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Anonymous No.8830649 >>8830650 >>8843383 >>8855709 >>8856490
/ssg/ Shortstack General
Shortstack General #243

Celebrating /ssg/ Artists Edition

Previous Thread: >>8787886

-THREAD GUIDELINES-

>No futa
>No gays, but lesbians are okay
>No racebaiting
>No gas or onara
>No drama
>No AI 'art'
>No weird shit that's too 'out there'

Post pics, stories, whatever you got that involves pocket-sized sex bombs, just be excellent to each other.

If you're an artist who draws shortstacks, what are you working on right now? Share what you're making!

Fairly recentish shortstack VN:
>https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/819465

Fanfics for nerds who read someone recently updated
The New Demon Lord patron reward
>https://www.hentai-foundry.com/stories/user/luffy316/49230/The-New-Demon-Lord-patron-reward
The Ratcatchers
>https://www.hentai-foundry.com/stories/user/luffy316/54100/The-Ratcatchers
Samina Cass:
>https://pastebin.com/xykRRUs3
Warcraft Goblin Story:
>https://pastebin.com/rDMbJrAP
Booru
>https://shorty.booru.org/

Thread question: What do you guys look for when searching for goblin stuff?
Anonymous No.8830650 >>8830651
>>8830649 (OP)
Anonymous No.8830651 >>8830652
>>8830650
Anonymous No.8830652 >>8830653
>>8830651
Anonymous No.8830653 >>8830654
>>8830652
Anonymous No.8830654 >>8830657
>>8830653
Anonymous No.8830657 >>8830659
>>8830654
Anonymous No.8830659 >>8830660 >>8830908
>>8830657
Anonymous No.8830660 >>8830908
>>8830659
Anonymous No.8830685
Anonymous No.8830692 >>8830892 >>8830962
So incase is gonna go back to focusing on porn now instead of doing drama shit no one wanted, right?
Anonymous No.8830845 >>8830944
Update on the 3d model learning experience, I ended up with something vaguely presentable!
Anonymous No.8830892 >>8830908 >>8830944 >>8831514
>>8830692

God I wish you had the intelligence and self-awareness to be embarrassed by your own behavior instead of forcing everyone else to do it for you.
Anonymous No.8830897 >>8830911 >>8830961 >>8831697 >>8832965
Not having futa means missing out on so much fun.
Anonymous No.8830908 >>8830944
>>8830659
>>8830660
>@unknown artist
It's OkGaki.

>>8830892
He's right, incase's comic fucking sucked.
His standalone goblin girl drawings are 1000x better than his cringe ass webcomic.
Anonymous No.8830911 >>8830944
>>8830897
There's already enough futa threads on this board.
No one wants futa spam.
Anonymous No.8830944
>>8830845
Neato! Rounded ears are an interesting choice
>>8830892
What a weird thing to say
>>8830908
Cheers
>>8830911
Based
Anonymous No.8830961
>>8830897
Diapers, scat, slob, etc
The people with those fetishes have more tact than futrannies
Anonymous No.8830962
>>8830692
He should make a comic focusing entirely on goblin girls.
Anonymous No.8831058
Big Imp
Anonymous No.8831514 >>8831764 >>8845402
>>8830892
Yooo Incase visiting the thread
Anonymous No.8831517 >>8831637
Anyone remember JKLind? I stopped seeing anything new from him and just kinda forgot about him
Anonymous No.8831637
>>8831517
People stopped paying him to shit out the samey softcore shit he's been milking for decades
Anonymous No.8831697 >>8831760 >>8831873 >>8831874 >>8832975 >>8859907
>>8830897
I always find it hilarious how you fags have to act like this everywhere. Other fetishes know they aren't meant to be everywhere. Then there's futafaggots and their insufferable entitled attitudes. Unable to comprehend the idea that their tranny fetish is repulsive
Anonymous No.8831760 >>8859835 >>8859907
>>8831697
Once upon a time it was furfags. Just gotta browbeat them until they fuck off
Anonymous No.8831764
>>8831514
lmao
Anonymous No.8831873 >>8832022
>>8831697
this style looks familiar
Anonymous No.8831874 >>8831878 >>8832022 >>8832115 >>8832975
I'm out of the loop, when did we start hating futa
>>8831697
futas are impossible fiction, trannies are a blight
Anonymous No.8831878 >>8831881 >>8831960
>>8831874
"we" always did, futa and futafags are a fucking plague on this board.
Faggotry aside, their taste is complete dogshit

>futas are impossible fiction, trannies are a blight
Self inserting as a "woman with a dick" is tranny bullshit, no matter what coping method you use.
Anonymous No.8831881 >>8831951
>>8831878
who the fuck self-inserts as a futa
Anonymous No.8831951
>>8831881

...he asked, in the thread about having sex with goblins in fantasy world settings.
Anonymous No.8831960 >>8831976 >>8832022
>>8831878

As opposed to you self inserting as an 'alpha' because you hate your own body so much? Let people have their fantasies, what's wrong with you?
Anonymous No.8831976 >>8832116
>>8831960
If you're going to post low effort bait, could you at least post images along with it? Just hop on e621 and search "goblin".
Imageless posts defeat the purpose of an image board.
Anonymous No.8832022
>>8831873
Shouldn't be
I did it last night during dnd
>>8831874
Same shit
Your fetish is stupid and the need to slap a story onto dudes with tits to justify it is stupid
>>8831960
>Let people have their fantasies, what's wrong with you?
Why do people have to be reminded of your fetish? Why do you go to threads that want nothing to do with it and expect people to welcome you with open arms?
Anonymous No.8832115
>>8831874
Since forever. It's always been a weird troon fetish that's been looked down upon; it's merely that the last decade or so has popularized mental illness
Anonymous No.8832116 >>8832120 >>8832127
>>8831976

All you've done is complain about other people liking shit you don't like. Why should we post images for you if you're just going to shit on everything that gets posted anyway?
Anonymous No.8832120 >>8832130
>>8832116
>All you've done is complain about other people liking shit you don't like
But that isn't true, he's been posting images
>Why should we post images for you
First off, fuck off, you're not part of "we"
Second, because that's the purpose of the thread
>you're just going to shit on everything that gets posted anyway
Again, not true, he's been posting on-topic content.

Why do you people think putting the square block in the round hole is something people will find acceptable? This is a shortstack thread, not a chicks with dicks thread.
Anonymous No.8832127 >>8832138
>>8832116
>everything
No. Just the one fetish. ( β€’α·„α½€β€’α·…)?But are people not allowed to dislike fetishes? Your fetish isn't special. People don't have to look at it because you like it
Anonymous No.8832130 >>8832157 >>8832214
>>8832120

A shortstack with a dick is still a shortstack, and your sexual hangups are not anyone's problem but your own.
Anonymous No.8832138 >>8832144 >>8832157
>>8832127

So then don't look at it. Existing on the same plane as something is not "being forced to look at it." Ignore it and continue on with your day, rather than crashing to a halt to go off on a screed about how putting a dick on a girl is somehow going to be the end of civilization.

That's what a functional adult would do.

But then again you're on 4chan, so I suppose that's too much to ask of you.
Anonymous No.8832144
>>8832138
>r*ddit spacing
That's not how it works here, you post on-topic or fuck off and create your own thread.
I understand this might be hard for someone who likes women with dicks, but stop acting like a faggot.
That's the last (you) you get.
Anonymous No.8832157 >>8832180
>>8832130
The dick ruins it. It seems you can't grasp the fact that other people are straight and aren't interested in your tranny fetish. Why does it bother you that people don't like your fetish? (οΏ£β–½οΏ£)
>>8832138
Segregation of interests is the whole point of this site anon. There's a reason you can't post your tranny fetish in this thread without risking a ban. ( Ν‘Β° ΝœΚ– Ν‘Β°)
>>8832150
Imagine being the butt of the joke and coping with getting btfo by pretending other people are mad(Β°βˆ€Β°)
Anonymous No.8832180 >>8832191 >>8832891 >>8859850
>>8832157
Anonymous No.8832191 >>8832197 >>8857162
>>8832180
You can't actually form a real comeback so you've given up and this all you can muster (Β¬β€ΏΒ¬)
Anonymous No.8832197 >>8832202 >>8832891
>>8832191

>comeback
>implying this is an actual argument to begin with
>implying I'm not just watching you have a screaming autistic meltdown because someone told you to stop being so fucking weird about not liking a thing
Anonymous No.8832202 >>8832211
>>8832197
No, its been people laughing at you for being a loser. Then you making up stuff like this about random people to cope with the fact people are making fun of you. You can't acknowledge what anyone says properly and ended up repeating the same thing over and over because you can't counter what anyone says without getting btfo β‰–β€Ώβ‰–
Anonymous No.8832211 >>8832217 >>8832891
>>8832202

Absolutely fucking dilated
Anonymous No.8832214 >>8832238
>>8832130
>A shortstack with a dick is still a shortstack
One prohibited by the thread's outline for what is acceptable and what isn't
>your sexual hangups are not anyone's problem but your own
So then why are you making your hangup of not being a stupid nigger our problem?
Anonymous No.8832217 >>8832238
>>8832211
And there you go, back into your defensive posture. Incapable of forming a real thought as a means to protect your fragile ego (~οΏ£β–½οΏ£)~
Anonymous No.8832220 >>8832229 >>8832231 >>8832233
why must they be like this
dont they have the own communities to be weirdos in
Anonymous No.8832226 >>8832229 >>8832231
Damn, there sure are a lot of off-topic posts ITT, hint hint.
Anonymous No.8832229
>>8832220
Anything futa centric tends to die off. I've seen it happen countless times. They're not honest about how they need to be parasitic in order to survive
>>8832226
( οΎŸβ–½οΎŸ)
Anonymous No.8832231 >>8832238
>>8832220
If I had to guess, it's probably to feel accepted or some shit.
Like, they want to post their garbage for it to be seen, so they feel validated and less disgusted with themselves.
They have to invade, that's the point.

>>8832226
Yeah, my fault, the first futa fag post seemed genuine so I replied, but it's clear it's just some r*ddit retard trying to start shit.
It made some people post images though, even if just to dunk on him lol.
Anonymous No.8832233 >>8833091
>>8832220
When he says "let people have their fantasies" it means that his fantasy isn't enjoying futa on his own, but spamming dick picks to an unwilling audience. That's his fantasy, and by banning it on ONE thread you ruined his day
Anonymous No.8832238 >>8832242 >>8832891
>>8832214
>>8832217

Because even retards like you know the easiest way to end this, is to just stop responding - but you never will, because you won't let anyone else have the last word, you have to be the big smart special boy who wins against the big meanie on the internet who doesn't like the things you like

You say "no more (you)s for you" and "I don't care" but yet you keep coming back, keep tossing those (you)s out, trying to win a game nobody's playing - while we just keep laughing at you for being so butthurt

>>8832231
>thinking anyone posts on 4chan for "acceptance"

This is the asshole of the internet, only a retard would think 4chan's "acceptance" is worth anything
Anonymous No.8832242 >>8832256
>>8832238
Your inability to understand the situation is amazing. ( Β΄βˆ€ο½€)
Anonymous No.8832250
>we
Anonymous No.8832256 >>8832264
>>8832242

>the situation:
Anonymous No.8832264
>>8832256
Ironic(~οΏ£β–½οΏ£)~
Anonymous No.8832271
Futafag try not to sperg out over being called gay challenge (IMPOSSIBLE) (FAILED MULTIPLE TIMES)
Anonymous No.8832314
if futa was a tranny fetish, then surely it would be allowed given most of the jannies are trannies, correct?
Anonymous No.8832461 >>8832477
Flat-chested goblins with big titty energy...
Anonymous No.8832477 >>8832500 >>8833125
>>8832461
I'm sorry to say that nothing about this image is attractive
Anonymous No.8832500 >>8832532 >>8834684
>>8832477
Hey now, the sword is interesting (albeit too simple).
Anonymous No.8832532
>>8832500
I cast slice of cheese
Anonymous No.8832870
Anonymous No.8832891
>>8832238
>>8832211
>>8832180
>>8832197
I can tell who the futa anon is because he never posts any actual porn, presumably because he's not allowed to post futa.

Are pictures of tranny dicks literally all you have?
Anonymous No.8832928
Anonymous No.8832965 >>8833094
>>8830897
while i do enjoy futa sometimes, most peeps here arent gay, so they arent missing out on much
Anonymous No.8832975 >>8833091 >>8833096
>>8831697
eh... i'd separate futa from tranies, but i understand why people conflate them.

>>8831874
a few years ago /aco/ was being constantly spammed with filter avoiding futa threads (imho it was a board culture raid) to the point that a lot of the content variety here died off, which fucking sucked.

even before that people had issue with the fetish, dicks are gay dont you know?
Anonymous No.8833091 >>8833094
>>8832975
>eh... i'd separate futa from tranies, but i understand why people conflate them.
If you're self inserting as a woman with a dick, you're a tranny.
If you're self inserting as the person sucking the woman with a dick, you're a gay.
Simple as.

4chan is being retarded and thinks my post is spam, let me post twice

>a few years ago /aco/ was being constantly spammed with filter avoiding futa threads
Even now there's still a huge spam.
Sure, at least futa is in the title now but like, what the fuck is the difference between "Futa C O C K thread" and "/FRT/ Futunari resurection thread"?
What's the point of "/futasdg/ - Futa Stable Diffusion General" if futa threads have no rules against ai anyway?
In fact, you can easily tell they're spammed garbage because aside from "Powerdomme Muscle Futa" , which seems to be a muscle futa thread, there's literally no theme other than women with dicks.
There's no point in multiple threads if they're literally all the same.
Like, why would we have a shortstack thread and a goblin girl thread if the contents of one perfectly fit in the other?
Not to mention that if you don't include no futa on the op, your thread instantly becomes a futa thread.
This anon >>8832233 is right.
Anonymous No.8833094
>>8833091
Huh, guess you can't cross link threads multiple times in one post without it being flagged as spam?

>>8832965
I have a toriel drawing by OkGaki that I'd love to post here but can't due to board rules.
Will I cry about it? No.
Anonymous No.8833096 >>8834144
>>8832975
I consider anything with a dick a man. Don't care about the fetish lore that futafags need to justify their fetish. Hence, futa and trannies are the same shit. Dudes with tits
Anonymous No.8833125 >>8833698
>>8832477
I don't know, kinda want to explore that jungle
Anonymous No.8833698 >>8833864
>>8833125
Artist's name please?
Anonymous No.8833864
>>8833698
Scyke
Anonymous No.8833872 >>8834745
There is a Trinket thread if anyone wants to contribute. >>8828463
Anonymous No.8833995 >>8834033 >>8834148 >>8834745 >>8838950
I want to make a goblin porn game (and to sell 3D prints) and I've been coming up with a base design that I can build different types of goblin girls off of. Could I get some honest and constructive feedback for how it looks? Anything you think I can improve or change?
Anonymous No.8834033 >>8834055
>>8833995
mouth's a little too wide imo, but could work as a stylistic choice
nip diameter is a little too large imo
maybe shrink the forearms & hands by 5%, and the feet a little less so
vaginal mound is a little saggy?
>no pupils
nah jk, but maybe consider having black sclera?
Anonymous No.8834055 >>8834767
>>8834033
>vaginal mound is a little saggy?
Could you elaborate a little more on this?
Anonymous No.8834144 >>8834153
>>8833096

I consider you a huge faggot with shit opinions.
Anonymous No.8834148 >>8834166 >>8834195
>>8833995
Sure, I can give some feedback. I'm gonna focus on the flaws because I think that'd be the most instructive so just to be clear, I think this is overall a good model.

The first thing I have to critique is your general anatomical construction. This is something that's pretty subtle and can be hard to give anything concrete for so I'm going to attempt to give a solid example that you can apply to everything else on this or any future models. To put it simply, the way you've constructed this girl's butt is subtly wrong. Pic related has about the same body/head ratio and a similar sized butt. But Ilulu's butt looks more like an actual muscle attached to the lower back muscles rather than a pad that has been inserted under the skin. Note how the linework outlining the butt area thins and disappears into the body right below the panty strings. This isn't a coincidence, on a real person the muscle of the butt is attached there as well, which is why there's a sort of V shape right around where the butt crack starts. There's a bit of that on your model but it doesn't quite get there, and it makes the whole area look just a bit off as a result. There's similar issues with the chest and upper back areas as well. This sort of stuff improves with time and practice, and I'd recommend studying up on your anatomy so you can make something that looks more natural.

Anatomy aside, I'd say my biggest issue is that I'm just not a fan of that kind of Warcraft goblin style where the hands/forearms/feet/calves are oversized compared to the body. They also tend to have very weird facial construction, which I'm not sure if you were going for. IMO this means that their faces, and by extension the face on your model, is a bit ugly. If you like Warcraft goblins then that's fine, but if you want to make the face more traditionally cute/beautiful, try making the mouth smaller and the eye features a little smoother. I'm hitting character limit so I'll elaborate next post.
Anonymous No.8834153 >>8834301
>>8834144
Okay? What do you want? I'm straight
Anonymous No.8834166 >>8834182 >>8834195
>>8834148
I don't really have a good NSFW example of a 3D model that has what I'd call a "better" face so to preserve image limit I'll upload it to catbox. As an aside, I'd recommend checking out the twitter page in that image, as that guy does a lot of really nice short stack 3D models, so there's a wealth of positive examples to be found.

Image: https://files.catbox.moe/ncehuj.png

The biggest issue with your face, IMO, is that it's caught between a realistic face and a stylized face. There's a lot of detail in lip/nose/eye socket areas that you'd expect from a realistic render but not so much that it actually looks real. But there's too much for it to be cartoony. For instance, you have a lot of definition around the chin and above the lip (Particularly in the philtrum groove), and the lips themselves have a fairly realistic cupid's bow. But then the mouth is very long and the nose is small and very pointed in spite of a more realistic bridge/eye socket structure. My brain sees this detail and assumes that the face must be deformed in some manner. And it is, there's a clear attempt at stylization but the excess detail means it ends up falling into the uncanny valley. Compare with the attached image's face. Notice how there's very little detail on the mouth area, the nose, or the eye sockets. The character has a lot of the usual anatomical landmarks, the upper/lower eyelids, the lips, even an eye socket ridge, but by not being as pronounced or as detailed the face ends up looking more appealing. It also lacks a defined brow ridge at all.

I'm not saying realism can't work for this kind of thing but I think you have to decide if you want to create stylized models or realistic ones and stick to one or the other.
Anonymous No.8834182 >>8834195
>>8834166
I realize that I might've seemed a bit self-contradictory since I recommended both practicing real anatomy AND critiquing that same anatomy in your model's face, but the key to good stylization is understanding of realism. If you know what something is supposed to look like, you can take away details without losing the overall form of the image entirely.
Anonymous No.8834195 >>8834225
>>8834148
>>8834166
>>8834182
Appreciate the feedback. I'll take another pass at my anatomy and see what I can do. My goal is to be more stylized, and I forgot to mention that I plan to draw over my models to create 2D renders for the game instead of going full 3D (I think 2D has more appeal in terms of porn).

My goal with the overall look is to have them be sort of an in between of WoW goblins and something more cute. I wanted that sort of large mouth, large hand kind of look but I understand now that might be a bit difficult to pull off so I'll probably tone the WoW aspect back by a bit.

I've also avoided looking at other artist's work in this kind of field because I have a nasty habit of comparing myself to them, and ending up getting depressed because I feel as if I'll be unable to reach their levels of success, when they're basically doing what I'm doing just much better, and they have an audience for it. I'll definitely look more deeply into proper anatomy lessons though as see what I can fix.
Anonymous No.8834225 >>8834303
>>8834195
>I plan to draw over my models to create 2D renders for the game instead of going full 3D
Interesting approach. I definitely agree with your assessment about it having more appeal. For me personally I just can't get it up to 3D models nearly as easily.

>My goal with the overall look is to have them be sort of an in between of WoW goblins and something more cute
I kind of figured. That might be a tall order, but I've seen characters with these traits succeed (Hellmouth Imp comes to mind). Still, it's worth considering that Warcraft goblins look the way they do because they're a bit ugly on purpose, and the large limbs/facial features help them animate/"read" at low poly RTS/MMO camera distances. It's also because that's how Warhammer stylized their gretchin miniatures, but that's another story.

>I have a nasty habit of comparing myself to them, and ending up getting depressed
I understand, ego is a huge enemy in this sort of endeavor. I won't give you some reheated buddhist take about letting go and embracing the pure joy of creation because I paint anime figures and whenever I look at Grizzry Panda or Vertex Studios I want to kill myself. So instead I'll just say keep at it, practice makes perfect, and keep detailed anatomical charts handy. The model you've posted is already pretty good, your skills just need polishing. If you ever make your game, post it here. The world needs more shortstack eroge.
Anonymous No.8834301 >>8834470
>>8834153

That doesn't make you any less of a faggot.
Anonymous No.8834303 >>8834732 >>8835795 >>8859878
>>8834225
>Interesting approach
My 3D skills are a lot more refined than my 2D, so I figured I could make base models in Zbrush, give them rudimentary rigs and poses, and then use those as reference or tracing materials for the 2D scenes. Then I can also do the same for the environments if I need to, and whatever else calls for it.

>If you ever make your game, post it here
Definitely. My idea is to just make a standard Visual Novel game with light turn based combat elements with heavy inspiration from Final Fantasy Tactics. I plan to make the goblin girls' outfits based on the class concepts from FFT too. I want to make it in Godot given the combat ideas I want to implement. Although I don't know how the majority of people in this thread feel about [spoiler]futa content[/spoiler] since that'll be the protagonist. Thank you for the feedback again, I'll do my best to improve the model and come back sometime later with an update.
Anonymous No.8834408 >>8837196
Anonymous No.8834470 >>8834727
>>8834301
Says the faggot in defense of his tranny fetish
You're the faggot for being bothered that I think your fetish is dogshit
Anonymous No.8834684
>>8832500
Actual non-censored/covered Catface full frontals never ever
Anonymous No.8834727 >>8834784
>>8834470

Oh yeah, I'M the one who's bothered. Totally not the guy screaming about strangers' kinks on a porn board because he physically can't ignore anything he doesn't like.
Anonymous No.8834732 >>8852668
>>8834303
>Futa protagonist
Trash.
I'm sorry anon, but part of the appeal of goblin girls is you "taming a wild creature", it's a self insert fantasy at its core.
You make the protagonist a futa, you've made a tranny fantasy game.
Anonymous No.8834745
>>8833872
It's a great thread anon but I scoured my collection andI don't think have any Trinket that hasn't been posted already.

>>8833995
She does look like a wow goblin, for me that's nice but you may want to tread carefully. The anatomy understanders have already logged on so all I'll say is if this amongst your first iterations she's cute and you're on the right track. Good luck with your game!
Anonymous No.8834767 >>8835828
>>8834055
On the left model, you see the crease between the vag and her left inner thigh? Notice how there's a cleft forming about halfway down the crease, because the labia are sagging. The lips are too "puckered", so they end up looking saggy. Draw them back up into the navel area a bit so the skin looks less saggy.
Anonymous No.8834778 >>8835350
>talented artist with much potential starts posting OC
>very cool
>inevitable futa monkeypaw
>
I don't like harboring a negative attitude and I don't want to discourage aspiring artists, but I'm just so fatigued
Anonymous No.8834784 >>8835499
>>8834727
I like saying fetishes are bad because then I get goons like you to make fun of. It's just a fetish and you're all bent out if shape because other people fine it repulsive.
Anonymous No.8834911
Anonymous No.8834978
Anonymous No.8835117 >>8835212 >>8852493
Anonymous No.8835212 >>8835801
>>8835117
TL?
Anonymous No.8835350 >>8835358
>>8834778
>be me
>find artist I like
>he draws chubby characters with just the right amount of fat, not too much, not too little
>keeps saying people wouldn't like it if he posted what he liked
>assume he means fatter characters
>it was futa
>it's always fucking futa

Every single fucking one of his drawings now are disgustingly fat futas with hyper cocks.
I don't even remember his name but this shit pisses me off.
Anonymous No.8835358 >>8835433
>>8835350
Take solace in the fact 99% of artists don't even bother with it
Anonymous No.8835433 >>8835471
>>8835358
Bother with what, the pretense?
Anonymous No.8835471 >>8857162
>>8835433
Futa
Most artists don't touch it
Most gallery aggregation sites show a huge gap in works with and without futa. Even for pay the top 10 work tags on doujin sites that artists produced futa didn't show up. Big tits being #1. Most artists that even touch it will only touch it for pay or provide straight alts of futa pics that end up going farther out into the web than their futa works.
Anonymous No.8835499 >>8835503 >>8835623 >>8835698
>>8834784

That just sounds like a really depressing way to live.
Anonymous No.8835503
>>8835499
How do you interpret me enjoying making fun of people getting bent out of shape over something inconsequential. I hate mosquitoes and I'm not going to take someone serious if they start preaching about how totally awesome mosquitoes are. Though I'm sure you won't understand that analogy in the slightest
Anonymous No.8835623
>>8835499
>baiting people for fun is a depressing way to live
>he says, baiting me into replying
You're lucky I'll use any excuse to post more goblin girls, else you wouldn't get any more (you)s >:c
Anonymous No.8835698
>>8835499
it can't possibly be more depressing than you repeatedly coming back to this thread you clearly aren't enjoying just to complain
Anonymous No.8835795 >>8836092 >>8840205
>>8834303
This thread aside I think most people wouldn't object to a futaxfemale goblin game because for me that basically scans as regular sex. Benis in bagina and all that. But more importantly you should make the game that you want to make because that's the only way you'll stay motivated through the actual hardship of the creative process. Making something at all is a huge fucking pain in the ass so it should at least pay off for one person. And really, no one is so unique that their preferred type of porn is only going to appeal to only one person.
Anonymous No.8835801 >>8836256 >>8852493
>>8835212
My nipponese is a little rusty but it's literally like,

"How's your [master/husband]? Feels good!"

I think it's two distinct topics. Like she's asking the question but also commenting that the water on her body feels good.
Anonymous No.8835828 >>8835899 >>8835952
>>8834767
I'll give it a look, thank you for clarifying.

>For the futa naysayers
To elaborate on the futa aspect for my game, the story I wanted to lay out was that Goblins were driven to near extinction and you play as "the chosen one", a goblin futa who is tasked by her dwindling tribe to find any other goblins she can to repopulate your race. All the other goblins would be female. Futa is probably my top fetish which is why I chose to do that, but I'm so early in development that it's not something that's set in stone. Maybe I can make it so that you can choose to either play as the futa or a generic human fighter who felt pity on goblins and has risen up to help right the wrongs of the past and save the goblins by dicking them. That would increase the workload by some degree, but if I keep most of the story and scenes the same then it wouldn't require too much extra work by just swapping out the protag models when needed. Plenty of other games do that anyway and I don't think it's a bad idea to appeal to more people if I'm able to. I'm open to suggestions.
Anonymous No.8835899 >>8835931
>>8835828
Well, speaking as a professional software engineer it's probably not a good idea to start scope creeping your game before it even exists but you're also right when you say it likely wouldn't be a lot of extra work. The balance of widening your appeal without trying to make a game for everyone is a big part of design. I like the premise. It's simple, has immediate stakes, establishes motive well, and accommodates porn. Good foundation. I like FFT too but I do wonder if it's too cerebral of a game. Studies have shown that people get dumber when they're aroused. Well, I guess you could just make it easier if that's an issue.

Also, just remember that first and foremost you're making a game. So the game parts should be fun. I see a lot of eroge, particularly from westerners, being very boring or very grindy and I don't know why that is. You don't have to have a new sex scene every 5 seconds but the best eroge are also good games. That aside, my only suggestion is an Onion Knight goblin that never wears any kind of pants/panties. She can have a helmet, thigh boots, boob armor, etc but never anything covering the crotch/ass.
Anonymous No.8835931 >>8835987 >>8836091
>>8835899
>I like FFT too but I do wonder if it's too cerebral of a game. Studies have shown that people get dumber when they're aroused.
That's an interesting point. I had ideas of having a "skip combat" button or just making it pretty easy to play in general. I also had ideas of having different scenes play out depending on who you have in your party. Like having the thief in the party could allow you to find a secret passage which would give you a slightly different scene than if you had the fighter break the door down, etc. There are also ideas of having some kind of city builder and nation management once you get high enough populations from fathering goblins but that might just be over the line of what I can realistically do and what might just be too much for a porn game.

>my only suggestion is an Onion Knight goblin that never wears any kind of pants/panties.
I like it. That falls nicely with my original plans of making their appearances based on FFT designs, but with lewd elements. This is a Black Mage prototype I made earlier to see how things might look with that direction.
Anonymous No.8835952 >>8835977
>>8835828
Honestly I don't think anyone would mind playing as a male goblin as opposed to a generic human fighter, if the goal was to minimize workload while still having minimum protag variety. Could even have them be a halfling as a compromise, but I'm just spitballing.
Anonymous No.8835977 >>8835997 >>8836001 >>8836075 >>8836984 >>8840207
>>8835952
My main worry would be to have an unattractive protagonist. Male goblins are pretty universally ugly, and I don't know about you but I simply hate playing an eroge where my character is deliberately or accidentally ugly. Especially the 3D games that try to make the protagonist attractive, but end up being this really unappealing and it takes me out of the moment. One solution could be to make it more of a "silhouette" goblin protag, like you'll get the outline of him but all the facial features are obscured or made extremely faded, but I don't exactly know how many people would be receptive to play as a male goblin to begin with. To me, the protag is either me as a self-insert, or I'm some omniscient being guiding the female protag on a lewd path. I don't think I would like playing as a male goblin given the implications, and would rather play as a generic or faceless human fucking goblins because in this world goblin wombs don't discriminate. A halfing could be a decent compromise, as that might just make it as simple as a color swap for many scenes.
Anonymous No.8835987 >>8836020
>>8835931
>There are also ideas of having some kind of city builder and nation management once you get high enough populations from fathering goblins
That is pretty ambitious. It's a whole new set of logic in the codebase, assets, game design work, etc. Not saying it's totally out of the question, a lot of RPGs have some basic management aspects attached to them like how Persona has the calendar system/social links, or Dohna Dohna has prostitute management for an eroge example. But you'll definitely want to get the basics of the game down first. A lot of western eroge gets stuck in development hell because developers see some initial success and suddenly want to make the GTA6 of porn games (Or they just get lazy and suck up patreon money forever).

>FFT designs, but with lewd elements
Man there was this old image I used to see, I wish I still had it but it was basically a list of every FFT class but drawn as really scantily clad girls. People used to post it in those "Roll for your waifu" type threads. I think you'd want to push it more in the lewd direction though. I like this model but it looks like someone gave Vivi a boob job and a window to show it off. Also, if it's more lewd, Square has a harder time suing you.
Anonymous No.8835997 >>8836020
>>8835977
Would you play a game where you start out scarred and damaged, maybe skinny and like generally crappy, or even just plain generic. But every time you succeed at the porny task you get to fix something? Sort of a character builder but you have to earn the choices through actions.
Anonymous No.8836001 >>8836020
>>8835977
I feel you on this, I hate the ugly bastard genre of porn but it's a popular genre for a reason. Some people out there do like it. Any choice is going to alienate people who might prefer the other option so just go with your gut.
Anonymous No.8836020 >>8836042 >>8836091
>>8835987
>But you'll definitely want to get the basics of the game down first.
Right. My first task is to just set up a virual novel system. That alone is the meat and potatoes of the game. I know there's already an engine for that, but I'd really like to have some kind of a game attached to it, and from my understanding it would be easier to code both a virtual novel and some kind of simple game into something like Godot, than it would be to try to code a game into an engine specifically designed for virtual novels.

>Or they just get lazy and suck up patreon money forever
Summer Time Saga comes to mind. My eyes rolled into the back of my head when I learned they're basically redoing the entire game from scratch.

> I like this model but it looks like someone gave Vivi a boob job and a window to show it off.
I see. So maybe lean a bit more into lewd aspect. My original plan was to go for like 80/90% FFT with the remainder being lewd. I wanted the designs to tease the player until they got to unlock the sex scenes, since I wonder if showing off too much might dampen the reward.

>>8835997
Like would I play an eroge like that in general? I think the concept is interesting, but to me the game lives or dies by its visuals. If the protag was like a hollow from Dark Souls for a good chunk of the game I would not want to invest the time into it. Something more like a scrawny nerd character; then I could be tempted to play it.

>>8836001
Yeah. Unless I'm paid handsomely I really don't think I would have the gumption to make a protag like that. At worst I would go with the faceless goblin idea, but that brings me back to my concern of how many people would be turned off by playing a male goblin, as opposed to an ordinary human or halfling? If I were the player, I don't think I would be thrilled to play a male goblin, so I probably won't go down that route.
Anonymous No.8836042
>>8836020
Not a game dev but yeah Godot sounds like your best bet. Some people have done some pretty impressive work with VN engines like Ren'py (Monster Girl Dreams comes to mind) but if you're an amateur coder then you should stay away from engine work. It's complex and lengthy. From what you've been saying you'll just need some kind of scripted event handler wrapped around the combat, which could probably all be housed in some kind of menu system. Shouldn't be too hard if the logic is like Start/Continue game->Menu state->Event State->Combat State->Menu state. That's basically what Fire Emblem is, though obviously the combat far outweighs the start of chapter events.

>Summer Time Saga comes to mind
To be fair, I believe that their tech debt is catching up to them. I don't think it should be taking this long to finish, but hey, maybe it's really shitty code.

>I wonder if showing off too much might dampen the reward
Well, everything I said is just my opinion. Not like I can tell you a golden path to go down that will 100% work and please everyone. At this hypothetical stage anything could work if done right. Once there's an actual game it'll be easier to give concrete "Do this instead of that" feedback. And if you actually finish your game you'll be ahead of roughly 99.9999% of every other western eroge developer. But hey, maybe try a lewder version of that model, see how you feel. Could be good practice either way.

Anyway, I gotta start posting images to go with all this text so here's some fanart of a shortstack h-game called Paccsu
Anonymous No.8836075 >>8836080
>>8835977
you don't have to make the male goblin ugly
Anonymous No.8836080 >>8837101
>>8836075
I feel like they're inherently ugly, even if you try to make them more conventionally attractive. The goblin features work well for females, but for me they do the opposite for males. And if I give the male goblin more feminine features then we're kind of circling back towards futa territory. If you can find me some examples of a conventionally attractive goblin male I can consider it.
Anonymous No.8836091 >>8836095 >>8836136 >>8836256
>>8836020
>I wanted the designs to tease the player until they got to unlock the sex scenes
This is a good idea imo and the way it should be. I see so many uninteresting designs that are simply 'generic bimbo', and it's like, what's the point? Girl with giant tits and ass in a witch hat, wow, so appealing.
>I wonder if showing off too much might dampen the reward.
Exactly. What I wish more artists would do is try to incorporate the core design of characters into lewd scenes, like having them be in a state of undress, but still wearing identifying pieces of clothing to their design. Use aspects of the clothing to emphasize certain lewd acts. For example, with your mage here >>8835931, that boob window is perfect for emphasizing paizuri. You can then do something like having the cum spurt up from under her collar onto her upper face.
Also, like I was saying before, since the coat is such a large part of her design, you could have her keep it on while removing the hat and pants for any fully nude intercourse scenes. Alternatively, you could remove all her clothing, but still mimic the overall vibe of the 'masked mage' by throwing a pair of boxer shorts over her head so that they work like a sort of scarf. One could explain it away if need be that she gets off on huffing sweaty underwear so that's why she's wearing them like a mask, or go more the more vanilla route that she's just a silly gremlin wearing underpants on her head to cover her face because she's shy. You have so many options for building character just by using their design to inform their personality.
Anonymous No.8836092 >>8836136
>>8835795
>This thread aside I think most people wouldn't object to a futaxfemale goblin game because for me that basically scans as regular sex.
No.
Just as most straight people don't like pegging, it's not as simple as "dick in hole".

>goblin futa female protag
Who the fuck even is your target audience?
Goblins (the female kind) are a vanilla weg thing, and what you're describing is weg.

Godot is really good, check out Gwizz, he's probably the best tutorial guy.
He doesn't really do complete series like "how to make a 2d rpg in godot", but he does individual mechanics quite well.
My hatred towards futa is not as strong as my autism towards gamedev, best of luck, futafag-kun.
Keep us posted.
Anonymous No.8836095
>>8836091
>I see so many uninteresting designs that are simply 'generic bimbo', and it's like, what's the point? Girl with giant tits and ass in a witch hat, wow, so appealing.
I should iterate that I do not think this about your gobbo mage, I actually like it quite a bit, I merely intended to criticize lazy artists. What I mean is that generally speaking, if a character design can be cosplayed by the average thot for halloween as 'slutty (blank)', it's probably an uninspired design.
Anonymous No.8836136 >>8836917
>>8836091
That's a fun perspective, and I hadn't really thought about scenes like that until now. Thank you for the insight.

>>8836092
>Who the fuck even is your target audience?
People who enjoy futa and enjoy goblin girls I suppose. This is the first time I've heard of the term weg so I'm not sure what that means. I couldn't guess how many people might be in that camp of futa goblin enjoyers, but it's something I like so it's not going anywhere. Having said that, and having read the perspectives of people who dislike futa, I can definitely see the merit of having an alternate, non-futa, option so it's very likely I'll be including that too. It's just figuring out if I should make the male protag human, halfling, or goblin.

>best of luck, futafag-kun. Keep us posted.
I appreciate that, and I'm actually pleasantly surprised about the reception and feedback towards my ideas and initial concepts, even despite the pushback on futa. I've gained a lot of perspective on how I should approach this, and I'm excited to get this going. I don't know if I want to spam the thread much longer with my posts but I'll keep my eye on it for any more feedback and throw you guys worthy updates as they come around. Thanks again, guys.
Anonymous No.8836256 >>8836719
>>8835801
Hairy gateaux.

>>8836091
>Girl with giant tits and ass in a witch hat, wow, so appealing.

Please yourself.
Anonymous No.8836719
>>8836256
TT gets away with it in this instance because it's not a generic bimbo design - in addition to the hat, there is the obvious fact that it's a goblin, but you've also got other features to appreciate, like the glasses, jewelry, elbow gloves, stockings, cape, pigtails, and staff.

Were this a regular boring design, it'd merely be the the goblin girl in a bikini wearing a witch hat
Anonymous No.8836823
Anonymous No.8836917 >>8837484
>>8836136
>This is the first time I've heard of the term weg
Western Erotic Game, it's used for, well, western erotic games.
Thing is, a lot of WEGs are full of shitty fetishes like NTR, sharing, gas, piss, QoS, etc.
There's a bunch of futa games too, ofc.
VWEG was created because most people don't really like those, what I meant was, shortstacks/goblin girls tends to be a pretty vanilla fetish, while futa is not.
I don't think there's a big overlap between people who like futa and people who like goblin girls, but you know, half the reason to make a game is to make it for yourself.

>It's just figuring out if I should make the male protag human, halfling, or goblin.
Protag human would probably be too much work, you'd have to re-do everything for the scenes, and if that's not even what you're into, there's absolutely no point.
I wouldn't mind male goblin (assuming he looks as normal/cute as your female goblins do) but at the same time, I'm sure a lot of people would.
I think you're better off just making him a manlet and not mentioning it desu.
Not that it matters this early on.
Anonymous No.8836984 >>8836990
>>8835977
>One solution could be to make it more of a "silhouette" goblin protag, like you'll get the outline of him but all the facial features are obscured or made extremely faded
Faceless green manlet describes 99% of anons, so I don't see that being an issue for anyone here, lol

Personally I think the faceless halfling protag makes the most sense since it would mostly be a palette swap of your futa protag, with the only additional change being no tits

That said, it's your project, go w/ your gut
Anonymous No.8836990
>>8836984
>Faceless green manlet describes 99% of anons
True that.
Anonymous No.8837101 >>8837484
>>8836080
Had to go hunt down a pair of posts I saw on twitter a couple years ago, and stick the images together. Handsome male goblin is indeed possible. Also more monstrous female.
Anonymous No.8837196
>>8834408
there's a person in that butt
Anonymous No.8837233
Hi friends. Does anyone know of goblin related literature that features feral/semi-feral sex fiends that AREN'T written by Luffy?
Anonymous No.8837242 >>8837261 >>8839594
My internet's kind of shit, is it fine if I post a shortstack practice sketch through catbox?
Anonymous No.8837261 >>8837320
>>8837242
I guess? I don't see how having shit internet would make uploading an image saved on your desktop to catbox be any faster than attaching it to your post though, but I am a luddite so I wouldn't know
Anonymous No.8837320 >>8837409 >>8837592 >>8839594
Hoping this makes it through. Probably need to practice more, I still don't feel confident with head-shoulder proportion and hand sizes.
>>8837261
I've had the captcha restart its timer several times before and it gave me a headache. Maybe it's not my internet and it's just the captcha system itself.
Anonymous No.8837409
>>8837320
I'd say the head/shoulder ratio is about right for a shortstack character. They tend to have much larger heads and a near 1:1 head/shoulder width ratio is fairly typical. Hands look fine as well though I've seen a lot of artists lean on the smaller side to portray a more "dainty" look. That much is just preference though since you also get Warcraft goblins with big meaty extremities. I'd say you've nailed it, as there's nothing I'd really change without just nitpicking. Maybe finish the toes? Or if you want practice, try another pose or angle.

As for the captcha, yeah sometimes it just gets finicky. I've found that if I try to post with my VPN on, obviously I'll get bounced because 4chan blocks most VPN IPs. But even after I turn it off, I still can't post because the captcha will just break. It doesn't use a ton of bandwidth so if you can upload an image then I doubt it's your internet that's at fault.
Anonymous No.8837484 >>8837976 >>8837995 >>8838195
>>8836917
I'm convinced that a male goblin could work. I did a fairly quick mockup using that reference this friendly anon provided >>8837101 . I also think I agree that making a regular human would be out of the question as a simple matter of it being too much effort. A manlet human, or probably easier a halfling character could work just as well. I think now it's more of a matter of if you would be okay playing as a male goblin, or would you much rather prefer playing as a more human-like character?

As for pic related I took everyone's feedback as best as I could and I think I made some nice improvements, but I'm always open to continual feedback for the base design. Generally I tried to make everything on her a bit softer and got rid of excess details. I added eyelashes and eyebrows, gave her some tribal looking tattoos, made her hands,feet, and forearms a bit smaller, made her slightly more plump, separated out the boobs a bit, gave more definition to her areolas, and worked on her butt. The third image is the male version I tinkered with.
Anonymous No.8837592
>>8837320
Honestly like the other anon said, this is basically perfect, would fuck.

I also agree with his assessment of maybe touching up the detail on the feet, but also something about the eyes makes her look a little unhinged. I think it's because the iris is sitting a little high in the eye, and we can see the whites underneath it.
Actually now that I'm looking closer, the whole eye is a little weird; you have the pupil, iris, and sclera like any traditional eye, but either the iris is split into two parts, or the eye is sitting within either a deep eye socket, or an inflamed one.

Idk, maybe I'm over-analyzing it. Kind of a fan of the double-iris desu.
Anonymous No.8837976 >>8838234
>>8837484
I'm for a humie protag fren
Anonymous No.8837995 >>8838234
>>8837484
>would be okay playing as a male goblin, or would you much rather prefer playing as a more human-like character?
If I had to pick I'd say I would prefer a human male. I like the size difference aspect of human/shortstack interactions. Sometimes it's just for cute things like the shorties being unable to reach something on a high shelf and sometimes it opens up sexual possibilities like pic related. I wouldn't be totally against a goblin protagonist, and ultimately I don't think it's a huge deal either way, but my preference would be for a human male.

Also, nice job on the model revision. It's definitely an improvement
Anonymous No.8838195 >>8838234
>>8837484
Great work anon, and I'm not just saying that.

The only thing I'd take another look at is the bottom-most eyelash, since it seems to be more like putty stuck to the bottom of her eye than eyelash-y. At most, it should start halfway from the edge of the eye, not any further inward. 1/3 - 1/4 from the edge of the eye or less would probably look better.
Anonymous No.8838234 >>8838238 >>8838266 >>8838271 >>8838302
>>8837976
>>8837995
I'm internally debating if I should scrap the goblin protag idea and pivot to a human protag. There would be a couple of scene ideas I would have to axe, but it would also open up a lot more. The general story would remain largely the same and I would still be able to keep my futa ideas while also opening up to a much wider audience who want the male human protag role. It wouldn't necessarily be the exact game I would ideally want to make, but I think it would be naive of me to think that I wouldn't need to make any concessions, especially with game development. The biggest thing for me is being able to fuck goblins, so as long as that's the meat of the game then I don't think it's that much of a loss if you can't play as a goblin.

>>8838195
Good advice. I'll see what I can cook up.
Anonymous No.8838238 >>8838397
>>8838234
nta but if you want some references for eyelashes, twistingtoxic makes some very expressive ones on her goblins
Anonymous No.8838266 >>8838555
>>8838234
It's great to have an intended audience in mind working on a project. But sometimes you might have to make what you want to make and let the audience find it. "If you make it, they will cum" and all that. Don't let others dictate what you make, but if there's a good idea mentioned, go ahead and take it.

Also, I put the artist's name in the filename for that male goblin ref last night. O Corvo
Anonymous No.8838271 >>8838555
>>8838234
Just remember to make it for yourself first and foremost.
It's easy to get burned out while working on projects, specially when you're working on stuff you don't feel like working on.
I've gotten stuck so many times because of that, even simple mechanics can get tiring.
Anonymous No.8838302 >>8838397 >>8838555
>>8838234
>The biggest thing for me is being able to fuck goblins
Finally, an eroge developer who has their priorities straight. There's hope for you yet, anon.

As for the general mood of the thread regarding the protagonist, I think you should take it as advisement rather than a hard rule. If you're thinking about potential customers, then remember this thread has a pretty small population. That said I think shortstacks have a pretty broad appeal, we're just a segment of the "shortstack enthusiast" market. A particularly tragic situation to end up in would be to have a successful game that you're not really interested in because you had to make too many concessions. Maybe a good idea would be to figure out what kinds of content are common dealbreakers versus what's just a preference. Like you know if a guy is more of an ass man he's not gonna drop a game in disgust because there's paizuri in it. Same goes for a lot of stuff, but there are things people don't want to even casually encounter. Off the top of my head stuff like bestiality, NTR, or sexual gore.
Anonymous No.8838397 >>8838555
>>8838302
You're being too autistic about it.
He's just trying to find a middle ground, because futa protag is a turn off to a lot of people, that's it.
That, and the potential of size difference sex seems to have made him reconsider the short on short angle.

>>8838238
Shit, you're right, this artist is pretty cool.
Anonymous No.8838406
every day I am saddened that I cannot plap cute goblins
Anonymous No.8838555 >>8838762
>>8838266
>>8838271
>>8838302
>>8838397
While I like the idea of being a goblin protag it's not really a dealbreaker if I shelve it. It's important to me that I make a game that people, and myself, can enjoy. If I only cared about futa goblins I could commission an artist or make some myself, but as a people pleaser I'm totally fine bending my original plans if more people get to enjoy my work. This thread is really the only place where I've shown my ideas and work so it's not like I made these grand promises of a futa goblin game that would disappoint a bunch of people who were previously interested. So I think I'll end up putting away goblin protag and replace it with human. I'll still get to make futa on goblin content, but I'll also be able to appease anti-futa crowd too with a marginal increase in extra work. The main point of the game is to impregnate cute and sexy goblins, and that's not going anywhere so I'll still be more than happy working on that. I can always make another game with a goblin protag after, anyway.

Having said all that, I think I'm pretty happy with the base model. She was actually supposed to be the protag and then I would just model different variants off of her to make new gobbos. My priority will start to shift to refining my 2D skills. I don't think I'm terrible at it, but I could definitely improve, especially if I want to make porn. I need to try to avoid making it look like I'm tracing 3D models as well. I want to refine my style too; I really like that kind of 'colored pencil' look but I'm not sure if I'm doing it justice.
Anonymous No.8838762 >>8838912
>>8838555
>I really like that kind of 'colored pencil' look but I'm not sure if I'm doing it justice.
Would you mind posting some other examples of the style that you're trying to emulate? I'm not sure I'm familiar with it.
Anonymous No.8838912 >>8839466
>>8838762
It's such a unique look that I'm having trouble finding other examples. I'll post a catbox link below of one example I found to avoid wasting an image. It's got this almost controlled grungy look, mostly to the lineart and sometimes in the shading and coloring. The art is generally a little more loose. I really don't know if this style has a name so I just called a 'colored pencil' style because it reminds me of that. Even the old Final Fantasy Tactics concept art has similar kind of look, though they seem to use more crosshatching.

https://files.catbox.moe/vq09n4.jpg
Anonymous No.8838950
>>8833995
Not sure about the mouth. It seems too wide. Maybe it makes more sense with the dicks to scale
Anonymous No.8839171 >>8839543 >>8845447
I swear this picture is based off one of the characters from the weg Light of my Life
Anyone know if I'm right?
Anonymous No.8839466
>>8838912
Okay, yeah I thought that might be what you were referring to but I wasn't sure. I think the biggest difference between this image and the one you drew is the variable line thickness. There's a bit of line thickness variance in your drawing, but the gulf between major form outlines and smaller detail lines is huge in the linked image.

Take the archer woman's green cloak for instance. The outline of the gold trim at the very edge, where the fabric is above the upper sleeve, is a massive thick line. It creates the illusion of depth in the form, making the cloak look more 3 dimensional. The thick outline is like the edge of the cloth that you don't see because it's in shadow. So some lines pull double duty as both outlines of the major forms and shading work. Additional shading is done by fainter lines, like in the hair or on the tunic. But detail work, like the filigree on the cloak, might not be outlined at all. It's a hard style to pull off digitally I'd imagine, just because so much of it hinges on the variable thickness and imperfections you'd get from a real colored pencil. FFT art has much more uniform line weights but has a lot more detail in the shading.
Anonymous No.8839543
>>8839171
Damn she definitely kinda looks like it.

Great WEG btw, it's one of my favorites.
Anonymous No.8839594
>>8837242
>>8837320
Looks bitchin', do you have any more?
Anonymous No.8839745 >>8839751 >>8840196
People are still reposting my pumpkin goblin? thats crazy. have a doodle i made while stoned off my gourd last night
Anonymous No.8839747 >>8839751 >>8840196
still not the best at art, but i'll see yall on the flipside
Anonymous No.8839751
>>8839745
>>8839747
I love bottomless girls. Nice.
Anonymous No.8839760 >>8840196
she be flat, lol
Anonymous No.8840004
Chubby goblin and imp girls sitting on your face and crotch...
Anonymous No.8840196
>>8839745
>>8839747
don't sell yourself short anon, you have a very endearing artstyle that lends itself to quick doodles like these. you're able to give your gobs charming personalities too
>>8839760
flat is justice!
Anonymous No.8840205 >>8842559
>>8835795
>basically just scans as regular sex
It really, really doesn't. If you genuinely think this you need to take a short break from jerking off. Most people are actively turned off by a dick being on a chick, it is immediately and obviously interpreted as just fundamentally "wrong"
Anonymous No.8840207 >>8840218
>>8835977
You gotta face facts that 95% of your potential players will be male, and most males will want to play as a dude. Make him generic if you want, that's fine, but making it futa will actively alienate way more people.
Anonymous No.8840218 >>8840230
>>8840207
I'm not sold on that you know. I'd agree majority is male, but I'd lean more towards 60-75% male. Smut is just more commonly enjoyed by women, and I'd put WEG and VN games into the smut category more than the porn category.
Anonymous No.8840230
>>8840218
Look at the data anywhere. It's still mostly men, and in terms of making something you have to presumably buy but that you would need to download and commit to that's just dudes. Women may browse tube sights but they basically never buy anything and if they do it's all just trashy novels, not vidya. Smut is porn, that's a distinction without a difference.
Anonymous No.8840397
Drew this yesterday
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>>8841356
Cute
Anonymous No.8842559 >>8842609 >>8843512
>>8840205
I think most people are also turned off by jerking it to what are essentially very thicc midgets. This is a pretty niche fetish and while I myself don't care for futa, I feel like framing your argument as the position of "normalcy" is pretty odd. We're jerking it to gnomes and shit here, there are no normies in here.
Anonymous No.8842609
>>8842559
There's a bit of understanding though. Normal people can get behind huge tits and ass, even if the shortstack isn't for them. The fetish that is effectively just fantasy trannies, most people won't really be into it.
Anonymous No.8843383
>>8830649 (OP)
I'm namedropping Klebo_Stuff, OkGaki, and Flavour (flavoursarthole) because they all make fantastic art
Anonymous No.8843512
>>8842559
>what are essentially very thicc midgets.
This is just wrong.
Go look up midget porn, while their butt and legs are built exactly like a shortstack, nothing else is.
I WISH midgets looked like shortstacks, but they just don't.
Shortstack upper bodies are waaaay smaller than they should be, it's a stylistic choice that makes them look very cute.
Really, search up any midget pornstar, you'll notice their ribcage is way bigger than any of the sluts in this thread.
Shortstacks are way closer to short and overweight (in the right places) bitches, than to midgets.

>while I myself don't care for futa
>normal person.jpeg
I don't understand why futa fags are so insistent that "erm, your fetish is just as weird to normal people xD".
Like, no it's not, stop projecting.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with being into weird shit, just don't pretend it's not, and don't post it in places where people don't want it posted.
Anonymous No.8843613 >>8844927 >>8857162 >>8857266
Pop
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>>8844908
Anonymous No.8844927 >>8845659 >>8845893
>>8843613
I understand size diff is a thing people like, but good lord, that's literally like 90% of her bodymass
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>>8844908
>>8844925
made for bongo'ing
Anonymous No.8845402
>>8831514
I remember when he was a /frz/ regular, that's how I first got into his work. Good times, and he produced some amazing fanart.
Anonymous No.8845447 >>8845466
>>8839171
Reverse image search via SauceNAO reveals that this is David Haire's concept art of Zanya "the Golden Gobliness" for Iter Miniatures.
Anonymous No.8845466
>>8845447
His Deviantart username is Trollfeetwalker
Anonymous No.8845659 >>8845893
>>8844927
Yordle stretchy
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Anonymous No.8845893 >>8846484
>>8844927
>>8845659
Remember to consult the chart
Anonymous No.8846484
>>8845893
>tfw eternal
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>>8835801
>>8835117
She's saying "Husband, why don't you try [getting in the water]? It feels great~." It's got a bit of a bumpkin-ish 'twang to it. She's also saying "Husband" in a way that elevates the listener, so clearly putting them above her.
Anonymous No.8852668 >>8852988
>>8834732
>part of the appeal of goblin girls is you "taming a wild creature", it's a self insert fantasy at its core.
nta but for me it's always been more about having a sexually confident pocket rocket enjoying themselves
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Anonymous No.8852746 >>8853678 >>8854977
>>8852716
she's killed billions, maybe trillions
Anonymous No.8852988 >>8854396 >>8854639
>>8852668
That doesn't really change the self insert part.
Anonymous No.8853678 >>8855016
>>8852746
>trillions
doubtful
Anonymous No.8854396
>>8852988
I want to insert myself into goblins
This one specifically, and repeatedly
Anonymous No.8854587
OH FUCK YOUR GUYS ARE ALIVE?!
NEVER LEAVE.
I THOUGHT I LOST YOU.
Anonymous No.8854625 >>8854674 >>8854765
Long nose or long ears for goblins?
Anonymous No.8854639
>>8852988
Need
Anonymous No.8854674
>>8854625
Ears for me
Anonymous No.8854765
>>8854625
Ears, always. Long nose is only attractive to gentiles.
Anonymous No.8854977
>>8852716
>>8852746
The amount of cum that's been lost to Midna could stock sperm banks the world over.
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>>8853678
Trillions by me alone.
Anonymous No.8855189 >>8855453 >>8855467 >>8855565 >>8855607
If you want some insight on shortstack art.
A lot of it Anal focused.
Anonymous No.8855453
>>8855189
I like it.
Anonymous No.8855467
>>8855189
Considering they tend to be prolific breeders, goblin girls should be buttsluts as a form of population control.
Anonymous No.8855565
>>8855189
It doesn't have to be. Also cute forehead
Anonymous No.8855569 >>8855691
Project dump
I like a way a guy does his yordles (aki) so I'm gonna try to steal his powers
Anonymous No.8855607
>>8855189
>A lot of it Anal focused.
And that's a good thing!
Anonymous No.8855691 >>8857307
>>8855569
Evil Chromie looking good!
Anonymous No.8855709 >>8855786
>>8830649 (OP)
Hmm. I shall draw a goblin.
Anonymous No.8855786
>>8855709
hype!
Anonymous No.8856116 >>8856712 >>8857157 >>8863897
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>>8830649 (OP)
If anyone here is taking requests: https://postimg.cc/q6KjvBYW
Anonymous No.8856712
>>8856116
moo
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Anonymous No.8857157 >>8857207
>>8856116
Source? That fucking signature is unreadable, and reverse image search isn't coming up with anything...
Anonymous No.8857162 >>8860381 >>8862261
>>8832191
>>8835471
>>8843613

Why is Poppy far and away the most delicious Yordle?
Anonymous No.8857207 >>8857285 >>8857413
>>8857157
https://x.com/Klebo_Stuff/status/1932063242488009201?t=OqKmZv7bPrthWR_d-jgFZw&s=19
Anonymous No.8857266
>>8843613
Poopy
Anonymous No.8857285 >>8857413
>>8857207
huh you never know who follows you when you draw big butts
Anonymous No.8857307 >>8859905
>>8855691
Thanks!

Redid the vex face, think I was having a stroke
Gonna try to post here more again
Anonymous No.8857413 >>8857735
>>8857207
Thanks, anon.

>>8857285
You should post a wip here :v
Anonymous No.8857583 >>8858773
Vex
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Anonymous No.8857735 >>8857860 >>8857901 >>8857927
>>8857413
I mostly draw tall furry girls, so I didnt have any wips ready
this is specifically for you a non e-mouse
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>>8857735
>I mostly draw tall furry girls
Now hold on a second, I like those too
Blog?

Also, nice.
Anonymous No.8857901 >>8858043
>>8857735
Thicc. That shading style looks familiar btw, what's it called if you know?
Anonymous No.8857927
>>8857735
Chunky
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>>8857901
nto but its cross hatching
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Anonymous No.8858773 >>8859397
>>8857583
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Anonymous No.8859397 >>8860291
>>8858773
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/yht14v4ofgjyyde7wcg39/Season-of-Green.docx?rlkey=erle1nimwjltmjm11xw2ysg76&st=8wv905h2&dl=0
So, I wrote part of a first draft of a goblin tftg fantasy novel. I don't know when I'm going to get back to it, so I thought I'd hand it off to you guys, just in case I never do. Enjoy.
Anonymous No.8859835 >>8859859 >>8859907
>>8831760
They dont fuck off, where do you think these futadorks came from?
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>>8832180
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>>8859835
4chan
Anonymous No.8859878
>>8834303
>futa protag
Anonymous No.8859902 >>8859964
>is canonically short
>has a dumptruck ass
is he a shortstack?
Anonymous No.8859905 >>8860291
>>8857307
Redid face again. still trying to her to look apathetic
Anonymous No.8859907 >>8859913 >>8859959 >>8860322
>>8831697
>>8831760
>>8859835

22 years.

22 years this site has been up and you dumb motherfuckers still haven't figured out that getting loud and pissy about Thing You Don't Like instead of just ignoring it like a functional human being, just makes the people doing it, do it harder - because NOW they know it pisses you off.
Anonymous No.8859913 >>8859962
>>8859907
I see you finally got back from your vacation
Anonymous No.8859959 >>8860291
>>8859907
It's less mad and more an excuse to post all these reaction images i have saved.
Anonymous No.8859962
>>8859913

Yeah, I was out touching grass. You should try it sometime.
Anonymous No.8859964 >>8860199
>>8859902
for context I meant jerma
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>>8859964
that makes more sense
Anonymous No.8860291 >>8860311 >>8860938
>>8859397
>139 page single spaced story about a Knight turning into a goblin woman
Holy fuck I kneel. I don't read my porn, and I don't particularly enjoy tg stuff but good on you for writing something. Couldn't begin to tell you what to change for a second draft though.

>>8859905
It's a surprisingly tricky expression but I think you nailed it. Love the bush and the boob squish on the bikini strings as well.

>>8859959
This is just trolling. First you make a big stink over a single sentence comment from 3 weeks ago, then you dump a number of non-pornographic images just to fill up the image limit for shit flinging, all about something that isn't even being posted ITT. You hate futa? Cool, shut the fuck up. No one was talking about it or posting it. Take your reaction image dump to a worksafe board, and keep trolling in /b/. This thread has been perfectly pleasant and on-topic aside from the people throwing a shit fit over futa fetishists that aren't even in the fucking thread.
Anonymous No.8860311 >>8861398
>>8860291
NTA but...
>from 3 weeks ago
gatekeeping is not much, but its honest work. congrats to everyone and anyone keeping their board culture's safe.
>you dump a number of non-pornographic images
you dont have a collection a reaction pics you are dying to use?
>fill up the image limit for shit flinging
so? if theres anything important enough in the thread, we can keep it going in the next?

>No one was talking about it
yeah he was
>aren't even in the fucking thread.
give an inch, they'll take a mile.

tho props to the guy that every now and then brings up futa, he hasnt actually posted it iirc.
Anonymous No.8860322 >>8861398
>>8859907
No, I'm bullying some fag about his shit fetish. I'm not mad because I find it funny that they need to defend their tranny fetish. He gets banned for off topic eventually and it's great. I like baiting the faggots that like futrannies into saying stupid shit
Besides, keeping shit you don't like out of threads is how this place works. Theres a reason there's a bunch of boards. Furries got banned from most of the site. Futa is banned from a lot of threads on /aco/.
Anonymous No.8860381 >>8862261 >>8862577
>>8857162
>Talk
>Use Vagina
>Grab Arm
>press spacebar and scroll up all the way

20/10 GOTY
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>>8860575
>boobed midna
DELETE
Anonymous No.8860811 >>8860832
any sex outfit (that are good in heels) ideas for this poppy
Anonymous No.8860832 >>8860914
>>8860811
reverse bunnysuit
bunnysuit
shibari
office casual
Anonymous No.8860914 >>8861009
>>8860832
went with a dress!
Anonymous No.8860938
>>8860291
But I ain't throwing a fit?
Anonymous No.8861009 >>8861622
>>8860914
lol fair enough
Anonymous No.8861140 >>8861174 >>8862577
No staring, /ssg/.
Anonymous No.8861174 >>8861445
>>8861140
I'm looking respectfully for an abnormally acceptable amount of time
Anonymous No.8861185 >>8861204 >>8861452
I want to fight God for not creating me in a world where I can have a beautiful goblin wife.
Anonymous No.8861204
>>8861185
Real shame.
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>>8860322
>>8860311

>I'm not mad
Oh you're mad as fuck
Anonymous No.8861443 >>8861555
>>8861398
how could you possibly know that about him?
Anonymous No.8861445 >>8861621
>>8861174
How much time is that in exact units?
Anonymous No.8861452 >>8861457
>>8861185
sucks to be you because he he created me in one
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>>8861452
Based and same, I love my beautiful goblin wife.
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>>8861443
just r____t and ignore him
Anonymous No.8861621 >>8861631
>>8861445
tree fiddy
Anonymous No.8861622 >>8861632
>>8861009
Nothing about that is fair actually.
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>>8861621
How much is that in monopoly money?
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>>8861622
I mean it's kind of fair
Anonymous No.8861820 >>8861940 >>8861965
hello blender anon here, i wanted to make something with this midna model and i hope you all like it. here's the full res version: https://files.catbox.moe/qqjhq4.png
Anonymous No.8861940
>>8861820
>cute
>showing off plump thighs
Nice shit anon.
Anonymous No.8861965
>>8861820
Plump and gropable.
Anonymous No.8861987
>>8861398
This is cope
Anonymous No.8862151
>>8861247
>>8861246
dress press
Anonymous No.8862216 >>8862577
One more before the end.
Anonymous No.8862261 >>8862336 >>8862351 >>8862577
>>8857162
>>8860381
love the expressions in his game
Anonymous No.8862336
>>8862261
I wish other artists knew how important expressions are.
Anonymous No.8862351 >>8862404
>>8862261
Hope he can find time for GYYO - Vex. Also Poppy is ripped, it's kind of hot
Anonymous No.8862404
>>8862351
moistcavitymap will eventually finish the vex model but im more interested in his game progress, he said she'll be in the game too
Anonymous No.8862577 >>8862798 >>8862884
>>8860381
oh shit MCM made a game? i though that vid up there was just a spoof.

>>8861140
>>8860575
>>8862216
>>8862261
GREAT stuff.
Anonymous No.8862643 >>8862798
What game?
Anonymous No.8862798
>>8862577
>>8862643
MoistCavityMap, the guy behind Get Your Yordles Off series (arguably the best yordle porn with 20+ min high quality animations) said on his twitter he's currently making a yordle H game right now but it's still early in production.
Anonymous No.8862884
>>8862577
Blog?
Anonymous No.8863055 >>8865886
I ask that if anyone makes a new thread, please don't vandalize the OP (again)
Anonymous No.8863457
I saw a figure of a bunch of shortstack demons from Helluva Boss around a bigger demon on twitter and now I can't find it.
Anonymous No.8863897
>>8856116
The way this guy draws this cowgirl is next level
Anonymous No.8865803 >>8865829
Do you guys accept tv head shortstacks β€˜round here?
Anonymous No.8865829 >>8865832 >>8865886
Anyone wanna make a new thread? We're on page 11 and at bump limit

>>8865803
I guess? If it's just a non-standard head and otherwise on topic then it should be fine but I'm not exactly sure what you mean
Anonymous No.8865832 >>8865838
>>8865829
It’s just a shortstack with a TV head.

I’m only asking because I’ve seen a lot of goblin/orc shortstacks posted here, which I’m fine with
Anonymous No.8865838 >>8865841
>>8865832
Gobbos are like the baseline for these threads. They get posted so much because everyone likes them, not because it's all you're allowed to post. As long as whatever you're posting meets the criteria, go nuts
Anonymous No.8865841
>>8865838
Nice, onto the next thread then!
Anonymous No.8865886
>>8865829
I can't make the thread as I'm at work rn, but by all means if someone else can, go for it. I only ask >>8863055 and to link the new thread here