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>No QoS/Blacked
>No NTR
>No Futa
>No Gay

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>>8894340
>>8894347
Do they also have surfer chicks?

I'm glad I didn't like A Petal Among Thorns that much, reading about the incest genes gave me MGS flashbacks.

Yippy yay, there'll be no wedding gobs for today

I've got WEGs that jingle, jangle, jingle
As I go fapping merrily along
And they post, oh, ain't (You) glad you're single?
And that troll ain't so very far from wrong

>"(I've Got Spurs That) Jingle, Jangle, Jingle" by Gene Autry

>>8894791
This game has some really nice outfits.

>>8894819
Holy monster-cock Batman, it's as thick as his forearm.

>>8894825
>marrying a guy with thick arms and a thick cock

>>8894812
Thorns is the comfiest of the games, just skip through the scenes with the uncle and you're pretty golden.
Incest genes and Sentient AI start with Moment of Bliss.

pale carnations update when?
eternum update when?

>>8894913
2 weeks

>>8894913
Eternum is about 3 months away

>>8894939
This game has the worst kind of sandbox, what a mess.

Why are there no good 3d sandbox games?
2d has summertime saga, love & sex, among many others. 3d has nothing of value

My wife.

>>8894980
What value does sandbox actually offer? Last game I played that had one that didn't annoy me was Shattered Minds.

>>8894980
Wrong thread, the one for shitty sandbox games is /weg/

>>8894989
non-linear story lines. I hate vns that force me to go through boring girls just before i can finish my true girl

>>8894993
>see game on esl95
>90% of the gobbos look like shit
>time to play this!

Can we stop using MW Neus in the OPs?

>>8894996
Op just reused my crap from the thread before last.

>>8894989
It offers the peace of mind that you'll never have to play it again to see other routes because you can't hit 'tab' to skip through it during replays so you simply don't replay it.

>>8894996
You have to realize there is only like 5 people in this thread and one of them loves MW Neus

>>8894999
I used MW Neus as the last post in existing threads because it has like 40 references to baking and bread for some reason. I never used it in an OP. I don't know if that's what started the trend, but it's really not worth the OP showcase spot.

>>8894980
MIST and Desert Stalker are sandbox wegs. Milfy City is also one.

The last thread was on page 10 and I don't save random weg images so I made a new one with the material I had
You're welcome

>>8895004
For me MIST has got to be the best implementation of sandbox and minigames in WEGs. Of course neither would mean anything without the great atmosphere.

>>8895003
I'm not sure what's the best ending, with her being normal and having lots of children with the MC, or the two girls or the three girls. What is your preferred ending, Anon?

>>8895027
>take 5 steps
>fight a monster
>take 5 more steps
>fight another monster
>leave because you’re out of stamina
the perfect porn game

>>8894913
PC is atleast another 6 to 8 months away from the next update

eternum has one update before the end of this year

I was cucking Rowan
Down at a place called 4chan
With a girl named MY WIFE Sage
When in walked a jan
With a ban in his hand
And he was looking for underage.
He said, "Hey there fellow,
With the pink colored channel,
What you tryin' to prove?
'Cause that's my general there
And I'm a jan who cares
And this might be all for (You)."

I said, "Excuse me."

I was scared and fearing for my thread.
I was shakin' like Whiteleaf on a tree.
'Cause he was lean, mean,
Big and bad, moot,
Pointin' that ban at me.
Oh "Wait a minute, anon,
I didn't even want her.
Don't wan no trabble with (You).
And I know (You) don't owe me
But I wish (You)'d let me
Ask one reply from (You)."

"Oh, won't (You) give me three posts,
Gimme three posts a-anon,
Gimme three posts towards the board?
Gimme three posts
Gimme three posts a-anon,
And (You)'ll never see a-me no more
For sure."

Well the crowd coomed away
And I began to pray
And the OP fell on the floor.
And I'm telling (You) troll,
Well, it ain't no stroll
Staring straight down a three-day-er.
Well he turned and screamed at MY WIFE Sage
And that's the break I was looking for.
And (You) could hear me screaming an archive away
As I was headed out towards the board.

"Oh, won't (You) give me three posts,
Gimme three posts a-anon,
Gimme three posts towards the board?
Gimme three posts
Gimme three posts a-anon,
And (You)'ll never see a-me no more."

Show me the blue board.

>Gimme Three Steps, Lynyrd Skynyrd

Do gobbos really think a dick feels like 3 fingers?

>>8895049
>knowing the difference between how a dick and three fingers feel inside you
sus

>>8895049
Poor dude lol

>>8895038
I enjoyed it for what it was, you can minimize how often you do that by choosing plenty of resources as an option in the start.

>>8895061
>it's good gameplay if you pick the option that lets you skip most of the gameplay

>>8895065
Never said it was good, I sad I enjoyed what was there and if you hate it you can minimize that stuff and focus on the rest of the game.

>>8895067
>Never said it was good
>>8895027
>MIST has got to be the best implementation of sandbox and minigames in WEGs
I know you're gonna start pulling out semantics so go ahead and have the last word about how that totally doesn't equal "good"

>>8895028
My dick says the triple with the milk truck succubus, but my heart says the normal one.

I wish there was more games like MWNeus.

>>8895070
Sandbox generally is shit, MIST is as good as you can reasonably get and even then you aren't forced through its entirety.

oh hey look, someone decided to do the obvious thing to avoid text/image overlap and go ultrawide, let's check this o-
>femMC
>no incest
>minigames
>unity
>curb your enthusiasm theme plays

>>8895072
>>8895028
What, can you not have a wholesome baby-making harem with multiple of them at once? Off the backlog it goes

I got tired of Mist around the time you rescue your sister

>>8895077
I think all the endings have them all knocked up.

>>8895079
So why don't you like the multiple ending? Is it less romantic?

>>8895080
Even though they're all technically aspects of the same girl manifested physically to the point they all have synchronized orgasms, even when you're fucking two of them in the bathroom while the last one stayed at the table is and trying not to cum her brains out when the waitress stops by, it still feels disingenuous.
One girl, one boy, totally devoted to each other.

>>8895085
Ah the ole doctor manhattan shtick

>>8895077
Yeah as the other Anon says I think all endings or most of them you have them pregnant and multiple kids.

>>8895027
Masters of Raana is pure sandbox, but I'm kind of annoyed with the New World Order quest atm.

>>8895091
does the dev still have a million lines of code dedicated to preventing incest or has he stopped being a fag

Frens in Sneed updated. If I'm understanding the changelog correctly, he's now approximately three-quarters of the way through the 'remaster' of the first seven chapters? Am I hallucinating? Is this real? His supporters haven't abandoned him?

>>8895094
>wait I remember that name
>look it up
>oh right it's the weg where the main LI is a literal tatted-up prostitute who you have to take back in after she rejected you years ago

>>8895095
i just ass-raped her at every opportunity, not sure you can still do that though
the model/actress, the blobbo and the as-yet-only-teased sister were what drew me

>>8895094
Did he ever even release the dark version of the chapter 1 remake?

>>8895099
I don't think it exists, is the thing, he took out the customisable ages (or idk, maybe capped them at 18) and there was talk of no grape. May not even be able to decide what sex-nickname the blobbo's asshole bf gave her. I'll probably check it out later on today, can let you know if you really care.

>>8895041
Seriously? PC gets 1 update/year?

>>8895108
Let me know but if I can't turn Nicki into free use rapemeat anymore I might just drop it. I was looking forward to purchasing Brittani from her mom too but I'm guessing that's out now. Does the new update add any new content or is it just the remake?

>>8895141
just remake as far as i can tell, like the changelog doesn't mention anything new and it's still chapters 1-7 as opposed to the 11 it was at when remasterin' time arrived

>>8895099
>>8895108
I just checked the thread and the 1-7 remake is the Subscribestar version so let's hope for the best.

based gaem

incest is a low IQ fetish

>>8895169
Which fetish is high IQ?

>>8895172
Hair fetish.

>>8895176
Euphoria had few scenes like that with Rinne.

>>8894993
mot sandbox games are still linear but with a bunch of pointless clicking required to progress the story.

>>8895172
handholding

>>8895169
fetishes don't have any IQ valence

>gorgeous body
>1 retarded tattoo to ruin the whole thing
many such cases.

>>8895182
This has been debunked

>>8895182
This has been rebunked

>>8895191
>tattoo over vag saying 'tight pussy'
textbook self-negating statement

>>8895049
I've gotten a few "three fingers is too much" comments from women, so I imagine they definitely know assuming they're not loose.

>>8895078
>I got tired of Mist around the time you rescue your sister
100%. I dropped it when it became obvious the dev was milking and dragging the game out as long as he possibly could. And I was playing when it was [Completed], so I technically could have finished the game. I just got so fucking bored with it.

>>8895241
I forgot what game this is but I remember it annoyed me somehow.

>>8895179
Was that game ... Helping the Hotties, I think? ... where the sandbox options could be replaced with menus. It gave the player the choice. That was fucking amazing. That's how it should be done.

>>8895180
sick fuck.

>>8895255
Correct, you could toggle sandbox at any time in the settings so if you wanna replay for a different route you don't have to re-navigate yourself everywhere. Since the option was given I actually had a comfy time in the sandbox, good game overall even if MC is a bit of a faglet.

>>8895209
She also fucks MC the first time she met him, so clearly not 'tight' in the slightest.

I overheard my mom one time talking my sister, who was like 15 at the time, about the subject. I missed the front end of the conversation, but I imagine it had to do with dildos. My mom was telling her to never, ever use a dildo because it destroys tightness and no guy would ever believe she wasn't a whore. Just to use vibes/massagers on the outside. I clearly remember that because it was something I'd never considered before. Now, every time I see a dildo in porn, I'm "no, no, don't do that..."

>>8895260
>I missed the front end of the conversation, but I imagine it had to do with dildos. My mom was telling her to never, ever use a dildo
well yes one would imagine it was about dildos in that case

>>8895260
haha yes anon, dildos
your sister was totally still a virgin at 15

>>8895270
>only virgins use dildos

>>8895275
0 reading comprehension award

this thread ams dildos

>>8895279
it actually follows logically from a strict textual reading of what you said, while clearly being orthogonal to your intended meaning
this is what is known in my culture as 'joking' and is intended to prompt a response we call 'laughter'

>doubt.jpg

sad gob

>>8895161
>playing the censored version

>>8895191
>he doesn't know that she erases her tats after meeting you.

Devfags, girls wearing an open shirt is underused. Better if it just barely covers their ass.

>>8895415
>indecent clothing
no thanks

>>8895415
>an open shirt
specifically, YOUR open shirt

Incredible how a dev can take the seemingly main LI and make me want to throw her off the balcony.

>>8895443
Well yes I didnt think that needed to be said. A close second is giant hoodies, far more underused.

are there any other good games where Sage's model is used?

>>8895478
There's something off about her skin color

>>8895478
>Incredible how a dev can take the seemingly main LI and make me want to throw her off the balcony.
Never play Daughter for Dessert.

>>8895524
is it the shadow?

>>8895562
Idk the mix of brown with a blush pink undertone looks unnatural somehow.

>>8895478
So can you still rape her or what

>>8895649
yeah

>>8895682
Neat

>>8895260
>Bringing up his sister and mother discussing using dildos and vibrators in a porn thread where there is incest themed wegs are being discussed.
You've masturbated over your sister haven't you Anon? My Spider sense is tingling about you.
You have masturbated over the thought

>>8895808
Bullshit, having the incest tag on your gobbo game and actually thinking about real family members are completely different things. Fact is simply that sometimes when you grow up with your family you end up hearing things you kinda wish you hadn't, for me it was about my sister and her friends discussing the uncomfortable consequence of fingering another girl with fake nails.

>>8895854
Did you fuck her friends? I lost my virginity to my sister's friend.

>>8895857
None from that group of her friends but some others. The ones from that particular conversation were pretty ugly.

>>8895113
it used to update atleast 2 a year
but with each update it's taking longer and longer because of all the convoluted different paths and different romance options bs

Incest is a fetish and therefore not vanilla. Leave the thread

how far away is summer heat update

>>8895919
10^100 years or even 10^1000 years

>>8895920
summer heat death of the universe?

>>8895923
bingo

>>8895892
Stop repressing those desires, anon. You know you want some hot landlord/room-mate action. And, yes, incest is perfectly fine here. See the OP.

>>8896034
Her design is amazing, why the fuck did that slavic retard turn her into a massive bitch?

Conan Weg when?

>>8896105
Is Conan public domain?

I saw the Genesis Order is no longer available on Steam. Is this something with that game in particular or is Steam finally purging porn games?

>>8896146
no
Plenty of porn games still around

>>8896146
Gaben is finally clamping down on RPGM shit

>forced sex scenes with characters you don't give a shit about
Just stop this shit

Daily Lives of My Countryside - sounds like some absolute fun little weg but ACTUALLY the most headache inducing weg out there with the shittiest walkthrough i have ever seen(color coded all the wrong elements) even the dialogue cuts to dogshit at a certain point full of 5yo grammar mistakes.

the only good aspect of this cute sounding weg is the straight shota, at first the game seems to progress just amazing after u played 3 days it goes absolute fucking grindfest (EVEN WITH THE CHEATS)

somebody please do a supercut of the story with the all the scenes included (IT WILL TAKE YOU 2 weeks) i gave up after 3 days because it went from porn game to "use cheats and grind" game.

the fact that the dev makes u think this weg is kinda ok the first 2-3 days ur playing it and then starts dropping you those nasty boring quests that are consuming half the real day (with cheats) is so fucking bizarre.

i have never played a grindier weg than this - do not recommend wasting time on it.


yes i can complete it but there are so many better wegs out there that don't drop you useless grind shit for short scenes.

>>8896152
this is why sandbox is the svperior format

>>8896170
somebody should definitely make the Daily Lives of My Countryside weg into a 3h supercut movie and cut out all the bullshit. (this will take somebody a week or two)

Mombros, r8 the following:
MC and his mom are fucking (not the initial fuck, this is settled-into-routine), he cums and says he wants to leave it in. She indulges him, laughingly asking why and he tells her wants to do that a lot, wants so that eventually he's cumulatively been inside her that way for longer than during gestation.
Seems like, kind of hot, but also like, maybe too absurd? Thinking about ways to prevent people just dropping after the first fuck.

>See a weg on esl 95 after browsing through the catalog
>Looks promising
>Nice renders
>Story set up seems ok
>VN or Sandbox both I'm ok with
>Go to see more information
>Look at tags
>Netorare
For fuck sake, why the fuck do devs do this?

>>8896231
it appears to be a popular fetish

>>8896232
I'll never understand it.

>>8896233
me either but it's not like i "understand" per se anything i'm not into
even feetbros are an enigma to me

>>8896230
>I want to put my dick inside your for a cumulative 10 months
Honestly that just sounds like a joke to me. I'd say you can try some milder fetishes as options for later scenes. Basic stuff like blindfolds, light roleplay, a leash or some rope. You could still offer vanilla scenes if you like for those who don't care about further fetishes.

>>8896232
It's not, it's just that there a lot of cucks who will scream at anyone and anything to include their disgusting garbage. When the dev is a mouth-breathing retard, he complies.

>>8896235
>Basic stuff like blindfolds, light roleplay, a leash or some rope.
Thing is, none of those have ever stopped ME from dropping after the first. Never been specifically into them, though.
What about:
Daughter who initiated has a set of 'records' she wants to be #1 in, most times fucked, longest time spent inside of, physically furthest inside of (whispered; most times knocked up, what, no I was coughing!) and the like?
>>8896237
>It's not
>it's just that there a lot of cucks
I mean, brah
brah
braaaaaaah

>>8896239
Having daughters be competitive against the mom, sisters or just other girls is a great idea but if you tie it to numbers it might come across overly autistic. Like, is the daughter keeping a notepad on what she and the other girls did and when?
You can create some interesting scene just with the right character dynamics, some girls being really into the sharing of (you) while others are more competitive and wanna keep you for themselves. You could even play around with roleplay between the girls, some being given sexual authority over another and the other way around.

>brah
Most people despise ntr but the cucks are disproportionally loud because they are disgusting freaks that want to ruin the enjoyment of others. So while there are generally few of them, most of them are screaming cunts.

>>8896230
reads esl enough to be a hit on f95

>>8896242
>other girls
In this specific scenario there are no other girls and the relationship with the mom is a loveless zombie marriage where they've cordially despised each other for years.
>Most people despise ntr
I mean sure, but I've got news for you about incest and jailbait, you know? 'Popular' is what generates revenue.

>>8896237
>It's not, it's just that there a lot of cucks
so it's popular?

>>8896239
>whispered; most times knocked up
This one's kind of weird. Unless you're going to have a bunch of unclaimed babies in the house, is she going to have a bunch of abortions or what?

>>8896247
loud doesn't mean popular

>>8896246
Plenty of games crashed and burn because they included ntr and the cucks didn't buy it up to make up for the losses.

>cordially despised each other for years.
A shame, having a wife of gf is pretty rare in games and it could be extra fun if they decide to support the MC for whatever reason. Have you played Petal among Thorns or Lost at Birth? It can give you some inspiration for eager daughters. In general making her competitive can be pretty interesting, you could have her almost flaunting what she does in front of her mother for example.

>>8896254
She's your only kid so she wins at kid 2. As to the notepad stuff, she's just keeping score in her head, like she's run the numbers. That specific notion I happened on like we cut to a sex scene during a glorious period where the bitch wife is away on business, MC sitting in the bath, face-to-face anal with her calves on his shoulders, and her saying she's read this is the way that achieves, by X-millimetres, the deepest possible penetration (no idea if that's true and who cares). That would then prompt the chat about records.
>>8896256
>Plenty of games crashed and burn
And Big Brother removed Eric, turned to shit and crashed and burned. And the only remake that had legs was the one that focused on Eric, all the "No Eric!!!" ones died on the vine.
I know we're living in the Age of Bullshit and everyone thinks they're part of the Marketing department now so you'll never concede the point, but it sells, plain and simple. Is it a market leader, the number one choice? No, but there's a market for it and nothing to be done about it.

>>8896256
>A shame, having a wife of gf is pretty rare in games and it could be extra fun if they decide to support the MC for whatever reason.
See, I play so many incest wegs that it's really quite normal to have a wife and especially one who's into it, not as common as being a widower or divorcee but it's a standard trope.

fucking calypso is gonna get pregnant before the main girls at this rate, baka

>>8896265
>I play so many incest wegs that it's really quite normal to have a wife and especially one who's into it
Really? I know that Parental Love has it, technically New Memories but that wife is in a coma, then there is SSP but ultimately I feel more games have the wife dead or divorced than not.
Can you give me some examples yourself?

>>8896269
a lot of abandoned ones and ones, like SSP, that i dropped because they went full paedo, like buried desires, and corrupted love i think it's called, would count as it was clearly headed that way, but i'm the bad guy too bc ok she's the other guy's wife but she's your chick and again, headed that way

Why do so many games feature incest?
Do players always have to play as a character who is a motherfucker?

>>8896277
Almost no game features incest, it's mostly landladies

>>8896277
heap and easy taboo that you can throw into you game if you feel like it. Since the relationship is already forbidden it's a lot easier to make it interesting, unless the dev is retarded.

>>8896277
>Why do so many games feature incest?
For a while there, it was beginning to look like maybe 20% of people worldwide were absolutely cuckoo-for-coca-puffs for hardcore incest. More granular analysis suggests it's maybe 1-2% of people, but we're all like, demented, like shit-in-your-hand-and-smear-it-on-the-walls LUNATIC for it. We PAY, we hand over actual HARD CURRENCY in exchange for it, that's why there's so much of it. That and the scenarios are cheap for 3DPD, it's just someone's home, no props or costumes needed.

Incest is popular cause you start with a pre-established relationship and get the taboo of turning it sexual. Childhood friends work just as well to be honest

>>8896308
>Childhood friends work just as well to be honest
no they don't, and cousins are boring and shit, and stepshit is boring and shit, fostershit is boring and shit, the only thing that isn't boring and shit is actual incest

>>8896308
Nothing taboo about childhood friend, you could almost call it the essence of vanilla.

>>8896310
It literally doesn't matter whether it's your tomboy sister who you used to wrestle with or your tomboy childhood friend who you used to wrestle with

>>8896269
Also Midlife Crisis (RIP)

>>8896268
and that's a good thing

>>8896269
Corrupted Love has a girlfriend who's into it, it's very silly how you coerce her, and at the current stage she only knows about 1 of 6 or so gobbos you're fucking

>>8896313
i mean ok, doesn't matter to YOU so i guess you're not into incest
i promise you it makes all the difference if you are

>>8896242
>Having daughters be competitive against the mom, sisters or just other girls is a great idea
we need much, much, much more of this.

>>8896369
like moms who initiate, it's an inexplicably untapped market

>>8896246
>the relationship with the mom is a loveless zombie marriage where they've cordially despised each other for years.
been done to death. make them both in love with him. much more interesting.

>>8896373
>been done to death. make them both in love with him. much more interesting.
give me five examples because i cannot think of a single weg where the wife is present but despised
like midlife crisis began as that but the dev fagged out and started forcing the wife on us
that's literally all i can think of, no way in hell is that 'done to death'

how big is the weg market overall?
a million?
ten million?

>>8896263
>And Big Brother removed Eric, turned to shit and crashed and burned.
it crashed and burned because all the players fucked off and lost interest as soon as the dev started that shit. no one stayed around. in fact, this is the first I even heard that they removed him because I, myself, fucked off and never looked at that game again.

>>8896380
3.5 roughly

>>8896381
you lie like a fly with a booger in its eye
i was there and pledging, i shit you not, $40 a week, fuck off with your lies, there is no check coming from the anti-NTR marketing department my friend

>>8896385
>$40 a week
month, but you get me

>>8896385
>$40 a week
kek do cucks really?

>>8896387
>does not attempt to persist in the lie
that's ok, mock me if you like
i know it must be like 30% of your autismbux handout, it's nothing to me because i like have a job and shit lol

If the other parent is dead, divorced, unloved, etc, then that's just background story. That's not actually part of the story. It's boring and they might as well not be there at all. What's interesting is when the parents are together and the drama that unfolds between the daughter and that triangle.

Anyone played Inanna Revenge? It has a lot of content for being 0.2. I've been looking for Elf stuff and this seems pretty great. Of course the negative is the dev makes sharing scenes like Desert Stalker though like Desert Stalker they are optional and few (still no excuse in my view but the dev is French I think so what are you going to do). You can also tell the dev has put some thought into decisions and choices, the combat isn't egregious also for a Renpy. Also the girls all look good and their personalities are not unpleasant.
>>8896385
>pays for wegs

>>8896385
>>8896389
Hold on, you were paying for Big Brother of all things? Anon I get your point about disposable income but seriously, give to charity or something.

>>8896385
You're clearly a HUGE fun of being a cuck, so you are probably in that cuck-circle where the only people you talk to is other cucks. EVERYONE hated Eric. And they fucking bailed on the game. Your opinion is tarnished by all your associates being cucks.

>>8896397
if all the non-ntr people left the community, then obviously the only people left would be cucks, which would explain why he thought everyone loved cuckery

>>8896396
you're not remembering how good the models were for the time
it was like three years before the median standard caught up
>>8896397
i just don't really give a shit, thought it was an interesting story, wanted a game where you had to fight another guy off and accepted that meant he had to establish some actual possession of territory
you're obv one of the cretinous shitters that destroyed the game with your endless whinging, congrats on that, you ruined other people's fun and gained nothing for yourself, that's gonna be the pattern of your entire life i expect

Damn man, hasn't it been like 8 years? How does this niBBa still have buyer's remorse

>>8896406
i don't have buyer's remorse, i have 'guy who was buying something and then someone else walked into the shop, laid down on the floor, shit their pants and refused to move until the cops had to be called' remorse

So what games have the wife/GF initiate the incest? They start it off?

>>8896404
>how good the models were for the time
That's fair. I'll be honest and declare I'm not looking to get involved in your cuck/notacuck argument but you should probably just let it go, the fact you've started with the psychoanalysing shit shows you are getting too involved. Though of course you could always ignore me or call me a fag, that would also be fair.

>>8896416
Not exactly the same but in Parental Love your sister (girlfriend) does a lot of the pushing for incest and if I recall correctly gaslights your wife into being cool with it. There is also Desert Stalker but I'm not sure that counts as incest is utterly acceptable and already happening so it probably won't hit the same note.

>>8896420
Parental Love was lucky that it was such a kino game, cause "it turns out the MC was always into incest and in fact already fucked his family members before the story started" is a SHIT trope

>>8896421
>"it turns out the MC was always into incest and in fact already fucked his family members before the story started" is a SHIT trope
so much this
>oh hey you know that fetish about how forbidden and universally-reviled this thing is
>well
>what if ACTUALLY
the only thing worse than pre-existing incest is
>oh you two are fucking, our son and daughter?
>well actually WE'RE brother and sister TOO
>and so were OUR parents
>and so were THEIR parents
etc like fuck off

>>8896421
What annoys me is the fact there is a whole new story there, if you want to go for that theme then make that in part 2/your second game. A couple of cutscenes with an ominous mother figure making you kiss your sister is just awkward.

>>8896421
There are very few incest games that dedicate a significant amount of the time to the actual story, which is hotter than the sex. For example, Haley's Story drops like 6 hours of build-up illustrating the two coming to terms with their forbidden love before they really start acting on it which is why it keeps getting mentioned despite the game being shit in the long run. THAT is what makes incest hot. It's the taboo, not the dick-in-hole which any other game can do. But how the characters are dealing with it all. The majority of that interesting story takes place long before anyone consents to grabbing a boob, yet alone fucking. And most money-grab incest games glass right over that which makes them forgettable.

>>8896427
>average sister and mother over the course of a month start fucking you presumably because they saw your baguette dick when you were sleeping
So tiresome.

>>8896427
Problem is that the very concept of the family gives you most of that shit for free, so devs get lazy
Well you just need to say she's your landlady, now it's implicit in the backstory that she had a nurturing relation with you, so we can skip right to her seeing your dick when you're sleeping and suddenly becoming horny

>>8896430
Any dev trying to weasel around with that landlady/room-mate shit will always make a shit incest game. You can't simply swap the titles around and make a compelling story.

>>8896444
You could write the entire script with the proper titles and then just replace them before release so that patreon and credit cards don't twist their own panties.

are there any wegs with serious stories

>>8896760
Depraved Awakening and Mist do, Bad Memories also has some serious topics.

>>8895478
Nicki and Carolina look so much better in the remade chapter. I hope he brings back that design later.

>>8895392
incest in that game doesn't make sense though

>>8895865
Update is taking a long ass time because they're not splitting it. They took 6 months on just the stuff before the exhibition, so it's probably 6 more for the exhibition itself. Next update after should hopefully be faster.

>>8896170
>only in it for the swimming instructor
>her questline is locked behind another character's questline
>second character's questline is further locked until you're 75% done with the aunt's questline
>at multiple points in aunt's questline, you can only progress at a specific time of a specific day, IF the corn is ready to harvest and IF it's raining
It boggles my mind that anyone has ever considered "VN with extra steps" to be a good format.

>>8896914
The powers of autism can be used both for good and evil.

I feel like so many weg are just low quality AI slop with no care in the world. I see a lot of games now using very similar models for their images/3dcg. Story is garbage as usual

>>8896926
Imagine being so new you think the existence of DAZ assets is AI

>>8896927
DAZ has been mostly AI slop for awhile now. They have AI tooling even to help make 2D. Sorry coomer, but your shit isn't unique or well made.

Why do so many wegs come without galleries? Is it really that hard to implement that the same modder dude has to make it every time?

>>8896933
I have played dozens of WEGs but have used the gallery maybe 4 times total.

>>8896935
>download slowburn weg
>check gallery to see if the main gobbo has a sex scene yet
>see that she has
>look at the scene
>coom
>uninstall game
Saved myself like 5 hours

>>8896937
just look at a fuckin r34 site then

>>8896950
Nope

>>8896926
a fitting reward for weg piggies who constantly scream for updates, no quality, no consistency, just slop after slop to jerk off and move on

>>8896380
well you would have to see sales from steam and then total patreon from the biggest devs, it would probably be a bitch just to try to get such data cause it can be so random

Replaying Away From Home, did he remake the early chapters to make the mom look less ghoulish?

>>8896760
Kind of depends on your definition of serious, or how balls-deep you are in the WEG scene. If you're just starting out, City of Broken Dreamers is serious. I'd also throw out Leap of Faith though it's slightly blended with slice-of-life, but it will jerk those tears out on the first playthrough. But both of those are top-shelf and usually the first games people go through.

>>8896914
What makes it confusing is that the visual novel format has been perfected for decades. We know *exactly* what works best and 95% of commercial Japanese VNs follow the template for exactly that reason. This is why creative types always have publishers to keep them on a leash.

>>8896933
Maybe 1 out of every 10 times I might visit the gallery for a particularly hot scene. Last time I did that was (pic related) in Personal Assistant when coked-up Kennedy went a little crazy cucking her sister. That shit was so hot. But it's extremely rare to replay anything for me.

>>8897032
Is this the game where one of the girls flirts with you while going for her daily swim
Sorry if that's vague

>>8897036
No, I'm not sure what that game that is. There's no swimming in Personal Assistant except a couple of hot springs scenes.

>>8897038
I remembered it, I was thinking of The Assistant. Always confuse those two
In that game, as far as I remember, the MC becomes the assistant for a family and seduces all the chicks separately

>>8896846
no
just check the charts yourself
with each update the dev time has only increased in the last 2 year's it has more than doubled
from 3 to 4 months to 9 to 12 months

>>8896926
wegdevs just know their audience
theres no market for quality
quantity rules the land
stay mad

y'all are just edgelords who edge all day

Goldream is a linear visual novel of "Wants of Summer".

>>8897141
where did she get the nose scars from?

>>8897147
eating pineapple

>>8897147
it's eczema

>>8897148
is she eating out the pineapple in this scenario?

Long hair won

>>8897198
literally the only thing that could have made my wife better

>>8896263
>And Big Brother removed Eric, turned to shit and crashed and burned.
This nigga literally does not remember the old days at all. Big Brother started to crash and burn because
1: The event system was dogshit, even for back then
2: The dev stopped updating as frequently*
3: Patreon started cracking down on Incest WEG’s which completely killed any momentum BB had

(*pretty much all devs started to update slower, all at the same time. I think collectively they realized they could get away with being so lazy. I remember it being a joke on here that devs would rush updates out at the end of the month so the patreon charges would hit as many people as possible. Remember when summertime saga updated monthly? Remember how 85% of Snow Daze was made in the first 4 months?)

>>8897266
I remember it well, because people immediately started lying about what had happened *at the time*. It turned to shit because the dev lost all enthusiasm for the project, he lost all enthusiasm because he was bullied into removing the antagonist and was left with a shapeless, directionless nothingburger he didn't know what to do with and wasn't particularly enthused about figuring it out.

>>8897141
burned the meatloaf. again.

>>8897266
>Remember how 85% of Snow Daze was made in the first 4 months?
remember when jewcat used to post in /aco/
phew, success is one hell of a drug

>>8897198
>Long hair won
As long as it's below at the neck or lower, we're gravy. Short haired girls are basically victims of bullying by other women trying to weed out the competition. Or old wives.

>>8897283
ngl i'm very partial to the odd pixie-cut gamine
it's like bangs, very few chicks can pull it off but the ones that can are ultrahot

>>8897266
I was playing some game the other day - University of Problems, I think - where a message popped up after the first chapter saying "Well, we've been doing this shit for FIVE FUCKING YEARS now, to the point that we've had to remake everything because it's dated. Chapter 1 was remade. Everything after this is shit. Sorry"

At the point you have to do this, I'm dropping your game. Fuck you. You've had 5 years. This is inexcusable. And no, separating them into different full chapter releases does not mean anything is actually complete. Finish your story. It's a game, not a sitcom. I'm not paying for that.

>>8897287
They need the positive, vibrant personality, too. It's just as important as having the face shape to match the hair.

>>8897293
Us weggers are already fapping to gobbos, I don't understand why devs remake shit just because the gobbos are slightly less hot than new ones

>>8897328
perfectionism and procrastination are two sides of the same coin
plus its harder to be imaginative the more you age

>>8897328
>>8897332
>>8897293
By the way, as the one person here not pretending to be a dev, how does this work? When you pose a scene, can you save the scene as a configuration? So you can reload it later and simply scale it up a bit without having to redo the whole thing? So actually remaking it with upgraded renders is trivial?

>>8897385
Yep

Never done a Sage playthrough. Never will.
Only care about me wife Sally. Simple as.

>>8897431
Magnar's sloppy seconds? Hah, couldn't be me.

decent progress today

>>8897511
Have you got a name yet?
Where render counter.

>>8897513
yeah, kinda
today I made 24 cgs, I've lost count of the total

>>8897519
>lost count of the total
ngmi

anons while sitting on an oceanside bench under my national flag on vacation an hour away i could have fucked or at least gotten the number of a secretly racist intelligent working-class petite blonde blue-eyed 20-year-old local surfer girl who was drinking a beer out of a pink-and-white bag instead of a brown bag for hair of the dog after a house party at 6 am who wanted a cigarette after driving across town just to check the waves 3 hours before her warehouse job
but i didnt even ask her name, even though she got mine
what is wrong with me
muh age gap
kill me

i am the gayest gay faggiest faggot to ever gaily fag out in this thread, i swear
dont ever forget that
sigmas suck
i suck

at least i got some inspiration for my pre-disclosure post-abduction Nordic-ayylmao romance story
not worth it

sneed

>>8897511
Game?

>>8897716
Read the reply chain potatokun

>>8896105
There is one being made by that guy who exclusively makes muscular Babyface MCs.

Controversial take, Morningstar > Love of Magic.

>>8897509
She's a virgin, Magnar can't get it up (source: me)

what are the best NTR games

>>8897901
Russian roulette, you should try it.

>>8896119
>The character of Conan is believed to enter the public domain in the United States on January 1, 2028, 95 years from first publication.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conan_the_Barbarian#Copyright_and_Trademark_Issues_Surrounding_Conan_the_Barbarian

>>8897941
>is believed to
????

>>8897942
wikipedia mang
it ain't gospel

>shitty cousin asks if he can spy on me having sex with a gobbo
I don't like that shit but I've been trained to click green text like a pavlovian reflex

>>8897945
>asks
haven't played in a few updates, so it's not based and chadpilled destroying his life, but him getting off to it? lame

>>8897953
It's both. He gets off when fuck the neighbor chick but he hates it when you fuck his mom.

>>8897966
>hates it when you fuck his mom
well alright alright alright

>>8897966
Is there a route to let him fuck his mom? Not that I'm gonna do it, all gobbos are for me only

Anybody got an idea how to fix this? I think it's caused by the WT mod.

>>8894796
what is this game, i've tried reverse google yandex and typing india in f95 search

>>8898005
The Lost Guardian apparently

>>8897999
Use URM, search for 'name' in the variables. 99% of the time you'll either get a hit on all their names, or a clue pointing to the persistent variable for it. Edit it there.

>>8898005
You won't find The Guardian / The Lost Guardian on ESL95.

The Guardian 1.0 / v.13 [Completed]
https://mega.nz/file/4JggHIxS#u6Zx26Z7wszOhX3cI9KczU8mHEeRTY-b-2U9-86eSAg

The Lost Guardian - Chapter 3
https://mega.nz/file/5RIUAbKB#toF8hr8a4Xf99k9ehIEIz8Ipl3D1kFVzCXvq2BOsBU4

>>8898090
Nice bitcoin miner, thanks

>>8898095
>official dev links
>that one faggot shows up crying about a virus

are dwarven women in demand in the wegsphere?

I'm thinking of including them in mine but my only reference is the one in a house in the rift, and she sucks.

>>8898120
Petit women are generally in demand, even beyond the cute and funny. What exactly do dorf women offer tho? Just like HotR they would all suck for the same reason.

>>8898125
they are shortstacks that can be either plump or brawny, common depictions of female dwarves in media have them as redheads with freckled bodies, big hands and a strong attitude

>>8898120
Because of that ugly fucker I am against any dwarves, I also fail to see the appeal because theyre just midgets. Midgets are weird deformed creatures.

You can go for it so long as youre ready to accept people might just want nothing to do with any and hopefully include the option to avoid the gremlins.

>>8898120
there's a small cohort that reliably goes absolutely apeshit for "shortstacks", not my thing but i fully don't get any kind of non-human stuff

>>8898128
>>8898132
I was thinking of having them as side content so that's good, I definitely want to at least try making some. See what happens.

Lol, our Whiteleaf is complaining against AI slop on Steam.

>>8898138
Is that the dude with the 2D mind control weg

>>8898138
if we actually allow AIslop to take over we deserve everything we get

>>8898143
Yup and he is one us.

>>8898120
Don't get the hate on her. She's really funny and unique. Not every character needs to be a bimbo. I'll take her over the schizo orc or the big bitch any day.

>>8898171
Her character might be fine but her design is garbage, just like the Pirate

>>8898171
Shes a cunt, she denies whats been proven right before her eyes repeatedly and shes ugly. Bimbofying her wouldnt make her better.

>>8898209
>Dwarf
>Stubborn
How could this happen

>>8898218
there's stubborn and there is being too retarded to believe what is outside the window

>>8898082
Cheers mate

Someone post the dwarf from HitR so I can judge whether she looks good

one of my biggest fears is supporting a game I like on patreon and the moment I join the patreon, the game gets leaked and the dev might think it was me
that's why I don't support games

>>8898387
Based schizo

>>8898387
simple, wait until just after it leaks to sub
excuse demolished

best wegs with petite women?

I'm on the verge of creating a weg as I'm sick of seeing some awful content recently that never updates and frankly looks lazy in terms of visual fidelity. 90% of these dudes are doing raw renders out of Daz. I have experience in 3D/photoshop and I'm about to take the plunge into making something with quality.

I'm an incest enjoyer and would base my story around that. I wanted to field some feedback from you guys.
>Setting: fantasy or reality? i.e. a family living medieval times vs a family in a house with some story based in present times
>Style: do you like linear vs sandbox? do you like having some form of minigame or playable section?
>Tags: preferences on certain kinks like pregnancy/loli etc
>Retarded Workarounds: do manual patches for step-sis/mom etc bother you?
>NTR: would it bother you if an optional route (which would essentially be a separate game within the weg) that has no impact on the main story existed?

Would appreciate the feedback brehs. Anything else that really ticks your fancy for what you enjoy in a game, please share. I'm making this shit for you and other degens like me who cannot stand the current wegh market.

>>8898423
>nigga doesn't even have a setting but thinks he's gonna make a weg

>>8898382

>>8898430
looks pretty good

>>8898423
>Setting: fantasy or reality?
reality but period would be aces, '70s/'80s anything to stand out
>linear vs sandbox
linear, zero minigames
>Tags
teen, impregnation, dubcon, cnc, anal, partially-clothed sex, sneaking around, on the phone, catholic school uniform
>Retarded Workarounds
couldn't care less as long as it's not cumbersome
>an optional route (which would essentially be a separate game within the weg) that has no impact on the main story existed?
can't really say without more info but not necessarily

>>8898423
You're ngmi if you don't have a story you're interested in telling, but sandbox is cancer and your game will get the NTR tag and only people interested in it will play it as a result.

>>8898435
You get off on cnc? What's your favorite machining tool?

>>8898432
I think every single girl other than Rae, Cait and Lyriel(post-cock-correction) are completely irrelevant

>>8898445
define irrelevant

>>8898437
>NTR tag and only people interested in it will play
this is only true of tagfags, who are an irritating minority
everybody else realises that tagfags wilfully pollute the tagging system making it of very limited use
i'm not into being cucked but i'm not avoiding a weg because it has the tag, for all i know some psychotic whinger got it added because one of the girls isn't a virgin or something, completely useless tag conveying zero usable information

>>8898423
Loli and pregnancy are a must, Sandbox only it its small or you can turn it off, workarounds don't bother me at all but never fucking ever include any ntr shit. Ever.

>>8898448
Fugly and annoying.

>>8898454
tag or not adding anything of the like reduces the overall quality and only appeals to absolute degenerates that belong on a cross.

>>8898460
do you have any idea how weird you sound when you talk like this
like you give every impression of being non-trivially mentally unwell

>>8898464
Not my fault you take shit on mongolian saddle making forum seriously.
My point stands that ntr is garbage and has a high risk of causing general aversion.

any wegs where you fuck one family member and she helps you get another one? not a weg where you're already fucking them and just pretending, or where a family member already fucks you before the story

>>8898470
Parental Love, for what it's worth.

>>8898471
I said not one where a family member already fucks you before the story
I also said not one where you're already fucking and just pretending
PL has both of those

>>8898448
Not relevant

>>8898473
Sorry my bad, Corrupted Love? The daughter kina gets you into fucking her mom and sis.
Moment of Bliss and Over the Moon also has that, assuming you start with Petal among Thorns.

>>8898476
just played CL the other day cause the thread talked about it, you specifically fuck all the little gobbos long before you pretend to deflower one of them together with the mom

>>8898423
Making a weg seems simple but it's a time sink

>>8898454
>this is only true of tagfags, who are an irritating minority

Proofs, or is this just projection on your part? ESL95's tag system might suck, but people who want to avoid NTR, which is a high enough proportion that a bunch of modern games have the devs putting in big bold letters right underneath the title on the post saying they're never going to implement it, are going to just filter out that tag on the search and not think more about it.

>>8898481
>Proofs
go into any esl thread and witness multiple people asking if the game has content for which it bears the tag

>>8898478
Yees, the MC really has his priorities straight.

>>8898423
>>NTR: would it bother you if an optional route (which would essentially be a separate game within the weg) that has no impact on the main story existed?
Yes, if you have NTR even optional I'm not touching it.

>>8898483
all I want is for you to fuck a sister and for her to go "hmmm this is pretty great what if we seduce mom too"

>>8898488
Fuck I know what you mean, girls being turned on by MC fucking other girls is dreadfully underutilized.

>>8898482
People who post in the threads instead of just using the browser are a much smaller majority, anon. Lurker vs poster is a well known ratio across almost every website that's ever posted data.

>>8898494
people doing that are just lurkers who've gotten into difficulty, anyone inclined to post will have seen multiple people ask if there's anal in a game with the anal tag and be told etc, so anyone actually posted at least knows of the tag system's existence

>>8894797
sauce?

>>8895191
>>8895241
games?

>>8898618
Hey bro, I've been fucking your wife, she's my wife now.

>>8898618
>>8898621
I've fucked his wife as well, but only up her ass. Strange lady. Nice ass, though.

>>8898618
How old is this chick in-universe? She looks like a MILF in gobbo years

>>8898618
>Drpinkcuck earning his name

I hate this 30 years old looking motherfucker Nick in BADIK. I'm sure he's the traitor, this bald faggot. I didn't play last patch, but i'm sure it's him. I'm also maybe the only one who cares.

>>8898601
1.) University of Problems.
2.) Buried Desires. This one took me a second to remember. It's a minor character in a parking garage under the school that has nothing to do with the story. I have no idea why she's even there. Or what her name is. She's just some slut living in the parking garage.

>>8898470
The Visit, you fuck the very aggressive aunt and she wants you to have a nice romantic seduction route wit hthe mom

>>8898625
I don't remember if it ever gets mentioned explicitly, if so I've forgotten, but she's something like 34-38 based on the date scene realizing she's about old enough to be your mother. She's at least 3 years younger in that pic though, it's a flashback of course, as her husband is wearing the old shorts Bella lets you borrow for yoga in ep 5.

>>8898479
yeah you're better off playing video games and jacking off

>>8898640
it's revealed who was behind it in the latest episode

>>8896119
he is in europe.
in the states, a handful of earlier stories are public domain but "Conan the Barbarian" the IP, as well as later stories co-copyrighted by Howard's editor, are still commercial.

>Revelations of Whispering Pines chapter 2 soon.
>The Lost Guardian chapter 4 in a few weeks
>Dire Desires and Personal Assistant long way off.

Jeez I can't wait for the next thread to be al MNWMeous or whatever the fuck is called.
>But it has bread!
Yeah okay shill

>>8898828
>Thinks he can predict me
think again fucko

when people say "gobbo" do they actually mean "3d loli"?
>>8898829
look at these young teen-looking-ass motherfuckers
Wolverine's torso is smaller than the picture frames

I can only play renpy wegs, not due to technical limitation, I don't like any other style of engine.

>>8898837
No is just the designated pedo fag

>>8898837
gobbo is just a catchall term for the characters in 3d wegs, not specificly any type, anyway those frames are clearly magical because normal ones actually have to be on the wall somehow

>>8898423
Why would you even include it as an optional route? I'm not going to definitively tell you to do anything but if you want to do it maybe you should post in the other thread, what is your logic for trying to appease both parties by making it "essentially a separate game"? Just make it two separate games then, cuckshit is retarded so unless you are just trying to get money then why include? And why post about it where the majority of people will not pay for it?
> I'm making this shit for you and other degens like me who cannot stand the current wegh market.
As cool as the sentiment is, I think you will not find many anons here who will congratulate you for creating a cuckgame.

>>8898423
Lmao NGMI

>>8898858
He wants money. Obviously

>>8898423
>im on the verge of making an incest weg without ai now give me some ideas
hmm

>>8898655
She confirms she's 36 in episode 11 so she's roughly double MCs age.

>>8898423
Gone over this a bunch already. See previous posts.
>>8824446
>>8824464

Do not do it. Either focus on vanilla or the cuckshit and never mention your crap here again. Every single second spent on the cuckshit is time wasted, you begin to normalize it and then your game goes to shit.

Setting: Doesnt matter to me, use what you can make
Style: SB is either a waste of MY time or pointless. Timestamps has sandbox shit that exists only to delay, it has a single instance I can remember where I can actually choose a different area to go to on the map. You have to go to both and AFAIK order didnt matter. So why even bother. Other SB has me go to 24 areas, 5 times a week only to get hit with "Sandra isnt here because fuck you now sleep a week"
Tag: Uoh breeding is the best combo. Twins/Triplets, Niece-cest, Lesbian correction, Redheads, handholding (seriously theres a lack of it), nursing handjobs
Patches: standard practice now

What are the best WEGs with female<male age gap relationships? No incest allowed.

>>8898907
everybody nuts harder when its incest, you are on your own there buddy.

>>8898858
>>8898903
I don't know if I'm thinking of NTR the same way others do but I like random one off moments. like the MC's mom has a flashback of sucking her dad's cock or something. I don't like NTR in the sense of some dude who is introduced and starts having sex with all the female characters.

>>8898872
>>8898425
don't worry, you'll play the game when you see it on ESL95 and your other favorite sites

>>8898946
Well that's kind of odd but significantly different, is the mom a love interest? I don't see what including it would do but like I said I am not trying to police anyone. I can definitely see valid complaints about it but it's whatever, it's certainly not the worst thing. I still don't see the appeal of including it but I suppose it depends on how the mom is handled with how "ignorable" it is.

>>8898940
incest is gay

>>8898837
gobbo is because for the longest time, most 3d renders were ugly ass fucking goblins that barely looked like humans. DAZ and Honey select have raised the bar enough that even the incompetent and lazy can at least produce things that aren't offensive to the eyes these days.

>>8898854
>>8898973
i think gobbo and gob and 3d are used together too recklessly
we need a codification of the terms

gob = of age
gobbo = under age
gob is like a catch-all
gobbo shared the last letter with loli

and gobololi just sounds like a war cry

>>8899071
I propose gobbi

>Gobi Desert
...
>Gobbi Desert
!!!

Dedicated MWNeus thread is now up
>>8899156
>>8899156
>>8899156

>>8899137
gobboloni
the lolicon name should be weird

do you see how this thread is now on page 11
and the new thread is only now getting close to bump limit?
thats why you dont make a new thread until you absolutely have to, rude OP

its a SLOW BOARD
this aint your fast-moving blue board shenanigans

>>8901177
This, new thread should only be made when the old one hits page 10.

>>8901180
>page 10
even thats too soon because these brain-addled OPs just jump at the chance to splooge at the second it goes from 9 to 10
its not a race against other threads, jfc

but you know what
thats the last i'll complain about it
nothing ever changes with "OP is a faggot"