Tech Anons, is it worth going into CS in the modern age if you don’t live and breathe coding and computer science? Im trying to decide if I should go into engineering or computer science, but I know i’ll be competing with people who have a genuine passion that drives them to code on a daily basis, and the fact that there’s hundreds of thousands of indians for boomers to underpay

What has been your job experiences so far? Is the market looking good?

Is it even worth getting a CS degree?

the number of CS graduates has inflated dramatically within the last 10 years. its a very saturated market, and you might go there and end up as a web dev making 50k a year. which is shit pay for the amount of time and effort you put into the degree.

Have you not seen the news lately? CS grads are twice unemployed than other degree holders. It's done and over with. Everybody and there mothers wants a comfy WFH job making six figs.

>>33219702
>CS grads are twice unemployed than other degree holders
For a grand total of 6.1% (i.e., 93.9% have jobs)

>>33219721
McWage jobs or comfy work from home jobs making 100k?

>>33219721
Yeah shitty low paying CS jobs. Every CS grad I've seen getting into CS expects to make six figures when they graduate.

>>33219726
>>33219728
people failing to do their research doesn't make it a shitty degree. starting and lifetime wages are still higher than anything short of actual engineering degrees.

"wah wah wah it's not literally a perfect job" fantasy is irrelevant. getting to write code sitting on your ass in air conditioning is objectively a better way to earn your living than 99% of what people in this world have to do

>>33219424 (OP)
Its worth it if you want to speedrun wasting ~40k in tuition, wasting 4+ years of your life stressing over school (((exams))), and ensuring you either become homeless or work low wage shit jobs. Do literally anything else is my advice
>t. SWE grad of 1 year who works at Costco

How hard is the degree? Im a zoology major but ive had no problem learning python, calculus1-3 and diff eq

>>33219726
backpedalling from the statistic you brought up

>>33220069
Go watch a 15 minute youtube video on "data structures and algorithms", which is traditionally a sophomore weed-out class for CS/SE. If the logic and 'imagining how things are layed out in computer memory' doesn't scare you, you'll probably do fine in the degree.

OP, what other engineering have you considered? I am chem eng but had friends in all types of engineering degrees.

>>33220136
>>33220136
>OP, what other engineering have you considered?
Mechanical, mechatronics, aerospace. I have NO drive to become a chemical engineer. Organic Chemistry 2 was hell and I don’t desire to ever take another chemistry course

I know it sounds really really stupid but im one semester away from graduating and i’m only now realizing that a zoology degree is not going to be enough to support my dreams (living in SoCal, getting a house, going on whale watching tours).


I was told by everyone around me to follow my dreams but now I’m almost 25 and I feel like my time to pick a career is coming to a close. How can a 29 year old CS graduate compete with 22 year olds who’ve coded since they were 14?

>>33220250
Mechatronics and aerospace would be decent bets for socal, especially with defense contractors down there.
Unlike others in this thread, I don't think that CS is doom and gloom, more that the peak euphoria high is ending, quality CS will still be paid fine, and there will be tons of jobs.
If I were in your position, I would not sign up for another 2-3 years of school, especially math heavy engineering degrees, at age 25, unless you have a big safety cushion from a well-to-do family. Instead I would HEAVILY research some of those coding academies (if you think you have some propensity for it based on your experiences with Python), and find the one was that was the best bang for your buck, plus reputation for placing people well.
In the CSSE heirarchy, these "code monkeys" have a harder time climbing the corporate ladder, but if youre more of a vibe and whale watch kinda guy, that might be just fine for you.
If money ain't a problem, sure go get another degree, but before you decide on a major, figure out exactly what job you want to gun for, and tailor the major + electives for that.

OP just do something else, that guy spamming the fake stats is retarded thank me later boss

>>33220250
>was told by everyone around me to follow my dreams but now I’m almost 25 and I feel like my time to pick a career is coming to a close. How can a 29 year old CS graduate compete with 22 year olds who’ve coded since they were 14?
comparative advantage. the things people have done since 14 were all css, JavaScript, Python, maybe objective c ios app

instead spend your time doing x86 assembly for embedded. learn rust for replacing vulnerable legacy c codebase. there's plenty of stuff everyone hasn't been grinding

>>33220278
I>f I were in your position, I would not sign up for another 2-3 years of school, especially math heavy engineering degrees, at age 25, unless you have a big safety cushion from a well-to-do family
Thankfully i’m in that position. I have zero college debt and a substantial amount saved up, and I have 36 months of chapter 35 left to use. My family is extremely welcoming and open to house me if shit hits the fan

The problem is that I don’t exactly know what I want to do. I could never get into robotics classes in HS so my experience with robotics is zero, but I love math, CAD, and physics so I think engineering wouldn’t be that bad.

>>33220278
>if I were in your position, I would not sign up for another 2-3 years of school, especially math heavy engineering degrees, at age 25, unless you have a big safety cushion from a well-to-do family

Thankfully i’m in that position. I have zero college debt and a substantial amount saved up, and I have 36 months of chapter 35 left to use. My family is extremely welcoming and open to house me if shit hits the fan

The problem is that I don’t exactly know what I want to do. I could never get into robotics classes in HS so my experience with robotics is zero, but I love math, CAD, and physics so I think engineering wouldn’t be that bad.

>>33220306
Is it really that bad? Infinite indians and AI make the field seem overcrowded and doomed

>>33220355
>The problem is that I don’t exactly know what I want to do.
Go sit under a tree and think about what kind of work you think you would excel at, or at least tolerate.
>I love math, CAD, and physics
Are you competent at these as well, at least as competent as your peers? Again, there are obviously "10x" engineers that mog everyone, but there is plenty of room in the middle for "role players" that get the job done, don't make mistakes, and are happy mentoring new hires.

You're young and have a safety cushion, count your blessings, but you'll run out of "redo's" eventually, make this one count.