>283644956
>>283644959
Tanks and armies are right wing or something

Have they made an anime about their little day trip into Nanking?

>>283644949
>>283644959
Here's your Blue sky commie friends writing a thesis like 2 months back on SnK being pro fascist propaganda, it was a enjoyable read up.

Attack on Titan is explicitly fascist propaganda
First of all Attack on titan has several probelms which prove that the writer Hajime Isayama has at minimum a fascistic like worldview wheter he knows it or not. Let’s start by dividing the arguments. Even if people claim that the story is “anti-fascist” from the text it’s obvious that it’s anything but that. Let’s start with….

Biological Essentialism

If you want to write a story about why racism is bad then making those racial differences essential to someone’s genetics is a really bad choice. Eldians are genetically different in the story which unintentionally provides arguments either for segregation in the defense of marleyans or supremacy as eldians have powers no other race had.
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Don't shoot the messenger

Most anime directors nowdays are either born post WWII or end of Soviet Union era... they mostly ignored geopolitics stuff and make things that appeals to current otaku vibes.

OVA or V-Cinema boom in 80's or late 90s did flesh out modern political stuff with anime flair.

>>283645003
2. Historical and Political Parallels

2.1 Allegory and Historical Revisionism

Isayama’s allegory between Eldia and Japan is too pointed to ignore. Paradis Island resembles post-WWII Japan, an island nation “humiliated” and forcibly demilitarized by outside forces. The narrative repeatedly stresses the idea that individuals should not be blamed for their “ancestor’s crimes”, a sentiment that mirrors Japan’s ongoing reluctance to fully confront its imperial past. To this day, Japan denies or minimizes many of its wartime atrocities and celebrates known war criminals who by the way were never punished. In this light, the show’s attempt to distance individuals from collective guilt reads less like a moral stance and more like an implicit defense of historical revisionism.

The far-right across the globe accuses the “Left” that they want to “punish” people for the crimes of western/japanese colonization. In reality they (the Left) just want to tell the truth about X country’s former or current crimes, while the nationalists would never talk about the crimes of colonialism. Plus never in history was the subjugation of a people justified with “your ancestors oppressed us so you deserve it now”. It was always a “we’re bringing culture/civilization to you” or “we’re superior to you”.
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>>283641566 (OP)
Stuff like that was made to remind the younger generations how good they have it now thanks to the sacrifice and hard work of the older generations. Doesn't really apply to today's youth.

>>283645021
2.2 The Fifth Column Myth

Far-right movements across the globe often propagate the myth of a “fifth column”—internal traitors secretly undermining the nation. In reality, these claims are usually unfounded and serve to scapegoat minorities or political opponents. Yet, Attack on Titan gives this conspiracy theory a factual basis within its world: Paradis is ruled in secret by the Reiss family, and Marley by the Tybur family. These elites manipulate their nations from the shadows, confirming the paranoid narratives ultranationalists often rely on. This is akin to a fantasy where the Rockefeller family is revealed to control the entire United States. Side note: i know that the Tybur family haven’t caused the wars of Marley but still they were the de facto ruling family of the Empire.

2.3 The “Stab-in-the-Back” Myth

The infamous “stab-in-the-back” myth in post-WWI Germany, blaming Jews and socialists for the nation’s defeat has become a hallmark of fascist propaganda. Although it’s not like far-right germans were the only ones with this propaganda tool, ultranationalists across the globe have their version of “stab in the back myth” when they lost a war. And guess what did Isayama wrote into the story? King Karl Fritz and the Tybur family literally orchestrated the fall of the Eldian Empire out of guilt for it’s atrocities. In doing so, they enable the rise of Marley’s oppressive race hierarchy. This retelling suggests that moral introspection and accountability for past wrongs are not only misguided but existentially dangerous. It fuels a narrative where betrayal from within, rather than imperial overreach or systemic flaws, is to blame for downfall.

It doesn’t matter that the Eldian Empire was alredy in internal conflict with the feudal houses, if the King wishes for the restoration of the Empire he can do it with a snap since the Founder is basicly a god. Only with it’s blessing can the marleyans rise up.
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>>283644551
This is a blatant ad-hominem. I'm sure you're going to accuse me of being the guy you're talking about, but let's make it clear.

>>283645034
2.4 The Cycle of Oppression

Nationalist rhetoric often argues that granting rights to the oppressed will lead to a reversal of roles, wherein the oppressors become the oppressed. This fear-mongering is directly echoed in Attack on Titan, where the formerly dominant Eldians are now subjugated by the Marleyans, who were once oppressed themselves. This idea that justice for the marginalized results in tyranny for the majority parallels far-right fears that, for example, postcolonial nations or racial minorities will “turn the tables” on their former oppressors. In a Japanese context, this translates to a paranoid vision in which formerly oppressed Koreans or Chinese would now seek to “oppress” innocent Japanese citizens.

(So far these 4 subpoints are not about wheter or not Isayama portrays these things in a positive or a negative light. It’s about the fact that he choose to even depict these things in the first place which as i’ve alredy mentioned are ultranationalist talking points which have no basis in reality as they have never happened outside their conspiracy theories. But in Attack on Titan they’re apperantly all true.)
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>>283644970
Just to be sure, you mean the Japanese equivalent and not the obnoxious retards down the hall, right?

>>283644930
Sounds like bs considering it's not discussed by the jps, there's some claims back and forth about a local chinese plague being due to them scattering infected fleas based on some report.

>>283645049
2.5 Omitted Themes and the Fascist Social Imaginary

Carl Schmitt, a Nazi political theorist, envisioned a society organized around an absolute division between “us” and “them,” united internally only by the presence of an external enemy. This worldview permeates Attack on Titan. The narrative almost exclusively focuses on ethnic, national, and militaristic conflict. Civil liberties, democratic movements, worker rights, women’s emancipation, and class struggle are conspicuously absent. Even in a story so deeply entrenched in themes of war and survival, the omission of such elements is telling. There is no mention of grassroots activism, democratic resistance, or any viable path toward progressive change. The only Eldian resistance movements are either militant ultranationalists (the Eldia restorationists) or collaborators (Association to protect the subjects of Ymir) who internalize Marleyan propaganda both of which are portrayed as ineffective or morally compromised.

By contrast, real-world liberation movements such as those within the U.S. civil rights era often explicitly rejected both their country’s nationalism (anti-war protests in which many black people refused to serve in Vietnam) and violent revenge in favor of systemic, inclusive change. These complexities are missing in Attack on Titan, making its moral universe disturbingly simplistic.
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>>283645031
lol, younger generations are going to face a future far, far more fucked up than anything in WW2

>>283645064
3. The Philosophical Core: Nihilism as Fascism

Many misunderstand the true philosophical underpinning of fascism. It is not simply a black-and-white morality, but a worldview grounded in social Darwinism the idea that life is a brutal, zero-sum struggle for survival, where violence is not just inevitable but necessary. This belief, inherited from eugenics and turned geopolitical, is fascism’s true core. Or in short: The Law of The Jungle.

Attack on Titan embodies this ideology in its bleak philosophy. The message is not that war and prejudice are good or evil, but that they are inevitable. From Eren’s early speeches to Mikasa about survival (“If you don’t fight, you can’t win”), to Erwin’s chilling monologue about human nature (“We will kill each other until there is one or none left”), the series continually reinforces the belief that violence is an eternal condition. Historia’s late-series reflection suggesting that the cycle of violence between Eldia and the world will continue until one side is wiped out drives this home. Even the epilogue where Paradis is bombed into oblivion reinforces this fatalistic message.

This deterministic view of human history contradicts the findings of modern anthropologists, historians, and psychologists, many of whom argue that cooperation, not competition, is the foundation of human civilization. Yet Attack on Titan offers no meaningful alternative to violence, leaving viewers trapped in a doomerist, fascistic worldview where genocide becomes, if not justifiable, then at least “understandable.”
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>>283645053
nettouyo are obnoxious retards too, you clearly haven't been around them much

>>283645042
He changed up his shtick because no insults really stick. He tried posting screencaps of my posts at one point but everyone just started agreeing with me so he’s moved on to trying to conflate me with historical bogeymen of the board.

>>283645075
Ultra-Nationalist Realism

To be clear, Isayama does not overtly argue that fascism is “good.” Rather, the story presents it as inevitable. This makes Attack on Titan a textbook case of what we could call “ultranationalist realism,” much like Mark Fisher’s “capitalist realism.” Just as Fisher argued that capitalism persists in the 21th century not because people love it, but because they cannot imagine an alternative, Isayama’s narrative suggests that fascist violence is the only conceivable way to survive in a hostile world. An actual anti-fascist story would demonstrate that fascism is avoidable, that cycles of violence can be broken, and that inclusive, democratic societies are possible. Vinland Saga has already done this far more effectively by exploring forgiveness, pacifism, and personal transformation.

By contrast, Attack on Titan offers no hopeful vision, only an endless cycle of ethnic violence, justified through essentialism, historical revisionism, and philosophical fatalism. In doing so, it functions less as a critique of fascism and more as a reinforcement of its core assumptions. I cannot ephasize enough that nihilism is the perfect soil for fascism to grow. AOT’s incredible lack of hope in the narrative actually walks us down to the abyss of ninilism to which if you look down can you see the ugly face of fascism. I think the reason Isayama hasn’t wrote the ending as “and everyone died” is because he too was a little scared of his philosophical worldview’s logical conclusions I.E. fascism/the Law of the Jungle. Because once you accept hopelessness in a cruel world the only choice you have is to start “making sense” of this sensless violence and by the time you realize you alredy started to justify and perhaps enjoy this cruelty as a coping mechanism.

If you want an actually hopeful anime in an incredibly bleak and dark world then watch Orb: On the movements of Earth. That at least knows what hope really is.
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>>283645091
Anyways, SnK is a fascist masterpiece. Your commie buddies agree with me, I appreciate them for making it easier to see why they think it's chud core.

>>283644127
>neonazi pedophile
Easy win for nazis when they can point to the content of their prisons while you have to point away from your leaders.

>>283645106
It’s hilarious that you seethe so much over this stuff that you have a left wing analysis saved to spam when you’re getting owned and need to flood out some nonsense

>>283645150
I am not going to waste my time arguing with a schizophrenic, it's much easier to just ctrl+c, ctrl+v post the stuff your own side believes lol.

>>283645062
The doc also explained in detail how a bunch of info was suppressed by the government and key figures got away by going into the private industry where they were protected. It seemed legit to my bullshit detector at least.
>>283645080
That is the reason I'm curious, haven't heard a peep of anything in all the (relatively short) time I've been consuming anime and manga besides a rise in anti-foreigner sentiment over the past few years.

>>283645185
>your
>own
>side
So this was just a sportsball thing for you all along?

>>283645185
See you have to argue entirely in bad faith because you can’t actually point to an anime that says racism and reactionary ideology are good

Well, plus you’re a tourist who doesn’t even watch anime so you have to rely on others to talk about it for you lol

>>283645252
Ya, I'm not even politically involved. It's just fun to shake the jar of bugs and watch them crash out.
>>283645255
I have watched a lot more anime than you desu

>>283645270
I don’t really think you’ve watched a single anime including Attack on Titan lol

>>283645300
My favorite anime of all time are 0080: War in the Pocket, Prisma Illya, Saekano, Katanagatari, Kodomo no Jikan and Rozen Maiden. What about you?

>>283643401
And they better fuckin' keep it that way if they ain't wanna run afoul of the Big Bandit K.

>>283645335
Only neophytes pick favorites.

>>283645224
>supressed by the local government
lolno, they were protected under the soviets, americans, ccp or they were irrelevant.

>>283645354
I love certain anime, lolis are a big +, I don't like shoujo. Tell me about your favorites?

>>283645374
Couldn't remember which government which is why I didn't actually say local. What you're saying sounds right though.

>>283645354
Yeah, what better way to avoid having to talk about specifics than to claim no favorites. You could get outed as an offsite faggot after all.
Not quoted either.

>>283645354
Holy newfag

>>283645080
>>283645224
Between nettouyos and femis i'll pick nettouyos.
They at least appreciate anime even if they have retards who have to spam write about Korea or the LDP in comments.
Lefti-Femis don't appreciate anything but twitter likes from the worst of westerners.
Thankfully I don't have to pick a side so long as we keep the latter out.

>>283645335
>Saekano

>>283645404
>>283645374
one of the most important things to understand about post-WW2 japan is that their government was never fully dismantled like nazi germany did. they got away with so much shit that made nazis look like saints.

Won't the borderline free for all topic choice the manga industry allows firmly plant it in the left?

>>283645454
I like Maruto, gomenasai

>>283645444
>comparing nettouyos (terminally online right-wing keyboard warriors) to "femis" (whatever this means)
>not comparing nettouyos (terminally online right-wing keyboard warriors) to /pol/chuds (terminally online right-wing keyboard warriors)
Nigger what in the fuck are you saying? Did you fall on your head as a child?

>>283645457
Japan still actively denies comfort women, 731, nanjing and other war crimes. The nazis never left.

>>283645470
It's okay anon. I just fucking hate that anime. You shouldn't actually rope I'm sure you're a lovely person.

>>283645457
No, the best way to understand it is that there are two nations who have political and economic interests in upholding these kind of ideas.
If anything the jp efforts were more thorough, they weren't even allowed their own education textbooks.

>>283645471
Oh, so you don't actually know anything about nettoyous and don't hang on the jp internet. Gotcha.
Not interested in explaining things to faggot posers going on about le pol as if they matter to jps.

>>283645471
You don't know?

>>283644886
>Attack on Titan is an antifascist
Sure
>masterpiece
jesus christ

>>283645457
Denazification in Germany was also a joke and many Nazis went right back into power. America was already controlled by fascists like the Business Plotters so it was standard policy to save fascists for use in postwar power structures whether it be the Gladio network in Italy, the Gehlen organization, or the Reverse Course in Japan. The ANPO treaty itself was signed by a man who went from imperialist war criminal to postwar PM.

Whether leftoids like it or not, Trump won btw.

>>283645483
No, they've actually paid reparations multiple times over. Plebbitors like yourself tend to seethe when people link to the wiki of their several dozen official apologies to Korea for instance.
The most they've said is that new documents fifty years after the fact are no longer a matter for politicians but historians can't keep taking their money and then pretending they never got any.

>>283645529
So true, keep visiting the Yasukuni Shrine you pedophile Nazis.

>>283645541
Are you Korean?

>>283645541
Gook detected

>>283645483
No, they've actually paid reparations multiple times over. Plebbitors like yourself tend to seethe when people link to the wiki of their several dozen official apologies to Korea for instance.
The most they've said is that new documents seventy years after the fact are no longer a matter for politicians but for historians.
It doesn't escape anyone's attention that this is just a vector for anti-japanese feelings and a desire to destroy them through immigration either.

>>283645541
The shrine to all the japanese soldiers from that era you mean?
Clearly they must disavow all who ever fought for their country.

>>283641566 (OP)
Otaku don't actually care about worldly affairs that's why their fiction always reflects fantastical elements even if it takes place in "reality".
If you want ww2 shit try live action films like Tora tora tora! or books.

>>283645553
How do you destroy a country that is already headed toward population collapse? You expect that problem to magically go away?

/pol/ tourists are well versed in right wing talking points but don’t watch any anime

>>283645592
>How do you destroy a country that is already headed toward population collapse?
Oh noooo gdp going down and living becoming affordable how terrible.

>>283645596
I love /pol/ I also love anime.

>>283645596
>n-no u
>n-no I won't say what my favorite anime is because I don't watch any
lmao outed

>>283645604
You should just slam your ass on the keyboard at this point and press Submit, it would actually raise the quality of your posts.

>>283645596
I can't believe you leftypol tards don't watch any anime it's sad.

>>283645631
Why are incels so mad about this population stuff? Is this really what happens when you get no pussy?

>>283645631
>reee no eternal growth is good, we need more people to prop up our pension pyramid scheme who cares if it collapses after we die
Again you're not really selling the danger here.
"Oh no they won't have 127 million people only 120 million how horrible".

>>283645644
Incels? Huh? What? ???????

>>283641566 (OP)
You used to see stuff about the Battle of Sekigahara in the 90s, but you don't see that anymore...

>>283645650
You know a society stops being one once it stops having children right?
So the japan you love might dissappear in your lifetime once the elderly dies

>>283645693
I guess China, South Korea and Taiwan will soon disappear as well, sad.

>>283645668
The losers who obsess over population decline, replacement, and other such bullshit that’s just a proxy for being a frustrated piece of shit

>>283645713
Anon you sound schizophrenic, what are you even talking about?

>>283645693
>You know a society stops being one once it stops having children right?
And the less top-heavy it is the more likely they are to have children.
Of course if you were actually worrying about population collapse you'd talk about Korea and Europe, since Japan is higher up on the birth index than both.

Bait thread from leftypol xissters, Time to fill the thread with fascist anime art.

>>283645713
I know who you're talking about and even sympathize with you, but you should really be asking this guy >>283645553 he seems to find it of vital importance.

>>283645809
>links to the guy mocking the guy going on about it
Salty I take it

>>283645822
You claim in that post that there's a desire to destroy the Japanese through immigration. Is that not what this gentleman >>283645644 >>283645713 is refering to

>>283641566 (OP)
nukes don't exist, they were just firebombed by large fleets
stop getting your history lessons from cartoons

This image spam gives me "queen of spades" edit vibes.

>>283645876
>not even 30 seconds between posts
smells very fishy

>>283645846
No, the response likely yours to that post was the one going on about how they must take infinity immigrants or they're going to go through population collapse.
Which is the standard line by people who hate the japanese and think they can force them into by portraying them as nazis.

>>283645907
Who said Japan "must take infinity immigrants or they're going to go through population collapse"?
Point to the post so we can go over it together.

>>283643711
You say this as if Japanese pacifism isn't widely popular. The people who remember the war certainly don't romanticize it; it's only as they die off that opportunistic frauds take their place.

>>283645948
First post said:
>It doesn't escape anyone's attention that this is just a vector for anti-japanese feelings and a desire to destroy them through immigration either.
The response to this pre-emptively framing immigration as the solution in seething response:
>How do you destroy a country that is already headed toward population collapse? You expect that problem to magically go away?
Said faggot seething when told it's not a genuine problem:
>>283645631

>>283645900
You're right, I didn't even notice.
Don't you think someone who would go to the effort of using bots (or coordinating a discord raid) to spam images of nazi girls to derail a thread is a little mad? It must have struck a nerve when he lost the argument.

Remember brothers, never take the bait

>>283645983
Okay.
"How do you destroy a country that is already headed toward population collapse? You expect that problem to magically go away?"
How does this sound like a pre-emptive framing of immigration as the solution?

>>283645994
Tourists get super pissy when you point out that they obviously don’t watch any anime since they can’t explain a single show promoting right wing politics

People get really upset when you ask about the use of nuclear weapons, huh.

>>283645994
no clue, never seen this type of behavior on /a/ before. What a waste when this thread mostly had decent discussion.

>>283645994
Having read the thread i'd say it was definitely the guy making wild claims about anime creators that got rekked.

>>283646024
>How does this sound like a pre-emptive framing of immigration as the solution?
By introducing it unprompted in response to a line about destruction through immigration. Making it very obvious to anyone literate.

>>283646058
>i'd say it was definitely the guy making wild claims about anime creators that got rekked.
Is that the same guy dumping a folder of anime girls in SS outfits in order to forestall any discussion which he does not approve of?

>>283646081
Regardless of anything else yes. You clearly don't know much about the industry you were making sweeping claims about as with tomino.
Imagespam to bump limit isn't anything unusual either. Only a newfag would be surprised that some autist started dumping.

This is what happens when you’re crippled by cognitive dissonance from trying to juggle fascist sympathies with being peer pressured into caring about a medium that is highly antifascist

>>283646175
Lmao

>>283641566 (OP)
Japs are censoring their own nuclear bomb museums these days. Take a guess.

>>283646126
Personally, I didn't say much about Tomino. I think you have me confused for a different poster.

>>283646076
It was that poster brought up immigration unprompted. He did so because HE was tacitly drawing on the existing debates about the necessity (or lack thereof) for a way to buttress Japan's declining population. It was already knocking around in his head.
All I did was ask him what he'd be in favor of, if not that. Unfortunately he wasn't able to offer a coherent answer.
All he had to say was, "Automation can solve it" or some other simple explanation in order to avoid looking like a fool.

>>283641566 (OP)
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>>283643711
>>283643749
So what discord group did you faggots come from to coordinate this thread?

I don't know if there's a lot of notable examples of anime/manga and other related media that can be considered a right-wing propaganda piece as a whole. But you absolutely find snippets that would not line up with contemporary progressive ideology in series like Tokyo Ghoul, Gintama, Gantz, a lot of VNs (namely from alicesoft), etc.

>>283646522
You're saying this in the middle of a long chain of images that are posted within 20 seconds of each other.
Are you going to look the other way when someone else coordinates the thread to their benefit because you agree with their views?

Is spamming allowed on this imageboard? I should try it sometime.

This entire thread is stupid because I can name many anime/manga based on the Hiroshima/Nagasaki/End of WW2 period.

Ohoshi-sama no Rail, Nagasaki 1945: Angelus no Kane, Hotaru Kagayaku, Ushiro no Shoumen Daare (Who's left behind).

But this thread was started by a mentally ill discordfaggot so... I'm not sure why I'm answering genuinely.

>>283645994
I was wondering what Nazis had to do with the reanimation of the atomic bomb. Came into the thread super confused.

>>283646560
Fuck off faggot, you fags hang out in your discord group then try to coordinate your faggot threads on 4chan just to piss people off. That is 100x worse.

The autists spamming Nazi art making the discordfag seethe is pure kino

>>283646646
Kinda just sounds like you’re projecting

That guy sounds like the same retard who acts like Oda is a political genius. Um no. One Piece is a manga for kiddies.

>>283646646
>my deranged off-site spammers are better than your deranged off-site spammers even in the middle of a 100+ post spam meltdown

>>283646646
Do you know what this discord group is like? Have you seen it? What kinds of things are discussed in there?

>>283646690
Talking point deployed

>>283646733
Didn't you just post this picture?

You already ran out of images to post. Are you going to post AIslop next?

>>283646631
What do they have to say about the period?

Posting in a schizo bread

>>283646808
This is very good desu

>>283646676
>>283646697
>>283646700
Either 3 people or the same schizo.

I'm glad to see the recent janitor recruitment really helped clean up board quality

Great job running the website guys

Remember, heil hitler!

Since imagespam is a normal and accepted board tradition for shitting up threads you don't like, perhaps we should take this to the isekai general.

>>283643749
well, duh. Suletta is literally an arabic name.

>>283646877
Heil, Hitler!

>>283646881
>images
>on an imageboard

who would have guessed

>>283646951
If these spammed images had been girls in communist regalia, what are the odds that you'd be making that sarcastic comment?

>>283646877
Hail Hitler!
Hail der Führer!

>Endure hordes of Chink shilling in the past few years
>That classic Unit 731 film suddenly begin to feel like a comedy

>>283646979
>>283646925
Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer!

why did left wing artists draw all these nazi girl images

>>283646991
>why yes, I AM an evil person

>>283643401
>South Korea
>Not US bitch

>>283647028
How many are official art?

What kind of severe autism do you have to carry to save this much nazi weeaboo shit?

>>283647097
The good autism

>>283647046
The cutest girl posted so far

>>283647097
This is probably a botnet running on a script.

>>283647107
It's just fucking weird. But I guess that would be a fundamental component of being a Nazi.

Will we reach image limit or bump limit first?

When will it end?

>>283647167
me the blonde chad in the corner

Where would you rate are suffering on the chart right now

You know i'm starting to see why moot left us and Hiro mostly ignores us

>>283646968
wtf you can't just post cute anime girls on /a/

Damn nazis make a lot of art

>>283647225
I haven't seen that gif for years

We're almost there Reddit!

>>283647282
Shall we bring out all the old classics?

Quick! Before we reach limit limit we must post the one thing that will trigger him! Post commie girls!

>>283647268
Oh shit you're right my bad sorry comra--I mean anon

>>283643113
>What's weirder is I never see an anime or manga that celebrates 20th century imperial Japan.

Konpeki no Kantai

>>283641566 (OP)
My hero would have tanked that.

Also if there are any guppies in thread remember that she still lost and Darjeeling and Alice won

Here is your reward comrades
Heil Hitler!

So why did someone start posting nazi girls in the thread?

>>283647400
Wtf they did nazi art

Now that it's over will mods nuke this thread and put us out of our misery?

Alles für Deutschland
Heil Hitler!

Nice images guys
Remember to Hail der Führer!
The Third Reich will rise again!

>>283647411
/pol/ tourist big mad about anime actually being progressive media made by leftists

>>283647477
Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer!

Based /a/ nazi bros, I kneel

>>283647477
Hail,Hitler!

Remember, whenever you see a disguised leftypol bait thread, never take the bait and post our beautiful fascist art.

They can't do it here, but leftshits on other boards shitpost "tranime", as another way to appropriate for themselves.

Remember, you’ll never see a tourist from /pol/ actually talk about an anime and explain how it promotes a right wing ideal. They only come here to shitpost and spam.

>>283647477
hail hitler

>>283647477
Der Stürmer

>>283647529
Agreed the Aryan Aura of the NSDAP always destroys our enemies!

How long does it take a thread to fall off the catalog at night? Will we be here for an hour?

>>283647574
Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit!

>>283643711
Truth, mostly babyboomers AKA the current Japanese philosophical backbone. Unapologetic communists, Tezuka was a harbinger, then boomers like Tomino, Yasuhiko, Hayao etc. But things get fishy as time goes by, such as X gen, many chunks of GAINAX dwellers must have been crypto fascists.
>>283643791
Many are right leaning to unabashed rightoids such as picrel although he pussied out at the end but we all have hunch we wanted Eren to win, but some good exemplary cases are there too such as Demon Slayers which is allegorical early 20th century Japan.

>>283647477
>>283647469
>>283647489
>>283647529
>>283647531
>>283647546
>>283647562
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>>283647587
Can I get an invite to your server, guys?

That's a fuck ton of Nazi anime girls, where did you get all of that art?

>>283647593
I know Tezuka was politically active but I never heard anything about him being a commie.

>>283647593
NGE, Gunbuster, TTGL
All progressive works

>>283647609
Danbooru

Does ANYONE have an invite to the Nazi Weeaboo server? I want to thank them for saving the thread.

Wir. Dienen. Deutschland.

>>283647661
Nyo

>>283641566 (OP)
Now that is how you rape a thread, well done.

>>283647661
Nein

>>283647692
Führer befiehl, wir folgen!

>>283647619
There is a picture of him on a podium at a communist related meeting although he never openly claimed to be one, his sympathy for communism is everywhere in his manga too

The thread shall continue! Heil Hitler!

Couldn't you have just deleted the thread??????? Please mods??????

I will be back in a little while to see if the thread has been autosaged, nazi art will recommence after I grab coffee.

At least lock it I'm begging you