is it rational to kill yourself if you are low value to society

>>33210995 (OP)
It is neither rational nor irrational. There are alternate paths in all likelihood.

>>33211027
can you elaborate on what yyou mean by "alternate paths"?

>>33210995 (OP)
Not really. Fuck society, live for yourself, you're a free man.

>>33210995 (OP)
No. Rationality is for maximizing your own gain, not being a cuckold to somebody elses ideas of productivity.

>>33211112
what if it's in someone's best interest to kill themselves

>>33211273
When is that ever the case

>>33211273
this would only be the case if you have painful terminal cancer or you've committed such an egregious crime that you know you're going to get the death penalty anyway.

>>33210995 (OP)
I'd say it is.

>>33211274
when you know that your life will be nothing but misery

and what if i'm unable to live? Like prisoner of my own head, agoraphobic etc?

>>33210995 (OP)
The only thing God gave you is your own experience it's highly likely that He wants you to maximize that experience.

>>33211433
what if i don't want that?

>>33210995 (OP)
Everything in existence is a creation of the universe. Who is to judge what has more value or less?
Who has that right?

>>33211367
Your brain is a worthy adversary. Do you have the will to take it on?
Here are some questions to start you off:

Who does your mind work for? What should be it's job? If it is not doing that job, what is it doing? Why is it doing it do you think?

>>33210995 (OP)
No, your value to society does not equate to your value as a person.

>>33210995 (OP)
Rational, yes. But, rationality is irrational in general. Rationality is a meme ideology invented to ration out the minimum survival necessities to as many people as possible, later adopted by intellectuals to divvy out any resource to any function for optimization.
Essentially, it's an immoral thought process to reach from a to b under specific circumstances.
But, if survival as a goal is met then... Rationality is usually appealing to a greater authority.

So yes, it is rational to kill yourself if you are of low value to society... if your goal is to be high value or die.
But, that goal is irrational.
Get a better, rational, goal. And, join a church, Catholicism preferably. Retard.

>>33217098
Not in these times.

>>33217098
This, Marxists ideas trample on the individual for the well being of the group. Thats why they can only see reality with their victimhood mentality. You have to belong to one of their opressed classes, usually lgbtq or diverse to have any value and anybody not in their victim totempole needs to be crushed. This is modern Western society. Do you really want to die so the scum of the earth can prosper?

>>33210995 (OP)
I can only say in general since I don't have specific info in your case. Suicide causes harm to society. Euthanasia is only advocated as a way to end one's own suffering, not the suffering of others. You might be in a situation where you can provide value to society, or other people if that's what you mean, in the future. Killing yourself would preclude that possibility.

>>33217889
I'm coming into this conversation without reading the previous posts but you're repeating a dudebro rightwing idea of what Marxism is. I'm sure you're like 99% of people including myself who haven't read and analyzed his most significant work: Capital. I'm gonna shelf the pseudointellectual talk about Marxism since neither of us have read any of it. Don't say you read the Communist Manifesto, Mr. Peterson.

For the benefit for OP and not anyone's trite political agenda be it left or rightwing, the individual doesn't exist without society and vice versa. We won't understand the world in a realistic, disapassionate way using tools like guilt, blame, and pride. The individual exists only within society, as humans are interdependent social creatures, and society only exists as long as there are humans to mentally project the idea of society. People who are depressed and considering shciide like OP are usually socially isolated and oftentimes feel emotionally defective or economically useless. That's a good place to start for OP's benefit rather than crying about trans people.

>>33217915
Op ignore this leftist trannie and live your life how you see fit. Fuck society, find a hobby, work on yourself, find God, make it your goal to build a family. Good luck.

>>33217964
Everything you just said is part of society, you dipshit ape, including your imaginary God. Your advice amounts to "try not being depressed," which tells me you're not playing dumb to fuck with me.

I know you people don't think about anything that you say but, to bring this back to OP instead of your moronic fuckshit, doing things one would do if they weren't so severely depressed could be something to try before taking a permanent solution like suicide. OP, what would you do if you were feeling a bit less hopeless?

>>33210995 (OP)
No. Start burdenmaxing instead. If you live under the ZOG, you should strive for your value to zogciety to be as negative as possible. Take everything, give nothing in return. And no breeding the next generation of goycattle!

>>33217971
Jesus dude get off the internet lol

>>33217098
What is your value as a person if not equal to (or correlated with) your value to society

>>33217098
This, inb4 seething bucket crabs arrive to give you a milion (You)'s

>>33217915
>>33217971
cope seethe and dilate

i would really like to talk to you about this. do you have session op? Or any other anonymous app?