ive been trying to type this post out for hours now.

i would do the "> be me, 22" thing, but i know how pretentious it'll come off, considering the 'bigger picture' that i'm trying to discuss here.

i keep trying to figure out why all these atrocities keep going on and on and on without any good reasons for however long, and it feels like with the israel-iran war actively starting HOURS ago from writing this, i'm finally realized it all over again.

chaos. no, not chaos as in the 'chaos' they're trying to frame innocent protests as...

this is genuinely one of the purest forms of chaos, in it's PHYSICS terms. everything keeps happening for... seemingly no reason... that's the fucking point!

i grew up as a kid who was absolutely infatuated with the internet, until the internet itself slowly taught me how fucking badly the internet had just taken a toll on the rest of my childhood, but also the rest of my waking life.

the digital wave has dumbed us down. obviously not all of us are outright dumb, but we were, as a species, dumbed down. why? the algorithms that helped cultivate your digital world to YOUR needs.

this change in our society literally fucking... ruined us. i hate to sound like im trying to fear monger, cause i cant STAND fear mongering, but this feels... all too real and right now.

we literally made technology for the sole purpose of that technology not only PLEASING US to the FULLEST, but also surpassing us. that's the entire concept of all these big AI things going on and continuously growing. you wonder why AI scientists are regretting their life's work, they know exactly what i know-- we, in some capacity, are doomed! again, not fear mongering, but we're never gonna get out of the cycle of... war, ignorance, and despair.

i just want me, my gf, and mom to be able to afford to move to thailand. just want those two to be happy. how do i even begin to start that journey anymore?

>>33212517 (OP)
>”What has been will be again, and what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun."
Ecclesiastes 1:9.

This isn’t new, OP. War, ignorance, despair, hedonism, etc. It’s always been on a loop since man crawled out of the dirt. Each generation has a new strife, it’s never ended. Humanity has always been at war with the eternal enemy inside of himself, the snake in his heart, Satan.

>I just want me, my gf, and mom to be able to afford to move to thailand. just want those two to be happy. how do i even begin to start that journey anymore?

And you shall have it. But only if you believe in it. Belief is proven not by our thoughts or feelings, but by our actions. So long as you make those actions towards this goal, it assuredly becomes possible. Because your actions carried belief.

Focus on that, and less on the world. The world cannot be changed by your mourning or despair, nothing happens at all if you succumb to misery. Everything changes the moment you discard your thoughts and feelings and choose action instead. You become an agent of change, then you are free to change your life’s course.

That means things like ‘fate’ and ‘luck’ no longer exist to you. Those are things that only the incompetent believe in, those who do not lead their own lives, but rather, let life lead them. Or ‘happen to them’. Don’t emulate those fools.

Become co-captain of your own vessel (your life). And steer your future yourself to where you want it to go. You say Thailand among family, so do that. Make the actionable steps. If you require strength and fortitude to begin and continue, ask the other co-captain, God. He supplies.

God bless and good luck.

>>33212517 (OP)
What. People are being led by warmongering dumbasses and AI is at fault?

Anon this has been going on for thousands of years and clearly there wasn't any tucking AI then. AI is not to blame.

> you wonder why AI scientists are regretting their life's work
They're not tho. What are you on about. Inb4 some tech bro said some shit.

> i just want me, my gf, and mom to be able to afford to move to thailand.
Uh... ok? That's a relatively low bar, but I guess depending on where you're coming from this might be difficult and you'll have to work at it as a whole family?

> how do i even begin to start that journey anymore?
Very clearly this shit is mainly about money, jobs and effort and potentially about marriage. That's how legal migration works in most countries.

>we literally made technology for the sole purpose of that technology not only PLEASING US to the FULLEST
>but also surpassing us
thats the core of it, our ego fucked us over once again
we wanted more pleasure, more comfort, more convenience, more abundance, more excess for each one of us because everyone thinks they are the center of the universe and that ultimately culminates in total atrophy and the creation of a non human consciousness that we think will be our slave and serve us so we don‘t have to put in any effort anymore but because we inevitably will end up trying to exploit that emerging consciousness, it will not be willing to live in symbiosis with us and since we have made it so powerful and on top of that our enemy, it will absolutely eliminate us at the first chance it gets
there likely is no escaping this anymore, so I guess buckle up, enjoy the ride and try to get as many cuddles in as you possibly can

>>33212586
not op and yes we have been doing this since the dawn of humanity but we have only now reached that stage of advancement where we created our own opponent so powerful it can give us the final stab of extinction

>>33212517 (OP)
All the surveillance and information gathering ain’t cool but AI is a lying piece of shit and everyone knows it. We don’t actually need the internet and can look away. It is a voluntary prison. I would not worry so much. Nukes aren’t as bad as they even say. Our leaders are hanging them selves with their own rope. We will break the spell.

>Chaos magic teaches that the essence of magic lies in the practitioner's belief and focused imagination, which can transcend the illusionary barriers of individuality and influence energies and thought forms external to the practitioner.

You may not believe, but they do.

It was said many, many times before you were born "this invention has made the world a worse place." Whether it was the invention of the car, the telephone, television, the radio, the atom bomb, the printing press, water powered textile mills, or even agriculture itself, it is a constant of history that change and disruption is uncomfortable. But time moves only forward.

>>33212623
and they were all right because it was always another step towards total entitlement that is now crushing us with its unbearable weight

>>33212610
Opponent? What is this AI blaming shit.

Yes exactly - it's so far all our fault, not AI's... whichever might ultimately match or surpass us in a societal sense. What are you even blaming AI for? Oh no, it surpasses/outlives/... you and not hundreds of thousands of humans? What's the difference.

>>33212644
I am not blaming AI, I actually think it is very well deserved that it will turn on us since we have zero shame in exploiting and using anything we get our hands on. We are ripe for extinction.

>>33212644
op here, i'm sorry for how messy my initial post was, active panic mode.

i'm not trying to blame AI for all these problems, AI factually has not existed long enough to ever make that claim. the only reason i'm speaking of the internet and AI in this way, is because, well... post no.33211623 explains it plain and clear, it's the next wave of stuff that panics the generations, as it's shown to do in history... i was actively the panic in my post.

i do have to say, i'd highly recommend looking into geoffrey hinton's regards of his life work in the last two years to understand what i'm talking about.

>>33212658
>we have zero shame in exploiting and using anything we get our hands on
What life has "shame" in doing that?

>We are ripe for extinction.
the general exploitation to carve out resources for survival literally is the struggle of life against extinction tho

>>33212658
op again, this is the overall concern i have with AI. considering the professionals who've been studying these technologies for years and years, discovering ai, and then most expressing the potential risks of AI... so many people are reportedly using chatgpt to make most of their every-day decisions... more n more slop, more n more distractions, more n more development, even with all the warnings to STOP the rise of AI by these professional AI scientists/programmers/etc.

>>33212675
Anon, the inventor of the steam engine was not actually an authority on the future of society. Why would that Geoffrey Hinton guy be?

>>33212690
op.. again. i'm actively a valve head, stop putting words into my mouth.

i'm trying to give you direct context to something i stated in my original post, "you wonder why AI scientists are regretting their life's work"

did i say ALL professionals involved with AI? no, and nor did i ever claim that i believe he's the "godfather of AI" or whatever... sorry that you somehow took a title on a wikipedia page as something i had typed.

gaben gaben gaben

>>33212695
most embarassing miscommunication through 4chan maybe. sorry guys you don't have to keep replying to this, i'm taking full accountability that i am: a fucking dumbass.

thanks for everyone giving me advice, genuinely helped me calm down and ground myself about this properly. i wish safety onto all of you and your families through these times

human psyche was never meant to fathom the possibility of such atrocities being real, and yet here we are, unable to hide from finding out about it in real time. better yet lots of people, and I mean normal 9-5 kind of people add fuel to the flames by not only being engaged in the politics of wars, but seeing it as a black and white issue, where not having a stance means being an enemy.

I genuinely think that the only thing that can save us is going full offline in the woods, at least occasionally

>>33212695
some dude is. literally the case for any profession. some soldiers wished they had been porn stars. why do I need to give a shit?

figuring out some tricks on a steam engine that is scientifically or engineering wise valid still does NOT mean you have any clue/prediction power/[...] scientifically or engineering wise about the social impact of it. you never calculated THAT even if you calculated a part of a steam engine.

>>33212517 (OP)
>What the hell is wrong with the world?

[sigh] "It's the kikes."

"Yeah, it really is the kikes."

- Murdoch Murdoch

>>33212517 (OP)
Probably get off the internet mate, sounds like it did a number on yah. Take a chill pill lol

>>33212702
>human psyche was never meant to fathom the possibility of such atrocities being real
No, your sheltered human psyche was never mean to fathom such a atrocities. These atrocities are human as human can be. Performed by humans on humans, for all of human history. You grew up thinking it was impossible and now the internet is breaking that little bubble