Thread 283683700

>on episode 2
>they spent 15 minutes trying to find some stupid flowers
This show is boring as fuck. When does it get good? How the fuck is this popular????

Never, just watch good anime that retarded adhd zoomoids like us love. Shit like DBZ or Demon Slayer where every other scene is an impact frame or exaggerated expression with 0 plotlines. Perfect for us third world retards with shit taste.

>>283683700 (OP)
Skip to episode 18, that is where it gets good

>>283683700 (OP)
those were the good episodes. then it became a battle shounen. it was still interesting enough, but it's like switching from the low end of high brow (having had some message at all) to mid fast food sloppa.

>>283683700 (OP)
>When does it get good
For you never.

>>283683700 (OP)
when you mature

>>283683700 (OP)
Its a story about an old autistic women who's friends died and now tries to get pets. That's the joke.
I like it.

>>283683700 (OP)
Its 2deep4you. The flower symbolism of subversion is a deconstruction of things we've never seen before. Also elf waifu.

>>283683700 (OP)
It pretends to be deep. Normals love that.

>>283683700 (OP)
It was fine

awful show for normgroids

>>283683700 (OP)
Elf cute.

>>283683700 (OP)
By this point in your story I'm certain that these total death conversations are proof that you can't mentally progress beyond chaos servant. My own clone my darling baby sister my heir an actual functional incompetent.
Maybe I should be judging then on for you.
{I think of a man.}
Anyone for tennis? First serve downloads folder.

>>283683700 (OP)
To be the best you need 2 things, be good enough and luck, Frieren nailed both, but overall is a pretty uninteresting anime with a pretty standard setting, episode 2 is basically 50% of what you will get and the other 50% are regular battle shounen tropes.

>>283683700 (OP)
The show is really boring, yes

No other series has ever decisively projected the inner-being of a person, just by reading/hearing their opinion of it.
It's truly fascinating in being a modern turing + rorschach test.

>>283683700 (OP)
>How the fuck is this popular????
elven lolibaba. some will say that it's 3deep5you, but that's a shitty excuse to try and justify the love for the former

>show about a slow elf
>it's slow

>>283683700 (OP)
Shut up shounentard, go watch kimetsu and jujutsu, retard

>>283683700 (OP)
The show gets good the moment Frieren appears

>>283683700 (OP)
Zoomzoom...

>>283683700 (OP)
If that's your reaction to this, you won't ever enjoy it

>>283683700 (OP)
The flowers part was when it was still good. Though the anime really made it seem like a big deal when in the manga it was kind of whatever.

>>283683700 (OP)
It goes to shit really soon after that, so it becomes perfect for a philistine like you.

>>283683700 (OP)
Ok zoomer

>>283684161
/thread

>>283683805
Yeah, because watching the anime equivalent of paint drying is so much better and plot rich.
I fucking hate so called “character-driven” shows, it’s just an excuse for lazy writers to drag on plotlines and show your waifu Mary Sue us being oh so le cute and oh so le fucking quirky while giving us zero character development for an entire season. Even Vegeta legit has way more of a character arc than any of the AI generated bastards in Frieren’s main cast does. I’d chew glass and stick needles in my dick while watching Boku no Pico before watching more of this flaming pile of trash.

>>283683700 (OP)
To be fair, you have to have a very high emotional intelligence to understand Frieren: Beyond Journey’s End. The storytelling is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of post-war existentialism most of the themes will go over a typical shounen viewer’s head. There’s also Frieren’s melancholic worldview, which is deftly woven into her characterization, her quiet reflections on mortality and time drawing heavily from late-Heian mono no aware philosophy. The fans understand this stuff; they have the spiritual sensitivity to truly appreciate the depth of these silences, to realize that they’re not just pauses but profound meditations on the transience of life itself. As a consequence, people who dislike Frieren truly are children; of course they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the emotional weight in Frieren watching a sunset for five uninterrupted seconds, which itself is a visual haiku evoking Bashō’s Oku no Hosomichi. I’m smirking right now just imagining one of those attention-deficient plebeians yawning as the ethereal cadence of Frieren’s pacing unfolds before them. What fools, how I pity them. And yes, by the way, I do have a Frieren tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It’s for those with mature souls only, and even they must prove they’ve transcended attachment before I’ll show it.

>>283687195
>dragon ball spic getting filtered
zzzzz

>>283683700 (OP)
>He does not know about the flowers
That's the most important spell in the whole Series.

>>283687321
DBZ is just alright, mostly just due to it being a classic. I was just comparing both because THAT’s how simple the plot is in Frieren, only Dragon Ball actually has a modicum of character development. Just compare Fern to Gohan. Gohan actually matures and his personality changes as the show goes on. Fern is just a gauche, completely unchanging parody of what an autistic person is like made by a chronic masturbator (mangaka).
As it turns out, being made entirely out of cardboard is in fact not a personality.

>>283687195
then do the needful and post pics.
Next season in two months - and it will be glorious.

>>283687599
>unchanging
I'm being completely serious when i say the series is just too subdued for you, or you were brain-off watching.

>>283683700 (OP)
You sound my shounenfag friend who I tried getting to watch the show lol. I'm pretty sure he dropped it by now as he got super disappointed by the fight in episode 3 ending so fast.

>>283683700 (OP)
>peak anime happens
>you brush right by it, wondering where the good stuff is
wew, ur ngmi

>>283687198
You joke but behind the exaggerated pretentiousness there's something actually there to this post: the quiet and slow moments actually are an important part of the art
Maybe it's not fantastically well done, but it's still there
The restrained and understated style it has compared to other shounen is not a mistake, it's part of what makes it work

>>283683700 (OP)
I have no idea, I dropped it very quickly.
Some philosophical depressive melancholy, wtf, that's not why you watch anime.

>Frieren goes somewhere
>Frieren: Wow this sure does remind me of Himmel the hero.
>flashback to Himmel the hero
>Frieren: Ah the lesson here is to appreciate stuff more.
>Frieren goes somewhere
>Frieren: Wow this sure does remind me of Himmel the hero.

>>283688106
yep
boring show

>>283683700 (OP)
it filters schizos with adhd. we love that

>>283683700 (OP)
It's a slice of life moeshoujo yashikei.
Sure there are battle parts but they assume you can get through the parts where they're doing nothing.
People are being harsh but there are action animes just as there are "let's follow someone's life in school" anime.

>>283687668
You tell me some examples of character development for fern this first season, I’ll wait.

I will be reading this mid.

The anime looks so long and boring i hate the colors and art

I can speedread this and it will be better. 28eps and they only adapted 68chapters they planning to turn this into re zero 5 seasons+

>>283689704
Yeah well I dont give a shit when it comes to sappy stories about friendship. This show is a bunch of cheap attempts of tear jerker and gushy moments over and over again. No amount artifical corpo boosting will change the soulless nature of it. One day you will understand after the hype dies down.

>>283690505
Youngdefiant aka the king of anime said this anime is boring too
https://youtu.be/qBBRmIUfYXw?t=307

>>283683700 (OP)

The slow life in between the adventures is the point though. Frieren´s journey is about her revisiting her past to learn all the lessons she failed to learn and be able to connect to the world. There is some power flexing here and there but i think that´s mostly to contrast with how unaccomplished she is when it comes to dealing with people.

>>283687195
Hehehehehe

>>283690908
Lolicon diddy ew

>>283683700 (OP)
The fights are the worst part of Frieren. They're just warmed over DBZ ki sensing bullshit. If that's what you're looking for, you're in luck because the series focuses more and more on those as it goes on.

>>283683700 (OP)
It's a native isekai slop aimed at the widest possible crowd of normies, what do you expect? Every RPG is full of timewasting gathering quests, Frieren just used that concept

>>283683700 (OP)
That's the best part but she gets a tangible goal at the end of episode 4.

>>283691244
I wonder if the author was intentionally going for that video game vibe where no one really acknowledges the protagonist for what she is, a hero. In RPGs you can complete quests that basically save the world yet only a handful of key NPCs ever comment on it. Your character might be and look incredibly unique but the world just shrugs and keeps going.

Frieren's world works the same way: there are literal statues of her and her hero party everywhere and she's part of an elf race with single digit population left. Yet nobody even blinks when she walks by.

>>283691386
Probably not, it's just another way to show the passage of time. Most people that know her as a celebrity and a hero already either perished or moved on by the time the series properly starts since it's been like 80 years since they defeated the demon king and most statues crumbled, deterioated or doesn't depict her face properly. Elves might be rare but they're not seen as that special, no elf in the series is popular for just being an elf, all three elves we know are famous for actually doing stuff. There's probably an elf out there that's a store merchant or a farmer living a quiet unremarkable life.

>>283691493
At one point Frieren literally attends a celebration honoring the hero’s party for saving the world and nobody recognizes her. She was standing right next to her own statue.

"NPC"s not recognizing Frieren is at best an intentional trope but more likely it is just bad writing.

>>283691688
>he needed a 1-minute segment where an NPC sees her, makes a quirky face and goes "is that...the elf from the hero's party? aieee I'm going insane" before going back to the plot

>>283691688
>but more likely it is just bad writing.
Why is that the default state of you fags? If you don't understand something it's just bad writing, every single time. Maybe you're just stupid?

>>283691795
My point is the setting the author is going for does not make sense. You can't have a character as unique as Frieren, someone who literally helped save the world just a generation ago and then try to frame her journey like she's some random nobody wandering around.

It would make sense if the main hero guy didn't put statues everywhere and people genuinely don't know about the history but it is not the case

>hello there ms elf that exactly looks the statue that we are literally celebrating right now, even wearing the same clothes. oh btw you are probably the only elf this entire town ever seen and that is totally cool with us
Maybe they thought she was a cosplayer

>>283692031
proof that MALfags will eat up anything that pretends to be deep. even a random harem anime will have a more voherent narrative and themes

>>283692031
Even the sloppiest video game have one guard or NPC commenting on MC as he walks around
>it is you... the hero of Kvatch!

Game designers that developed Frieren's world were truly lazy, couldn't they put at least one NPC in there that recognizes her?

>>283683700 (OP)
Maybe you should read some books or just sit around doing nothing in boredom if your attention span is this fucking low.

>>283692151
It's not out of laziness because the show makes a point out of her not wanting to be recognized and only old people picking her out, whether you think it's a bad decision or not it's at least an intentional choice.

>>283691908
>You can't have a character as unique as Frieren, someone who literally helped save the world just a generation ago and then try to frame her journey like she's some random nobody wandering around.
Sure can. She wants to go on a journey, uses her feet and walks. What are you gonna do, stop her?

>>283692199
she should get some new clothes at least and maybe tie her hair differently if she doesn't want to be recognized.

that only makes Frieren world feel even more like a bad video game lol. The game developers didn't even bother giving her a new model with different clothes or hair style despite decades of timelapse in between

>>283692289
You can have that but then it doesn't make sense. It would be as if a today's huge celebrity walking around but people not lining up for signatures. Or a black person visiting japan and none even pointing fingers (worse than that since elves are a lot more rare than that)

>>283683700 (OP)
Not every episode is supposed to be a climatic episode, retard.

>>283689704
I would say it baits rather than filters.

>>283692414
You don't usually expect a celeb to be walking around and going to the same supermarket as you, I can imagine that even in the modern world not everyone might instantly notice it, when you do they're already walking ahead in the crowd.
In today's world there are paparazzi, this is set in quiet medieval suburbs. It's not that kind of place. There are occasions where people do notice and point fingers. That's when you hear they say "that truly is Frieren of the Funeral Beyond End's Journey"...

>>283683700 (OP)
>>283687195
>a heartfelt exploration of legacy and past (passed) friendships through peak fantasy ambiance where an immortal being, an old herbalist lady and a young mage girl form a shortlived but meaningful connection through a now almost forgotten hero's favorite extinct flowers
>"it's boring"

Just stream the latest Demon Slayer movie slop or try to get ahead of the curve tuning in to Gachiakuta you fucking shonentard mongrel.

>>283693080
>and then suddenly hunter x hunter exam arc
the author is indecisive if it should be a shonen shit, a native isekai shit or a slice of life manga.

maybe that is why it is so popular

>>283693115
Why does it have to be just one?

>>283693115
Yeah I like to pretend it ends on episode 5. It works as the perfect fantasy anime movie that way. It starts with the end of Hummel's adventure, and it ends with the start of Fern's adventure. It's kino.

>>283693115
I didn't like the tournament arc my first watch, but on my second watch, I appreciated it more.

>>283693162
It doesn't have to be one but my point is it more than a "heartfelt exploration". There are times it becomes a shonen shit or an Isekai shit

>>283692151
Have you seen that lazy ass dungeon that the devs just used main character models with a palette swap and made that into dungeon boss? I don't get how this game got overwhelmingly positive on steam

Why didn't Frieren and her party just fly over the walls but instead took that subquest? Were there invisible walls or something that goes all the way up to skybox?

>>283693445
They do mention something like a barrier. Keep in mind in Frieren's universe demons are known to fly so it makes even more sense.

>>283683700 (OP)
just fucking kill yourself. rid us of your insufferable bullshit.

>>283693495
Then what is the point of actual walls

>>283693511
so normal humans don't wander
or maybe the barrier is generated inside the wall
who knows

>>283693080
Its executed poorly which makes it boring.

Why didn't Frieren just use eagles to fly to the mount doom?

>>283693511
The barrier is not meant to be permanent. It was active when Frieren visited because of the conflicts up north.

Regular times: Brick wall with an open main entrance for commerce and adventurers

State of emergency: Closed main entrance and magic barrier to prevent people/demons/mages coming and going

>>283693531
We learn from the episode with the Zoltrak demon that knowledge of magic has exploded in the last century since Himmel's party defeated the Demon King. Walls likely preceded the knowledge of how to create invisible barriers around cities.

>>283693728
Could not they also create a spell to go through or cancel out invisible barriers? Surely Frieren can just reverse engineer that barrier spell

>>283683847
I miss the flower episodes.

>How the fuck is this popular????
Because Normalfags think that good animation, no fanservice, and people talking is the same as a show being good.

>>283693770
I'd have to rewatch the episode but I'm guessing Stark suggested something like that and Frieren thought being constantly chased by guards wasn't worth it when she could just wait a few months or years for the barrier to be dispelled after the northern conflicts died down

>>283693796
Incredible strawman

>>283693635
>skilled at concealing their mana
Everyone and everything can do that in this show. It's simultaneously a great accomplishment invented by Flamme and also something random birds and the most retarded demons can do.

>>283693445
That is why the devs removed levitate spells from elder scrolls so you don't break the main plot like that. The magic exam quest is part of the main quest and it is not meant to be skippable.

>>283693820
Speedreader

>>283693796
>good animation
>no fanservice
>people talking
Oh so that's why JJK is so popular

>>283687195
>the anime equivalent of paint drying
But enough about the Ashnime. I thought this was a Frieren thread.

>>283683700 (OP)
YOU SONT UNDERSTAND
ITS THE SLOW BURN
ITS ALL ABOUT DOING EVERYTHING BUT ADVANCING THE STORY
ITS ALL ABOUT KEEPING THE BUDGET AS LOW AS POSSIBLE BY HAVING AS MUCH TALKING AS POSSIBLE

>>283693820
One, most of the things Flamme did became things everyone can do because she lived so long ago that her teachings became the fundamentals of magic. Two, everyone can hold their breath for a few minutes, but not everyone can hold their breath for the rest of their life.

Retards thinking the seeming appearance of themes about life and death make you deep by default. They see she cried in episode 1 and OH THIS IS SO MEANINGFUL.

>>283683700 (OP)
Yes, it turns into battle shit halfway through the season.

>>283683700 (OP)
first few episodes are the only good episodes you stupid nigger

>>283695588
>Simple
>But still thoughtful
>Honest and straightforward
>But not loud
It's amazing how this combination is impossible for /a/ to comprehend

>>283693510
Frierenfags get so defensive when someone doesn't think it's the best thing since sliced bread

>>283683700 (OP)
>they spent 15 minutes trying to find some stupid flowers
And it had an amazing payoff. It's not for you tatakae-kun.

Is having a hard to please GF like Fern a good thing?

>>283692031
But he did recognize her, she simply brushed it off.

>>283696420
I don't think it's the best thing since sliced bread, I just like it a lot and I think most of the criticism is very stupid

>>283693635
>She explicitly says she wants to retrace the steps of her previous party
>Why did she not teleport there?

>>283697324
Who the fuck cares?
The important question is how would one make Frieren happy in modern day, without grimoires and magic trinkets.

>>283683805
if you're looking for le deep plot in cartoons for children and teenagers then u should kill yourself unironically

>too dimwitted to understand kino
not the animes fault

>>283697419
Scary...

>>283683700 (OP)
>When does it get good?
Never
>How the fuck is this popular????
It looks pretty and it's inoffensive. It also has a touch of sentimentality that tricks your typical shonentard or isekaishitter into thinking that they're watching something profound.

>>283693080
Frieren is a shounen series too.

>>283689704
Frieren doesn't filter anyone that's why it's so popular with the Reddit crowd. It tries very hard to be as inoffensive as possible.

>>283683700 (OP)
>How the fuck is this popular????
it's used as background noise

>>283698050
If anything at some point it turns full shonen and all that "slow burn" is gone