>Everyone talks about how much women suck
>Meanwhile, there's a voice inside my head that woman make themselves who they ought to be
>Feel disgusted that I think about this idealized view of women being better than themselves
Why is my brain talking like this?

>>33217841 (OP)
A large subset of angry men, pickmes, and misanthropes say women suck. Those aren't your regular well adjusted folk and in many cases they aren't even normies.

>>33217848
That's what I'm saying. It feels like I have the lean man gun to my head telling me otherwise.

I mean I don't care much for women. I'm too busy working on my own goals. And I can't force myself to hate something I'm going to wound up loving.

Lean man gun reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JqmzozLYOc

>>33217841 (OP)
Women are alright. Pros and cons. They're better than us men at some things, but suck at other things. We're better than them at some things and we're shit at other things. Women are queens of comfort and leisure, they're really really good at cultivating a home, it's in their blood whether they enjoy the stereotype or not. You give a woman an empty apartment or home and a thousands of $$$ and within a month then place looks like a lovely home, decorated and furnished with beautiful aesthetics and accessorized to feel cozy. I've only known women to have this ability naturally. They're also very nurturing too, and creative.

The things they suck at is understanding men. They don't seem to understand that we identify more with thoughts than feelings. So they say shit from a place of feelings then get surprised we took them seriously, cuz we always assume they speak what they think. Yknow when they do that woman moment shit. When they react emotionally and can't seem to problem solve or think through a problem, instead opting to feel through it lol.

I think if you look to a woman to nurture you, you won't like women. Cuz they hate nurturing men. They expect men to handle their own shit. And we should, and we can. But for men who struggle they can be pretty cold all the while expecting the man to nurture her.

You eventually stop caring about women's faults the moment you become a stronger man in your own right.

>>33217859
The video didn't make your reference any clearer to me but Ugandans are pretty funny.

When I was younger I was with some women who were pretty sleazy but I have been celibate for almost ten years now. A cute girl tried to get with me but I declined, and then a mentally disabled one did and I declined. There's one woman I enjoy talking to but she hasn't been with a man in her entire life and expresses disinterest when women make dating suggestions to her.

Relationships do invite some problems. If you're focusing on building your life and you feel your energy is finite it might make sense to conserve it.

>>33217872
You're doing too much genderizing and generalizing when it comes to relationships. Besides, you contradicted yourself when you said women are nurturing yet don't want to nurture men. Anyway, human beings are varied. Some people will prescribe to the childish notion that men don't have feelings, and some of tose people will punish you for displaying emotions, whereas others think emotional openness is admirable. You will encounter a variety of people in your life, especially if your mind is open.

>>33217886
I'm genderizing because we're talking about men & women, and there are innate differences between the two. Human beings are varied, yeah, but there are still core fundamental qualities that are not varied; such as the following difference:
>Men are more interested in things than people.
>Women are more interested in people than things.

This is a pattern you'll see play out no matter the man or woman.

>You contradicted yourself when you said women are nurturing yet don't want to nurture men
Nah, because the contradiction is what some men are angry at. Women are very nurturing - for children, dogs, puppies, cats, kittens. But not for men. You can ask any woman what she feels about the idea of having to 'mother' her own bf or husband. She hates it, all women do.

>>33217929
You don't figure out the core fundamental qualties of something by pontificating on it on 4chan. Besides, if you were really experienced and knowledge you'd know there's more than one kind of woman and one kind of man.

>>33217945
>You don't figure out the core fundamental qualties of something by pontificating on it on 4chan. Besides, if you were really experienced and knowledge you'd know there's more than one kind of woman and one kind of man.

I'm not figuring it out by pontificating, I'm merely sharing what I already know from experience. Yes there's more than one kind of man and woman but those are varying personality qualities that have less to do with gender, more to do with upbringing factors or whatever individual experiences the man and woman have had that shape the front of their identity. But it's just the front of the identity the personality. I am speaking on nature, not on ego. And women and men do not share the same nature, they are altogether consistently different from the other. You can see this very early on in childhood, how boys play rough and prefer games of battle or adventure, and how the girls talk a lot and prefer games involving social roles, like a tea party. How a boy wants an action man figure for Christmas and the girl wants a baby doll to nurture, or a barbie to accessorize.

>>33217978
The prehistoric daycare with Barbies and fake power tools? The fact there are biological differences between men and women doesn't mean you know what they all are and that there are no similarities. If someone were to follow your advice on women they'd be worse off. We already know we're going to encounter people that don't know how to handle weakness. This includes men too, though you're probably heterosexual and therefore not too afraid that a man will shun you for having needs.

>>33217985
>The fact there are biological differences between men and women doesn't mean you know what they all are and that there are no similarities.

I'm not saying that there's no similarities or overlap. But base tendencies and proclivities are observable yes. Women are more cooperative, men are more competitive on average. The biological differences aren't just genitalia or sex organs, the brain is biological too. And there are biological differences between a male brain and a female brain, which translates to what I'm talking about, how men have core innate natural inclinations and a woman has a different set too.

>We already know we're going to encounter people that don't know how to handle weakness. This includes men too.
How they handle it depends on attitude, but also depends on gender. Example: Someone who has issues (unrelated to gender) won't handle it well. Man or woman, they'll sabotage themselves over it or sabotage someone else who is weak. That's not gender at that point, that's dysfunction. Functional handling of weakness will show the gendered approach. A man problem solves; he will encourage or advise the weak person on how to solve the issue. A woman soothes and consoles; she will reassure and validate. Both are good. And yes they're famously gendered too.

How many times have you heard a woman bemoaning the fact her BF or husband doesn't listen or comfort, only problem solves everything she vents about? A lot. It's usually in the top 5 things women dislike about men lol.

>You're probably heterosexual and therefore not too afraid that a man will shun you for having needs.
What do you mean? What needs? Either way, no I don't care what other men think about my needs. Though I will care about what they think of my skills or capabilities, because they're my male peers. If they think I suck at doing something, I pay attention to see whether they know better or not.

>>33217841 (OP)
>Everyone talks about how much women suck
My problem is getting women to suck. How do you get a blowjob?

>>33217841 (OP)
The guys who go around bitching about women on the internet are losers. (Or at least temporarily frustrated.) like honestly go to some feminist corner of the internet and read their bitching. These people are fundamentally the same. There are not a lot of winners going around complaining about “all women this” or “all men that.”

>>33217841 (OP)
I won't read rumination threads. Go outside.