This is such an opposite world type thing, like fifteen to twenty years ago this would have been read as a thought experiment where gay and straight was reversed but is in pure fiction. Basically, i feel bad for ever being straight. Being a straight man to me is being in a demographic that is the most hated, the one women hate the most, and in general a demographic that is only looked at with disdain. There has been times where i claimed to be gay to a group and i could literally see multiple women feel a sigh of relief because they know i am not a threat to them. I dont have any plans to ask them out or anything, ive given up on that, but at least as a gay guy you cant be an incel which is the worst thing in the world to them. Your lack of success with women isnt noticed, because you arent attracted to them. You are seen as a human being, instead of a mentally ill, subhuman freak who everyone stays away from.

>>33217283 (OP)
Growing up i got a lot of shit for being into women, trying to ask them out, flirting, whatever and even got my ass beat multiple times because some dude wanted a girl i was talking to and got pissed. Or some woman didnt like me and decided to lie about something to get a guy to beat me up and its because i crossed the line between neutral party to person who liked her. If i could pick any orientation it would be asexual, i dont want either, but that isnt exactly an accepted group and is seen rightfully as copers so i would rather be gay. The world seems to love you more when you are. I get the vibe too women just hate men, and i would rather never deal with someone who hates me this much. Like the hate women feel for men to me looks like its staggering. You cant do a lot of the stuff ive seen them do to men without hating them. If i was gay, i wouldnt be as lonely, and i could be with someone i care about and not worry about it being 100% one sided like most straight relationships are. And the best part about any problem you have as a straight man is its entirely ignored and flat out discredited as "whining" so you really cant say shit about anything ever. Apparently your life is supposed to be awesome when in reality it fucking sucks and has zero benefits at all. Everything is against you and any plus that was onces had is gone.

You have to break a woman's heart and her liberal friends hearts as well, OP. You are having the same discovery I am today which is that to women we are fuck bois, but we got to keep our head up and work on ourselves despite that. The best advice I can give you as a fuck boi took me many years to find out. Keep things simple with her around, and give her your independence and consideration not let her emotions or behavior get to you.

>woe is me

>>33217322
Exactly what i mean.

>>33217314
In my experience being a "fuck boi" would be better than what i am considered, which is a subhuman sexual predator women wish were dead. If i didnt have to interact with women for the rest of my life i would fine. They are a source of constant misery and failure.

>>33217341
That too anon. There is a level of confidence you have to give off. Can't be too much or too little, but again the advice I am giving you will help you with your situation nonetheless. It isn't to get a result, but to be able to get through a negative result.

>>33217356
Yeah i just think the fact i am attracted to them is a problem. I dont want one in my life. I would rather not be attracted to them at all because i feel i have resoundingly got the message they all dont like me and wish i didnt exist. Its a long reason as why.

>>33217283 (OP)
Dude you have drank *way* too much kool-aid if youre acting like this and something is very not right here..

>>33217376
I think its because i live in an area where wayy too many young people are online and its just bleeding into everything. I also feel like i am not attractive enough to be straight so its better to go and wish for something that i wouldnt be lonely from and wouldnt be an abomination. I agree, something isnt right here, but i think its more because im supposed to be dead, and im not. But i am paying for that through struggle every day.

>>33217283 (OP)
>Being a straight man to me is being in a demographic that is the most hated, the one women hate the most

Women don't like gay men. They just aren't afraid of them. They might be afraid of you if you're a shitty boring man with nothing to offer

>>33217401
>They might be afraid of you if you're a shitty boring man with nothing to offer

This is most men because most men have nothing to offer women that a dozen other guys havent already offered them before. Anything you can do some other guy has done better in the past. Thats what ive learned, nothing is impressive, nothing is good enough. You basically have to just accept that.

>>33217370
Don't tell us you story of fucking up a chance with a liberal nerdy girl who was at the library. Just anon, it's okay. Alright? Women have to be this way to protect themselves. The fear you are given is there so that you give her your independence which is what I told you.

Let me tell you a story about a bird for you to get the idea of what is going on.

Imagine everyone getting a bird but you can never get one, you see them flapping their wings happily with their owner and being proud to be a pet, but it is impossible for you to get one and your friends keep harping on you to get the damn pet rock that is only available at the pet store. Now while feeling that imagine one day you see this magnificient eagle that is injured, you go right away to help it and it can fly again, but you decide to take away its freedom by putting it in a cage in your house that is small. That small cage is how women feel when you are what you are. There ain't nothing wrong with wanting a pet bird, but forcing it to be a part of your life with no free will is malicious.

>>33217283 (OP)
>>33217376
>>33217401
it's crazy how much men and hetrosexuality are hated. if you're a man over 25 you cannot date or sleep with 18-24 year olds without being labeled a predator or even a pedo. grown women in their early 20s. while women can sleep with underage boys no issue and are called "MILFS".

>>33217424
>if you're a man over 25 you cannot date or sleep with 18-24 year olds without being labeled a predator or even a pedo

Somehow I doubt you're 25. Probably more like 45

You're just mad you don't have the money to be a real playboy

>>33217424
Its hated because i think they have just generally hated us since the beginning of time. Theres a reason why every single place humans have ever settled put women at the bottom and if they didnt they fucking imploded. Women dont want a majority of men. They can only be made to have a majority of men because they have to and are desperate. Now, they have zero reason, they make more money than men in the US, they own more houses than men in the US, they have more resources than men do in the US. They can literally get a man in a matter of hours on a phone. They literally dont need men at all anymore and they are reacting accordingly, by treating us like shit and throwing us to the side.

I have no want to be with any sort of woman, i just dont want to be seen as a abomination and a failure.

>>33217431
I would say its a money thing if it wasnt for the fact even extremely rich celebrities deal with this shit. Look at Leonardo DiCaprio and even Drake to an extent. They both are very rich, but still get shit for going after girls who are beyond legal adults. Its what i mean by being a straight man today is frowned upon heavily, and its encouraged for you to just not be attracted to women at all. Failure to do so will make you get labeled as the worst thing a person can be.

>>33217451
Famous people get shit from both sides. You're taking it personally, like a loser would

>>33217460
Well yes i am a loser in this situation, its why i wish i could change teams to a team where i would have a higher chance of not being a loser and never having to deal with the "team" that forced me to be a loser by their metric