Shortstack General #244

Celebrating /ssg/ Artists Edition

Previous Thread: >>8787886

-THREAD GUIDELINES-

>No futa
>No gays, but lesbians are okay
>No racebaiting
>No gas or onara
>No drama
>No AI 'art'
>No weird shit that's too 'out there'

Post pics, stories, whatever you got that involves pocket-sized sex bombs, just be excellent to each other.

If you're an artist who draws shortstacks, what are you working on right now? Share what you're making!

Fairly recentish shortstack VN:
>https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/819465

Fanfics for nerds who read someone recently updated
The New Demon Lord patron reward
>https://www.hentai-foundry.com/stories/user/luffy316/49230/The-New-Demon-Lord-patron-reward
The Ratcatchers
>https://www.hentai-foundry.com/stories/user/luffy316/54100/The-Ratcatchers
Samina Cass:
>https://pastebin.com/xykRRUs3
Warcraft Goblin Story:
>https://pastebin.com/rDMbJrAP
Booru
>https://shorty.booru.org/

Thread question: What, if any, outfits do you like seeing these ladies in?

>>8865959 (OP)
I like OL shortstacks. I just like seeing them try to be professional looking with their obscene bodies.

I think I'm gonna make a few outfit alts, it should be easy

>>8866252
Nice

>>8865959 (OP)
>What, if any, outfits do you like seeing these ladies in?

nothing lol

But really, as a goblin fan, I love seeing them in everything from grungey slutwear to prim office lady garb. They suit lots of different fantasy / medieval archetypes. Some anons like primitive goblins wearing little more than a loin cloth or furs, but that's not my cup of tea. Gnomes suit eccentric clothing, Halflings longer, more modest rustic clothing and you can't beat an impractically short blacksmith apron on a Dwarven lass, with or without ornate shiny armour pieces and jewellery.

Modern and fantasy clothing is cut to frame and accentuate the female form, and with their obscene bodies shortstacks are arguably hotter with some clothing than completely naked.

>>8865959 (OP)
(Actual) Previous Thread: >>8830649

>>8866252
nice! looking forward to it

Does this still count as shortstack?

Love this artist's work

>>8867406
Yordles always count.

>>8867972
That fucking soul brat again!

>>8868478
I keep seeing her on a deltarune thread on /vg/

>>8868478
Really want to rip her out and "proceed" with her

can you recomend arists similar to twistingtoxic and KXII/zankuro

or other muscle big breasted thick short stacks. looking for good drawing references for starting drawing

is there also that shortstack archive floating around?

>>8863457
I found it again, if anyone cares.

>>8869141
unironically happy 4 u

>>8868699
>is there also that shortstack archive floating around?
Well there's the booru linked in the OP dedicated to shortstack art. But Gelbooru has something like 7k shortstack images to look through. Not sure about your other question though, I haven't seen a lot of artists on the level of Zankuro.

>>8869141
Looks alright, I think I just don't like the designs on this show. You know if this guy does 3D model commissions? I've been meaning to paint a nice shortstack figure at some point.

Imminent paizuri

>>8869174
>Looks alright, I think I just don't like the designs on this show.
Yeah, I agree with that, but naked demon imps still make the pp hard.

>You know if this guy does 3D model commissions?
Not right now, but he does. It's GeneralButa on Twitter. (sorry I didn't say in the last post)

>>8869339
Nice, if this guy doesn't charge a fortune I'll probably ask him to make a 3D printable model for me. I'll have to keep an eye out for any openings.

>>8869141
Aren't the horns like that supposed to denote males in that show? I've never actually seen it, but that was the impression I got.

>>8868478
Found an other one

need goblin onahole wife

>next to no porn of Shantotto
Do I really need to comm something myself?

>>8870856
Probably

>>8866252

>>8871851
it's peak!!

>>8871851
very nice

>>8871851
Nice work man, I love the transparency on the dress

I've been waiting since I think may for tanukiibomber to drop more goblin lewds

>>8871872
>>8872026
>>8872229
ty lads
Here is the WIP finale after that poppy and the previous Vex
I normally dont like drawing sex but this was a funny idea I wanted to try. "Dick in a box magic trick" or some crap. Also easy. Ill make it a patreon exclusive piece but I'll also post it here whens its done idc hehe

>>8874092
god bless, thanks cran

>>8874092
Keep up the good work!

Practice. Also I appreciate the responses from before but I got busy (the imp sketch from previous thread). Will keep practicing.

Intrusive thoughts.

>>8874883
lookin' good!

my only gripe is the head is a little big/the neck is a little thin (I assume that's typical for yordles tho), but other than that, good work!

>>8874883
>>8875543
Going to slightly disagree. I think the head size is good, but it's the lower half that's too small. Her arms are too long compared to legs, so slightly widening the hips and lengthening legs by 5-10% at most might do the trick.
Otherwise I also say good work!

>>8874092
Good shit, very based. I appreciate the thread favoritism and the cooperative shortstack paizuri. Never played League of Legends but I appreciate these characters

>>8874883
Nice, glad that the feedback is actually worth a damn. I'm not an artist (In the pencil/paper way anyhow) but I actually have some formal training in art analysis/critique so I'm glad that I can give back to these threads in some small way. Good to see you took the advice to practice more varied angles/poses, it's a great way to practice. You have a name for this girl?

>>8865959 (OP)
just a sidebar, but show some love to trink >>8850641

>>8865959 (OP)
If anyone here is taking requests: https://postimg.cc/c6Mtf4Qt

>>8876006
>sketchy link
post the image or use catbox

>>8876085
Catbox has been having alot of issues lately. It's not like it's the only website that can be used for (temporary) photo hosting.

>>8874883
Do you have a blog for art?

>>8874883
friggin adorable, op. i have no constructive feedback because I'm so enamored with this as it is.

>>8875543
>>8875721
I tried to combine both notes. I think need more time with head-shoulder proportion. And then watch the neck width too. Thank you
>>8875780
No name, they're just generic gobs for practice. Much appreciated
>>8876176
I'm not good with names lol. boneshears_03

>>8874092
Just amazing. I love your painterly colors.

>>8876676
Yeah, looking good! That little bit of length on the leg makes her look way faster, and the bigger ass shows the muscular form very well. The neck definitely helps, but still think the head was ok sized before. Doesn't make her worse by being smaller so I'll just chalk that up to personal taste.
Only ignorable critiques otherwise since they aren't really worth changing for this pic. Noticed you didn't do the back leg, but that's not important. And with the longer legs her dust trail would be slightly lower.
Love it!

>>8876676
very mischievous, I like it

Finished my gnome! :D I need more shorties to draw for more practice

>>8877821
Looking to fulfill a request or do you just want someone to throw out a character to draw?

>>8877821
this
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=3755189
but with a shortstack of your choice
(if you're looking for a specific shorty, midna or tox works imo)
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=tox_%28twistingtoxic%29+

>>8877821
yordles (i like poppy most)

Imp

>>8879873
expressive! someone get her a cuppa

>>8874092
I did not know you had a recent piece for vex. Could you post it here?

>>8879964

>>8881350
>Both. Both is good.

>>8881350
I will take left Ashley.

>>8876676
>>8879873
Do either of you take requests?

>>8879873
made for spooning

>>8880956
Nice work. Yordles are always great.

>>8880956
nice bush

Poppy WIP

>>8882199
heaving udders

Forget this heat

>>8882199
Done, did some inkin and color
Happy Poppy :D

>>8882636
>>8883041
lewd ToT
>>8884116
artiste?
>>8884494
cool!!

>>8884524
>artiste?

Look up "Foresttherotten", their stuff gets posted from time to time.

>>8884784

>>8884854

>>8881639
>>8881902

ty
more wips
more tani is next

>>8884784
I knew it looked familiar, thx!
>>8884979
cuute

As an artist, what exactly are you guys looking for in a short stack drawing? I just never hit with any of my shortie stuff and I don't know what I'm doing wrong exactly. Tell me what you like and look for to make it worthy at all?

>>8886156
Show us the "wrong" stuff you've been doing and we can more accurately tell you what we want more/less of.

>>8886232
I did this
>>8884494
I know it's basic but I think I'm just failing at it in general

morchie

pubeless (cowards) alt

Also commencing the Tani's

>>8886156
Everyone here has a different specific set of likes and dislikes, but I'm fairly certain at least one thing is common. A sense of personality. Looking at the image should have some insight into the character shown. It's real easy to make porno poses and faces (I mean, for artists). But to have the character personality show through an image makes a huge difference. As an example I've given in the past, Midna is the perfect example most of the time.
Now if you mean just physically, I like big hips, medium thighs, proportional feet, slightly longer and thinner arms and fingers, pointy heavy breasts, short pointes ears, and angular features whether triangle, pentagon, or diamond shaped. Also green. Goblins and peridot hit my tastes perfectly

>>8886343
I don't want to come off as insulting but I think the biggest issue is just the raw quality of your drawing. I like the face/hair, it's cute and expressive, but the body falls short. The hands especially are kind of bad, but most of the forms aren't right in one way or another. I went to the @Pyxses account on Twitter (Which I assume is yours, I couldn't find anything under that handle on Gelbooru) and I think your other work is much better, though your general composition is fairly basic. I particularly liked the Argonian drawing, it's got a good understanding of forms, shapes, and even a nice pose with the spear behind her back. I get that this Poppy image might've just been a quick piece as opposed to something conceptualized and drawn over a few days, but quality is paramount.

The sad reality of art when it comes to "success" is that even for pretty basic metrics like "Followers on Twitter" you're at the mercy of an extremely competitive market. Maybe 0.1% of people who regularly post get more than 500 likes on any given post. I'm not an illustrator, but I've posted some of my figure work on Twitter and I think I average about 5 likes. That's fine for me, I rarely use Twitter and have a pretty niche field even within my hobby, but it's just how it is. You can try to game the algorithm by posting regularly and trying to engage with other accounts but ultimately the open art market is a cruel mistress. It's not enough to just be "good" you have to be great, and even then you typically need some kind of edge. An X-factor that makes your art stand out and keeps people coming back. For shortstack stuff this might mean an OC that really catches on or being able to do one aspect of the fetish really well. Though again, a lot of this is luck-based and can really depend on you being able to please the algorithm. You have to both find your audience AND make sure they're seeing something they love

>>8887135
Man I feel like a dickhead for typing some of this so I'll try to answer your original question; What do I look for in a shortstack artist?

My favorite aspects of shortstacks is that you can manhandle them. They're little bundles of tits and ass that you can sling over your shoulder or comfortably support with your penis alone. I like that male domination aspect, but another thing I appreciate about the genre is that most shortstack characters are hornballs themselves. I like maledom, but not necessarily BDSM or rape, so a girl that's eager for sex is always a nice bonus. So I'd appreciate an artist that can really nail that kind of dynamic between a strong, big dicked guy and a small-yet-curvy girl who are both into each other. I'm not picky or demanding about this dynamic, and I can appreciate when it's inverted for more "power bottom" characters like Midna. In fact I do like the teasing aspect that a lot of shortstack stuff. But as a general rule I like the dominant man/voluptuous female dynamic. If you're looking for inspiration, Vammzu has a few image collections that display this well.

>>8887135
Okay, subject's probably not for me then I'll pursue something else

>>8887189
nta but i'm still interested in what you have to draw, so if you find a corresponding general to post your drawings id love it if you linked it

>>8887189
Cmon now, I'm not trying to scare you off or discourage you, I'm just saying how I feel. For what it's worth, I think you're a good artist with a lot of potential. It's just that it's not easy to grab a big audience or improve further unless you're willing to practice a lot, which by necessity means laboring in relative obscurity for a long time. But this applies to almost everything. Most business owners don't start seeing profits until years after they've started their business.

If you really want to not do shortstack stuff anymore then fine, life is short and you should draw what you want. But you've got potential and you shouldn't squander it over feeling like you're not good enough to even try.

>>8887203
I'm not discouraged, though I'll never draw a character standing forward again, I thought I had practiced enough to get the gnomish body type right but by subject I mean these characters, poppy, midna etc I just dont know them and how they are.

>>8887222
>I thought I had practiced enough to get the gnomish body type right
I think you definitely understand how to draw the body type, some of the other stuff you've posted on twitter shows good understanding of shortstack proportions. A lot of people just draw them as short girls, but I think you get the "chibi but not quite" aspect pretty well.

>these characters, poppy, midna etc I just dont know them and how they are.
Not sure what you mean by this. Like you don't know the characters and how they'd act well enough? Or you don't feel confident drawing them? If it's the former, don't worry so much about that. I don't know anything about League of Legends but I'll always show up for a yordle picture.

>>8886156
As another anons have said, it's not just about height and body proportions, for shortstacks it's also about their personality and expression. If your 'stack lacks character, she'll always come across as flat, no matter how big a pair of boobs you put on her.

Shortstacks are still a bit niche as well, though the increasing popularity of goblin girls baffles even me, they still haven't set the world on fire (not yet anyway) and we have detractors that I won't mention here. All I'd suggest is you keep working on your art for your own sake. I hope you don't give up on drawing shortstacks, but continue to learn anatomy and perspective rules so you're better able to break them later.

>>8886462
Holy smokes.

>>8887317
Would

>>8887318
I would any goblin

i like to think goblin girls have a high rape ratio

>>8887572
...giving or receiving?

>>8887625
Receiving because they're small and easy to handle

>>8887625
Giving because they jump anons thinking they're an easy lay.

>>8887741
Can't rape the willing

>>8888139
You could've replied that to >>8887627 and it would be no less accurate

Goblins are dangerous creatures.

Lucky she has this sign, I'd hate to get confused or forget.

>>8889468
Goblins can't Triforce

>>8889059
who?

>>8890339
If you know then you know!

>>8890339
https://x.com/Pinky_Bow_Tie/status/1941055441121022323?t=27CuMpvOgwiWpkh31fGjoQ&s=19

>>8890380
it was looking good until the comical distension
still probably gonna zerk to it tho
>>8890893
>>8890966
thanks :)

>>8890966
Maybe we should send this to Gordon Ramsay and ask him to fill in the blanks.

>>8890986
>it was looking good until the comical distension

Anons are going to mock me for complaining about realism but unless the guy has a wrought-iron cock and Poppy is actually a sentient balloon-animal the distension does look silly. Sure shortstacks can be "stretchy" but they're no made of rubber. Apart from that, yeah looks great

>>8891825
These proportions -- no matter what size -- is the ideal female form.

>>8871123
If no one's making any i should give it a try

>>8893334
What a cutie.

I've been mulling over a story idea, in which some guy goes to sleep in a blizzard and wakes up in a jungle on some other world. Pretty much 'A Princess of Mars' type deal. He goes out exploring, saves a gobbo from being devoured by marauding lizard people and things go from there.

Would anyone be interested in something like this, at all?

>>8893913
I guess to add more details, the world would be a mix of something like Caves of Qud and the native cultures of South America pre-discovery. Everything is very tribal and low tech with hints of past greatness here and there, but nothing implicit. Plenty of horrible creatures and strange happenings, alongside a healthy dollop of horny feral goblin sex.

>>8893334
Nice

Before...

>>8895966
...and after.

canonical mainstream shortstacks?

>>8898196
>mainstream
Midna... and saying she's mainstream is stretching it.
Tinkerbell? Definitely not a short stack by modern definition, but could conceivably qualify.
I mean, short stack is a niche. Not being mainstream is basically the definition.

>>8899238
She used to be mainstream, but you know how time goes.

>>8898196
There's a few, but you kind of have to be willing to stretch the definition of "mainstream". Like, is Ilulu from Dragonmaid mainstream? It's popular enough but not Zelda levels of mainstream appeal like with Midna. Same goes for the fairy girls from Raymond Origins/Legends. Outside of Yordles/World of Warcraft goblins and Midna there's not a lot. Maybe it's just changing cultural norms but I feel like people are more prudish these days, so you get less "stacked" characters in general. For example Peridot or Amethyst from Steven Universe have the right proportions (Short female, large head, somewhat stubby limbs) but neither of them are particularly curvy outside of fanart. I find the fetish is more western but when I think of recent shortstack characters Japanese names start coming up, mostly because of probability. You can still make a girl curvy in the Orient, and some of em end up short as well. Though personally I think characters like Uzaki-chan and that chick from Working!! stretch the definition of shortstack.

>>8899238
>Tinkerbell?
Nah, minigirls are a different breed. You could conceivably fuck a shortstack, but unironically a major theme of the Peter Pan story is that Tinkerbell can't be fucked.

>>8899383
>I feel like people are more prudish these days
people are sluttier than they've ever been, they're just a whole lot more eager to bandy out accusations of PDFelia since there's almost no repercussions for doing so, and people are dumb enough to believe it

Where do you think you're scrolling?

Now, put the cum in the goblin and everyone leaves happy.

>>8899483
God, I wish this happened to me.

Does anyone use spicychat.ai? I'm trying to make a shortstack chat bot but it doesn't to work.

>>8900497
Not spicychat but if you want to have a shortstack chatbot just download/use SillyTavern with a shortstack character card. I guarantee there's a lot of characters out there, and if not it's easier to make your own on a local model. What issues are you having with it anyway?

>>8898196
>canonical mainstream shortstacks?
Give it a year when vox machina gets the goblin thief.

>>8895967
Someone post the uncensored version.

>>8893913
most people dont seem to be interested in writing in general, but i would sir.

>>8902851
Took me a while to realize this goblin is heavily, heavily pregnant

>>8898196
There's a few. On the anime side, characters like Ilulu from Dragon Maid, La Brava from MHA, and Hana Uzaki come to mind. Games lack obvious main characters but they have a lot of races that are depicted as shortstacks sometimes, like goblins or Lalafells from FFXIV. Characters like Midna and Rouge the Bat are the only ones that come to mind right away.

It's been mentioned before, but what qualifies as a shorstack is contentious because of the range of proportions and body types. If you personally stretch your definition wide enough, technically things like an on-model Judy Hopps would qualify.

>>8903163
Pregnant goblins are the best goblins

Anyone know any other shortstack eroge? I know about a few shortstack characters in larger h-games like webm related but I mean a game focused on them.

Vex

>>8905257
Sex

i had a midget fwb once, shit was cash because of my obvious shortstack fetish, then she wanted to take things further. as if im gonna be seen with a midget lol, easy come easy go
anyway thats my blog post

spooning w/ your shortstack gf on a lazy summer morning

>>8899483
So, they are holding him at knife point.....so one of them can suck his cock?

"Oh, No! The Peril!!" ^_^

>>8908051
You should probably still do as they say anon.

>>8909002
Is this TT?

>>8909083
No it's Stopych. Were you thinking of this one?

>>8909480
Nah I didn't have any specific piece in mind, both their styles just seemed similar enough
>big sharp eyes
>angular eyes with thick lashes
>well endowed
>piercing(s)
>goth/grunge clothing
it looked pretty similar to one of Tox's original styles, way back when

>>8909983
big sharp ears*

>>8911326
ngl that's actually a sick logo

>>8911632
I think I hate everything about this image
I miss squash gobbler

>>8911326
Need the Goblin forever.

>>8911326
Art aside.
That logo fucking slaps.

>>8912111
It's a legitimately good logo.

>>8911606
>>8912111
>classmate repeats your joke to uproarious laughter moment
:^)

What would be the best software if I wanted to make shortstack characters? I can only think of blender but idk if it's good for stylized characters.

Anyone remember the name of the japanese artist that had a shortstack that was like a living Ichimatsu doll or something like that? I remember she was white with a mob face kinda.

>>8912606
While not great, you can use sims 4.

Using these mods:
GODJUL1's Height Slider (extreme);
Expanded Head Size Range (to make it look cuter with the smaller height);
Breast Augmentation;
PeachyThicc;
Candy Shoppe Skintones (if you want unnatural skin colors);
Khitsule pointy ears (self explanatory);
Luumia's vanilla skin;
Cmar Breast Separation (good for customizing tits further);

If you know about sim modding then you can just get the usual body mods, but if you don't, get either EVE V9.2 or Luumia TIT-E.
There's infinite custom content so you can get pretty much any clothing you can think of, the downside is that the height mod means sex animations don't work.
Still, if you want to create a character to use as a reference, it's not bad.
There's also ATLYSS, but there's barely any customization on that (other than tit and ass size).

>>8912606
If you're trying to make 3D models from scratch then Blender is perfectly fine for making stylized shortstack characters. I've seen people do that online plenty of times, and there was a guy in here a few threads ago that was doing 3D shortstack models in Blender. The real trick is just learning how to 3D model, and figuring out how to texture those models so they look good. Blender might not be "Industry standard" but it's honestly pretty close. I've used both ZBrush and Blender and aside from the fact that Blender is free (You can just pirate ZBrush) I find Blender to be much more user friendly.

The only difficulty I had was that a lot of good, stylized, character-focused tutorials were based in ZBrush. It's been a while but I don't remember any specific tool that Blender lacked, but like I said feel free to pirate ZBrush.

I think a shortstack gf consenting to being used like a tenga onahole is hotter than >rape, and I'm tired of pretending it's not

>>8913855
Enthusiastic consent is the thinking man's kink.

>>8915957
pomnigga?