Thread 8862162

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https://www.tesgeneral.com/ [WIP]

Anon's Lewd Guide for Dummies
LE: https://rentry.org/oicfh
SE: https://rentry.org/vgxyh

Recommended skin and body suites
https://pastebin.com/HvTrE1Pj
Recommended mods for lewd screenshots
https://pastebin.com/r2eQfXCF

Recommended sites for outfits
https://pastebin.com/6KxFLs3b

Butthole Compendium
https://mega.nz/folder/tcQRRDpI#mS5iFtV_ReOlmXp4G84P_g
https://imgbox.com/g/D6Mwz8t1dx

Link to old OP
https://pastebin.com/CbKqUgf8

Elder Thread:>>8851905

best waifu here

>>8862268
>>8862269
make her tits bigger

>>8862268
post her being fucked in the pussy

>>8862269
nice wheyfu

>>8862279
when i actually play skyrim, sure
>>8862276
no

>>8862294
>when i actually play skyrim, sure
good. She needs to be reminded of what it's like to be a woman

>>8862028
You don't rike the pixie cut, fren?

>>8862381
It's not that, I just like the bob cut better.

>>8862514
That's fair, I'm asking because I was honestly curious, I'm often called a homosexual for liking girls with short hair.
I don't have a new screenshot today because I've been fighting with Windows all day in this heat to figure out why it suddenly glomped almost 20gb worth of disk space.

>synthiacancer literally in the op
Gonna be one terrible thread

>synthiaposter literally in the op
Gonna be one great thread

>>8862824
what's the significance of her womb tattoo necklace

I fucked with sliders and sculpting too much to the point of irreversible damage and had to build back from scratch.
Also, bobcut just for Anon.

>>8862826
just a silly little necklace to bring with your sacrificial goat and feathers

>>8862891
>>8862892
those legs are insane, in a good way

>>8862874
Nice.

where do yall find poses and anims? for futa stuff in particular. I dont wanna get a big sex mod I just want stuff I can use in SAM (anything poser hotkeys compatible works)

>>8862355
>>8862667
Newfag here, what body mod and what skin/face mods do you use?

Bathing time

...and feeding time

>>8863734
Ah hell, if you mean the female character she isn't mine but a follower. And the follower was made back in LE so honestly I'm not a 100% sure. I can ask the person who made them when they get online for you.

>>8863833
Thanks and keep posting more. I'm tired of seeing trash posted here, like the shit above.

>>8863796
god I love my wife's fat fucking ass

>>8863804
me next

>>8863856
samefag

>>8863734
>>8863833
Okay, so the waifu is bhunp and BnP skin.

>>8863796
That's fucking revolting

>>8863807
Post the one that looks like Ciri

>>8863936
Honestly it would be better if he didn't post at all.

>>8863804
>>8863807
Based hag

at this point synthiacancer might as well just make his own general so we can keep this one for the good waifus
fucking gross freak

>>8864227
This, he killed the thread.

butte

>>8864360
if I pull that mask off, will she die?

>>8864360
>>8864364
finally a good waifu, post more

>>8864433
Even with SAM, full nelson animations are a bitch to get looking right.

>>8864435
And done, not my best.

>>8864437
ye it looks kinda goofy. in my experience, skyrim porn is only good for missionary leglock

>>8864472
Well, I tried. Probably won't do full nelson in the future, unless I can really get it looking right. I'll just stick to cowgirl/doggy/missionary. Shame really, I think carrying/full nelson stuff would be something Snakestone would really like.

>>8864435
Animations is ten times harder to adjust especially when actors are not the same height.

>>8864527
Yeah I know, I'm trying my best to bring you guys somewhat decent webms here. Sometimes they might just not work out.

>>8864529
That's all /teslg/ asks for. Any garbage tier quality shit should be outright banned and shunned.

>>8864529
90% of mine videos didn't work out, so i paused them. Glad you keep recording videos!

>>8864532
I do wanna try to get Snake's balls floppy, but at the same time I don't. I really hate dealing with HDT/SMP stuff in general, especially in webms.

>>8864537
Thanks, I have alot of fun making them and I hope you guys enjoy them.

>>8864532
>Any garbage tier quality shit should be outright banned and shunned.
Like this post, for starters

>>8864548
Penis physics are usually rely on CBPC, config what comes with 3ba/bhunp is pretty good imho.

>>8864557
Just look at the stuff above snake. Straight garbage with no effort put in. I think even snake is tired of carrying these people. Quit riding so much dick.

>>8864559
Ah, I really don't know if I wanna mess with that stuff really. Might just have to deal with a case of static balls. Could always try to hide em in framing.

>>8864561
I agree, you should assist him by posting your webms as well.

>>8864577
No because I simply don't want or have too. I'm not going to be a shithead and screw up the thread.

>>8864581
You mean you can't, I know

>>8864369
It would be extremely pleasurable

Who are the best posters and waifus in you're opinion?

>>8864825
I like the barbarian girl with Erik poster, I like Snake's videos, and Ventra is pretty hot though rarely posted

By the Light! I must cooom

Does anyone still make sexlab anims for LE?

>>8864872
Billyy still does

>>8864825
in my are opinion best posters are the ones complaining about waifus and not posting any themselves

>>8864875
Link to the latest pack?

>>8864878
https://mega.nz/folder/JwMwXIaZ#Nto5Rp0h2sGWBOustE4yXQ

>>8864882
Based
Do you happen to also have a link to preview gifs?

>>8864894
nah

just passing through

>>8864921
I wanted to make a funny comment about her hips and thighs but damn her nips are fucking massive.

>>8864923
there are cold nips in the air
can't be good for my crops

>>8864921
Requesting a pic from behind and no cape smartass, I know you would do it.

>>8864921
what does her butt look like?

>>8864921
post more while you're here

>>8864923
like big ripe strawberries

>>8864925
I can tell she steals food and supplies from local farmers.

>>8864928
>>8864929
it's just a butt though

>>8864940
why are there skid marks all over her

>>8864940
post her bent over

>>8864941
run-in with gnome biker gang

>>8864940
How many birds did she let poop all over her?

>>8864946
never met them

>>8864953
consider yourself lucky
or unlucky

>>8864955
I'd rather not be sexually assaulted, so I guess I'm lucky

>>8864959
how unlucky

>>8864941
>>8864948
non-joke answer is that it's a mage armor effect mod. Don't remember what it's called though.

>>8864990
she has scars and the bird poop is snow from R.A.S.S
it doesn't melt because the mod doesn't have a way to differentiate between armor and buttnaked, because buttnaked body is literally an armor with no armor rating as far as the game is concerned

>>8864994
>R.A.S.S
It uses the same effect as that mage armor mod?

>>8864995
>that mage armor mod
don't know which one, m8

>>8864997
This one
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/27456

needed to take a look at that new softbody thing. this is fucking wizardry [spoiler]and also kind of ass, took me hours finagling outfit studio to restore some of the weights and sliders the creator removed, and unfortunately some of the weights like the arm twist bones cant be restored due to bone weight limits, but I at least ended up getting a version made that has all the base 3BA sliders with the softbody physics[/spoiler]

I never anticipated real-time boob physics working this well.

>>8864948
can i get a head preset? gimme the nif

>>8865004
not quite the same thing, but pretty neat, thanks
R.A.S.S shader textures are just 1024x1024 so shit ends up blurry

>>8865011
gross. don't post that shit here.

>>8865138
nice clipping dumbass. learn to use the hotkeys

I've been playing Morrowind again lately.

>>8865138
hot....
>>8865217
been having fun with it?

>>8865221
Yeah it's a great game, I forgot how fatigue constantly get in your way in the early game though.

>>8862162 (OP)
unga bunga me Dragonborn

>>8865012
Wow, someone that doesn't find my characters disgusting?

>>8865455
shes cute I like girls that look like they could be real people
she looks kinda weary, it implies an angle to her character that elevates her from just being goon material

>>8865140
Oh I love this moments when you 'resting' in bivouac with a companion.

>>8865456
>>8865455
now give me the head nif pls

Dumping some old stuff

>>8865489
Gotta blow off that steam from adventuring somehow. Nice to see webms from you.

My soul hurts
Serana is loud
I wish I was at home shoving stuff up my butt

>>8865531
more of her ?

>>8865860
only booted skyrim recently after a month long break so here it is

>>8866242
>>8866251
why delete, the post was fine

>>8866253
clipping. completely, utterly, absolutely inexcusable.

>>8866264
>clipping. completely, utterly, absolutely inexcusable.
Show those shitters how it's done. Faggots who post low quality trash should be shunned from here.

>>8866283
>Show those shitters how it's done
Because you can't?

>>8866251
>>8866264
And as always, follower when?

>>8866294
Not him but the answer is never ever

ISP throttling the everloving shit out of my connection today.

>>8866294
Does your character has a kink for Mers?

>>8866323
>Does your character has a kink for Mers?
Very much so.

>>8865641
I thought I couldn't fit into targeted filesize for videos but webm do job well.
>>8866264
Nice to see you!

>>8866330
need more of ms kitty

>>8866325
Perfectly reasonable, who wouldn't to nibble on those ear tips.
I wanted to post something but my own character decided to photobomb the screencap by blinking the moment I pressed the key, I need to start verifying them before resetting everything in SAM.

>>8866251
>>8866264
Is she a Bosmer or a High Elf?

>>8866389
Staceymer.

>>8866393
kill yourself

better without tats desu

>>8866330
>>8866264
>>8866251
i love these waifus

>>8866430
they're all orc food

GOD DAMN IT NOT AGAIN

>>8866403
Nice cock!

I couldn't find the old one with gold pubes, so I took a new one. Here's what I mean.

My wife.... Synthia....have you seen her...?

>>8866251
>>8866264
>>8866637
I love bimbos

>>8866665
shut the fuck up that's my wife you're talking about

>>8866637
Agreed, it looks kinda odd. Darker pubes are fine imo.

>>8866666
I have the marriage papers right here, pal

>>8866436
home grown nordic beef!

And with that Dawnguard is finally down, I'm glad it's over.

>>8866840
Damn, I love shiny asses.

>>8866771
Probably in the minority here but I think she’d look really good with a vagina

>>8866771
it does look much better without the paint in the way

By popular demand

>>8867089
>>8867091
A qt patootie

>>8866264
Outfit?

>>8866840
Nice.

>>8867091
Show us this one from ehind.

>>8866251
>>8866264
Bitch looks like a ukrainian girl from my work, except with retarded anime body

>>8866637
What would happen if I kissed her right on the lips?

>>8867209
>retarded
weird way to spell 'kino'

>>8866948
>>8867144
I'm glad you liked that one. And speaking of ASS, I wanted to scrounge for more borno pose packs but instead I have to get fucked over by my ISP who decided to throttle my download speed to 150 - 250kb/s, which is hellish. It made me discover that I can mess with bones more directly and this was the result, the original pose is H9P64 from halo's, which I'll post if only for the sake of posting the original.
I wish I could do the same with the expression though I'd like to make some ahegao.

>>8867224
Here's the original pose.

>>8867222
Well if she's already naked, you'd hopefully get more than that back.

>try to reply to posts
>"Our system thinks your post is a spam."
>reformat 50 times
>"Sorry it's spam, fuck off."
what a flaming fucking faggot designed this

>>8866294
blame tarkov. just when i thought i was out, they pulled me back in.

>>8866330
i really like the attention to detail in your shots and webms are no different. perfect looping and really nice expressions.

>>8867136
caenarvons wip

>>8867209
pls tell her i said hello

>>8866294
blame tarkov. just when i thought i was out, they pulled me back in.

>>8866330
i really like the attention to detail in your shots and webms are no different. perfect looping and really nice expressions.

>>8867136
caenarvons wip

>>8867209
pls tell her i said hello

>8866389
she's a ditzy high elf that was busy looking in the mirror rather than study magic

one more error and i will shoot this fucking website up. don't come to 4chin tomorrow.

>>8866294
blame tarkov. just when i thought i was out, they pulled me back in.

>>8866330
i really like the attention to detail in your shots and webms are no different. perfect looping and really nice expressions.

>>8867136
caenarvons wip

>>8867209
pls tell her i said hello

>>8866389
she's a ditzy high elf that was busy looking in the mirror rather than studying magic.

bimbofication at 50% >>8862824
at 100% >>8865531

>>8867425
see, this is why you can't make a follower, you're too much of a perfectionist for your own good

>>8867443
I love it. They need to make scene together.

>>8866330
Where is this animation from?

>>8867425
Is her preset available for public?

LOL

HD2

oh brooooother this GUY STINKS!!

>>8867549
>>8867561
better than the current OP

>>8867466
Billyy's pack, laying nelson.

>>8867425
>tarkov
That's a weird way to spell Skyrim.

>>8867597
You think Sexlab animations are better for webm creation?

>>8867600
I dont' know for real. Last time I tried ostim and osex was back then when it just released.

>>8867091
BUTTHOLE SHOT! BUTTHOLE SHOT!!

>>8867595
You just lurk around getting any chance to use that line huh?

>>8867657
Don't get upset when someone speaks the truth.

>>8867687
Good thing you aren't so I don't have to worry about such things

>>8867600
Billyys & Anubs' animations are fine for webm making despite SL's jank.

>>8867425
GOD I love bimbos, 10 out of 10.
>blame tarkov.
Thanks Nikita.

>>8863833
>>8864566
>>8865140

can you make webms of her pregnant and having pregnant sex?

>>8868057
I could try. How would I go about giving a follower a pregnant body without bugging the maker of said waifu to make a body for her?

>>8868190
You can use a mod like Manipulater to open NPCs in racemenu, then edit sliders there

>>8868304
Can you link said mod? Googling "Skyrim SE manipulater mod" is just giving me FormList Manipulator.

>>8866996
she might, though the world may never know
>>8867049
i'll keep it like this
>>8868304
nta, but link?
>>8868190
screenarchermenu might have sliders for it somewhere in it's menus.

>>8868316
it's on loverslab
https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/6288-the-manipulator-by-ffabris-for-se/

>>8868190
Just use a bodymorph option in SAM.

>>8867168
>>8867651
It's not the most inspired sight, I'm afraid. I could probably use a better body/skin than what I have right now (CBBE 3BA, Pure Skin 8K). I'm quite new to modding/screen archery, everything's very much a work in progress.

Such mischievous winds up north.

>>8868518
One more, a bit closer up.

>>8868518
>>8868520
Very nice. What body is that?

>>8868527
CBBE 3BA, custom preset and some RaceMenu morphs on top. The skin is The Pure 8K.

>>8868540
I don't suppose you'd post the bodyslide preset would you? It's a great body. Just the way I like them.

>>8868573
Sure.
files catbox moe/y1kkfi.xml

Build it as "CBBE 3BA Amazing" (though any CBBE shape will work, I think). It's not going to be the exact same due to the RaceMenu morphs, but it'll be close. Said morphs are
Breast flatness 1: -0.1
Butt round: -0.5
Butt pressed: -0.1
Butt narrow: 1.0
Butt shape lower: 0.3
Character weight 0.5, too. Plenty of variance between the extremes.

>>8868600
Hmm, catbox doesn't recognize that url.

>>8868625
try adding periods

>>8868628
I get this. Am I doing something wrong?

>>8868636
you forgot the files part

>>8868639
Got it. Thanks.

Why won't the regulars here post non-canonical NTR content with their characters?

>>8868799
how about you post non-canon ntr with your characters

>>8868802
I'm scared

What a great armor, certainly love it more than the previous one. Bit of a shame the gorget and tasset are clipping central even on idle.

>>8868946
Outfit studio go brrr.

>>8868368
>>8868390
>>8868517
Tried all options you guys gave me and Yarti's belly won't grow, infact none of the sliders work on her for some reason.

>>8868946
Tassets just get in the way of the fun.

>>8867425
>>>8867136
>caenarvons wip

Is it free or are you subbed to the Author? I'm actually looking for more outfits and I notice a lot of it is locked behind patreon these days. Maybe I could find it on f95

>>8868979
post a picture from the front as well ;)

>>8869001
Snakestone ntr when?

>>8869072
Not into that, sorry.

>>8869073
What if snake is going the cucking?

>>8869080
He's not one to cuck a man.

I got a question for you guys.
Since Nexus is being sold to a investment firm that love to monetize what mods should be immediately be downloaded before pay walls go up.

>>8869001
what a shame

>>8869085
I didn't know about that, neat, wonder how that'll unfold. Probably really badly.

>>8869112
Yeah, probably. That's why I'm trying to get a head start before things go to shit.

>>8869085
I wonder just how they're gonna gimp users. Monthly download limits?

>>8869091
Yeah, I'm real sorry anon. I tried.

>>8867747
that's generous, thanks. also thanks Nikita for completely broken audio on resort. very nice, very fun.

>>8867541
nope, she's a result of my slider work with tonnes of airheads as reference.

>>8869001
you need to install OBody and generate zeroed slider body with morphs. this way you can apply Yarti's body preset to the follower and edit it in SAM to your liking.

>>8869070
got it from a person that subbed. its' due to be released next month.

>>8867445
I HAVE VISION, nah but srsly it's being lazy and not wanting to solve certain issues. why sit in Race Menu for another 4 hrs when you can take booba pics?

>>8869210
>OBody
Don't I need Ostim for that? I'm still a sexlabcel.

>>8869229
nope, there's a standalone version that you can download that works with sexlab.

depending on which se version you use it might be a tad bit difficult to set up

>>8862604
>it turns out to be a good thread
this anon>>8862615 was on to something.

>>8869070
>Maybe I could find it on f95
If you didn't already look, yeah someone did upload it to f95
https://pixeldrain com/l/AMsEQ59c

>>8869405
Love seeing this cutie posted
>>8869233
Sex exclusively with the yellow one

>>8869001
>none of the sliders work on her for some reason
Follower does not have slider data (.tri file) that is generated along with the body mesh in bodyslide.
>>8869071
Key!

>>8869688
Post her getting pumped by redguards

>>8862162 (OP)
Is Sexlab still the best option for degenerate mods for SSE?
I'm talking defeat rape, bestiality, prostitution and all the other stuff.

>>8869711
Yeah.

>>8869787
Is there anything that should be avoided? I remember having problems with fertility mode in the past, but it seems to still be the go to mod for pregnancy.

>>8869790
I can't say anything about the Sexlab mods, I don't use them, but I had no problems so far with fertility mode.

>>8869711
yeah ostim by comparison is fairly tame compared to sexlab

>>8869299
thanks, I'll probably check out the patreon thread.

>>8870170
Where's the creampie and cumshot?

>8862165
>8862168
>8863165
>8864834
>8864832
>8864835
>8864882

Back to Azeroth you n'wahs!
Never should have come here!

Are my webms a tad too long? I feel like they are, what would be a decent length so it doesn't make Yarti and Snake's head just go back and forth to much. 10 or 15 seconds?

>>8870209
Ah hell, for cumshots do we have a decent Skyrim cumshot mod for sexlab? As for creampies, I don't know how to edit screenshots via gimp/photoshop to show off one. Never did that before. Sorry.

>>8870216
This I don't know if anyone knows something better
https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/2968-sexlab-cum-textures-remake-slavetats/

>>8870223
Thanks, next time I do some lewds I'll try to remember to enable cum overlays and get a screenshot for ya.

>>8870237
Thanks, appreciated.

>>8870378
well if granny is puttin out i don't mind puttin in

>>8870254
Alright, took two for you. One screenshot and one webm. The cum kinda glows in the dark, sorry about that.

>>8870254
>>8870398
And the webm.

>>8870398
>>8870399
Lol he is holding her like an onahole, that is very nice anon, thank you.

>>8870736
Anytime anon, I enjoy making webms so this is fun for me. Again sorry the cum is coming out so bright, not sure how to fix that.

>>8870747
It looks fine don't worry about it, it does look like you are having fun, maybe there is a very cum overlay but honestly it looks fine on her dark skin.

>>8870747
There is no fix for that

>>8870762
There is a cum overlay for racemenu on the nexus but, if I have to be perfectly honest, it doesn't look really good.

>>8870216
>Are my webms a tad too long?
doesn't bother me but 10-15 seems like a good shout. depends what render times are like for you. if you wanna get more autistic about it you could find the start and end of the animation and just capture one or two cycles so you could go even shorter and have it "seamlessly" loop

>>8868979
>>8869688
gold (and not the reddit one)

>>8869299
superb clarity. what ENB is that?

>>8870216
imo it all depends on how complicated the animation is and how easy is to get a decent loop. for perfectly looped clips even 5 seconds is alright, but if it's difficult to loop it then I think the ca. 15 seconds is alright

>>8868979
>>8869688
gold (and not the reddit one)

>>8869299
superb clarity. what ENB is that?

>>8870216
imo it all depends on how complicated the animation is and how easy is to get a decent loop. for perfectly looped clips even 5 seconds is alright, but if it's difficult to loop it then I think the ca. 15 seconds is alright

>>8869233
Sex with both the banana and chocolate elf at the same time with equal amounts of foreplay.

>>8870762
Well glad you like it.

>>8870783
What a shame really.

>>8871040
>>8871072
15ish seconds it is then.

>>8868946
i like this character.

>>8871165
Dhangs
Sorry I haven't made more I've been focusing on Morrowind lately.

>>8871191
Forgot to say, I got my dirty little mitt on another modpack but it's beast stuff. To be honest it's a bit too extreme for me, but I'm open to suggestions or requests, if they're within the realm of my capabilities and it's something you want to see i don't mind giving it a shot.
So if anyone wanna see something I can try to deliver. Just please keep in mind that if I don't I don't have any ill intent toward you or the requests, it's just that I'm not confident in my skill to deliver; I'm pretty inexperiencied with this stuff, but I do want to experiment.

>>8871163
can you get rougher with her?

captcha: GR0TA

>>8871381
more like Gross

>>8871384
yeah anon, I could see how it can be viewed that way

I just do what I want

>>8871322
Next time I do lewds I'll look for some rougher animations.

>>8871398
Sweet, ravage that elf make sure she learn who skyrim belong to.

>>8871410
raceplay is fucking cringe

>>8871436
t.breton

>>8871396
extremely poorly

>>8871072
Pi-cho for NAT III

>>8871322
>>8871410
Alright, so I went through my sexlab animations and couldn't find many listed as "aggressive", but I found a few. Sorry if they're not as aggressive as you may have wanted.

>>8871907
This one came out a tad rough with some small clipping I just wansn't able to fix.

>>8871908
And done, sorry for the small spam.

>>8871905
That's such a aggressive pose, not bad but I don't know if you can change the facial expressions, she's acting like nothing's happening.
>>8871910
Gotta keep quiet, lol. Nice.

>>8871929
Yeah, facial expressions is where I fall short sometimes. She was supposed to look surprised. I don't really like the sexlab animated faces cause last time I used them they looks really funny.

>>8871932
There's no lipbite or meaning?

>>8871941
moaning*

>>8871941
>lipbite
Maybe with SAM? SAM allows mfg/facial expression editing.

>moaning
That I could do probably. I try to in my webms but they're so small it might be hard to see that Yarti is moaning in some webms. I'll try harder next time.

>>8871945
Practice makes perfect anon.
>Maybe with SAM?
worth a try.

>>8871947
Okay, one last try cause I remembered the name of the animation. How's this? Went for a more "out of it"/"somwhat pained" look.

>>8871952
I think it works, just not on that position. Maybe if she was pinned against the wall.

>>8869233
>>8871094
the more the merrier

>>8871980
had more after this planned, but my rim crashed while tinkering with enb.

might have to swap cabbage out

>>8871945
>>8871952
>Maybe with SAM? SAM allows mfg/facial expression editing.
try as I might I never could get more "complex" or "fantasy" expression through SAM menu, I've half a mind to prep those in racemenu before entering SAM.
Maybe I'm missing something but as far as expression or anything related to the face is quite lacking in SAM.

>>8871821
Thanks anon, I wish I and these other posters were brave like you

>>8871978
Imagine humping against those yellow cheeks...

>>8871497
I don't know what to say to that but here's Hermoggionne

>page 7

BAKE BREAD
>BAKE BREAD
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Bit of an odd question (I'm not sure, considering the nature of this thread), but anyone know how to edit the .ini to disable camera shakes and animated kills?
I know you can disable ranged slow mo, which I've did, but I can't find the lines in the .ini to disable the camera going fucking nuts when you eat a shouts or a projectile, nor the one to disable animated kills like finishing moves and decapitations

>>8869478
I'm sorry I missed your post as I went to rest shortly after, but thank you, I'm glad you like her.

>>8872417
>>8872417
>>8872417
new

>>8872405
>>8872405
>>8872405
NEW

>>8872422
this one was made first

>>8872422
lol good timing. we can use your thread

>>8865217
Same. I forgot what a fucking slog early game was, especially when min-maxing. Still fun though. Waiting til agility reaches 60 to begin questing in earnest so I can actually hit something.